All, I'm not really sure where we stand on the family of Benjamin Lovelace b. 1727 and his wife Sarah ?Robey? Lovelace. Specifically, do we know that Ol' Ben moved to KY and died there? And do we know the whereabouts of his son Zadock? I got two PML messages from the Countryman list that mention our Maryland guys. They involve a Henry Gunterman of KY. There were two specific records: Henry Gunterman will, dated 23 November 1813, proven 3 July 1815 Bullitt County KY: daughter Elizabeth: plantation for lifetime; after her death to divided equally between daughters Mary, Barbara, Margaret, Anne; daughter Elizabeth: all other property; son George: 100 acres adjoining my plantation; executors sons Peter Gunterman and George Gunterman; witnesses Robert Samuels, ***Zadoc LOVELACE***, D. Grabet [Bullitt County KY Will Book -----] Henry Gunterman apparised estate of Benjamin Lovelace 17 February 1817 Nelson County KY [Nelson County KY Will Book C: 516] Is the above Benjamin the father, aged ~90 yrs, or the son, aged ~43? And Zadock, son of Benjamin b. 1827, would be ~53. Any ideas out there? Is anyone's interest piqued? These posts were made by a Scott Swanson <SSwanson@butler.edu> in reference to research he is doing on the Gunterman family. As Mike Myers used to say when he played the host of "Coffee Talk" on SNL, "Discuss!" Peace, Part of the Tree, Greg

Greg, don't know if this helps or not, I have the following: Marriage Bonds--"B", Nelson Co., KY Brown William W. & Lovelace, Matilda, Bond 11 Feb. 1814 Married 17 Feb.1814 Signed Bond: Zadock Lovelace Consent in person Zadock Lovelace, father of Matilda Married by Moses Pierson, From Ministers return At 10:08 PM 1/24/2011, you wrote: All, I'm not really sure where we stand on the family of Benjamin Lovelace b. 1727 and his wife Sarah ?Robey? Lovelace. Specifically, do we know that Ol' Ben moved to KY and died there? And do we know the whereabouts of his son Zadock? I got two PML messages from the Countryman list that mention our Maryland guys. They involve a Henry Gunterman of KY. There were two specific records: Henry Gunterman will, dated 23 November 1813, proven 3 July 1815 Bullitt County KY: daughter Elizabeth: plantation for lifetime; after her death to divided equally between daughters Mary, Barbara, Margaret, Anne; daughter Elizabeth: all other property; son George: 100 acres adjoining my plantation; executors sons Peter Gunterman and George Gunterman; witnesses Robert Samuels, ***Zadoc LOVELACE***, D. Grabet [Bullitt County KY Will Book -----] Henry Gunterman apparised estate of Benjamin Lovelace 17 February 1817 Nelson County KY [Nelson County KY Will Book C: 516] Is the above Benjamin the father, aged ~90 yrs, or the son, aged ~43? And Zadock, son of Benjamin b. 1827, would be ~53. Any ideas out there? Is anyone's interest piqued? These posts were made by a Scott Swanson <SSwanson@butler.edu> in reference to research he is doing on the Gunterman family. As Mike Myers used to say when he played the host of "Coffee Talk" on SNL, "Discuss!" Peace, Part of the Tree, Greg ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Greg, The best that I can determine, with no proof, is that Benjamin b: 1727 died in Montgomery County, Maryland, in 1784-1785. The Benjamin that died in Nelson County, Kentucky, was his son. Zadock and Reason went to Nelson County, Kentucky, about 1799. Their brother Benjamin followed after selling his property in Montgomery County, Maryland, in 1800. After his death, the younger children of Benjamin went to live with his brother Zadock. Greg Lovelace wrote: > All, > > I'm not really sure where we stand on the family of Benjamin Lovelace > b. 1727 and his wife Sarah ?Robey? Lovelace. Specifically, do we > know that Ol' Ben moved to KY and died there? And do we know the > whereabouts of his son Zadock? I got two PML messages from the > Countryman list that mention our Maryland guys. They involve a Henry > Gunterman of KY. There were two specific records: > > Henry Gunterman will, dated 23 November 1813, proven 3 July 1815 > Bullitt County KY: daughter Elizabeth: plantation for lifetime; after > her death to divided equally between daughters Mary, Barbara, > Margaret, Anne; daughter Elizabeth: all other property; son George: > 100 acres adjoining my plantation; executors sons Peter Gunterman and > George Gunterman; witnesses Robert Samuels, ***Zadoc LOVELACE***, D. > Grabet [Bullitt County KY Will Book -----] > > Henry Gunterman apparised estate of Benjamin Lovelace 17 February > 1817 Nelson County KY [Nelson County KY Will Book C: 516] > > Is the above Benjamin the father, aged ~90 yrs, or the son, aged ~43? > And Zadock, son of Benjamin b. 1827, would be ~53. > > Any ideas out there? Is anyone's interest piqued? > > These posts were made by a Scott Swanson <SSwanson@butler.edu> in > reference to research he is doing on the Gunterman family. > > As Mike Myers used to say when he played the host of "Coffee Talk" on > SNL, "Discuss!" > > Peace, > Part of the Tree, > Greg > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- Jack D. Lovelace

Just a thought. Today living to ninety is becoming more common but still remarkable. I read and I think(?) the life expectancy for those born between 1700 - 1800 was around 47 0r 53 years of age or thereabouts. What would be the chances that Ol' Ben lived to 90? Merilee Lovelace-Kleiber -----Original Message----- From: Jack D. Lovelace [mailto:lovelacejackd@verizon.net] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 4:39 PM To: lovelace@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LL] Lovelaces MD to KY; Ol' Benjamin's family? Greg, The best that I can determine, with no proof, is that Benjamin b: 1727 died in Montgomery County, Maryland, in 1784-1785. The Benjamin that died in Nelson County, Kentucky, was his son. Zadock and Reason went to Nelson County, Kentucky, about 1799. Their brother Benjamin followed after selling his property in Montgomery County, Maryland, in 1800. After his death, the younger children of Benjamin went to live with his brother Zadock. Greg Lovelace wrote: > All, > > I'm not really sure where we stand on the family of Benjamin Lovelace > b. 1727 and his wife Sarah ?Robey? Lovelace. Specifically, do we > know that Ol' Ben moved to KY and died there? And do we know the > whereabouts of his son Zadock? I got two PML messages from the > Countryman list that mention our Maryland guys. They involve a Henry > Gunterman of KY. There were two specific records: > > Henry Gunterman will, dated 23 November 1813, proven 3 July 1815 > Bullitt County KY: daughter Elizabeth: plantation for lifetime; after > her death to divided equally between daughters Mary, Barbara, > Margaret, Anne; daughter Elizabeth: all other property; son George: > 100 acres adjoining my plantation; executors sons Peter Gunterman and > George Gunterman; witnesses Robert Samuels, ***Zadoc LOVELACE***, D. > Grabet [Bullitt County KY Will Book -----] > > Henry Gunterman apparised estate of Benjamin Lovelace 17 February > 1817 Nelson County KY [Nelson County KY Will Book C: 516] > > Is the above Benjamin the father, aged ~90 yrs, or the son, aged ~43? > And Zadock, son of Benjamin b. 1827, would be ~53. > > Any ideas out there? Is anyone's interest piqued? > > These posts were made by a Scott Swanson <SSwanson@butler.edu> in > reference to research he is doing on the Gunterman family. > > As Mike Myers used to say when he played the host of "Coffee Talk" on > SNL, "Discuss!" > > Peace, > Part of the Tree, > Greg > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- Jack D. Lovelace

There's a chance. I had ancestors born during that time frame who lived to be over 100. On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Merilee Kleiber <mepiper@gotsky.com>wrote: > Just a thought. Today living to ninety is becoming more common but still > remarkable. I read and I think(?) the life expectancy for those born > between > 1700 - 1800 was around 47 0r 53 years of age or thereabouts. What would be > the chances that Ol' Ben lived to 90? > Merilee Lovelace-Kleiber > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jack D. Lovelace [mailto:lovelacejackd@verizon.net] > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 4:39 PM > To: lovelace@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LL] Lovelaces MD to KY; Ol' Benjamin's family? > > Greg, > > The best that I can determine, with no proof, is that Benjamin b: 1727 > died in Montgomery County, Maryland, in 1784-1785. The Benjamin that > died in Nelson County, Kentucky, was his son. > > Zadock and Reason went to Nelson County, Kentucky, about 1799. Their > brother Benjamin followed after selling his property in Montgomery > County, Maryland, in 1800. After his death, the younger children of > Benjamin went to live with his brother Zadock. > > Greg Lovelace wrote: > > All, > > > > I'm not really sure where we stand on the family of Benjamin Lovelace > > b. 1727 and his wife Sarah ?Robey? Lovelace. Specifically, do we > > know that Ol' Ben moved to KY and died there? And do we know the > > whereabouts of his son Zadock? I got two PML messages from the > > Countryman list that mention our Maryland guys. They involve a Henry > > Gunterman of KY. There were two specific records: > > > > Henry Gunterman will, dated 23 November 1813, proven 3 July 1815 > > Bullitt County KY: daughter Elizabeth: plantation for lifetime; after > > her death to divided equally between daughters Mary, Barbara, > > Margaret, Anne; daughter Elizabeth: all other property; son George: > > 100 acres adjoining my plantation; executors sons Peter Gunterman and > > George Gunterman; witnesses Robert Samuels, ***Zadoc LOVELACE***, D. > > Grabet [Bullitt County KY Will Book -----] > > > > Henry Gunterman apparised estate of Benjamin Lovelace 17 February > > 1817 Nelson County KY [Nelson County KY Will Book C: 516] > > > > Is the above Benjamin the father, aged ~90 yrs, or the son, aged ~43? > > And Zadock, son of Benjamin b. 1827, would be ~53. > > > > Any ideas out there? Is anyone's interest piqued? > > > > These posts were made by a Scott Swanson <SSwanson@butler.edu> in > > reference to research he is doing on the Gunterman family. > > > > As Mike Myers used to say when he played the host of "Coffee Talk" on > > SNL, "Discuss!" > > > > Peace, > > Part of the Tree, > > Greg > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > Jack D. Lovelace > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Greg, Grettings. One question, is there any Native American Indian blodd running through the lovelace name? Just wondering. ~ Thanks, Donna ________________________________ From: Greg Lovelace <greglovelace@comcast.net> To: lovelace@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, January 24, 2011 10:08:59 PM Subject: [LL] Lovelaces MD to KY; Ol' Benjamin's family? All, I'm not really sure where we stand on the family of Benjamin Lovelace b. 1727 and his wife Sarah ?Robey? Lovelace.  Specifically, do we know that Ol' Ben moved to KY and died there?  And do we know the whereabouts of his son Zadock?  I got two PML messages from the Countryman list that mention our Maryland guys.  They involve a Henry Gunterman of KY.  There were two specific records: Henry Gunterman will, dated 23 November 1813, proven 3 July 1815 Bullitt County KY: daughter Elizabeth: plantation for lifetime; after her death to divided equally between daughters Mary, Barbara, Margaret, Anne; daughter Elizabeth: all other property; son George: 100 acres adjoining my plantation; executors sons Peter Gunterman and George Gunterman; witnesses Robert Samuels, ***Zadoc LOVELACE***, D. Grabet [Bullitt County KY Will Book -----] Henry Gunterman apparised estate of Benjamin Lovelace 17 February 1817 Nelson County KY [Nelson County KY Will Book C: 516] Is the above Benjamin the father, aged ~90 yrs, or the son, aged ~43? And Zadock, son of Benjamin b. 1827, would be ~53. Any ideas out there?  Is anyone's interest piqued? These posts were made by a Scott Swanson <SSwanson@butler.edu> in reference to research he is doing on the Gunterman family. As Mike Myers used to say when he played the host of "Coffee Talk" on SNL, "Discuss!" Peace, Part of the Tree, Greg ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message