In a message dated 6/29/10 1:26:07 PM, greglovelace@comcast.net writes: > > > And hello to Richard <rclove@earthlink.net> > > I just heard from Richard off list. He's another one of our Old Barton guys from the line of GA Barton's son Abner. Welcome to the list Richard. If you have questions, fire away. Lou Ann

Afternoon Cuzzies, Hot diggity! Just what we most look forward to around here: Hurricane Alex is gonna pay us a teensie visit, starting this afternoon w/ a little rain and a little wind. It's supposedly going way south of us into Mexico, but sho gonna stir up those oiylie Gulf waters a bit. I don't know about you, but most of mah frens are pretty stirred up over the condition of the Gulf anyhoo. We'll get two, three days of rain outta ole Mr. Alex, and that's a fairly good lick for this time of year......as long as it's not dropping bad stuff on the foliage....which we will know sooner or later. Now, it's abt. these cats. I tell you.....pay attention to your pets' behavior. They have a lot to say abt. what they do. Mine have been sticking a lot closer than normal.....kinda interesting. And, Mr. Kat, who normally doesn't sleep on the bed, has been crawling up in the middle of the night and ootching ever so close as he settles down glued to my side for a nap. Now, what's w/ Mr. Kat? And, worse than that, he will plant a paw on my shoulder. Kat is a squirrel! o : Clouds are getting darker.....guess we're getting ready to catch it. Y'all have a good one! Buckette

Hi, folks And hello to Richard <rclove@earthlink.net> Welcome to the group, Richard. When you get comfortable with us, let us know who you're researching, and we'll do our best to help you connect. In the meantime, feel free to dig in our archives, and be sure to visit our website at <http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~lovelace>http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~lovelace Our online library of Lovelxxx documents, narratives, and pictures is an ongoing project to which we add as time allows. You can access it right now by clicking on the "Documents" button on the left margin of the main page. And our y-chromosome DNA study has proven very successful in unravelling the confusion surrounding several of the colonial American Lovelace and Loveless families. The results are posted both on the FamilyTreeDNA website (<http://www.familytreedna.com/public/lovelace/>http://www.familytreedna.com/public/lovelace/) and on our own DNA website (<http://dna.satmel.com/results.html>http://dna.satmel.com/results.html) Take a look! We now also have a companion website on MyFamily.com. If you're not familiar with that organization, to go <http://www.myfamily.com>http://www.myfamily.com and read to find out a little more about it. If you'd like to be invited to join that site, please email me at < <mailto:greglovelace@comcast.net>greglovelace@comcast.net>. Glad to have with us :-) Peace, Part of the Tree, Greg

Mornin' Cuzzies, Lovely summer morn around here.....as I overlook the very green woods here in my catbird seat on the second floor. Greener than I've ever seen it! Up in one of tallest trees is a trumpet vine which has wrapped itself around many limbs and has many cascading orange flowers hanging down and swinging in the breeze. Soooo pretty! A beautiful, quiet and peaceful spot in this nutty city. On Friday my Daddy was born 108 yrs. ago.....all 6 ft. 4 in. of his Yankee self. Got a Masters from Harvard in chemistry, went to South America and proclaimed himself an oiyle man working for what became a part of the Rockefeller empire. He packed a gun on his back as he worked in the jungles......"why, Daddy?" "So, the anaconda and jaguar wouldn't eat me." Ah guess so! Then he returned to Texas after abt. 10 yrs. and hung out his shingle as an independent. Within the next 10 or 15 yrs., Texas became the producer of 90% of the world's oil. I'm not promoting oiyle; just promoting Daddy who happened to do oiyle. And, here in Texas he ran into the finger-snapping, table dancing, beautiful and beguiling southin' blossom <Overstreet/Loveless cross> who tended to run us all a little bit nuts. The last month he was here, I was teasing him saying, "Daddy, you silly ole thing! After all these years, and all her impossible stuff around here, you are still in love with her!" And, he just blushed so red! Well, I'll catch ya later, Ole Boy, just like I promised! ( : Have a lovely, peaceful Sunday! Buckette

The photos are in my email stack. I can send them to those individuals who would like to see them, and would be happy to.....I think it's a really, really hot deal! My email is spice3@juno.com. Buckette ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- From: Lisabeth Davis <lisabeth60@gmail.com> To: lovelace@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LL] Thur Jun 24, 2010 Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:06:13 -0600 Can you point us to photos? On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:19 PM, spice3@juno.com <spice3@juno.com> wrote: > Afternoon Cuzzies, > > > Nice day here.....not terrifically hot, waiting on some thunder storms, > but they may never get here because they so have a > mind of their own. > > > Been working all morning on a possible housing project which may prove > out to be revolutionary! It's exciting! A genie fren > on another line who I've been chums with for years.....talked on the > phone many times.....lives in Oregon. She sent me photos > of the interior of her house which is perched above a lovely river and > the grass from her back patio cascades down to the river > bank. Just to die for! And, the interior of her house is gorgeous! > Her kitchen over looks the patio, and she has glass on three > sides. Crisp, clean architecture, sunken tub, sky lights, just the > whole nine yards. It was orginally a triple wide top of the line > mobile home which has been carefully attached to a concrete slab by > brick. Darndest thing I've ever seen in my life! It's > currently evaluated at $450,000 on today's market which as you know is > not that hot.....and it cost all put together less than > $200,000. I don't know why these aren't all over the country! And, > there's no way it looks like a manufactured home from the > outside. It is beyond classy! I am amazed ~ o : > > > And, our Dana <on the Overstreet List>, the Annoying, is holding his head > because he's a builder and a contractor. Oh, well..... > > > Mr. Kat made an unusual visit to the vet because he's currently *not* > eating us outta house and home, and he may have a small > prob w/ his thyroid. Shoot! Mr. Kat doesn't even know he has a > thyroid. > > > Hope your day is going well..... ( : > > > Buckette > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Lisa ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Yes, Mary is the daughter of Brewis Webster and Martha Walker Jones Lovelace. Brewis is the son of Zachariah Rhodam and Lucy (Webster) Lovelace. Still haven't found a document linking Lucy to William Webster. However, her brother was also named Brewis. I have found a Charles Lovelace in a Lancaster County, VA document. I'll get it posted when I get to that pile. Donna On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Greg Lovelace <greglovelace@comcast.net>wrote: > Donna Price, I think Mary is one of yours..... > > Peace, > Part of the Tree, > Greg > > >From: Sandi Gorin <sgorin@glasgow-ky.com> > >Source: KYBIOGRAPHIES@rootsweb.com > >Subject: [KYBIOS] BIO #11574 - H. J. DAWSON - UNKNOWN CO > > > > > >NOTE: I have no connection, no further > >information and am not seeking additional information > > > >11574 UNKNOWN CO ­ H. J. DAWSON ­ Dawson, Lovelace > > > >11574 Pike County Missouri History, Des Moines, > >Iowa, Mills and Company, 1883. > > > >H. J. DAWSON, farmer and stock-raiser, Hartford > >township, post-office Louisville. He was born in > >Kentucky, January 29, 1827. At about six years of > >age he moved with his parents to Lincoln county, > >Missouri, where they remained five years, when > >they moved to Pike county, where the subject of > >our sketch was reared and educated. After leaving > >school he became engaged in farming, and still > >follows the same pursuit, owning a fine farm of > >105 ½ acres of well improved land, being well > >fenced and watered. He has a handsome location > >for his residence, it commanding a fine view of > >the surrounding country. He makes a specialty of > >raising tobacco, averaging about 4,000 pounds a > >year. Mr. Dawson is a man of thorough business > >qualifications, and his reputation for fair and > >honorable dealing has won him many friends. He > >was married in Pike county, Missouri, August 10, > >1852, to ***Miss Mary LOVELACE***, a native of North > >Carolina and raised in Pike county, > >Missouri, and by this union they have nine > >children: Martha, William F., Jannet, Lewis J., > >Zachariah W., Rosa D., Anna B., Eva J. and May > >B. In the early days of his sojourn he had the > >pleasure of waking up of mornings to see from > >twenty-five to thirty deer, also plenty of > >wolves, elk, panthers, bears, and many other > >species of wild game, having to keep his sheep > >penned up of nights on account of bears and > >wolves. He also suffered many hardships, such as > >getting chased by panthers, etc. He has been a > >leading member of the Baptist Church for twenty > >years; his wife and two children are also members of the same church. > > > > > >KYBIOGRAPHIES Archives: > >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=kybiographies > >KYRESEARCH: > > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.tips/mb.ashx > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Can you point us to photos? On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:19 PM, spice3@juno.com <spice3@juno.com> wrote: > Afternoon Cuzzies, > > > Nice day here.....not terrifically hot, waiting on some thunder storms, > but they may never get here because they so have a > mind of their own. > > > Been working all morning on a possible housing project which may prove > out to be revolutionary! It's exciting! A genie fren > on another line who I've been chums with for years.....talked on the > phone many times.....lives in Oregon. She sent me photos > of the interior of her house which is perched above a lovely river and > the grass from her back patio cascades down to the river > bank. Just to die for! And, the interior of her house is gorgeous! > Her kitchen over looks the patio, and she has glass on three > sides. Crisp, clean architecture, sunken tub, sky lights, just the > whole nine yards. It was orginally a triple wide top of the line > mobile home which has been carefully attached to a concrete slab by > brick. Darndest thing I've ever seen in my life! It's > currently evaluated at $450,000 on today's market which as you know is > not that hot.....and it cost all put together less than > $200,000. I don't know why these aren't all over the country! And, > there's no way it looks like a manufactured home from the > outside. It is beyond classy! I am amazed ~ o : > > > And, our Dana <on the Overstreet List>, the Annoying, is holding his head > because he's a builder and a contractor. Oh, well..... > > > Mr. Kat made an unusual visit to the vet because he's currently *not* > eating us outta house and home, and he may have a small > prob w/ his thyroid. Shoot! Mr. Kat doesn't even know he has a > thyroid. > > > Hope your day is going well..... ( : > > > Buckette > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Lisa

Donna Price, I think Mary is one of yours..... Peace, Part of the Tree, Greg >From: Sandi Gorin <sgorin@glasgow-ky.com> >Source: KYBIOGRAPHIES@rootsweb.com >Subject: [KYBIOS] BIO #11574 - H. J. DAWSON - UNKNOWN CO > > >NOTE: I have no connection, no further >information and am not seeking additional information > >11574 UNKNOWN CO ­ H. J. DAWSON ­ Dawson, Lovelace > >11574 Pike County Missouri History, Des Moines, >Iowa, Mills and Company, 1883. > >H. J. DAWSON, farmer and stock-raiser, Hartford >township, post-office Louisville. He was born in >Kentucky, January 29, 1827. At about six years of >age he moved with his parents to Lincoln county, >Missouri, where they remained five years, when >they moved to Pike county, where the subject of >our sketch was reared and educated. After leaving >school he became engaged in farming, and still >follows the same pursuit, owning a fine farm of >105 ½ acres of well improved land, being well >fenced and watered. He has a handsome location >for his residence, it commanding a fine view of >the surrounding country. He makes a specialty of >raising tobacco, averaging about 4,000 pounds a >year. Mr. Dawson is a man of thorough business >qualifications, and his reputation for fair and >honorable dealing has won him many friends. He >was married in Pike county, Missouri, August 10, >1852, to ***Miss Mary LOVELACE***, a native of North >Carolina and raised in Pike county, >Missouri, and by this union they have nine >children: Martha, William F., Jannet, Lewis J., >Zachariah W., Rosa D., Anna B., Eva J. and May >B. In the early days of his sojourn he had the >pleasure of waking up of mornings to see from >twenty-five to thirty deer, also plenty of >wolves, elk, panthers, bears, and many other >species of wild game, having to keep his sheep >penned up of nights on account of bears and >wolves. He also suffered many hardships, such as >getting chased by panthers, etc. He has been a >leading member of the Baptist Church for twenty >years; his wife and two children are also members of the same church. > > >KYBIOGRAPHIES Archives: >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=kybiographies >KYRESEARCH: >http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.tips/mb.ashx >

Thanks for the information, Jimmie.   Terry --- On Wed, 6/23/10, Jimmie Ryan <Jimmie.Ryan@verizon.net> wrote: From: Jimmie Ryan <Jimmie.Ryan@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [LL] William Physician Brewer To: lovelace@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 7:41 PM Hey Cuz David, I have a different Brewer name... not sure if my database is different than yours, yet I have your Davis' line.  Cuz Jimmie Register Report for Russell Brewer     Generation 1 1.    Russell Brewer-1[1, 2] was born on 28 Jan 1785 in Rowan, NC, USA[1, 2]. He died before 06 Aug 1858     in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA[1].     Notes for Russell Brewer:     General Notes:     THOMAS C. BREWER (tcbrewer@worldnet.att.net)     *****Thank you for welcoming me to the Taliaferro/Toliver Newsletter. I know very little about this     line of my family.     I am descended from Russell Brewer who was born Jan. 28, 1785 in North Carolina, possibly Rowan     County. He died Sept. 1, 1858 in Warren County, Tennessee. Russell married Nancy B. Toliver about     1805. She was born Feb. 9,1785 in Wilkes County, North Carolina and died Feb. 27, 1869 probably in     Coffee County, Tennessee. They are both buried in the Jacksboro/ Trousdale Cemetery at Jacksboro,     (Warren) Tennessee. Russell (have seen him sign with one l) and Nancy were some of the earliest     settlers of Warren County, Tn.  about 1810. Russell was on the 1812 Tax List in Warren County, Tn.     and was a corporal in the 1812 from Warren County. They had 13 children: William J., Henry,     Catherine, Jane, David, Sarah Martha, John (my 2nd great-grandfather), Elizabeth, Andrew Jackson,     Charlotte, Calvin C., Thomas Jefferson, and Russell B. I have Nancy B. (Toliver) Brewer parents as John Taliaferro and Tabitha Howell. ======== Nancy B Toliver daughter of John Toliver and Tabitha Howell[1, 3] was born on 09 Feb 1785 in Wilkes, Colonial North Carolina[1, 3]. She died on 27 Feb 1869 in Coffee, TN, USA[1, 3]. Russell Brewer and Nancy B Toliver were married about 1805. They had the following children:     i.    William J Brewer was born in 1806 in NC, USA. He died about 1837 in Warren, Fayette,         TN, USA.     ii.    Catherine Brewer was born in 1806. She died after 1860.     iii.    Henry Brewer was born on 16 May 1807. He died on 25 Aug 1877 in Warren, Fayette,         TN, USA.     iv.    Jane Brewer was born about 1810 in TN, USA. She died after 1872 in Cannon Co., TN         (Prob).     v.    David Brewer was born on 06 Jan 1811 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA. He died on 18 May         1893 in Winston Co., Ms. 2.    vi.    Sarah Martha Brewer[1, 4] was born on 26 Dec 1812 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA[1, 4]. She         married Anger Price McFarland on 05 Feb 1832 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA[1, 4]. She died         on 20 Mar 1891 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA[1, 4].     vii.    John Brewer was born on 13 Jun 1814. He died on 06 Jun 1894.     viii.    Elizabeth Brewer was born in 1817. She died before Jul 1872 in Fayetteville, Washington         Co., Ar.     ix.    Andrew Jackson Brewer was born about 1823 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA. Charlotte Brewer was born on 24 Oct 1824 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA. She died between 1861-1872 in Monroe Co., Tn. Calvin C. Brewer was born in 1827 in McMinnville, Warren Co. Tn. He died on 17 Oct 1866 in McMinnville, Warren Co. Tn. Thomas Jefferson Brewer was born about 1830 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA. He died about 1860 in Coffee, TN, USA. Russell B. Brewer Jr. was born about 1832. He died before 1857. Generation 2 2. Sarah Martha Brewer-2 (Russell-1)[1, 4] was born on 26 Dec 1812 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA[1, 4]. She died on 20 Mar 1891 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA[1, 4]. Notes for Sarah Martha Brewer: General Notes: LDS database says 20 Mar 1891 DOD Anger Price McFarland son of William M McFarland and Christian Jane Price[1, 4, 5] was born on 24 Aug 1813 in Russell, VA, USA[1, 4, 5]. He died on 18 Mar 1879 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA[1, 4, 5]. Anger Price McFarland and Sarah Martha Brewer were married on 05 Feb 1832 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA[1, 4]. They had the following children: Nancy Catherine McFarland[1] was born on 07 Oct 1832 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA[1]. She died on 06 Feb 1917 in Cannon, TN, USA[1]. Notes for Nancy Catherine McFarland: General Notes: DOB 10 Oct 1832 accg. Mary Kight. Christian Priscilla McFarland[1] was born in 1836 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA[1]. She died in 1905 in Warren, TN, USA[1]. Elizabeth Caroline McFarland[1] was born in 1838 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA[1]. William Vann McFarland[1] was born in 1841 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA[1]. Martha Ann McFarland[1] was born on 03 Sep 1843 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA[1]. She died on 25 Jan 1909 in Coffee, TN, USA. vi. America Josephine McFarland[1, 6, 7] was born on 20 Jan 1845 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA[7]. She married William Green C Davis on 25 Jan 1869 in Coffee, TN, USA[6, 7]. She died on 08 Feb 1934 in Scottsboro, Jackson, AL, USA. Russell Jackson McFarland[1] was born on 31 Dec 1847 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA[1]. He died on 02 Jul 1935 in Garth, Jackson, AL, USA. Notes for Russell Jackson McFarland: General Notes: Spelling according to Mary Kight. Salina Paralee McFarland[1] was born in 1849 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA[1]. Rosanna Charlotte McFarland[1] was born on 28 Jan 1853 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA[1]. She died on 24 Jul 1909 in Woodbury, Coffee, TN, USA[1]. Henry Robert McFarland[1] was born on 16 Feb 1855 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA[1]. Sarah Angeline McFarland[1] was born on 24 Mar 1858 in Coffee, TN, USA[1]. She died on 08 May 1930 in Coffee, TN, USA[1]. Notes for Sarah Angeline McFarland: General Notes:  from FTM website Could that be typo for Sarah Adaline? Generation 3 3. America Josephine McFarland-3 (Sarah Martha-2, Russell-1)[1, 6, 7] was born on 20 Jan 1845 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA[7]. She died on 08 Feb 1934 in Scottsboro, Jackson, AL, USA. Notes for America Josephine McFarland: General Notes: Last name also spelled McFarlane in some records. (LDS e.g.) William Green C Davis son of Jonathan G Davis and Elizabeth Gilley[6] was born on 27 Nov 1847 in Coffee, TN, USA[6, 7, 8]. He died on 04 Aug 1902 in Scottsboro, Jackson, AL, USA[7, 8]. Notes for William Green C Davis: General Notes: Alabama marriage records for James S. and Sarah E. Davis: Bride's father's name: W.G. Davis William? Marriage took place at home of Wm. Davis on Cumberland Mountain. William Green C Davis and America Josephine McFarland were married on 25 Jan 1869 in Coffee, TN, USA[6, 7]. They had the following children: Sarah Elizabeth Davis[9] was born on 09 May 1870 in Near Woodbury, Cannon, TN, USA[9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14]. She married James Seaborn Lovless on 30 Oct 1884 in Larkinsville, AL, USA. She died on 02 Jan 1949 in Lonsdale, TN, USA. Joseph Vann Davis was born on 28 Jan 1874 in Near Woodbury, Cannon, TN, USA. He married Martha Shelton on 01 Feb 1894 in Larkinsville, Alabama. Mary Jane Davis[6] was born on 26 Sep 1878 in Scottsboro, Jackson, AL, USA[6]. She married Hiram Alexander Bennett in 1900. She died on 11 Jul 1966 in Franklin, TN, USA. Notes for Mary Jane Davis: General Notes: Bertha's letter: "Aunt Janie Davis" Rosa A Davis was born on 15 Jul 1881 in Scottsboro, Jackson, AL, USA. She married Matthew F. Shelton on 05 Oct 1899 in Franklin, TN, USA. She died on 04 Feb 1954 in Tullahoma, TN, USA. Notes for Rosa A Davis: General Notes: Names of children from Jeanne Wilson's notes from 1981 trip and visits to Loveless relatives. Sources 1. Ancestry.com, OneWorldTree (Provo, UT, USA, The Generations Network, Inc.), www.ancestry.com, Database online. Record for Sarah Martha Brewer. 2. Ancestry.com, 1850 United States Federal Census (Provo, UT, USA, The Generations Network, Inc., 2005), www.ancestry.com, Database online. Year: 1850; Census Place: District 13, Warren, Tennessee; Roll: M432_898; Page: 82A; Image:. Record for Russell Brewer. 3. Ancestry.com, OneWorldTree (Provo, UT, USA, The Generations Network, Inc.), www.ancestry.com, Database online. Record for John Toliver. 4. Ancestry.com, OneWorldTree (Provo, UT, USA, The Generations Network, Inc.), www.ancestry.com, Database online. Record for Anger Price McFarland. 5. Ancestry.com, OneWorldTree (Provo, UT, USA, The Generations Network, Inc.), www.ancestry.com, Database online. Record for William M Mcfarland. 6. Ancestry.com, 1900 United States Federal Census (Provo, UT, USA, The Generations Network, Inc., 2004), www.ancestry.com, Database online. Civil District 8, Franklin, Tennessee, ED , roll , page. Record for William G Davis. 7. Ancestry.com, OneWorldTree (Provo, UT, USA, The Generations Network, Inc.), www.ancestry.com, Database online. Record for William Greene Davis. 8. Ancestry.com, OneWorldTree (Provo, UT, USA, The Generations Network, Inc.), www.ancestry.com, Database online. Record for Jonathan G Davis. 9. Ancestry.com, Public Member Trees (Provo, UT, USA, The Generations Network, Inc., 2006), www.ancestry.com, Database online. Record for Annie G Loveless. 10. Ancestry.com, 1910 United States Federal Census (Provo, UT, USA, The Generations Network, Inc., 2006), www.ancestry.com, Database online. Lonsdale, Knox, Tennessee, ED , roll T624_1508, part , page. Record for Robert M Loveless. 11. Ancestry.com, 1900 United States Federal Census (Provo, UT, USA, The Generations Network, Inc., 2004), www.ancestry.com, Database online. Knoxville Ward 10, Knox, Tennessee, ED , roll , page. Record for Sallie J Loveless. 12. Ancestry.com, 1900 United States Federal Census (Provo, UT, USA, The Generations Network, Inc., 2004), www.ancestry.com, Database online. Knoxville Ward 10, Knox, Tennessee, ED , roll , page. Record for Bessie P Loveless. 13. Ancestry.com, 1900 United States Federal Census (Provo, UT, USA, The Generations Network, Inc., 2004), www.ancestry.com, Database online. Knoxville Ward 10, Knox, Tennessee, ED , roll , page. Record for Bertha M Loveless. 14. Ancestry.com, 1910 United States Federal Census (Provo, UT, USA, The Generations Network, Inc., 2006), www.ancestry.com, Database online. Year: 1910; Census Place: Lonsdale, Knox, Tennessee; Roll: T624_1508; Page: 24A; Enumeration District: 121; Image: 1203. Record for Annie G Loveless. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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I am not related to this individual, so someone else will need to figure out from which line he descends. - Bonnie Owasso Reporter Owasso, OK Brent Howard Loveless Published: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 3:35 PM CDT Brent Howard Loveless, of Tulsa, passed away Monday, June 21, 2010 at the age of 42. Brent was born Nov. 27, 1967 at Bartlesville to Denny and Marilee (Cly) Loveless. He graduated from Oologah High School with the class of 1986. Following high school, Brent attended Northeastern State University for additional schooling. At the time of his death, he was senior project manager with Tulsa Heaters Inc. Brent enjoyed hunting, cooking, gardening, country music and was a world traveler for both business and pleasure. He was a member of the NRA and the ASME. Those who survive and hold many cherished memories are his father, Denny Loveless and wife Janice, of Owasso; mother Marilee Cly of Tulsa; children Tristan and Kaitlyn Loveless, both of Skiatook; siblings Deborah Vanderpool and husband Rusty, of Oologa; Melody Loveless of Oologah; Michael Loveless of Oologah; Kim Dyer and husband David, of Owasso; Michelle Talbot and husband Pat, of Owasso; special love Lisa Cole of Tulsa; and numerous nieces, nephews other relatives and friends. Brent was preceded in death by his grandparents, Leota and D.K. Loveless and Adalene and Henry Barton. Funeral services will be held at 10 a.m. Thursday, June 24, 2010 at the Rejoice Free Will Baptist Church (north campus), with Brother Jim Stratton officiating. Burial will follow at the Ridgelawn Cemetery, Collinsville. Visitation will be from 1 to 8 p.m. Wednesday, June 23, 2010 at the funeral home. Arrangements and services have been entrusted to Mowery Funeral Service of Owasso. _www.moweryfs.com_ (http://www.moweryfs.com/) Photo with obituary: <http://owassoreporter.com/articles/2010/06/24/obituaries/doc4c20f2952b19c86 9553806.txt>

Afternoon Cuzzies, Nice day here.....not terrifically hot, waiting on some thunder storms, but they may never get here because they so have a mind of their own. Been working all morning on a possible housing project which may prove out to be revolutionary! It's exciting! A genie fren on another line who I've been chums with for years.....talked on the phone many times.....lives in Oregon. She sent me photos of the interior of her house which is perched above a lovely river and the grass from her back patio cascades down to the river bank. Just to die for! And, the interior of her house is gorgeous! Her kitchen over looks the patio, and she has glass on three sides. Crisp, clean architecture, sunken tub, sky lights, just the whole nine yards. It was orginally a triple wide top of the line mobile home which has been carefully attached to a concrete slab by brick. Darndest thing I've ever seen in my life! It's currently evaluated at $450,000 on today's market which as you know is not that hot.....and it cost all put together less than $200,000. I don't know why these aren't all over the country! And, there's no way it looks like a manufactured home from the outside. It is beyond classy! I am amazed ~ o : And, our Dana <on the Overstreet List>, the Annoying, is holding his head because he's a builder and a contractor. Oh, well..... Mr. Kat made an unusual visit to the vet because he's currently *not* eating us outta house and home, and he may have a small prob w/ his thyroid. Shoot! Mr. Kat doesn't even know he has a thyroid. Hope your day is going well..... ( : Buckette

The continuing travels of Daisy Lovelace.... Check the archives earlier this year for the story of her camping trip.... Peace, Greg From: Dee Sardoc <deesar@frontiernet.net> >Source: NORCAL@rootsweb.com >Subject: [NORCAL] Hanford, Kings Co., CA - 22 September 1896 > > >Hanford Journal >Hanford, Kings Co., California >Tuesday, 22 SEPTEMBER 1896 >************************************** > >LOCAL PARAGRAPHS -- <<snip>> >-Mr.&Mrs. Porter MICKLE, Daisy LOVELACE and Mrs. DONAGER and her >son, Ben, arrived home today from Mineral King. <<snip>> >Transcribed by Dee Sardoch >To see more old newspapers, visit http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/

Hey Cuz David, I have a different Brewer name... not sure if my database is different than yours, yet I have your Davis' line. Cuz Jimmie Register Report for Russell Brewer Generation 1 1. Russell Brewer-1[1, 2] was born on 28 Jan 1785 in Rowan, NC, USA[1, 2]. He died before 06 Aug 1858 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA[1]. Notes for Russell Brewer: General Notes: THOMAS C. BREWER (tcbrewer@worldnet.att.net) *****Thank you for welcoming me to the Taliaferro/Toliver Newsletter. I know very little about this line of my family. I am descended from Russell Brewer who was born Jan. 28, 1785 in North Carolina, possibly Rowan County. He died Sept. 1, 1858 in Warren County, Tennessee. Russell married Nancy B. Toliver about 1805. She was born Feb. 9,1785 in Wilkes County, North Carolina and died Feb. 27, 1869 probably in Coffee County, Tennessee. They are both buried in the Jacksboro/ Trousdale Cemetery at Jacksboro, (Warren) Tennessee. Russell (have seen him sign with one l) and Nancy were some of the earliest settlers of Warren County, Tn. about 1810. Russell was on the 1812 Tax List in Warren County, Tn. and was a corporal in the 1812 from Warren County. They had 13 children: William J., Henry, Catherine, Jane, David, Sarah Martha, John (my 2nd great-grandfather), Elizabeth, Andrew Jackson, Charlotte, Calvin C., Thomas Jefferson, and Russell B. I have Nancy B. (Toliver) Brewer parents as John Taliaferro and Tabitha Howell. ======== Nancy B Toliver daughter of John Toliver and Tabitha Howell[1, 3] was born on 09 Feb 1785 in Wilkes, Colonial North Carolina[1, 3]. She died on 27 Feb 1869 in Coffee, TN, USA[1, 3]. Russell Brewer and Nancy B Toliver were married about 1805. They had the following children: i. William J Brewer was born in 1806 in NC, USA. He died about 1837 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA. ii. Catherine Brewer was born in 1806. She died after 1860. iii. Henry Brewer was born on 16 May 1807. He died on 25 Aug 1877 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA. iv. Jane Brewer was born about 1810 in TN, USA. She died after 1872 in Cannon Co., TN (Prob). v. David Brewer was born on 06 Jan 1811 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA. He died on 18 May 1893 in Winston Co., Ms. 2. vi. Sarah Martha Brewer[1, 4] was born on 26 Dec 1812 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA[1, 4]. She married Anger Price McFarland on 05 Feb 1832 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA[1, 4]. She died on 20 Mar 1891 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA[1, 4]. vii. John Brewer was born on 13 Jun 1814. He died on 06 Jun 1894. viii. Elizabeth Brewer was born in 1817. She died before Jul 1872 in Fayetteville, Washington Co., Ar. ix. Andrew Jackson Brewer was born about 1823 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA. Charlotte Brewer was born on 24 Oct 1824 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA. She died between 1861-1872 in Monroe Co., Tn. Calvin C. Brewer was born in 1827 in McMinnville, Warren Co. Tn. He died on 17 Oct 1866 in McMinnville, Warren Co. Tn. Thomas Jefferson Brewer was born about 1830 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA. He died about 1860 in Coffee, TN, USA. Russell B. Brewer Jr. was born about 1832. He died before 1857. Generation 2 2. Sarah Martha Brewer-2 (Russell-1)[1, 4] was born on 26 Dec 1812 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA[1, 4]. She died on 20 Mar 1891 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA[1, 4]. Notes for Sarah Martha Brewer: General Notes: LDS database says 20 Mar 1891 DOD Anger Price McFarland son of William M McFarland and Christian Jane Price[1, 4, 5] was born on 24 Aug 1813 in Russell, VA, USA[1, 4, 5]. He died on 18 Mar 1879 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA[1, 4, 5]. Anger Price McFarland and Sarah Martha Brewer were married on 05 Feb 1832 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA[1, 4]. They had the following children: Nancy Catherine McFarland[1] was born on 07 Oct 1832 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA[1]. She died on 06 Feb 1917 in Cannon, TN, USA[1]. Notes for Nancy Catherine McFarland: General Notes: DOB 10 Oct 1832 accg. Mary Kight. Christian Priscilla McFarland[1] was born in 1836 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA[1]. She died in 1905 in Warren, TN, USA[1]. Elizabeth Caroline McFarland[1] was born in 1838 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA[1]. William Vann McFarland[1] was born in 1841 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA[1]. Martha Ann McFarland[1] was born on 03 Sep 1843 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA[1]. She died on 25 Jan 1909 in Coffee, TN, USA. vi. America Josephine McFarland[1, 6, 7] was born on 20 Jan 1845 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA[7]. She married William Green C Davis on 25 Jan 1869 in Coffee, TN, USA[6, 7]. She died on 08 Feb 1934 in Scottsboro, Jackson, AL, USA. Russell Jackson McFarland[1] was born on 31 Dec 1847 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA[1]. He died on 02 Jul 1935 in Garth, Jackson, AL, USA. Notes for Russell Jackson McFarland: General Notes: Spelling according to Mary Kight. Salina Paralee McFarland[1] was born in 1849 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA[1]. Rosanna Charlotte McFarland[1] was born on 28 Jan 1853 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA[1]. She died on 24 Jul 1909 in Woodbury, Coffee, TN, USA[1]. Henry Robert McFarland[1] was born on 16 Feb 1855 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA[1]. Sarah Angeline McFarland[1] was born on 24 Mar 1858 in Coffee, TN, USA[1]. She died on 08 May 1930 in Coffee, TN, USA[1]. Notes for Sarah Angeline McFarland: General Notes: from FTM website Could that be typo for Sarah Adaline? Generation 3 3. America Josephine McFarland-3 (Sarah Martha-2, Russell-1)[1, 6, 7] was born on 20 Jan 1845 in Warren, Fayette, TN, USA[7]. She died on 08 Feb 1934 in Scottsboro, Jackson, AL, USA. Notes for America Josephine McFarland: General Notes: Last name also spelled McFarlane in some records. (LDS e.g.) William Green C Davis son of Jonathan G Davis and Elizabeth Gilley[6] was born on 27 Nov 1847 in Coffee, TN, USA[6, 7, 8]. He died on 04 Aug 1902 in Scottsboro, Jackson, AL, USA[7, 8]. Notes for William Green C Davis: General Notes: Alabama marriage records for James S. and Sarah E. Davis: Bride's father's name: W.G. Davis William? Marriage took place at home of Wm. Davis on Cumberland Mountain. William Green C Davis and America Josephine McFarland were married on 25 Jan 1869 in Coffee, TN, USA[6, 7]. They had the following children: Sarah Elizabeth Davis[9] was born on 09 May 1870 in Near Woodbury, Cannon, TN, USA[9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14]. She married James Seaborn Lovless on 30 Oct 1884 in Larkinsville, AL, USA. She died on 02 Jan 1949 in Lonsdale, TN, USA. Joseph Vann Davis was born on 28 Jan 1874 in Near Woodbury, Cannon, TN, USA. He married Martha Shelton on 01 Feb 1894 in Larkinsville, Alabama. Mary Jane Davis[6] was born on 26 Sep 1878 in Scottsboro, Jackson, AL, USA[6]. She married Hiram Alexander Bennett in 1900. She died on 11 Jul 1966 in Franklin, TN, USA. Notes for Mary Jane Davis: General Notes: Bertha's letter: "Aunt Janie Davis" Rosa A Davis was born on 15 Jul 1881 in Scottsboro, Jackson, AL, USA. She married Matthew F. Shelton on 05 Oct 1899 in Franklin, TN, USA. She died on 04 Feb 1954 in Tullahoma, TN, USA. Notes for Rosa A Davis: General Notes: Names of children from Jeanne Wilson's notes from 1981 trip and visits to Loveless relatives. Sources 1. Ancestry.com, OneWorldTree (Provo, UT, USA, The Generations Network, Inc.), www.ancestry.com, Database online. Record for Sarah Martha Brewer. 2. Ancestry.com, 1850 United States Federal Census (Provo, UT, USA, The Generations Network, Inc., 2005), www.ancestry.com, Database online. Year: 1850; Census Place: District 13, Warren, Tennessee; Roll: M432_898; Page: 82A; Image:. Record for Russell Brewer. 3. Ancestry.com, OneWorldTree (Provo, UT, USA, The Generations Network, Inc.), www.ancestry.com, Database online. Record for John Toliver. 4. Ancestry.com, OneWorldTree (Provo, UT, USA, The Generations Network, Inc.), www.ancestry.com, Database online. Record for Anger Price McFarland. 5. Ancestry.com, OneWorldTree (Provo, UT, USA, The Generations Network, Inc.), www.ancestry.com, Database online. Record for William M Mcfarland. 6. Ancestry.com, 1900 United States Federal Census (Provo, UT, USA, The Generations Network, Inc., 2004), www.ancestry.com, Database online. Civil District 8, Franklin, Tennessee, ED , roll , page. Record for William G Davis. 7. Ancestry.com, OneWorldTree (Provo, UT, USA, The Generations Network, Inc.), www.ancestry.com, Database online. Record for William Greene Davis. 8. Ancestry.com, OneWorldTree (Provo, UT, USA, The Generations Network, Inc.), www.ancestry.com, Database online. Record for Jonathan G Davis. 9. Ancestry.com, Public Member Trees (Provo, UT, USA, The Generations Network, Inc., 2006), www.ancestry.com, Database online. Record for Annie G Loveless. 10. Ancestry.com, 1910 United States Federal Census (Provo, UT, USA, The Generations Network, Inc., 2006), www.ancestry.com, Database online. Lonsdale, Knox, Tennessee, ED , roll T624_1508, part , page. Record for Robert M Loveless. 11. Ancestry.com, 1900 United States Federal Census (Provo, UT, USA, The Generations Network, Inc., 2004), www.ancestry.com, Database online. Knoxville Ward 10, Knox, Tennessee, ED , roll , page. Record for Sallie J Loveless. 12. Ancestry.com, 1900 United States Federal Census (Provo, UT, USA, The Generations Network, Inc., 2004), www.ancestry.com, Database online. Knoxville Ward 10, Knox, Tennessee, ED , roll , page. Record for Bessie P Loveless. 13. Ancestry.com, 1900 United States Federal Census (Provo, UT, USA, The Generations Network, Inc., 2004), www.ancestry.com, Database online. Knoxville Ward 10, Knox, Tennessee, ED , roll , page. Record for Bertha M Loveless. 14. Ancestry.com, 1910 United States Federal Census (Provo, UT, USA, The Generations Network, Inc., 2006), www.ancestry.com, Database online. Year: 1910; Census Place: Lonsdale, Knox, Tennessee; Roll: T624_1508; Page: 24A; Enumeration District: 121; Image: 1203. Record for Annie G Loveless.

Mornin' Cuzzies, Wonderful tropical downpour yesterday afternoon.....heat causing afternoon showers to build. Really cools things off a bit, and the plants love it. The cat crew love to not "deck sit".....they "deck lie".....in the evening on the cooled off boards. With smiles, I might add. They get all stretched out in the wet and flip their tails happily, flinging the ruminants of water that is left. I've mentioned from time to time my high school graduating class......still joined at the hip though living all over the country.....185 of us originally. We've been all over, met lots of people, done lots of things, but still claim our class is the best group we've ever known. And, from time to time, one picks up and just moves on outta here.....which distresses us all greatly.....even though we are slightly long in tooth. The stories and emails flying around are just amazing! Two of the funniest stories I've ever heard in my life were from this gal.....and unfortunately, I can't tell them......Mary Ann was a tad on the risque side. She was a dreamer and a published poet. Ashes were scattered in the Mayan Sian Ka'an biological reserve in the Yucatán peninsula "Where the Sky is Born"......I loooove it! Off to take Mr. Kat to the vet.....he's feeling poorly.....not eating well. ) : Have a good one! Buckette

Terry W. I have found a nice Brewer web page (www.brewer-family.org). Not sure how accurate it is. BREWER ROLL CALL I am sure this is not quite right, but this is what I have obtained mostly from other Brewer postings. Several different opinions about (1) - (8). Fairly sure about (10) - (13). (1) William "The Phisitian" b: Abt. 1548/1550 England d: 1618 England + Diomisis Deannes Baker b: Bet.1520-1550 England d: 1614 (2) Thomas b: Abt. 1572-1578 England, d: Sep. 4, 1637 (LDS) England + Ann Drake b: Abt. 1570 England, d: Bet. 1592-1665 (3) John I b: Abt. 1594 England, d: 1636 Isle of Wight Co., VA + Mary Groves b: Abt. 1595 in: Kent, England (LDS) (4) John II b: 1600 England, d: 1669 Isle of Wight, VA + Ann Skinner b: Abt. 1622 England, d: Abt. 1700 (5) John III b: 1635 VA, d: 1705 VA + Elizabeth Rice b: 1648 in: Massachusetts d:1739 in: Massachusetts (6) George G. b: Abt. 1670 VA, d: 1744 VA + Sarah Lanier b: Abt. 1686 VA, d: Abt. 1729 (7) Lanier, Sr. b: 1716 VA, d: Abt. 1795 + Joanna Edmunds b: 1714 Brunswick, VA (8) Lanier Jr. b: Abt. 1746, d: Abt. 1800 + Narcissus LNU + Rebecca LNU (9) George III b: Abt. 1775 Moore Co., NC, d: Bef. Oct 1850 TN + Jane Butler b: 1780 NC, d: Aft. Oct 1850 TN (10) Sampson b: 1816 NC, d: Sep. 4, 1893 Little Rock, AR + Mary Polly Cockman b: 1818 TN, d: June 15, 1893 Little Rock, AR (11) John W. b: 1836 TN, d: Aug 3, 1877 AR + Mary Jane Finley b: 1838 AR, d: June 2, 1907 AR (12) William R. b: 1858 AR, d: 1932 Little Rock, AR + Julia Lee Thompson b: 1880, d: 1941 Little Rock, AR (13) Sidney Lenord b: 1901AR, d: 1978 Little Rock, AR + Brunie Mae Lemons b: 1908, d: 1980 (a) my living father-in-law Tom Loveless

>From: "janice reed" <jreed47@centurytel.net> >Source: ARIZARD@rootsweb.com >Subject: [ARIZARD] death index 1915-1950 "L" > >Arkansas Death Index, 1914-1950 Department of Health > >The date preceeding the word "Izard" is supposedly a birth date > >Disclaimer: I know this isn't all the people who died during these >years from Izard County. > >It looks as if some middle names are abrev. I cut and pasted these, >and they are as they appeared on the index. This is a very long list >so I will post it in segments. > >Janice <<snip>> >Elizebet Lovelace Izard 28 Apr 1935 >T J Lovelace Izard 27 Oct 1940 <<snip>>

David Wilson and Pam/Tom Loveless:   I would be interested in the particulars of your Brewer descent, if you can find the time. I cannot seem to find it on the internet just yet.   Best regards,   Terry --- On Sun, 6/20/10, terrence White <revenant1963@yahoo.com> wrote: From: terrence White <revenant1963@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [LL] William Physician Brewer To: lovelace@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, June 20, 2010, 7:54 PM To David Wilson, and Tom and Pam Loveless,   I am delighted to discover that I am related to both of you via the Brewers as well as the Lovelxxxes! Small world indeed!   To David--no, in my line we had always believed we were "Whites", and had never, therefore, heard any lore about any Cherokee ancestry. (Now, of course, we know that genetically we are Brewers.) I do see from elsewhere on the internet (other Brewer descendants no doubt) that Lanier Brewer Jr. supposedly had two successive wives, with children by both wives, plus an Indian squaw concubine on the side, with children by her! He supposedly fathered no less than 30 sons and 3 daughters by those three women!   Because my earliest provable "White" ancestor Jacob White Jr. born 1772 NC (genetically identical to the modal haplotype for descendants of George Brewer and Sarah Lanier) came from North Carolina, and because in the 1790 census of NC, of the 3 men named Jacob White in that census, one lived in Chatham County NC--exactly the same county where so many of these Brewer men lived prior to moving to Tennessee, I am now strongly inclining toward believing that it may have been my ancestor Jacob White "Jr" who may have been fathered by a Brewer (perhaps that same prodigious Lanier Brewer Jr.), and then perhaps adopted by a man named Jacob White of NC, and given the White surname. This little theory of mine makes enormous sense to me.   Given that we "Whites" who have tested (my 4th cousin Roger and I) exactly match the modal haplotype of the "Lanier-Brewer" group (descendants of George and Sarah Lanier Brewer), I am inclined to strongly suspect that the ancestor of mine whose name changed from "Brewer" to "White" had to have lived fairly recently, since there have been no mutations whatsoever (at 37 markers). I do plan, of course, to upgrade to 67 markers. As David will know, those results will be telling.   More on this subject when the 67-marker results come in.   Thanks for speaking up, all of you!   Terry --- On Sun, 6/20/10, David Wilson <dcw1000@verizon.net> wrote: From: David Wilson <dcw1000@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [LL] William Physician Brewer To: lovelace@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, June 20, 2010, 1:10 PM Small world indeed! I tie into the Brewers too, but in a way that I don't completely understand. I have a Lanier Brewer Sr. in the tree, who would be my 6G GF, and whom I currently have (perhaps incorrectly) as a son of George Brewer. I may push at this a bit more today to see if I can straighten this out. Lanier's 2G granddaughter, Sarah Elizabeth Davis (1870-1949) married my GGF James S. Loveless in 1884. There is a story that some of the VA Brewers had Cherokee ancestry. Do you have that lore in your line? David Wilson -----Original Message----- From: lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tom Loveless Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 12:40 PM To: LOVELACE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [LL] William Physician Brewer Hey there Terry W. Funny that you mention William the "Physician" Brewer, of Chard, Somerset. My wife descends from the same guy. Several generations then came a Sampson, son a George Brewer (1775-1850) whose father was  Lanier Brewer, Jr.  b: 1746 in Brunswick Co., VA. Sampson moved from NC, to TN, then to AR where we live. Amazing what a small world it is after all. Thanks for information. Tom and Pam Loveless In really hot and sunny in Little Rock, AR (95+) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2946 - Release Date: 06/19/10 23:37:00 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Interesting response, Talila.   Thanks, Terry --- On Mon, 6/21/10, Talila Stan <talilastan@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Talila Stan <talilastan@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [LL] William Physician Brewer - The subtle ways of genealogy To: lovelace@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, June 21, 2010, 4:12 PM Hi Debbie and cousins,   Debbie wrote: "I am trying to phrase something about the mystic/time warp side of DNA snarls being unraveled."     >From my experience with genealogy, I saw that it works in subtle, hidden ways, and can make many a generation leap.   It seems that it works in this almost mystical ways, when two relatives of a person who come from different branches of his ances-tree, and whose relation to him is remote, have the same extraordinary and distinctive characteristic. In a case known to me a person had on both sides of his family a remote relative who was a well known poet whose radical verses got him into trouble with the government. The poet on his father's side was born in the 17th century in England and was imprisoned by Cromwell in the Tower of London; the other poet, a distant cousin of his mother, was born in the 19th century in Russia and was confined to his home by Stalin. The person himself, who was born in the 20th century, was nearly imprisoned for the same reasons.  At that time he was only dimly aware of his mother's distant cousin and had no knowledge what so ever about the poet imprisoned in 17th century England. Therefore it can't be said that he was influenced by his heritage and driven into this role because of solidarity with it.   In this respect maybe genes resemble homeopathic medicine – being potentially very powerful even though diluted and dormant for many generations.     Talila       --- On Mon, 6/21/10, Debbie Burke <shadagee@irishsetter.org> wrote: From: Debbie Burke <shadagee@irishsetter.org> Subject: Re: [LL] William Physician Brewer To: lovelace@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, June 21, 2010, 8:45 PM I am trying to phrase something about the mystic/time warp side of DNA snarls being unraveled.  Such a lot of food for thought.....but I can't seem to find the right way to describe  it without minimizing what you're all finding out right now.  And that's not what I intend. ----- Original Message ----- From: "terrence White" <revenant1963@yahoo.com> To: <lovelace@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [LL] William Physician Brewer To David Wilson, and Tom and Pam Loveless, I am delighted to discover that I am related to both of you via the Brewers as well as the Lovelxxxes! Small world indeed! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mornin' Cuzzies, First day of summertime.....As a chile, I celebrated way too early I think.....like at 3:45 in the afternoon when the last day of school was out in May.....that's when I let out a war whoop! Then I did it again yrs. later when Da Kid would get outta school for the summer. Getting thru the Open championship in golf was a real chore over the week-end. That was the meanest, wickedest golf course Ah ever saw! It just took all the fun outta the whole thing. But, I was fascinated w/ this nutty Lexus ad running for some ugly little car.... oh, yes, contrary to Da Kid, I think all cars are ugly these days. He sez he checked out this car they were advertising on the net, and it sold for a cool $350,000+! Surely they didn't sell any of those booger bears?! o : All is well on this end. The cat crew is very busy being very lazy! Y'all have a good one! Buckette