Thanks for that info. It helped me fill in some blanks on my Lovelace Family page. My ancestor is Thomas A. Lovelace who was Archibald's brother. If anyone else sees anything that needs correcting or have other info, let me know. I am new at this so be patient with me! http://haywoodcountyline.com/lovelacefamily.html Thanks, Scott ________________________________ From: "kellenda@aol.com" <kellenda@aol.com> To: lovelace@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, July 29, 2010 12:16:58 PM Subject: Re: [LL] Two Archibald LOVELACEs b. abt. 1809 - numerous discrepancies The Archibald you speak us is my great-great grandfather. My grandfather the son of James Martin Lovelace also was Archibald, he was Archibald Elam Lovelace. My records come from my dad- Dennis Alfred Lovelace, the son of Archibald Elam and his sister Addie. They personally new their grandfather James Martin the son of Archibald. Archibald Lovelace was B 1806. D 1905. M. Nacy A. Holman. He was married three times, Nancy was the mother of all his children. 2nd wife's name Wheeler, 3rd wife Fisher. He was 84, she was 44. Archie & Nancy moved together with Sally & Henry from North Carolina to Mo. in 1838, selling their land on Hunting Creek in N.C. Nancy was killed in a runaway accident returning home from Smithton , Mo. They had gone to purchase their daughter Nancy's wedding clothes. This was before 1868. They had 9 children. David-b. 8/19/1829-Thomas b-4/3/1831-Elam-b-3/28/1833-Elizabeth b-6/23/1835-James Martin-b-4/23/1837-my great-grandfather-Alfred Missouri-b-6/23/1839- Lucy Ann-b8/20/1845-Archibald Levi-b-5/24/1847-Nancy R. -b-3/28/1850 Denise Lovelace Kellenbeck -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Sengstack <jeff@sengstack.com> To: LOVELACE@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, Jul 28, 2010 9:08 pm Subject: [LL] Two Archibald LOVELACEs b. abt. 1809 - numerous discrepancies Hello, I am researching the LOVELACE line and have run into some discrepancies ith Lovelace family trees I've seen posted on Ancestry.com and messages osted here. What I am certain about is that the line I'm researching goes back to emuel M. LOVELACE b. 1837 (twin brother of Manuel LOVELACE) who married usan C. GRUNDY. Where things fall apart is with Lemuel's father, rchibald LOVELACE. An 1850 census (I have a JPG file, but here is a link to the text: ttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/lovelace/1998-08/0903471394) otes that Archibald was married to Mary M. What I don't know, is who re Archibald's parents (I also am not certain of who Mary M. is...but hat's another story). -- Are Archibald's parents Thomas LOVELACE (b. 1772) and Amelia ermela DYSON (b. 1773)?. An extensive tree posted by Tami Bearden http://www.fortunecity.com/millenium/rockbridge/597/bearden/lovelace.htm) ays they are and that Mary M. was Archibald's second wife. -- Are Archibald's parents Andrew LOVELACE b. Feb 3 1776 and Rebecca OLEMAN. A 1998 posting from Gary W. Lovelace says this is the case http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/lovelace/1998-05/0896362101) posting from Jack Lovelace http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/lovelace/2004-09/1095134675) ays essentially the same thing. Jack adds that Mary M. is Mary M. URDOM (I think PURDOM was the last name of Mary's third husband -- I hink her maiden name might have been ASHLEY). -- Finally, is it possible that researchers have mixed up the two ets of Archibald's parents? Perhaps they've mistakenly placed the rchibald (father of Lemuel) with the wrong set of parents? Handwritten ecords from Inez LOVELACE (Lemuel's daughter) make references to uncles brothers of Archibald) from the union of Andrew LOVELACE (b. 1776) and ebecca HOLEMAN (b. 1775). But the Archibald from those parents married ancy Harmon (not Mary M). In the end, perhaps the way to identify the Archibald LOVELACEs born etween 1808-1811 is to look for spouses. Here are all the spouses I've ound for the two Archibald LOVELACEs discussed here. There are several ombinations and permutations of spousal arrangements. Nancy HARMAN ean ERWIN ancy HOLEMAN ary M. ary PURDOM elila A. ella annah WHEELER ary ASHLEY Bottom line, I guess, is how strong is the documentation that connects he two Archibald LOVELACEs with their respective parents? And who were heir respective spouses (or sets of spouses)? Thanks to whomever can figure this out. Jeff Sengstack ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a copy of Thomas and Amelia's bible from Faye Lovelace to Mr T.E. Swann in Statesville , NC tha I took from his personal files at his home . Thanks to his wife Mrs Ada Swann before she died . katherine82@insightbb.com

Was the Hunting Creek Property in Wilkes , Rowan, Davie or Iredell Co, NC?? Thanks Larry On 7/29/2010 1:16 PM, kellenda@aol.com wrote: > The Archibald you speak us is my great-great grandfather. My grandfather the son of James Martin Lovelace also was Archibald, he was Archibald Elam Lovelace. My records come > from my dad- Dennis Alfred Lovelace, the son of Archibald Elam and his sister Addie. > They personally new their grandfather James Martin the son of Archibald. > > Archibald Lovelace was B 1806. D 1905. M. Nacy A. Holman. He was married three times, Nancy was the mother of all his children. 2nd wife's name Wheeler, 3rd wife Fisher. He was 84, she was 44. Archie& Nancy moved together with Sally& Henry from North Carolina to > Mo. in 1838, selling their land on Hunting Creek in N.C. > > Nancy was killed in a runaway accident returning home from Smithton , Mo. They had > gone to purchase their daughter Nancy's wedding clothes. This was before 1868. > > They had 9 children. David-b. 8/19/1829-Thomas b-4/3/1831-Elam-b-3/28/1833-Elizabeth > b-6/23/1835-James Martin-b-4/23/1837-my great-grandfather-Alfred Missouri-b-6/23/1839- > Lucy Ann-b8/20/1845-Archibald Levi-b-5/24/1847-Nancy R. -b-3/28/1850 > > Denise Lovelace Kellenbeck > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff Sengstack<jeff@sengstack.com> > To: LOVELACE@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wed, Jul 28, 2010 9:08 pm > Subject: [LL] Two Archibald LOVELACEs b. abt. 1809 - numerous discrepancies > > > Hello, > I am researching the LOVELACE line and have run into some discrepancies > ith Lovelace family trees I've seen posted on Ancestry.com and messages > osted here. > What I am certain about is that the line I'm researching goes back to > emuel M. LOVELACE b. 1837 (twin brother of Manuel LOVELACE) who married > usan C. GRUNDY. Where things fall apart is with Lemuel's father, > rchibald LOVELACE. > An 1850 census (I have a JPG file, but here is a link to the text: > ttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/lovelace/1998-08/0903471394) > otes that Archibald was married to Mary M. What I don't know, is who > re Archibald's parents (I also am not certain of who Mary M. is...but > hat's another story). > -- Are Archibald's parents Thomas LOVELACE (b. 1772) and Amelia > ermela DYSON (b. 1773)?. An extensive tree posted by Tami Bearden > http://www.fortunecity.com/millenium/rockbridge/597/bearden/lovelace.htm) > ays they are and that Mary M. was Archibald's second wife. > -- Are Archibald's parents Andrew LOVELACE b. Feb 3 1776 and Rebecca > OLEMAN. A 1998 posting from Gary W. Lovelace says this is the case > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/lovelace/1998-05/0896362101) > posting from Jack Lovelace > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/lovelace/2004-09/1095134675) > ays essentially the same thing. Jack adds that Mary M. is Mary M. > URDOM (I think PURDOM was the last name of Mary's third husband -- I > hink her maiden name might have been ASHLEY). > -- Finally, is it possible that researchers have mixed up the two > ets of Archibald's parents? Perhaps they've mistakenly placed the > rchibald (father of Lemuel) with the wrong set of parents? Handwritten > ecords from Inez LOVELACE (Lemuel's daughter) make references to uncles > brothers of Archibald) from the union of Andrew LOVELACE (b. 1776) and > ebecca HOLEMAN (b. 1775). But the Archibald from those parents married > ancy Harmon (not Mary M). > In the end, perhaps the way to identify the Archibald LOVELACEs born > etween 1808-1811 is to look for spouses. Here are all the spouses I've > ound for the two Archibald LOVELACEs discussed here. There are several > ombinations and permutations of spousal arrangements. > Nancy HARMAN > ean ERWIN > ancy HOLEMAN > ary M. > ary PURDOM > elila A. > ella > annah WHEELER > ary ASHLEY > Bottom line, I guess, is how strong is the documentation that connects > he two Archibald LOVELACEs with their respective parents? And who were > heir respective spouses (or sets of spouses)? > Thanks to whomever can figure this out. > Jeff Sengstack > > ------------------------------ > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > he message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ NOD32 5318 (20100727) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > >

Dear Cuzin' Buckette, I have been gone for almost 2 weeks on a road-trip of some miles. I just read your message about Ole' Buckley. My thoughts are with you. Cuzin' Mary in West Virginia ----- Original Message ----- From: <spice3@juno.com> To: <lovelace@rootsweb.com>; <Overstreet@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 1:00 AM Subject: Re: [LL] Tues Jul 20, 2010 > Dear beloved cuzzies, > > So many friends I have here! Today is a different note. > > Thirteen months ago this silly Ole Buckley turned up w/ leukemia....both > of his > brothers died of it. It was not happy.....he had chemo which practically > killed > him....came close to dying twice. But, pulled himself together right > after 10 > days in the hospital during Christmas.....told to Doc to keep his chemo, > and > really had a nice quality of life for about 6 months. Got up every day, > dressed, > drove, and cooked which he loved to do....and wise cracked.....as usual. > > The last three weeks have been a little tough as he was going down hill > again, > and he was facing more hospital time and some tough stuff. > > But, God bless him and God bless God.....he left this morning during a > nap, > as quiet and peaceful as could be, in his own bed at home w/ no nurses or > Hospice hovering over him....and Da Kid had been over the night before for > a visit. He would have been 83 in a couple of weeks. > > It was a fun ride.....we both hated and loved each other as in all > marriages. > We didn't marry until he was 46, and he always remained an independent, > do it himself bachelor type.....and he was funny! > > Da Kidand I are fine.....lots to do.....and I'm dead tired for starters. > But, you > who have been thru it know how that goes. > > Take great good care.....and I'll probably be gone for a few days.....and > then > who knows.....I may not. ( : > > Susan > > aka Buckette to the Lovelesses > > Oh, and one footnote....today is my Momma's <both Overstreet and Lovelace> > birthday. How 'bout that one! o : > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Terry, I'm in the process of having my dad's DNA tested...he has done 25 and they are now doing the 37 markers. Based on your description, it sounds like the 67 marker is really what I need. Thank you for going into all the detail about markers and their value. I have no formal records beyond my great grandfather so I'm trying to link into my g-g grandfather's lineage. Greg (#1) provided me with some very helpful info from some research he did. This group is wonderful about sharing their knowledge - as a beginner in the quest for family info, it is greatly appreciated! Cindy (Loveless) Cary -----Original Message----- From: lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of terrence White Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 4:06 PM To: lovelace@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LL] Family Finder on Family Tree DNA Carolyn,   The family finder test could indeed be useful. Although it is a new test, I've already heard of several 'success stories' from using it.   But first, I must ask what you mean when you say that your husband "matches" several other men. Does he match at 12 markers, or at 25 markers, or at 37 markers (or even 67 markers)?   A 12 marker "match" will not mean very much at all--it only shows that your husband's pre-Ice Age ancestors sprang from the same stock as those other men--it is not at all useful for recent genealogical time frames. Ditto for a 25 marker "match". The only really useful "matches" are the 37 marker ones, and (especially) the 67 marker matches.   If your husband matches any of those men at 37 markers, then you have some solid leads, and an upgrade to 67 markers is definitely warranted!   If you've only tested him to 12 or 25 markers, then you really need to upgrade to at least 37. (Some of my genealogist friends even insist that only the 67 marker test is really worthwhile, however, and won't even touch anyone who has tested to lower levels than that!)   Hope this helps!   Terry W. --- On Thu, 7/29/10, Carolyn McCoy <c2mccoy@gmail.com> wrote: From: Carolyn McCoy <c2mccoy@gmail.com> Subject: [LL] Family Finder on Family Tree DNA To: "Lovelace List" <lovelace@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, July 29, 2010, 3:52 PM Can anyone tell me the advantage of taking part in the Family Finder Test from the Family Tree DNA group?  My husband submitted DNA to the McKay (since there is not a McCoy group) Family DNA study and he matches several other surnames, but no McCoys (or McKays).  Would the Family Finder test help at all? Thanks, Carolyn ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message This e-mail transmission may contain confidential or legally privileged information that is intended only for the individual(s) or entity(ies) named in the e-mail address. If you are not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance upon the contents of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately, so that Endo can arrange for proper delivery, and then please delete the message from your system. Thank you. <Virus Scanned by Microsoft ForeFront Online Security>

Terry, We have just requested an upgrade to 67 markers for my husband. He has one exact match in the 25 marker category and several with 2, 3 and 4 distances on the 25 and 37 categories. Also, my cousin, Barry Lovelace, who submitted his DNA to the Lovelace DNA study was wondering if he should go for the Family Finder test. His DNA places us in the Maryland group and the Dorset, England, group. Would the Family Finder tell us more? Thanks, Terry. Carolyn On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 3:06 PM, terrence White <revenant1963@yahoo.com>wrote: > Carolyn, > > The family finder test could indeed be useful. Although it is a new test, > I've already heard of several 'success stories' from using it. > > But first, I must ask what you mean when you say that your husband > "matches" several other men. Does he match at 12 markers, or at 25 markers, > or at 37 markers (or even 67 markers)? > > A 12 marker "match" will not mean very much at all--it only shows that your > husband's pre-Ice Age ancestors sprang from the same stock as those other > men--it is not at all useful for recent genealogical time frames. Ditto for > a 25 marker "match". The only really useful "matches" are the 37 marker > ones, and (especially) the 67 marker matches. > > If your husband matches any of those men at 37 markers, then you have some > solid leads, and an upgrade to 67 markers is definitely warranted! > > If you've only tested him to 12 or 25 markers, then you really need to > upgrade to at least 37. (Some of my genealogist friends even insist that > only the 67 marker test is really worthwhile, however, and won't even touch > anyone who has tested to lower levels than that!) > > Hope this helps! > > Terry W. > > > --- On Thu, 7/29/10, Carolyn McCoy <c2mccoy@gmail.com> wrote: > > > From: Carolyn McCoy <c2mccoy@gmail.com> > Subject: [LL] Family Finder on Family Tree DNA > To: "Lovelace List" <lovelace@rootsweb.com> > Date: Thursday, July 29, 2010, 3:52 PM > > > Can anyone tell me the advantage of taking part in the Family Finder Test > from the Family Tree DNA group? My husband submitted DNA to the McKay > (since there is not a McCoy group) Family DNA study and he matches several > other surnames, but no McCoys (or McKays). Would the Family Finder test > help at all? > Thanks, > Carolyn > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Jeff, As you are aware, Lemuel M. Lovelace appears on the 1850 census of McCracken County, Kentucky in the household of Archibald Lovelace and his wife Mary M. Lovelace. Archibald's age is given as 42 [born 1807-1808]. Mary's age is given as 39 [born 1810-1811]. Archibald is found on the 1860 census of McCracken County, Kentucky, where he is listed as Archie Loveless and his wife is listed as Mary A. Loveless. Archibald's age is given as 52 [born 1807-1808]. Mary's age is given as 50 [born 1809-1810]. On both the 1850 census and the 1860 census, Archibald is listed as being born in Kentucky and Mary is listed as being born in Tennessee. On the 1870 census for McCracken County, Kentucky, Archibald is listed as Archibald Lovelace, age 62 [born 1807-1808] and born in Kentucky. His wife is listed as Della A. Lovelace, age 38 [born 1831-1832], born in Tennessee. On the 1880 census for McCracken County, Kentucky, Archibald is listed as Archibald Loveace, age 72 [born 1807-1808], born in Kentucky. His wife is listed as Delila A. Loveace, age 49 [born 1830-1831], born in Tennessee. There is a marriage record in Alexander County, Illinois for an Archibald Lovelace and Polly M. Ashley, dated 13 Aug 1829. If you look at a map of the United States that identifies counties, you will see that Alexander County, Illinois is just across the Ohio River from McCracken County, Kentucky. As you are aware Polly is a nickname for Mary. Mary married Archibald when she was 19 years of age. She died, still married to Archibald, between 1861 and 1863. I have found no record indicating that she was ever married to anyone else. [At this point in time, I do not know where the name Mary M. Purdom came from. I do not have that name in my database.] There is a marriage record in McCracken County, Kentucky, for Archibald Lovelace and Delia Lovelace, dated 20 Jan 1864. There is a marriage record in Carter County, Tennessee, for David S. Lovelace and Delila Fletecher, on 16 Feb 1848. David and Delila are found on the 1850 and 1860 census for McCracken County, Kentucky. Archibald Lovelace is found on the 1830 and 1840 census for McCracken County, Kentucky. In 1840, his age is given as 30 & under 40 [born 1800-1810]. His wife's age is given as 20 & under 30 [born 1810-1820]. In 1830, Archibald's age is given as 20 & under 30 [born 1800-1810]. His wife's age is given as 20 & under 30 [born 1800-1810]. In 1830, there are actually two Archibald Lovelaces listed. The age of the second Archibald is 50 & under 60. The age of his wife is 40 & under 50. This is Archibald Richard Lovelace, born 28 Jun 1778 in Rowan County, North Carolina, died 1831-1843 in McCracken County, Kentucky, or Ballard County, Kentucky. Archibald Richard was not found on the 1840 census and his wife is listed on the tax records for Ballard County, Kentucky, in 1843. Archibald Richard was married twice. The name of his first wife is not known, but they were married between 1800 and 1807 in Logan County, Kentucky. His second wife was Elizabeth Duposture. They were married 14 Jun 1813 in Butler County, Kentucky. I do not know if Duposture is Elizabeth's maiden name or her married name. In 1810, on the Butler County, Kentucky, census, Archibald Richard has a tick mark for a son of the right age to be Archibald who married Mary Ashley. In 1820, on the Ohio County, Kentucky, census, he does not have a son of the right age. Archibald Richard is the brother of Andrew Lovelace. Both are the sons of Elias Lovelace and Anne Robey, grandsons of JBL and Eleanor Wilcoxen. Andrew is the father of Archibald who married Mary Ashley. Andrew was born 03 Feb 1776 in Rowan County, North Carolina, and died 11 Dec 1863 in Lovelaceville, McCracken County, Kentucky. There is a marriage bond record for the marriage of Andrew Lovelace and Rebecca Holman, dated 06 Oct 1795, in Surry County, North Carolina. Andrew was 19 years of age and Rebecca was also 19 years of age. In 1800, Andrew is found on the tax list for Logan County, Kentucky. In 1808, Andrew is listed as a trustee for the Town of Suffolk in Logan County, Kentucky. In 1810, Butler County, Kentucky was created from Logan County, Kentucky. In 1810, Andrew is listed on the census for Butler County, Kentucky. He has a tick mark for a son of the right age to be Archibald. In 1820, Andrew is listed on the census for Butler County, Kentucky. He has a tick mark for a son of the right age to be Archibald. In 1823, Andrew appears on the tax list for Butler County, Kentucky. In 1830 and 1840, Andrew appears on the census for McCracken County, Kentucky. In 1850 and 1860, Andrew appears on the census for Ballard County, Kentucky. Thomas A. Lovelace (1772-1829) and Amelia Permela Dyson (1777-1829) also had a son named Archibald who was born 28 Mar 1806 in Iredell County, North Carolina. This Archibald died in 1895 in Missouri. Archibald, son of Thomas, married Nancy A. Holman (1809-1867) on 05 Feb 1827 in Rowan County, North Carolina. Archibald, son of Thomas, is found on the 1830 census for Iredell County, North Carolina, and the 1840, 1850, 1860, 1870, and 1880 census for Pettis County, Missouri. In 1842, he was named a Justice of the Peace in Pettis County. Archibald, son of Thomas, married 2nd to Hannah F. Morris on 05 Jul 1868 in Pettis County, Missouri, the widow of Amos H. Wheeler, and 3rd to Lutitia Ferguson some time after 1880. Archibald Lovelace b: May 1861 in Frederick County, Maryland, d: about 1847 in Wilkes County, North Carolina, son of JBL and Eleanor Wilcoxen, married Jean Erwin on 08 Oct 1786 in Rowan County, North Carolina. Jeff Sengstack wrote: > Hello, > > I am researching the LOVELACE line and have run into some discrepancies > with Lovelace family trees I've seen posted on Ancestry.com and messages > posted here. > > What I am certain about is that the line I'm researching goes back to > Lemuel M. LOVELACE b. 1837 (twin brother of Manuel LOVELACE) who married > Susan C. GRUNDY. Where things fall apart is with Lemuel's father, > Archibald LOVELACE. > > An 1850 census (I have a JPG file, but here is a link to the text: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/lovelace/1998-08/0903471394) > notes that Archibald was married to Mary M. What I don't know, is who > are Archibald's parents (I also am not certain of who Mary M. is...but > that's another story). > > -- Are Archibald's parents Thomas LOVELACE (b. 1772) and Amelia > Permela DYSON (b. 1773)?. An extensive tree posted by Tami Bearden > (http://www.fortunecity.com/millenium/rockbridge/597/bearden/lovelace.htm) > says they are and that Mary M. was Archibald's second wife. > > -- Are Archibald's parents Andrew LOVELACE b. Feb 3 1776 and Rebecca > HOLEMAN. A 1998 posting from Gary W. Lovelace says this is the case > (http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/lovelace/1998-05/0896362101) > A posting from Jack Lovelace > (http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/lovelace/2004-09/1095134675) > says essentially the same thing. Jack adds that Mary M. is Mary M. > PURDOM (I think PURDOM was the last name of Mary's third husband -- I > think her maiden name might have been ASHLEY). > > -- Finally, is it possible that researchers have mixed up the two > sets of Archibald's parents? Perhaps they've mistakenly placed the > Archibald (father of Lemuel) with the wrong set of parents? Handwritten > records from Inez LOVELACE (Lemuel's daughter) make references to uncles > (brothers of Archibald) from the union of Andrew LOVELACE (b. 1776) and > Rebecca HOLEMAN (b. 1775). But the Archibald from those parents married > Nancy Harmon (not Mary M). > > In the end, perhaps the way to identify the Archibald LOVELACEs born > between 1808-1811 is to look for spouses. Here are all the spouses I've > found for the two Archibald LOVELACEs discussed here. There are several > combinations and permutations of spousal arrangements. > > Nancy HARMAN > Jean ERWIN > Nancy HOLEMAN > Mary M. > Mary PURDOM > Delila A. > Della > Hannah WHEELER > Mary ASHLEY > > Bottom line, I guess, is how strong is the documentation that connects > the two Archibald LOVELACEs with their respective parents? And who were > their respective spouses (or sets of spouses)? > > Thanks to whomever can figure this out. > > Jeff Sengstack > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- Jack D. Lovelace

Can anyone tell me the advantage of taking part in the Family Finder Test from the Family Tree DNA group? My husband submitted DNA to the McKay (since there is not a McCoy group) Family DNA study and he matches several other surnames, but no McCoys (or McKays). Would the Family Finder test help at all? Thanks, Carolyn

According to my records Archibald's father was Thomas Lovelace. He married Amelia Dyson. Buried, Statesville,& N.C. Lewis graveyard, Indell Co. N.C. 1829. Eleanor wife of John Baptist Lovelace, Thomas's Lovelace's granmother buried in Lewis cemetery in 1776 Denise Lovelace Kellenbeck -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Sengstack <jeff@sengstack.com> To: LOVELACE@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, Jul 28, 2010 9:08 pm Subject: [LL] Two Archibald LOVELACEs b. abt. 1809 - numerous discrepancies Hello, I am researching the LOVELACE line and have run into some discrepancies ith Lovelace family trees I've seen posted on Ancestry.com and messages osted here. What I am certain about is that the line I'm researching goes back to emuel M. LOVELACE b. 1837 (twin brother of Manuel LOVELACE) who married usan C. GRUNDY. Where things fall apart is with Lemuel's father, rchibald LOVELACE. An 1850 census (I have a JPG file, but here is a link to the text: ttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/lovelace/1998-08/0903471394) otes that Archibald was married to Mary M. What I don't know, is who re Archibald's parents (I also am not certain of who Mary M. is...but hat's another story). -- Are Archibald's parents Thomas LOVELACE (b. 1772) and Amelia ermela DYSON (b. 1773)?. An extensive tree posted by Tami Bearden http://www.fortunecity.com/millenium/rockbridge/597/bearden/lovelace.htm) ays they are and that Mary M. was Archibald's second wife. -- Are Archibald's parents Andrew LOVELACE b. Feb 3 1776 and Rebecca OLEMAN. A 1998 posting from Gary W. Lovelace says this is the case http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/lovelace/1998-05/0896362101) posting from Jack Lovelace http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/lovelace/2004-09/1095134675) ays essentially the same thing. Jack adds that Mary M. is Mary M. URDOM (I think PURDOM was the last name of Mary's third husband -- I hink her maiden name might have been ASHLEY). -- Finally, is it possible that researchers have mixed up the two ets of Archibald's parents? Perhaps they've mistakenly placed the rchibald (father of Lemuel) with the wrong set of parents? Handwritten ecords from Inez LOVELACE (Lemuel's daughter) make references to uncles brothers of Archibald) from the union of Andrew LOVELACE (b. 1776) and ebecca HOLEMAN (b. 1775). But the Archibald from those parents married ancy Harmon (not Mary M). In the end, perhaps the way to identify the Archibald LOVELACEs born etween 1808-1811 is to look for spouses. Here are all the spouses I've ound for the two Archibald LOVELACEs discussed here. There are several ombinations and permutations of spousal arrangements. Nancy HARMAN ean ERWIN ancy HOLEMAN ary M. ary PURDOM elila A. ella annah WHEELER ary ASHLEY Bottom line, I guess, is how strong is the documentation that connects he two Archibald LOVELACEs with their respective parents? And who were heir respective spouses (or sets of spouses)? Thanks to whomever can figure this out. Jeff Sengstack ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

The Archibald you speak us is my great-great grandfather. My grandfather the son of James Martin Lovelace also was Archibald, he was Archibald Elam Lovelace. My records come from my dad- Dennis Alfred Lovelace, the son of Archibald Elam and his sister Addie. They personally new their grandfather James Martin the son of Archibald. Archibald Lovelace was B 1806. D 1905. M. Nacy A. Holman. He was married three times, Nancy was the mother of all his children. 2nd wife's name Wheeler, 3rd wife Fisher. He was 84, she was 44. Archie & Nancy moved together with Sally & Henry from North Carolina to Mo. in 1838, selling their land on Hunting Creek in N.C. Nancy was killed in a runaway accident returning home from Smithton , Mo. They had gone to purchase their daughter Nancy's wedding clothes. This was before 1868. They had 9 children. David-b. 8/19/1829-Thomas b-4/3/1831-Elam-b-3/28/1833-Elizabeth b-6/23/1835-James Martin-b-4/23/1837-my great-grandfather-Alfred Missouri-b-6/23/1839- Lucy Ann-b8/20/1845-Archibald Levi-b-5/24/1847-Nancy R. -b-3/28/1850 Denise Lovelace Kellenbeck -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Sengstack <jeff@sengstack.com> To: LOVELACE@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, Jul 28, 2010 9:08 pm Subject: [LL] Two Archibald LOVELACEs b. abt. 1809 - numerous discrepancies Hello, I am researching the LOVELACE line and have run into some discrepancies ith Lovelace family trees I've seen posted on Ancestry.com and messages osted here. What I am certain about is that the line I'm researching goes back to emuel M. LOVELACE b. 1837 (twin brother of Manuel LOVELACE) who married usan C. GRUNDY. Where things fall apart is with Lemuel's father, rchibald LOVELACE. An 1850 census (I have a JPG file, but here is a link to the text: ttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/lovelace/1998-08/0903471394) otes that Archibald was married to Mary M. What I don't know, is who re Archibald's parents (I also am not certain of who Mary M. is...but hat's another story). -- Are Archibald's parents Thomas LOVELACE (b. 1772) and Amelia ermela DYSON (b. 1773)?. An extensive tree posted by Tami Bearden http://www.fortunecity.com/millenium/rockbridge/597/bearden/lovelace.htm) ays they are and that Mary M. was Archibald's second wife. -- Are Archibald's parents Andrew LOVELACE b. Feb 3 1776 and Rebecca OLEMAN. A 1998 posting from Gary W. Lovelace says this is the case http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/lovelace/1998-05/0896362101) posting from Jack Lovelace http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/lovelace/2004-09/1095134675) ays essentially the same thing. Jack adds that Mary M. is Mary M. URDOM (I think PURDOM was the last name of Mary's third husband -- I hink her maiden name might have been ASHLEY). -- Finally, is it possible that researchers have mixed up the two ets of Archibald's parents? Perhaps they've mistakenly placed the rchibald (father of Lemuel) with the wrong set of parents? Handwritten ecords from Inez LOVELACE (Lemuel's daughter) make references to uncles brothers of Archibald) from the union of Andrew LOVELACE (b. 1776) and ebecca HOLEMAN (b. 1775). But the Archibald from those parents married ancy Harmon (not Mary M). In the end, perhaps the way to identify the Archibald LOVELACEs born etween 1808-1811 is to look for spouses. Here are all the spouses I've ound for the two Archibald LOVELACEs discussed here. There are several ombinations and permutations of spousal arrangements. Nancy HARMAN ean ERWIN ancy HOLEMAN ary M. ary PURDOM elila A. ella annah WHEELER ary ASHLEY Bottom line, I guess, is how strong is the documentation that connects he two Archibald LOVELACEs with their respective parents? And who were heir respective spouses (or sets of spouses)? Thanks to whomever can figure this out. Jeff Sengstack ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Mornin' Cuzzies, Back in the saddle again....with so much help from the cat crew. Their behavior was such a giveaway......they started staying really close to me. Rather than their usual antics outside doing their thing, they were always close by napping in the house. Oh, yes, I noticed.....I knew something was up. And, of course, you'll hear more outrageous stories abt. Ole Buckley, a Tampico, Mexico, raised American who had a chili gut. I don't know why his tummy didn't attack him for all the salsa, chilis, jalepenos, and hot stuff he continually put in it. His first cuzzie was Wm F. Buckley, Jr., creator of the conservative magazine National Review.....from a grand ole Irish Catholic family who were really late comers to America in the 1870's. His obit is on line with the Houston newspaper HoustonChronicle.com and his name is Charles Buckley that you would type in the box for a search. Know that I am doing well.....the recent widows group think I am doing exceptionally well.....don't know about that. It's definitely not a trip for sissies. o : Have a good one! Buckette

Carolyn,   The family finder test could indeed be useful. Although it is a new test, I've already heard of several 'success stories' from using it.   But first, I must ask what you mean when you say that your husband "matches" several other men. Does he match at 12 markers, or at 25 markers, or at 37 markers (or even 67 markers)?   A 12 marker "match" will not mean very much at all--it only shows that your husband's pre-Ice Age ancestors sprang from the same stock as those other men--it is not at all useful for recent genealogical time frames. Ditto for a 25 marker "match". The only really useful "matches" are the 37 marker ones, and (especially) the 67 marker matches.   If your husband matches any of those men at 37 markers, then you have some solid leads, and an upgrade to 67 markers is definitely warranted!   If you've only tested him to 12 or 25 markers, then you really need to upgrade to at least 37. (Some of my genealogist friends even insist that only the 67 marker test is really worthwhile, however, and won't even touch anyone who has tested to lower levels than that!)   Hope this helps!   Terry W. --- On Thu, 7/29/10, Carolyn McCoy <c2mccoy@gmail.com> wrote: From: Carolyn McCoy <c2mccoy@gmail.com> Subject: [LL] Family Finder on Family Tree DNA To: "Lovelace List" <lovelace@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, July 29, 2010, 3:52 PM Can anyone tell me the advantage of taking part in the Family Finder Test from the Family Tree DNA group?  My husband submitted DNA to the McKay (since there is not a McCoy group) Family DNA study and he matches several other surnames, but no McCoys (or McKays).  Would the Family Finder test help at all? Thanks, Carolyn ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Glad you have the cat crew.  Our pets know more than we do sometimes and are a great balm when needed.  No, not a trip for sissies, but know you can holler and we are there. Bob and Frances from Tomball --- On Thu, 7/29/10, spice3@juno.com <spice3@juno.com> wrote: From: spice3@juno.com <spice3@juno.com> Subject: Re: [LL] Thurs Jul 30, 2010 To: lovelace@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, July 29, 2010, 8:12 AM Mornin' Cuzzies, Back in the saddle again....with so much help from the cat crew.   Their behavior was such a giveaway......they started staying really close to me.   Rather than their usual antics outside doing their thing, they were always close by napping in the house.   Oh, yes, I noticed.....I knew something was up. And, of course, you'll hear more outrageous stories abt. Ole Buckley, a Tampico, Mexico, raised American who had a chili gut.   I don't know why his tummy didn't attack him for all the salsa, chilis, jalepenos, and hot stuff he continually put in it. His first cuzzie was Wm F. Buckley, Jr., creator of the conservative magazine National Review.....from a grand ole Irish Catholic family who were really late comers to America in the 1870's.   His obit is on line with the Houston newspaper HoustonChronicle.com and his name is Charles Buckley that you would type in the box for a search. Know that I am doing well.....the recent widows group think I am doing exceptionally well.....don't know about that.   It's definitely not a trip for sissies.  o : Have a good one! Buckette ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, I am researching the LOVELACE line and have run into some discrepancies with Lovelace family trees I've seen posted on Ancestry.com and messages posted here. What I am certain about is that the line I'm researching goes back to Lemuel M. LOVELACE b. 1837 (twin brother of Manuel LOVELACE) who married Susan C. GRUNDY. Where things fall apart is with Lemuel's father, Archibald LOVELACE. An 1850 census (I have a JPG file, but here is a link to the text: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/lovelace/1998-08/0903471394) notes that Archibald was married to Mary M. What I don't know, is who are Archibald's parents (I also am not certain of who Mary M. is...but that's another story). -- Are Archibald's parents Thomas LOVELACE (b. 1772) and Amelia Permela DYSON (b. 1773)?. An extensive tree posted by Tami Bearden (http://www.fortunecity.com/millenium/rockbridge/597/bearden/lovelace.htm) says they are and that Mary M. was Archibald's second wife. -- Are Archibald's parents Andrew LOVELACE b. Feb 3 1776 and Rebecca HOLEMAN. A 1998 posting from Gary W. Lovelace says this is the case (http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/lovelace/1998-05/0896362101) A posting from Jack Lovelace (http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/lovelace/2004-09/1095134675) says essentially the same thing. Jack adds that Mary M. is Mary M. PURDOM (I think PURDOM was the last name of Mary's third husband -- I think her maiden name might have been ASHLEY). -- Finally, is it possible that researchers have mixed up the two sets of Archibald's parents? Perhaps they've mistakenly placed the Archibald (father of Lemuel) with the wrong set of parents? Handwritten records from Inez LOVELACE (Lemuel's daughter) make references to uncles (brothers of Archibald) from the union of Andrew LOVELACE (b. 1776) and Rebecca HOLEMAN (b. 1775). But the Archibald from those parents married Nancy Harmon (not Mary M). In the end, perhaps the way to identify the Archibald LOVELACEs born between 1808-1811 is to look for spouses. Here are all the spouses I've found for the two Archibald LOVELACEs discussed here. There are several combinations and permutations of spousal arrangements. Nancy HARMAN Jean ERWIN Nancy HOLEMAN Mary M. Mary PURDOM Delila A. Della Hannah WHEELER Mary ASHLEY Bottom line, I guess, is how strong is the documentation that connects the two Archibald LOVELACEs with their respective parents? And who were their respective spouses (or sets of spouses)? Thanks to whomever can figure this out. Jeff Sengstack

>From: M Little <harriettsgrand@gmail.com> >Source: PA-SW-OBITS@rootsweb.com >Subject: [PA-SW-OBITS] Josiah McCarey HANNA, Stanley SIPE, > >In the late evening hours of Wednesday, February 9, 1898, a fire and >explosion occurred at the Union Storage building on Pike and >Thirteenth streets, with numerous fatalities. These were a few of the >victims. > > >from The Pittsburgh Press dated Friday, February 11, 1898 (page 6): > >DEAD <<snip>> >George LOVELESS, 40 years old, married, lived on Division street, >Bellevue, and was a member of Bellevue lodge No. 530, F and A M. His >remains were sent to his home. <<snip>> >The funeral services of George LOVELESS, aged 44 years, will be held >at his late residence on Division street, Bellevue, at three o'clock >tomorrow afternoon. Bellevue lodge No. 530, F & A M, and Col T M >Bayne lodge No. 1008, I O O F, will attend. <<snip>> >from the City of Pittsburgh Death Records: <<snip>> >George LOVELESS, age 40 years, married, clerk, died February 10, 1898, >at Homeopathic Hospital; injured in falling building; son of William >LOVELESS of Wales; born in Wales; living in Bellevue; burial in >Bellevue PA cemetery on February 12, 1898. <<snip>> >The name of George LOVELESS's wife is Sarah with children Ettie, >Gwendolyn, and Ethel. He is most likely the George LOVELESS 1853-1898 >buried in the Quail / Bellevue Cemetery listed on Norm Meinert's >cemetery pages on Rootsweb.

Carolyn , KM here . I received your reply . Not sure of any one else . That is what I have seen . As long as I could drive on the road I spent a lot of time in Greenville ,Ky . Found a distant cousin who was a God's send to the past as she was in her 80's . A retired school teacher , her mother lived to be a 102 yrs old and still sharp when she died . We found my great great great grand father's grave one cold November afternoon . He had a tragic death and his grave was lost for years . His marker was leaning against another maker .His marker was plain and full of information . I wanted to reset it but never had the chance . Thanks to both of you . Katherine 85 now . katherine82@insightbb.com --- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn McCoy" <c2mccoy@gmail.com> To: <lovelace@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [LL] Muhlenberg Co., KY wills >I passed on your thanks. I was grateful, too, to get the information. > -Carolyn > > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 5:12 AM, Katherine Melton > <katherine82@insightbb.com >> wrote: > >> Carolyn, >> Please pass my heart felt thanks to BarbCoons for her wonderful work . >> Can't >> travel much any more . This is such a blessing for documentation . We've >> wondered about many of these people for so long . Bits and peices . Thank >> you for sharing . >> Wish I could find a Jones Kin . Still looking for a great grand moth >> Hall/ >> Jones maiden name in that area . >> sincerely , Katherine Melton >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Carolyn McCoy" <c2mccoy@gmail.com> >> To: "Lovelace List" <lovelace@rootsweb.com> >> Cc: "bncoons" <bncoons@att.net> >> Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 10:33 PM >> Subject: [LL] Muhlenberg Co., KY wills >> >> >> > This came to me from a newly-found cousin, Barb Coons, a descendant of >> > Young's daughter Elizabeth (b. abt 1800 NC, m. John Wesley Mathis) The >> > notes in parentheses are from Barb's distant cousin who sent her this >> > information from Muhlenberg Co. >> > >> > -Carolyn >> > >> > <Muhlenberg County KY Abstracts of Wills and Administrations by Marian >> > G. >> > Hammers. >> > >> > Richard Cash, will, of Muhlenberg County, Kentucky, dated 29 Aug 1823. >> To >> > sons John Cash, Isriah (sic), William Cash, Richard Cash, Jonathan Cash >> > and >> > Sarah Lovelace, daughter Ruth Cash and her son Nelson Cash. The >> > executors: >> > David Summers and John Morgan. Witnesses: Valentine Whitmer and >> > Charles >> > Morgan. Proved Dec County Court 1824. (Dorann's note: Would Sarah >> > Lovelace be the w/o Young Lovelace? Assume so.) >> > >> > John Lovelace, deceased. Appraisal of estate by John Vickers, William >> > Moore >> > and Ralph Vickers. 25 Aug 1826. Approved Dec County Court. Book II. >> > pp. >> > 387-388. >> > >> > John Lovelace, deceased. Sale Bill, Elizabeth Jordan, Administratrix. >> > Approved Dec County Court 1826. Book II. pp 388-389. >> > >> > John Lovelace, deceased. Settlement. Administrator Elizabeth Jordan. >> > Commissioners were Peter Shaver and John Vickers. Approved Nov County >> > Court 1827. Book II. pp. 435-436. >> > >> > Lewis Reno, Will, of Muhlenberg County, KY, dated 19 Nov 1845. To >> > daughter >> > Elizabeth James, to daughter Milly K. Lovelace, to daughter Fanny L. >> Finch >> > and to granddaughters Sally A. Kincheloe, Mary E. Kincheloe, Hannah T. >> > Kincheloe and Clara L. Kincholoe (sic), the children of his deceased >> > daughter Clara Kincheloe. Executors were Samuel James, William Finch >> > and >> > Henderson Lovelace. Witnesses: Alfred M. Jackson and Lewis McCown. >> > Proven >> > Jan County Court 1846. Book III. pp. 76-77. >> > >> > Richard Cash, deceased. Inventory, 18 Dec 1824 by William Martin, >> > Martin >> > Roark, and Valentine Whitmer. John Morgan, executor. Approved Jul >> > County >> > Court 1825. Book II. p. 320 >> > >> > John Standley, Will, of Muhlenberg County, KY, dated 09 Jun 1841. To >> wife >> > Nancy Standley, to have "my place I now live on containing 75 ac >> > patented >> > to >> > John Standley during her life." Mentions "three oldest boys," to Isaac >> > Standley 100 ac of land patented to Farny Standley, to Polly Csh, to >> > John >> > Standley, to Moses Standley, to Mahala Standley, to Nancy Standley, and >> to >> > Joseph Standley "what I left to his mother and at her death is to be >> his." >> > Executor: Barnnihes (sic) Wilkins and Moses Standley. Witnesses: >> > B.E. >> > Oates, Janus Arnett and Janus Arnett, Jr. Proven 17 Jul 1841 Muhl >> > County >> > Court. Book II, p. 236. >> > >> > (Note: there were no Lovelaces nor Cashes in the index for Will Book >> > 4, >> > Muhl Co, 1877-1922.) >> > >> > Muhlenberg County Kentucky Deed Books 1-5 Abstracts 1798-1823 by Brenda >> > Collier Doss. >> > >> > Deed Book 1-2. 1798-1809. p. 116. 02 Aug 1805. >> > Vachel Lovelace sold to Elias Lovelace, Jr., both of Muhlenberg County >> > KY, >> > for 500 pounds, four horses, all my cattle, hogs and other stock, all >> > household and kitchen furniture of every description. All debts, dues >> and >> > demands against others by me. Signed Vachel Lovelace. Wit: C.F. Wing >> > >> > Deed Book 5, p. 12. 05 Aug 1818. >> > Thomas Irvin sold to George Lovelace, both of Muhl Co KY, for $30, 30 >> > ac >> > on >> > Isaac Creek. Signed Thomas Irvin. >> > >> > Deed Book 5, p. 20. 05 Aug 1819. >> > George Lovelace, assignee of David Rhoads, sold to Thomas Irvin, all of >> > Muhl >> > Co KY, for $90, 60 ac on Isaacs Creek. Signed George Lovelace >> > >> > Deed Book 5, p. 156. 13 Nov 1819. >> > George Lovelace sold to Charles Summers, both of Muhl Co KY, for $745, >> 149 >> > ac on Isaacs Creek. Signed George Lovelace and Polly Lovelace. >> Wintesses >> > John Morgan and William Oates. On p. 257, same date, Polly, w/o George >> > Lovelace, relinquished her right of dower. >> > >> > >> > Deed Book 5, p. 272. 26 Nov 1821. >> > John Walston sold to James Phelps, both of Muhl Co KY, for $18.63, 100 >> > bushels of corn, 16 hoggs, 2 beds and furniture, 2 pots, 1 skillet and >> > 50 >> > ac >> > on waters of Isaacs Creek. Adjoining John Hutson and John Cash. Pay >> > James >> > Weir $18.63. Signed John Walston. >> > >> > Deed Book 5, p. 303. 15 Sep 1821. >> > Fereby Edens, Benjamin Rhoades and Sally his wife, Ezekiel Edens, >> > Andrew >> > ONeal & Nancy his wife, Elias Lovelace and Susanna his wife, Elias >> > Edens, >> > Walter Lovelace and Polly his wife, Hannah Edens and James Edens, >> > representatives of James Edens, deceased, sold to Thomas Uzzell for $5, >> > 100 >> > ac in Muhlenberg County KY. Signed: Fereby Edens, Benjamin Rhoades, >> > Sally >> > Rhoades, Ezekiel Edens, Andrew ONeal, Ann ONeal, Elias Lovelace, >> > Susannah >> > Lovelace, Elias Edens, Walter W. Lovelace, Polly Lovelace, Hannah Edens >> > and >> > James Edens. Witnesses: Hector McNeill and Catharine Housman. >> > >> > Deed Book 5, p. 345. 15 Aug 1822 >> > John Cash sold to John Hutson, both of Muhl Co KY, for $46, 23 ac. >> Signed >> > John Cash. Witnesses Sikes Garris and W. Oates. On p. 346 Elizabeth, >> w/o >> > John Cash, relinquished her right of dower. >> > >> > >> > - - - - - >> > >> > Muhlenberg County Kentucky Deed Books 6-10 Abstracts, 1823-1842 by >> > Brenda >> > Collier Doss >> > >> > Deed Book 6, p. 498. 31 Mar 1828. >> > Thomas Downs and Elizabeth his wife, of Daviess County, KY, sold to >> > Elizabeth Lovelace, Daniel Lovelace and Mary Lovelace, heirs of John >> > Lovelace, decd, and Elizabeth Jordan, of Muhl Co KY, for $300, 200 ac >> > on >> > Pond River in Muhlenberg County. Benjamin Worthington corner. Signed >> > Thomas Downs. >> > >> > Deed Book 7, p. 330. 27 Apr 1831. >> > David Campbell sold to Young Lovelace, both of Muhl Co KY, for $50, 5 >> > ac >> > on >> > Jarrels Creek. William Martin line. Signed David Campbell and >> > Margaret >> > Campbell. >> > >> > Deed Book 8, p. 169. 19 Aug 1832. >> > Benjamin Rhoads and Sally his wife, Ezekiel Edens and Polly his wife, >> > Elias >> > Lovelace and Susanna his wife, Walter Lovelace and Polly h is wife, >> > Jeremiah >> > Adams and Hannah his wife, James G. Edens and Mary his wife, Andrew >> > ONeal >> > and Nancy (Ann) his wife, and Elizabeth Cargil, late wife of Elias >> Edens, >> > decd, all of Graves County, KY, sold to Isaiah Cash of Muhl Co KY, for >> > $150, >> > 300 ac on Pond River in Muhl Co KY. Thomas Uzzell corner. Part of 400 >> ac >> > conveyed to the heirs of James Edens, decd by Charles Fox Wing as >> > Commissioner of Muhl Co Circuit Court, 01 Jun 1820. >> > >> > Deed Book 8, p. 468. 27 Jun 1836. >> > Alexandeer H. Lovelace sold to James Rothrock, both of Muhl Co KY, for >> > $1 >> > as >> > security on 2 notes each $115, one-half ac in or adjacent to >> > Greenville. >> > Signed Alexander H. Lovelace. >> > >> > Deed Book 10, p. 37. 18 Aug 1840. >> > Ephraim M. Brank and Mary C. his wife sold to Dabney A. Martin, all of >> > Muhl >> > Co KY, for $120, 3/4 ac adjoining lot where Henderson Lovelace now >> > resides. >> > Signed Ephraim M. Brank and Mary C. Brank. >> > >> > Deed Book 10, p. 232. 29 Jul 1841. >> > Young Lovelace and Anna his wife sold to their sons Alexander H. >> > Lovelace >> > and Jackson Lovelace, all of Muhl Co KY, for love and affection, and >> $500, >> > 380 ac on Elk Pond Creek. Duran Alcock corner. William Martin line. >> 190 >> > ac where I live including farm and buildings to Alexander H. Lovelace >> > and >> > the remaining 190 ac to Jackson Lovelace. Retaining a life estate for >> > me >> > and Ann my wife. Signed Young Lovelace and Ann Lovelace. (p. 234, >> > same >> > date, Ann relinquished her right of dower. (Dorann's note: this was >> > in >> > lieu of a will.) >> > >> > Deed Book 10, p. 267. 04 Sep 1841. >> > Dabney A. Martin bought from Jackson Lovelace, both of Muhl Co KY, for >> > $89.59 and $40.24, all growing crop of tobacco. Signed Jackson >> > Lovelace. >> > Witness E.W. Martin. >> > >> > Deed Book 10, p. 269. 04 Sep 1841. >> > Jackson Lovelace sold to Vachel L. Dillingham, both of Muhl Co KY, for >> > note >> > of $165.76 to James Weir and $1, 50 ac. Conveyed by William Campbell. >> > All >> > growing crop of corn, man's saddle, ladies saddle, 12 split bottom >> chairs, >> > all cupboard ware, all furniture. Signed Jackson Lovelace. Witness >> > Burris >> > E. Pittman and William G. Jones. (Dorann's note: sounds like Jackson >> > was >> > selling out to move!) >> > >> > Muhlenberg County Kentucky Deed Books 11-14 Astracts 1841-1850 by >> > Brenda >> > Collier Doss. >> > >> > Deed Book 11, p. 25. 10 Feb 1842. >> > Benjamin Davis and Elizabeth (late Lovelace) his wife, and Andrew >> > Rickard >> > and Mary Ann (late Lovelace) his wife, both daughters of John Lovelace, >> > sold >> > to John Vickers for $100, 100 acres on Cypress Creek. Patenteted to >> > John >> > Lovelace. Wm. M. Moore and David T. Short, Justices of the Peace. >> > >> > Deed Book 11, p. 110. 20 Aug 1842. >> > Jackson Lovelace sold to James Weir and Edward R. Weir notes. Security >> > Vachel L. Dillingham and Young Lovelace. 50 ac bought of William >> > Campbell, >> > all tobacco, corn crops. >> > >> > Deed Book 11, p. 262. 23 Mar 1843. >> > Alexander H. Lovelace and Milly K. his wife sold to Edward Kingsley for >> > $700, a lot in Greenville. Purchased from James Rothrock. Milly K. >> > Lovelace relinquished her right of dower. >> > >> > Deed Book 11, p. 314. 23 Aug 1842. >> > Jackson Lovelace sold to Alexander H. Lovelace for $273.01, 308 acres >> > on >> > Elk >> > Pond Creek. Duran Alcock corner. William Martin line. >> > >> > Deed Book 11, p. 435. No date (fall of 1843) >> > Thomas Terry appointed attorney for Alexander H. Lovelace, Jackson >> > Lovelace, >> > Fielding Foster and Diliah (sic) his wife, William W. Martin and Mary >> > Ann >> > his wife, John W. Mathis and Elizabeth his wife, Elisha Hancock and >> Susan >> > his wife and Sanford Fuller, heirs of Young Lovelace. Witnesses >> > Barnett >> > Eades and James Terry. >> > >> > Deed Book 11, p. 470. 25 Dec 1843. >> > Fielding Foster and Deliah his wife, Elisha Hancock and Susannah his >> wife, >> > John W. Mathis and Elizabeth his wif, Jackson Lovelace, Alexander H. >> > Lovelace and Sanford Fuller, heirs of Young Lovelace, deceased, sold to >> > William W. Martin for $35, land on Jarrels Creek. Signed Thomas Terry, >> > Atny >> > in Fact. >> > >> > Deed Book 11, p. 510. 25 Dec 1843. >> > (The above heirs of Young Lovelace plus William W. Martin and Mary his >> > wife >> > sold 65 acres on Jarrel Creek. $15. to Moses M. Rice.) >> > >> > Deed Book 13, p. 282. 11 Feb 1848. >> > William J. Lovelace sold to Henry Lucas, for notes, personal property. >> > Estate of Russell McRery and Ezekiel Fleming. Daniel Lindsley, >> > administrator of James H. Lindsley, decd. William Mesick. Witness >> > John >> > G. >> > Gooch. >> > >> > Above are most of the Lovelace deeds. I omitted some either because >> > they >> > were duplicates (so far as information is concerned) or were not >> relevant. >> > >> > Muhlenberg County Kentucky Order Book 5, p. 18, 25 Jul 1842. >> > Thomas Terry was appointed administrator of the estate of Young >> > Lovelace, >> > deceased, with James Rothrock and William W. Martin his security. Bond >> > $1,200. William Martin, Thomas Martin, Barnet Eades and Samuel Wilkins >> > were >> > appointed appraisers of estate.> >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Iva Lingerfelt was previously married to George N. Lovelace Jr George Jr. < George Sr. < William Noah < John Loveace and Cynthia Lovelace ..... John < ?? ..... Cynthia < Nathaniel < Asa < Barton < Benjamin < ? Bob Stewart ============================================ Newspaper: Shelby Star - July 27, 2010 Iva Beam IVA BEAM DIED JULY 25, 2010 KINGS MOUNTAIN - Iva Lingerfelt Beam, 77, of 113 Country Grove Road, passed away, July 25, 2010 at White Oak Manor, She was born in York County, S.C., to the late John Frank and Lucrettie Summers Lingerfelt. She was also preceded in death by brothers, Johnny Lingerfelt, Calvin Lingerfelt, Carl Lingerfelt, Cline Lingerfelt, Lester Lonnie Lingerfelt; sisters, Ruby Dixon, Aileen Proctor, Betty Roper, and Opal Carroll. She was a member of St. Matthew's Lutheran Church, Kings Mtn. where she served as Sunday School Teacher. Former employee of Maner Insurance Agency, serving for 12 years, and retired as a Teachers Assistant with Kings Mountain District Schools after 17 years of service. She was a wonderful and devoted wife, mother, and grandmother who loved her family very much. She was a creative lady who loved working with children, special projects, and hosting special gatherings at her home. She is survived, by her husband of 43 years, John Thomas "Tom" Beam, her son, Michael Beam and wife Kathy, of Gastonia, daughters, Jane Lovelace Redmond and husband Jeff, of Kingsport, Tenn, Lynn Lovelace Brown and husband Wayne, of Shelby; 5 Grandchildren, Lee Beam and wife Madeline, Amy Blanton and husband Chad, Caroline Redmond, Casey Lockler and husband Joseph, and Brady Goforth and wife Anita, special niece, Jackie Dixon Hardin and 7 Great Grandchildren. Visitation: The family will receive friends, July 28, immediately following the service, St. Matthew's Lutheran Church Fellowship Hall Memorial Service: Wednesday, July 28, 2 p.m., St. Matthew's Lutheran Church Officiated by: The Rev. Ronnie Church Interment: Grover Cemetery, Grover, North Carolina Memorials: St. Matthew's Lutheran Church, 201 N. Piedmont Ave, Kings Mountain, NC or Hospice of Cleveland County, 951 Wendover Heights Drive, Shelby, NC 28150 Funeral home: Harris Funeral Home is serving the family. Online condolences: www.harrisfunerals.com

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All, The Natrional Genealogical Society has updated the website for the national meeting in Charleston in May 2011. http://www.ngsgenealogy.org/cs/conference_info If you click on one of the links for the conference flyer, you'll see a little more information about hotels and such. Reservations for hotels are now open, so if you're planning to come to Charleston for the conference, or if you are interested, please check it out. As I said earlier in the year,. I'll be attending the conference and would love to meet as many of you as possible. As time gets closer, I'll post more information. Peace, Part of the Tree, Greg No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3029 - Release Date: 07/26/10 02:36:00