Published in The Greenville News on March 24, 2010 Ruth Lovelace Ruth Marion [Marks] Lovelace, 83, died from congestive heart failure at the hospital in Columbia, SC on March 22, 2010. Visitation will be from 2:30 to 3:30 PM Friday, at Duckett-Robinson Funeral Home, 108 Cross Creek Road, Central, SC. A graveside funeral service will be held at 4 PM, Friday at Memory Gardens, 586 Issaqueena Trail, Clemson, SC. In lieu of flowers, the family requests that memorial donations be made to the Lovelace Scholarship Fund located with the Southern Wesleyan University at 907 Wesleyan Drive, Central, SC 29630-1020 or to the American Heart Association . Condolences may be expressed and a full obituary may be viewed at www.robinsonfuneralhomes.com. ================================================================ From: Robinson Funeral Home ~ Robinson Memorial Gardens ~ Duckett-Robinson Funeral Home -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ruth Marion Lovelace (July 5, 1926 - March 22, 2010) Ruth Marion Lovelace Central, SC Ruth Marion [Marks] Lovelace, 83, died from congestive heart failure at the hospital in Columbia, SC on March 22, 2010. Visitation will be from 2:30 to 3:30 PM Friday, at Duckett-Robinson Funeral Home, 108 Cross Creek Road, Central, SC. A graveside funeral service will be held at 4 PM, Friday at Memory Gardens, 586 Issaqueena Trail, Clemson, SC. Ms. Lovelace was born in Iowa and she was the only child of the late Rev. Henry Marks who was a Presbyterian Minister and her mother, Ms. Helen Marks. Ms. Lovelace was an education graduate of Cortland University in New York. Her teaching career ran for 30 years and she taught in New York, Ohio, Kansas, and South Carolina. Her last 16 years were with the Pickens County School District. Surviving are her husband, Mr. Arthur Lovelace, of 63 years; five children, Mr. Terry Lovelace, Dr. Helen Clark, Ms. Jeanie Hula, Ms. Sandra Campbell, and Ms. Sharon Lovelace: eleven grandchildren: and three great-grandchildren. Ruth Lovelace also has a close cousin, Ed Marks, who was like a brother to her along with other cousins and relatives who live in Iowa. In lieu of flowers, the family requests that memorial donations be made to the Lovelace Scholarship Fund located with the Southern Wesleyan University at 907 Wesleyan Drive, Central, SC 29630-1020 or to the American Heart Association. Condolences may be expressed in person or online at www.robinsonfuneralhomes.com.

I have returned to the list after long absence. Am from the branch of Benjamin Loveless who came to Edgefield, S.C. sometime in the 1700s, with no known ancestors. (He's in the 1790 Federal Census.) The line continues with Thomas Henry Loveless, (1797), Benjamin Franklin Lovelace(1833), My father was Benjamin Franklin Lovelace Jr, born in Edgefield Feb 27, 1876 and died In Baltimore on APRIL 23, 1923. My son David has throughly researched all the connections here. I am Most interested in Colonel Francis Lovelace, Colonial Governor of New York, about whom I have written one short book called The Governor and Two Islands, which can be had for only $10.95 at Lulu.com or Amazon. We would love to find a connection to this extraordinary man, but his not having been married, it would be through an illegitimate offspring, or from a sibling. Glad to be back on the list, Clarence Shriver Lovelace, nick-named Butsy (1921)

Published in The Sun News from August 12 to August 13, 2010 Thomas Edward Lovelace, age 55 of Brownsway Shortcut Road, died Tuesday, August 10, 2010, at Conway Medical Center. Mr. Lovelace was a native of Beckley, WV, a son of the late Ora Lee and Virginia Castless Lovelace. He was director of engineering and maintenance for the Conway Medical Center, a member of the Socastee Baptist Church, and was an avid hunter and fisherman. Survivors are his wife, Carla Vance Lovelace; two sons; Sean M. Corder and wife Lora of Myrtle Beach, Brett A. Corder and wife Kimberly of Summerville; two brothers, Charles Lovelace of Round-O, SC, and James Lovelace of Beckley, WV; four sisters, Mae Harvey of Tampa, FL, Barbara Boyd of Clifton, VA, Carol "Kay" Arthur of Chapin, SC, and Luvina Sue Cantrell of Elkhorn, KY; two grandchildren, Cannon and Sutton Corder of Summerville. He is also survived by many nieces and nephews. In addition to his parents, Tom was predeceased by brothers Bill, Harold, Leroy and Paul Lovelace, and by one sister, Betty Lockley. Funeral services will be held Saturday, August 14, 2010 at 2PM in the Socastee Baptist Church. Officating will be Rev. Lynn Gardner. Interment will follow in the Hillcrest Cemetery. The family will receive friends from 6:00 PM to 8:00 PM Friday at Goldfinch Funeral Home, Conway Chapel. Memorials may be made to the American Heart Association , 1113 44th Ave. North, Myrtle Beach, SC 29577. Condolences may be made to: www.goldfinchfuneralhome.com Goldfinch Funeral Home, Conway Chapel is in charge of the arrangements.

Mornin' Cuzzies, Unfortunately, no one can think abt. anything else except the heat.....and the 110 heat index we have every day around here. You have to get your knittin' tended to by 10 am in the morning to keep from getting scalded, and just hope you don't have to go out again. Unfortunately, I have to be somewhere abt. l:30 today....when there are few out then. Empty malls, somewhat the streets, etc. And, most of the chulins start school on Monday. We just live in great anticipation as August is more than half over. Everyone says it's hotter now than it's ever been and I don't know why that is. o : In the meantime I'm making plans to floor the condo I'm going to move into in San Antonio and open up the kitchen to the rest of the house, which is going to be no easy matter. I have a great contractor down there which helps. But, doing it from here is not going to be the easiest thing I ever did. Many, many decisions along w/ a whole passle of others......no rest for the wicked! o : Also, I have my guys out looking for a car.....was trying to buy one the last year or so but sorta got side-tracked. I drive used Lincoln town cars.....don't ask me why. Just ole timey, ole school. Lincoln has made their last town car this year. Those that have them are hanging on to them. ) : Busy, busy. Will be more than relieved when the weather lightens up. The heat really inhibits one's normal get-along. You have a good one! Buckette

Check the Probate records in the County Courthouse where the land is located and you should be able to find when it was sold and to whom it was sold if it was indeed sold. I assume the land was in Cook County, Texas where your great grandfather was listed on the 1887 tax rolls. In some states you can reserve the mineral rights when a tract of land is sold. Ann Lusk > I inherited mineral rights to the following section from my grandfather: > > The South Third of the Northwest Quarter (S 1/3 of NW/4) of Section 4, > Township 7N, Range 1E and containing 53.33 arcres, more or less. (This > is the Canadian Township.) > > Since my grandfather had a brother and a sister, I assume my > great-grandfather had the entire NW/4. > > > My great-grandfather, George Talbert, was listed on the 1887 tax rolls > in Cooke County, Texas. > My great-grandmother's bible has my grandfather, who was born in 1889, > as being born in Indian Territory. (But I can not prove it.) > My grandparents were living on the property in the 1910 census. In 1923 > they were in California to stay. Between 1910 and 1923 they moved > around a lot (Colorado, California, Oklahoma) so I cannot tell you when > they sold out. > > -- > Jack D. Lovelace > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Riverside County, California - interesting your family went to the same county from Oklahoma... my home town. -----Original Message----- From: lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jack D. Lovelace Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 12:47 PM To: lovelace@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LL] Question for Jack I had the same problem when I responded to you. My grandmother, Julia Frances (Hartless) Lovelace was in Canadian Township, Cleveland County, Oklahoma for the 1900 census. My uncle George Talbert, and my grandfather Samuel were living at home. Julia was in Murray County on the 1910 census. She died in 1919 in Blythe, Riverside County, California. My grandparents, Samuel and Dovie, had twin daughters who were born (and later died) in McClain County in 1909. On the 1910 census they were found in Township No. 09 South, Range No. 01 East (northeast of Red River) in Cleveland County. This is where my uncle William was born in 1912. In 1913, my aunt Virginia was born in Pueblo, Pueblo County, Colorado. After my father was born in Noble in 1914, they moved to California, where they are found on the 1920 census in Palo Verde Township, Riverside County, California. By 1922 they were back in Oklahoma, where my aunt Thelma was born in Noble. In 1923 they returned to California to stay. My aunt Rose was married in 1898 (I do not know where as I have not been able to locate a marriage record for her, but it was probably in the Territory) and her oldest daughter was born in Noble in 1899. After being listed on his mother's census in 1900, I cannot find my uncle George Talbert until he takes up semi-permanent residence in Brentwood, Contra Costa County, California in 1923. My best guess as to when Julia sold the homestead is between 1900 and 1909. If my grandfather every talked about why and when the property was sold, it was before I was old enough to remember it. After my grandmother's death, he never talked about his childhood life. -- Jack D. Lovelace ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I had the same problem when I responded to you. My grandmother, Julia Frances (Hartless) Lovelace was in Canadian Township, Cleveland County, Oklahoma for the 1900 census. My uncle George Talbert, and my grandfather Samuel were living at home. Julia was in Murray County on the 1910 census. She died in 1919 in Blythe, Riverside County, California. My grandparents, Samuel and Dovie, had twin daughters who were born (and later died) in McClain County in 1909. On the 1910 census they were found in Township No. 09 South, Range No. 01 East (northeast of Red River) in Cleveland County. This is where my uncle William was born in 1912. In 1913, my aunt Virginia was born in Pueblo, Pueblo County, Colorado. After my father was born in Noble in 1914, they moved to California, where they are found on the 1920 census in Palo Verde Township, Riverside County, California. By 1922 they were back in Oklahoma, where my aunt Thelma was born in Noble. In 1923 they returned to California to stay. My aunt Rose was married in 1898 (I do not know where as I have not been able to locate a marriage record for her, but it was probably in the Territory) and her oldest daughter was born in Noble in 1899. After being listed on his mother's census in 1900, I cannot find my uncle George Talbert until he takes up semi-permanent residence in Brentwood, Contra Costa County, California in 1923. My best guess as to when Julia sold the homestead is between 1900 and 1909. If my grandfather every talked about why and when the property was sold, it was before I was old enough to remember it. After my grandmother's death, he never talked about his childhood life. -- Jack D. Lovelace

Sent this once and it came back "rejected". Anyone else having that happen? Hi again, I show that your Dad was born here (Noble, OK) in 1914.  Is that what you have?  That puts us a little closer to when they would have left here.  Have you looked at the 1920 census? I'm assuming they weren't here then.  Is that right? Thanks again, Lou Ann

Many thanks, Jack, This was exactly what I needed. I've got the land pinpointed on the section map that I have. This was part of the last 6 1/2 miles of Cleveland County that opened in a run in 1891. It was Pottowatomie Indian land. All of the Indians had been alloted 160 acres and what was left became the rest of Cleveland County. Like I said earlier, my great grandparents (Loveless) were about 4 miles west of yours and my other great grandparents (dau married Ed Loveless) lived 2 west and 2 back north of yours. Small world. If your folks were anywhere near that area in 1889 it was still Indian Territory so your grandfather could certainly have been born in Indian Territory. Lou Ann

Lou Ann I inherited mineral rights to the following section from my grandfather: The South Third of the Northwest Quarter (S 1/3 of NW/4) of Section 4, Township 7N, Range 1E and containing 53.33 arcres, more or less. (This is the Canadian Township.) Since my grandfather had a brother and a sister, I assume my great-grandfather had the entire NW/4. My great-grandfather, George Talbert, was listed on the 1887 tax rolls in Cooke County, Texas. My great-grandmother's bible has my grandfather, who was born in 1889, as being born in Indian Territory. (But I can not prove it.) My grandparents were living on the property in the 1910 census. In 1923 they were in California to stay. Between 1910 and 1923 they moved around a lot (Colorado, California, Oklahoma) so I cannot tell you when they sold out. -- Jack D. Lovelace

Mornin' Cuzzies, Just lookin' for anything to break the constant 110 heat index around here, and we managed to yesterday w/ some good afternoon rains to cool us off a bit. It snarled afternoon 'going home' traffic pretty good, but I don't think anyone minded. And, we were watching a tropical depression hugging the coast in the Gulf which was coming west. But, it looks like that has snuggled into the New Orleans area which will stop the westward movement somewhat. Da Kid is on Lake Travis in the Austin area for a swan song to summer w/ a bunch of children. Says the lake water is insufferably hot and not fun to swim in. School starts around here on Monday. Off to do many thingees.....paper! I've never gone thru so much paper in my whole life! Have a good one! Buckette

In a message dated 8/14/10 3:03:06 PM, greglovelace@comcast.net writes: > > > I found a family record on Ancestry.com of a William Alfred Hopper, > b. c1874 in Murray, Georgia married to Lucy Etta Lovelady, b. 1884 in > Beauford, Ark.  They are on the 1910 census of Barren, Baxter Co., > Ark.  The 1930 census has him listed as Alfred W. Hopper, b Ark. > This is probably him, although I think he was born in Rabun Co because that's where the rest of his brothers and sisters are shown born, except the one born after him who does show born and died in Murray Co. I suspect Lovelady is more correct than Lovelace and some of this family did move west, the one I'm working on in particular came to OK. It wouldn't surprise me to find others in AR. I think researchers (and census records) just have some places mixed up. You know how that goes. But, I'm not going to give more time to trying to find another Lovelace. There were Loveladys in that area of GA and that makes more sense. Lou Ann

Mornin' Cuzzies, Mark it down on your calendar....we are half-way thru August which means there may be light at the end of the tunnel for this heat. Texas has heat advisories out everywhere.....expected heat index all week is up to 110. Yikes! o : Ah'd sho hate to be some high school football coach having to carry my team thru practices in this stuff. Da Kid gonna go watch some Texas Longhorn practice over in Austin this week.....where they practice w/ fine water mist spraying constantly on the sidelines for the players. Darndest thing you ever saw! And, you know, during the hottest part of the day, our street has these fools who are way up in years walking, jogging, or riding a bike. Just don't make real good sense! o : We're gonna find one of them prone out there one of these days.... Stay in the shade, folks, and drink plenty water! ( : Have a good one! Buckette

Lou Ann,   I may have mentioned this before, but one of James' descendants with whom I spoke back in the 1980s (deceased now), who knew and told me a ton of priceless info on the family, said that durign the War, James had "refugeed" (she pronounced it as "REFageed") back to South Carolina for a while (she didn't say how long). I presume that reference to "South Carolina" probably meant Pickens County, where James and siblings had lived prior to moving to Georgia. As you know, Pickens Co. and the location where the Lovelaces (and his in-laws, the Nicholsons) lived was right along the Chattooga River, which is the state line with Rabun County and Georgia.   I can document James' whereabouts from about 1832 onwards, as follows:   1832--Deed, Rabun County from Henry Henson (his step-father). 1840--U.S. Federal Census, Rabun County. 1846--Birth of daughter Genetta in South Carolina (per several censuses). 1848--Birth of daughter Martha (my ancestor) in SC (per several censuses). 1849--Deed from estate of his brother Barton, Cherokee Co. Ga. 1850--U.S. Federal Census, Cherokee County, Ga. 1851--Mentioned as husband of Sarah Nicholson Loveless in lawsuit over her later father's estate in Pickens County, South Carolina. 1860--U.S. Federal Census, Pickens County, Ga. (formerly Cherokee County). 1861 thru 1863--enlisted and served as private (later elected Captain) of Co.B, 23rd Regt. Ga. Vol. Infantry, Pickens County, Georgia ("Tate Guards"). 1863--While stationed at Yorktown, Va., had to resign his commission as captain due to "old age and rheumatism". 1867--His estate was inventoried and administered by his sons Henry Henson Loveless and Evan Jackson Loveless, in Cobb County, Georgia [He had lived in Smyrna, near the old "Smyrna Campground," for about 2--3 years prior to his death, which according to cousin Dixie Thielet of Pittsburgh, Pa., happened while on a trip to Knoxville, TN. James had intervened in a quarrel involving a friend, and received a fatal wound (either shot or stabbed)].   I've not seen or heard of any other Lovelxxxes in Rabun Co., so this is news to me also. Since James apparently kept in contact with that area throughout most of his life, it would not surprise me to find other relatives there in the 1870s (shortly after James' death).   Hope this helps.   Terry   --- On Sat, 8/14/10, Brondak@aol.com <Brondak@aol.com> wrote: From: Brondak@aol.com <Brondak@aol.com> Subject: [LL] Lucy Lovelace - Rabun Co GA To: lovelace@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, August 14, 2010, 9:19 AM Hey Cuzzies: I have found another Lucy Lovelace in Rabun Co GA and don't know who she is.   She supposedly was born in Rabun Co ca 1875 and she married William Alford Hopper also born ca 1875.   I have no further info.   Does anyone out there have access to 1870 census records to check and she if there was a Lovelace family back in Rabun Co in 1870?   GA Barton's sibs went through there, but much earlier than that and I don't think any went back, but wouldn't swear to anything. Many thanks Lou Ann ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 8/14/10 8:35:17 AM, liowke@att.net writes: > Lou Ann, > > I went on ancestry.com and the only Lovelace in Rabun Co. was James back > in > 1840. > > Lisa > Yep, again, that's what I thought. Some of these families back in OK probably aren't going to be happy with me. I keep finding things that poke holes in the info they have. Mostly their oral traditions. But we know how that goes, don't we. Lou Ann

In a message dated 8/14/10 1:54:22 PM, lovelacejackd@verizon.net writes: > The only Lovelace to appear in Rabun Co GA is James, who appears in 1840. > Yep. That's what I've always thought. This is getting curiouser and curiouser. thanks, Jack. Lou Ann

In a message dated 8/14/10 3:03:06 PM, greglovelace@comcast.net writes: > > Where did you find your info on Lucy? > > Those Hoppers came to OK for after the 1889 Land Run (or maybe for the run - I'll have to check). Lucy is in their family info. They aren't black. Lou Ann

At 09:19 AM 8/14/2010, Brondak@aol.com wrote: >I have found another Lucy Lovelace in Rabun Co GA and don't know who >she is. She supposedly was born in Rabun Co ca 1875 and she >married William Alford Hopper also born ca 1875. I have no further info. Lou Ann, I found a family record on Ancestry.com of a William Alfred Hopper, b. c1874 in Murray, Georgia married to Lucy Etta Lovelady, b. 1884 in Beauford, Ark. They are on the 1910 census of Barren, Baxter Co., Ark. The 1930 census has him listed as Alfred W. Hopper, b Ark. On WorldConnect, I did find William Alford Hopper married to Lucy Lovelace, but no further info on Lucy. This record gives the parents of William as Alexander Lafayette Hopper and Lydia Ann Thomas. The family record I found on Ancestry lists the same parents. This family record also has a link to William Alfred Hooper's WWI dradft registration card. It shows his wife as Alice Ann Hooper and lists him as black. This just confuses things even more! This goes to show that family records can sometimes be passing on misleading information. I don't find any information on a Lucy Lovelace (Lucy, Lucinda, Lucillie; Lovelace, Loveless, or any phonetic or soundex equivalent) b. 1875 in Georgia that appears to fit. Where did you find your info on Lucy? Peace, Part of the Tree, Greg

Mornin' Cuzzies, Just checked the radar.....nada in the Gulf or coming in. I just can't believe it....wasn't this supposed to be the wildest hurricane season?! And, the water out there is so hot! Well, I said after the last one and no air conditioning for 2 weeks that I would not spend another summer in Houston.....well, guess what! As I look around, I believe I'm still here, huh. Dumb cat crew.....they are all languishing all over the outside..... soaking up the heat and smiling. Who said cats had good sense?! And, it isn't gonna matter that I don't tell Ole Buckley stories 'cause I haven't mentioned him for a year.....and y'all didn't even catch on to that. But, I will tell you.....for those of you who believe in such thingees.....Da Kid said he'd dreamed that after the funeral that Ole Buckley came to him and told him he was alive. And, I told Da Kid "see there." Ole Buckley doesn't come to me and tell me that 'cause he knows I know. Off to do tons of thingees.....y'all have a good one! ( : Buckette

The only Lovelace to appear in Rabun Co GA is James, who appears in 1840. Brondak@aol.com wrote: > Hey Cuzzies: > I have found another Lucy Lovelace in Rabun Co GA and don't know who she > is. She supposedly > was born in Rabun Co ca 1875 and she married William Alford Hopper also > born ca 1875. I have > no further info. Does anyone out there have access to 1870 census records > to check and she > if there was a Lovelace family back in Rabun Co in 1870? GA Barton's sibs > went through there, > but much earlier than that and I don't think any went back, but wouldn't > swear to anything. > Many thanks > Lou Ann > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- Jack D. Lovelace