Indeed, you are probably right... but I was laughing when I read it! > Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 10:49:48 -0400 > To: lovelace@rootsweb.com > From: greglovelace@comcast.net > Subject: Re: [LL] [PML] Another Hanford (King's Co., CA) Lovelace story, Dec 1896 > > HAHAHA! > > I don't think he actually went into the pit of the outhouse/water > closet.... I think he was a skinny kid who could squeeze through a > crack in the door and find a place where he could stash the mail and > read it without fear of detection. But I have to admit it *does* > sound that way! > > Peace, > Part of the Tree, > Greg > > > At 10:14 AM 9/1/2010, S B wrote: > > >Just got around to reading the emails... do I read correctly that > >Welborn wriggled himself into the hole of a LOO? (water closet?) to > >read through the letters? And what poor soul was required to > >retrieve the left over mail? > > > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 15:31:02 -0400 > > > To: lovelace@rootsweb.com > > > From: greglovelace@comcast.net > > > Subject: [LL] [PML] Another Hanford (King's Co., CA) Lovelace > > story, Dec 1896 > > > > > > > > > [Greg's note: The T. Lovelace listed in the newspaper story below is > > > probably Thomas J. Lovelace, older brother of the twins Lemuel and > > > Manuel Lovelace, who we recently were discussing. They are all sons > > > of Archibald. I checked the 1900 census for Hanford, and Thomas J. > > > was listed there, with the occupation of "keeper cigars and tobacco", > > > which I assume to mean he was a shopkeeper in a tobacco shop, which > > > would fit in the story below. We're beginning to know a lot about > > > this family!] > > > > > > > > > >From: Dee Sardoc <deesar@frontiernet.net> > > > >Source: NORCAL@rootsweb.com > > > >Subject: [NORCAL] Hanford, Kings Co., CA - 11 December 1896 > > > > > > > >Hanford Journal > > > >Hanford, Kings Co., California > > > >Friday, 11 DECEMBER 1896 > > > >********************************** > > > > > > > >HELD TO ANSWER -- > > > >Hugh WELBORN Will be Tried in the U.S. Court at Los Angeles -- > > > >On a Charge of Robbing the Postoffice at Hanford -- > > > >Gist of the Evidence Introduced at the Examination -- > > > > > > > >The examination of Hugh WELBORN, the Hanford boy accused of stealing > > > >letters from the Hanford postoffice, was tried before U.S. Court > > > >Commissioner PRINCE at Fresno last Wednesday. > > > > > > > >There were present from Hanford: > > > >Jap WELBORN and his wife (parents of Hugh), and his little > > brother and sister > > > >Postmaster TANDY > > > >T. LOVELACE, of the Postoffice store > > > >Constable GOODRICH > > > > > > > >A Fresno lawyer represented the defendant, while Commissioner > > > >PRINCE, with a view to obtaining the facts relating to the guilt of > > > >the prisoner, asked questions. U.S. Deputy Marshal Bart ALFORD had > > > >charge of young WELBORN. > > > > > > > >The testimony of Messrs. LOVELACE, TANDY & GOODRICH was taken. The > > > >postmaster testified that mail had been missing from the office for > > > >a year and he had suspected WELBORN of the deeds, because he was > > > >hanging around about the front of the office a good deal, sometimes > > > >very early in the morning and again late at night; also how on Dec. > > > >2d, when notified by Mr. LOVELACE of the fact that young WELBORN had > > > >been seen to open a box and insert his hand therein, he ran after > > > >WELBORN and took from him a letter addressed to J. Cooper LEGGITT. > > > >The letter was offered in evidence and was the only exhibit made. > > > > > > > >Mr. LOVELACE, who conducts the store in the front part of the > > > >postoffice, told how on Dec. 2d, he saw young WELBORN enter the > > > >postoffice and go to the row of boxes on the south side of the > > > >office. He (LOVELACE) stooped down behind his counter to make the > > > >boy think he was busy at some work under the counter, but he kept > > > >his eye on the boy, whom he suspected of stealing letters. He saw > > > >young WELBORN look carefully about and then put his hand into a box, > > > >unlock it apparently from the inside and then insert his right arm > > > >clear up to the elbow. When young WELBORN withdrew his hand there > > > >was a letter in it, which letter he thrust into the left breast of > > > >his coat and then walked rapidly out of the postoffice. As soon as > > > >the boy as gone, Mr. LOVELACE went to the box into which the boy had > > > >inserted his arm and the door of which was half open. Mr. LOVELACE > > > >inserted his arm into the same box and called to Mr. TANDY, to see > > > >whose box it was. It was box 90, rented to J.C. LEGGITT, to > > > >whom the letter found on WELBORN was addressed. > > > > > > > >Constable GOODRICH told of the arrest of the prisoner and the > > > >finding of a large number of letters, addressed to different parties > > > >in Hanford, in a water closet in the rear of the vacant lots just > > > >east of the Opera House. Young WELBORN who is quite thin, could > > > >wiggle himself down through the hole in the closet into the vault > > > >beneath, where, secure from detection, he could open letters and > > > >take from them anything of value. > > > > > > > >The testimony was all in at noon, and at the afternoon session > > > >Commissioner PRINCE held young WELBORN to answer before the U.S. > > > >Court at Los Angeles. The trial of the defendant is likely to come > > > >off within a month and the witnesses at the examination will also > > > >have to go to Los Angeles to testify. Young WELBORN remains in > > > >charge of Deputy U.S. Marshal ALFORD and will be taken to Los > > > >Angeles later for trial. > > > >------------------------------------------------------ > > > >Transcribed by Dee Sardoch > > > >To see more old newspapers, visit http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/ > > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3050 - Release Date: > > 08/04/10 00:45:00 > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3106 - Release Date: > >09/01/10 02:34:00 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3106 - Release Date: 09/01/10 02:34:00 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

HAHAHA! I don't think he actually went into the pit of the outhouse/water closet.... I think he was a skinny kid who could squeeze through a crack in the door and find a place where he could stash the mail and read it without fear of detection. But I have to admit it *does* sound that way! Peace, Part of the Tree, Greg At 10:14 AM 9/1/2010, S B wrote: >Just got around to reading the emails... do I read correctly that >Welborn wriggled himself into the hole of a LOO? (water closet?) to >read through the letters? And what poor soul was required to >retrieve the left over mail? > > > > > Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 15:31:02 -0400 > > To: lovelace@rootsweb.com > > From: greglovelace@comcast.net > > Subject: [LL] [PML] Another Hanford (King's Co., CA) Lovelace > story, Dec 1896 > > > > > > [Greg's note: The T. Lovelace listed in the newspaper story below is > > probably Thomas J. Lovelace, older brother of the twins Lemuel and > > Manuel Lovelace, who we recently were discussing. They are all sons > > of Archibald. I checked the 1900 census for Hanford, and Thomas J. > > was listed there, with the occupation of "keeper cigars and tobacco", > > which I assume to mean he was a shopkeeper in a tobacco shop, which > > would fit in the story below. We're beginning to know a lot about > > this family!] > > > > > > >From: Dee Sardoc <deesar@frontiernet.net> > > >Source: NORCAL@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: [NORCAL] Hanford, Kings Co., CA - 11 December 1896 > > > > > >Hanford Journal > > >Hanford, Kings Co., California > > >Friday, 11 DECEMBER 1896 > > >********************************** > > > > > >HELD TO ANSWER -- > > >Hugh WELBORN Will be Tried in the U.S. Court at Los Angeles -- > > >On a Charge of Robbing the Postoffice at Hanford -- > > >Gist of the Evidence Introduced at the Examination -- > > > > > >The examination of Hugh WELBORN, the Hanford boy accused of stealing > > >letters from the Hanford postoffice, was tried before U.S. Court > > >Commissioner PRINCE at Fresno last Wednesday. > > > > > >There were present from Hanford: > > >Jap WELBORN and his wife (parents of Hugh), and his little > brother and sister > > >Postmaster TANDY > > >T. LOVELACE, of the Postoffice store > > >Constable GOODRICH > > > > > >A Fresno lawyer represented the defendant, while Commissioner > > >PRINCE, with a view to obtaining the facts relating to the guilt of > > >the prisoner, asked questions. U.S. Deputy Marshal Bart ALFORD had > > >charge of young WELBORN. > > > > > >The testimony of Messrs. LOVELACE, TANDY & GOODRICH was taken. The > > >postmaster testified that mail had been missing from the office for > > >a year and he had suspected WELBORN of the deeds, because he was > > >hanging around about the front of the office a good deal, sometimes > > >very early in the morning and again late at night; also how on Dec. > > >2d, when notified by Mr. LOVELACE of the fact that young WELBORN had > > >been seen to open a box and insert his hand therein, he ran after > > >WELBORN and took from him a letter addressed to J. Cooper LEGGITT. > > >The letter was offered in evidence and was the only exhibit made. > > > > > >Mr. LOVELACE, who conducts the store in the front part of the > > >postoffice, told how on Dec. 2d, he saw young WELBORN enter the > > >postoffice and go to the row of boxes on the south side of the > > >office. He (LOVELACE) stooped down behind his counter to make the > > >boy think he was busy at some work under the counter, but he kept > > >his eye on the boy, whom he suspected of stealing letters. He saw > > >young WELBORN look carefully about and then put his hand into a box, > > >unlock it apparently from the inside and then insert his right arm > > >clear up to the elbow. When young WELBORN withdrew his hand there > > >was a letter in it, which letter he thrust into the left breast of > > >his coat and then walked rapidly out of the postoffice. As soon as > > >the boy as gone, Mr. LOVELACE went to the box into which the boy had > > >inserted his arm and the door of which was half open. Mr. LOVELACE > > >inserted his arm into the same box and called to Mr. TANDY, to see > > >whose box it was. It was box 90, rented to J.C. LEGGITT, to > > >whom the letter found on WELBORN was addressed. > > > > > >Constable GOODRICH told of the arrest of the prisoner and the > > >finding of a large number of letters, addressed to different parties > > >in Hanford, in a water closet in the rear of the vacant lots just > > >east of the Opera House. Young WELBORN who is quite thin, could > > >wiggle himself down through the hole in the closet into the vault > > >beneath, where, secure from detection, he could open letters and > > >take from them anything of value. > > > > > >The testimony was all in at noon, and at the afternoon session > > >Commissioner PRINCE held young WELBORN to answer before the U.S. > > >Court at Los Angeles. The trial of the defendant is likely to come > > >off within a month and the witnesses at the examination will also > > >have to go to Los Angeles to testify. Young WELBORN remains in > > >charge of Deputy U.S. Marshal ALFORD and will be taken to Los > > >Angeles later for trial. > > >------------------------------------------------------ > > >Transcribed by Dee Sardoch > > >To see more old newspapers, visit http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/ > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3050 - Release Date: > 08/04/10 00:45:00 > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3106 - Release Date: >09/01/10 02:34:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. 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Just got around to reading the emails... do I read correctly that Welborn wriggled himself into the hole of a LOO? (water closet?) to read through the letters? And what poor soul was required to retrieve the left over mail? > Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 15:31:02 -0400 > To: lovelace@rootsweb.com > From: greglovelace@comcast.net > Subject: [LL] [PML] Another Hanford (King's Co., CA) Lovelace story, Dec 1896 > > > [Greg's note: The T. Lovelace listed in the newspaper story below is > probably Thomas J. Lovelace, older brother of the twins Lemuel and > Manuel Lovelace, who we recently were discussing. They are all sons > of Archibald. I checked the 1900 census for Hanford, and Thomas J. > was listed there, with the occupation of "keeper cigars and tobacco", > which I assume to mean he was a shopkeeper in a tobacco shop, which > would fit in the story below. We're beginning to know a lot about > this family!] > > > >From: Dee Sardoc <deesar@frontiernet.net> > >Source: NORCAL@rootsweb.com > >Subject: [NORCAL] Hanford, Kings Co., CA - 11 December 1896 > > > >Hanford Journal > >Hanford, Kings Co., California > >Friday, 11 DECEMBER 1896 > >********************************** > > > >HELD TO ANSWER -- > >Hugh WELBORN Will be Tried in the U.S. Court at Los Angeles -- > >On a Charge of Robbing the Postoffice at Hanford -- > >Gist of the Evidence Introduced at the Examination -- > > > >The examination of Hugh WELBORN, the Hanford boy accused of stealing > >letters from the Hanford postoffice, was tried before U.S. Court > >Commissioner PRINCE at Fresno last Wednesday. > > > >There were present from Hanford: > >Jap WELBORN and his wife (parents of Hugh), and his little brother and sister > >Postmaster TANDY > >T. LOVELACE, of the Postoffice store > >Constable GOODRICH > > > >A Fresno lawyer represented the defendant, while Commissioner > >PRINCE, with a view to obtaining the facts relating to the guilt of > >the prisoner, asked questions. U.S. Deputy Marshal Bart ALFORD had > >charge of young WELBORN. > > > >The testimony of Messrs. LOVELACE, TANDY & GOODRICH was taken. The > >postmaster testified that mail had been missing from the office for > >a year and he had suspected WELBORN of the deeds, because he was > >hanging around about the front of the office a good deal, sometimes > >very early in the morning and again late at night; also how on Dec. > >2d, when notified by Mr. LOVELACE of the fact that young WELBORN had > >been seen to open a box and insert his hand therein, he ran after > >WELBORN and took from him a letter addressed to J. Cooper LEGGITT. > >The letter was offered in evidence and was the only exhibit made. > > > >Mr. LOVELACE, who conducts the store in the front part of the > >postoffice, told how on Dec. 2d, he saw young WELBORN enter the > >postoffice and go to the row of boxes on the south side of the > >office. He (LOVELACE) stooped down behind his counter to make the > >boy think he was busy at some work under the counter, but he kept > >his eye on the boy, whom he suspected of stealing letters. He saw > >young WELBORN look carefully about and then put his hand into a box, > >unlock it apparently from the inside and then insert his right arm > >clear up to the elbow. When young WELBORN withdrew his hand there > >was a letter in it, which letter he thrust into the left breast of > >his coat and then walked rapidly out of the postoffice. As soon as > >the boy as gone, Mr. LOVELACE went to the box into which the boy had > >inserted his arm and the door of which was half open. Mr. LOVELACE > >inserted his arm into the same box and called to Mr. TANDY, to see > >whose box it was. It was box 90, rented to J.C. LEGGITT, to > >whom the letter found on WELBORN was addressed. > > > >Constable GOODRICH told of the arrest of the prisoner and the > >finding of a large number of letters, addressed to different parties > >in Hanford, in a water closet in the rear of the vacant lots just > >east of the Opera House. Young WELBORN who is quite thin, could > >wiggle himself down through the hole in the closet into the vault > >beneath, where, secure from detection, he could open letters and > >take from them anything of value. > > > >The testimony was all in at noon, and at the afternoon session > >Commissioner PRINCE held young WELBORN to answer before the U.S. > >Court at Los Angeles. The trial of the defendant is likely to come > >off within a month and the witnesses at the examination will also > >have to go to Los Angeles to testify. Young WELBORN remains in > >charge of Deputy U.S. Marshal ALFORD and will be taken to Los > >Angeles later for trial. > >------------------------------------------------------ > >Transcribed by Dee Sardoch > >To see more old newspapers, visit http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/ > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3050 - Release Date: 08/04/10 00:45:00 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mornin' Cuzzies, The last gasp of August.....and it couldn't come soon enough! This has certainly been a record hot one for us down here in Texas......although the last few days have been in the low 90's instead of the high 90's w/ a few showers from time to time, which has not been as deadly. And, since we last visited, mighty Casey from Pearland, the Little League boys, struck out.....however, they have been welcomed like Kings back here in Houston town. ( : I tracked a Lincoln town car I was after.....though you who've been w/ me many yrs. know I drive one town car after another completely into the ground.....beautiful, clean car, well, well priced. I wheeled it around the block and proclaimed it was a magnificent car and the best on the road. However, it was light years difference in what Lincoln ordinarily produced in the past and it was too bad the company no longer knew what they were doing. No cars are even comfortable anymore because of the way one is strapped in a little comparment area like we are going to be shot from a missle. Ah, me! What some people consider "progress" has a lot to be desired. I now own another Lincoln. ( : Y'all have a good one! ( : Buckette

devil in the details Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: "spice3@juno.com" <spice3@juno.com> Sender: lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 23:30:04 To: <Lovelace@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: lovelace@rootsweb.com Subject: [LL] Fw: Sat Aug 28, 2010 My mother did that....sho did work well. Went click, click, click.... very similiar to how yours went. But, the history of wonderful Ole Buckley was we were rejoined though we had known each other vaguely for years.....when one is a fledging damsel 10 yrs. younger, one does not play w/ the big ole boys.... o : and OB was a dashing, disreputable, bon vivant bachelor of 46 when I married him. And, I like to say abt. him....he never really married. Independent forever. Not to say I wasn't. I really doubt anyone else could have been married to either of us, but each other. So, living trusts and cooperation like that were simply out of the question on both sides. Actually he left everything in perfect order.....it's the people in the middle that are causing the problems, and I will be more explanatory abt. that to everyone later because I think it will cause some of you to check out a few things abt. their own affairs. Buckette Buckette, My parents set up a living trust to keep things simple. When Pop passed three years ago, I settled his estate in about and hour and a half. He had property in two counties and a little of this and that all over the place. No probate, no contesting the will, no bank delays, no junk. It took longer to drive between the county seats than it took with the clerk of court. If only they had cleaned out some junk from the many sheds and basement!!!!!!!!! Still no where near clean. Larry In Harmony ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My mother did that....sho did work well. Went click, click, click.... very similiar to how yours went. But, the history of wonderful Ole Buckley was we were rejoined though we had known each other vaguely for years.....when one is a fledging damsel 10 yrs. younger, one does not play w/ the big ole boys.... o : and OB was a dashing, disreputable, bon vivant bachelor of 46 when I married him. And, I like to say abt. him....he never really married. Independent forever. Not to say I wasn't. I really doubt anyone else could have been married to either of us, but each other. So, living trusts and cooperation like that were simply out of the question on both sides. Actually he left everything in perfect order.....it's the people in the middle that are causing the problems, and I will be more explanatory abt. that to everyone later because I think it will cause some of you to check out a few things abt. their own affairs. Buckette Buckette, My parents set up a living trust to keep things simple. When Pop passed three years ago, I settled his estate in about and hour and a half. He had property in two counties and a little of this and that all over the place. No probate, no contesting the will, no bank delays, no junk. It took longer to drive between the county seats than it took with the clerk of court. If only they had cleaned out some junk from the many sheds and basement!!!!!!!!! Still no where near clean. Larry In Harmony

Buckette, my mother once moved 18 five gallon bucket of rainwater! And, about 40 years ago in the final illness of a friend of my mother, this woman asked my mother to take care of "Uncle Walter's ashes". I still have the ashes - he is not our relative; I have done no genealogical research to see if he has any living relatives; and I keep forgetting to put Uncle Walter at rest every time I plant a rose. Sigh! Lisabeth On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 5:30 PM, spice3@juno.com <spice3@juno.com> wrote: > My mother did that....sho did work well. Went click, click, click.... > very similiar to how yours went. > > But, the history of wonderful Ole Buckley was we were rejoined though > we had known each other vaguely for years.....when one is a fledging > damsel 10 yrs. younger, one does not play w/ the big ole boys.... o : > and OB was a dashing, disreputable, bon vivant bachelor of 46 when I > married him. And, I like to say abt. him....he never really married. > Independent forever. Not to say I wasn't. I really doubt anyone else > could have been married to either of us, but each other. So, living > trusts > and cooperation like that were simply out of the question on both sides. > Actually he left everything in perfect order.....it's the people in the > middle > that are causing the problems, and I will be more explanatory abt. that to > everyone later because I think it will cause some of you to check out a few > things abt. their own affairs. > > Buckette > > > > Buckette, > > My parents set up a living trust to keep things simple. When Pop passed > three years ago, I settled his estate in about and hour and a half. He > had property in two counties and a little of this and that all over the > place. No probate, no contesting the will, no bank delays, no junk. It > took longer to drive between the county seats than it took with the > clerk of court. > If only they had cleaned out some junk from the many sheds and > basement!!!!!!!!! Still no where near clean. > Larry > In Harmony > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Lisa

Buckette, My parents set up a living trust to keep things simple. When Pop passed three years ago, I settled his estate in about and hour and a half. He had property in two counties and a little of this and that all over the place. No probate, no contesting the will, no bank delays, no junk. It took longer to drive between the county seats than it took with the clerk of court. If only they had cleaned out some junk from the many sheds and basement!!!!!!!!! Still no where near clean. Larry In Harmony On 8/28/2010 10:42 AM, spice3@juno.com wrote: > Mornin' Cuzzies, > > Gonna get down to a little reality here today....pay attention. > > A psychologist fren of mine told me when you get into your late 50's, you > should start down sizing because you are leaving. I thought he was nuts! > But, I'll tell you now.....do it and keep everything cleared out you are not > using. Reality is....you won't again. If the partner goes down w/ an illness, > it's too late for that project because your time will be spent as a caregiver. > Don't let thingees stack up that you'll do tomorrow.....tomorrow will turn out > to be busier than today, and you'll have less energy. Wire everything as > if you are leaving earth's plane tomorrow. Don't ignore that we are leaving > because we all are. o : > > Also, be prepared to be screwed by the banks, the credit card companies, > the credit bureaus, the court....and all those things you wrongly think are so > solid. Ole Buckley, God bless him, was absolutely like living w/ a bull in a > china closet....messiest human being that ever lived.....had his stuff strewn from > one end of this place to the other....but, yet was the most meticulous, organized > man underneath I've ever seen. It's amazing! And, yes, I've run into problems > because of biz practices of the corporate world, but none I can't and won't soundly > defeat. ( : It just takes more time and energy, and they will be w/out one less > customer I'm sure.....for I have all of their back-ups solidly in place. > > Anyhoo, feel great, healthy as a horse? Tidy up your world anyway, and make > sure your partner does the same. One never knows what the trip is gonna be. It'll > save lots of aggravation at a time when the other one doesn't need it. And, no > matter how well wired you are, there will be others who are not on the same page to > mess w/ your general game plan. > > Y'all have a good one! ( : > > Buckette > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ NOD32 5401 (20100827) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > >

To jeff lovelace , jeff just a note to let you know dad died in june.I have some information on the names of his brothers and sisters as well as the birth dates of his parents.just let me know if you need them.looking foward to your next visit to TN. Ed Jr Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Great advice cuz, we are doing that now Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: "spice3@juno.com" <spice3@juno.com> Sender: lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 14:42:36 To: <lovelace@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: lovelace@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LL] Sat Aug 28, 2010 Mornin' Cuzzies, Gonna get down to a little reality here today....pay attention. A psychologist fren of mine told me when you get into your late 50's, you should start down sizing because you are leaving. I thought he was nuts! But, I'll tell you now.....do it and keep everything cleared out you are not using. Reality is....you won't again. If the partner goes down w/ an illness, it's too late for that project because your time will be spent as a caregiver. Don't let thingees stack up that you'll do tomorrow.....tomorrow will turn out to be busier than today, and you'll have less energy. Wire everything as if you are leaving earth's plane tomorrow. Don't ignore that we are leaving because we all are. o : Also, be prepared to be screwed by the banks, the credit card companies, the credit bureaus, the court....and all those things you wrongly think are so solid. Ole Buckley, God bless him, was absolutely like living w/ a bull in a china closet....messiest human being that ever lived.....had his stuff strewn from one end of this place to the other....but, yet was the most meticulous, organized man underneath I've ever seen. It's amazing! And, yes, I've run into problems because of biz practices of the corporate world, but none I can't and won't soundly defeat. ( : It just takes more time and energy, and they will be w/out one less customer I'm sure.....for I have all of their back-ups solidly in place. Anyhoo, feel great, healthy as a horse? Tidy up your world anyway, and make sure your partner does the same. One never knows what the trip is gonna be. It'll save lots of aggravation at a time when the other one doesn't need it. And, no matter how well wired you are, there will be others who are not on the same page to mess w/ your general game plan. Y'all have a good one! ( : Buckette ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mornin' Cuzzies, Gonna get down to a little reality here today....pay attention. A psychologist fren of mine told me when you get into your late 50's, you should start down sizing because you are leaving. I thought he was nuts! But, I'll tell you now.....do it and keep everything cleared out you are not using. Reality is....you won't again. If the partner goes down w/ an illness, it's too late for that project because your time will be spent as a caregiver. Don't let thingees stack up that you'll do tomorrow.....tomorrow will turn out to be busier than today, and you'll have less energy. Wire everything as if you are leaving earth's plane tomorrow. Don't ignore that we are leaving because we all are. o : Also, be prepared to be screwed by the banks, the credit card companies, the credit bureaus, the court....and all those things you wrongly think are so solid. Ole Buckley, God bless him, was absolutely like living w/ a bull in a china closet....messiest human being that ever lived.....had his stuff strewn from one end of this place to the other....but, yet was the most meticulous, organized man underneath I've ever seen. It's amazing! And, yes, I've run into problems because of biz practices of the corporate world, but none I can't and won't soundly defeat. ( : It just takes more time and energy, and they will be w/out one less customer I'm sure.....for I have all of their back-ups solidly in place. Anyhoo, feel great, healthy as a horse? Tidy up your world anyway, and make sure your partner does the same. One never knows what the trip is gonna be. It'll save lots of aggravation at a time when the other one doesn't need it. And, no matter how well wired you are, there will be others who are not on the same page to mess w/ your general game plan. Y'all have a good one! ( : Buckette

This is a good site to find information on those who died in the Vietnam War. Larry Lovelace > > > This is quite amazing... > > First click on a state. When it opens, scroll down to the city and the names will appear. Then click on their names. It should show you a picture of the person, or at least their bio and medals. > > > This really is an amazing web site. Someone spent a lot of time and effort to create it. > > > I hope that everyone who receives this appreciates what those who served in Vietnam sacrificed for our country. > > > The link below is a virtual wall of all those lost during the Vietnam war with the names, bio's and other information on our lost heroes. Those who remember that timeframe, or perhaps lost friends or family can look them up on this site. > > Pass the link on to others if you like. > > www.virtualwall.org/iStates.htm

Mornin' Cuzzies, Well, don't look now, but we got three tropical storms coming our way in the Atlantic Oceans. I go to http://www.nws.noaa.gov/ which is the national weather bureau and look them up in the column on the left hand side which says hurricanes. The first one is scheduled to turn and go up the Atlantic coast and may miss the US altogether. Aaaand, Pearland, Texas, from the Houston area finds themselves in the finals of the Little League World Championship.....their two games w/ WA were just unbelievable! One wanted both teams to win! Fabulous hitting, pitching, plays.....and some biggie little kid errors and nerves. It was worth watching. I won't miss the next game.....on CNN2.....Sattiday.... Speaking of.....the indictments against Roger Clemens are just unbelievable. Like the pot, who is Congress, calling the kettle black. Will any member of Congress who has not broken the law please stand up! It is almost impossible to keep up w/ all the crazies going on in our gubmit today.....makes me tired to watch them! So, have a good one! ( : Buckette

I got to catch part of the game yesterday between Texas and WA....and it was an exciting game. Some very talented kids on both Teams. I caught myself pulling for both Teams on each play. Have a great one, Suze! ----- Original Message ----- From: <spice3@juno.com> To: <lovelace@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 7:55 AM Subject: Re: [LL] Fri Aug 27, 2010 > Mornin' Cuzzies, > > Well, don't look now, but we got three tropical storms coming our way in > the Atlantic Oceans. I go to http://www.nws.noaa.gov/ which is the > national > weather bureau and look them up in the column on the left hand side which > says hurricanes. The first one is scheduled to turn and go up the > Atlantic > coast and may miss the US altogether. > > Aaaand, Pearland, Texas, from the Houston area finds themselves in the > finals of the Little League World Championship.....their two games w/ WA > were just unbelievable! One wanted both teams to win! Fabulous > hitting, > pitching, plays.....and some biggie little kid errors and nerves. It was > worth > watching. I won't miss the next game.....on CNN2.....Sattiday.... > > Speaking of.....the indictments against Roger Clemens are just > unbelievable. > Like the pot, who is Congress, calling the kettle black. Will any member > of > Congress who has not broken the law please stand up! It is almost > impossible > to keep up w/ all the crazies going on in our gubmit today.....makes me > tired to > watch them! > > So, have a good one! ( : > > Buckette > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

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Well Said Nancy, Most Agreeable, Thanks   POP --- On Wed, 8/25/10, Nancy Gooch <nlg123@comcast.net> wrote: From: Nancy Gooch <nlg123@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [LL] Mormon doctrine etc To: lovelace@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 5:18 AM Whatever the beliefs of the Mormons, the point is, and all I'm saying is that because of their work in gathering all this information and having it available for free to all people, that we should not jump on their beliefs in a derogatory manner on this list or anywhere else.  The Mormons have done more for genealogical research than anyone anywhere.  The Mormons   have research centers all around the country, where anyone, no matter what your religion or beliefs can go and look at records from all over the world. Records that most of us cannot travel all the places we  would need to go to find those records on our own.  I for one am grateful for that.  I have been to their family centers for research many times and not once have any of them ever tried to convert me or asked for my information so that they could pray my ancestors into Heaven.    Whether or not we agree or disagree with their beliefs is totally beside the point.  I don't really know much about their beliefs and frankly I don't care what they believe , they have gathered in the records, made them available to all, so all I'm saying is that we don't need to be knocking anyone or anything on this list, especially people's religion, politics or family. For whatever reasons we all relish the hunt.  Of course we run across errors in our research, there are many out there, and not just from people putting undocumented information on ancestry or wherever, but in census records, marriage records, there are possibilites for errors everywhere.  That is why we stress doing your own research , documenting your own findings , so that we know for a fact or not that so and so was so and so's father, or at least we know who the father is according to the records, right or wrong. Nancy Lovelace Gooch Atlanta, Ga ----- Original Message ----- From: "S B" <research33@hotmail.com> To: lovelace@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 2:45:19 AM Subject: Re: [LL] Mormon doctrine etc Nancy and Harvey: Mormonism is a very dangerous topic.  I WILL say as the g-granddaughter of one of the "High 12"....  YES, Mormons do indeed do the research for the specific purpose of "praying them into Heaven" Mormons believe in the "baptism of the dead" and that one must perform baptisms on behalf of dead relatives/ancestors so that those relatives are not left lingering in their version of purgatory and also to assure your own place in the Celestial Kingdom- individuals are called to research on behalf of LDS as their "works" on earth.   My grandparents were adamant when my father died that he must have a proxy baptism, even though he was strongly anti-Mormon and believed strongly that Mormonism was a cult (He broke the Mormonism chain in our branch of the family).  Against his wishes and mine, I found out doing genealogy research that indeed, a proxy-baptism was performed for him.  I also found that my grandmother was one of the head researchers for LDS... for the purpose of proxy-baptism for deceased individuals.   So, to some extent, Harvey is correct. -SB                                                   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hey Suze... Your Pearland team is going against our Auburn, WA team again today... Auburn won last night. I saw highlights on the news and it looked like an exciting game! First time in a long time that a Washington State team has gone that far in the Little League World Series, so you can imagine the excitement around here! Have a good one, everyone!! :-) Pat Loveless Brooks -----Original Message----- From: lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of spice3@juno.com Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 9:19 AM To: lovelace@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LL] Wed Aug 25, 2010 Mornin' Cuzzies, For Little League fans Pearland is going again tonight.....they are worth watching....beautiful little, well-balanced team. I'm sure it will be televised.

Much hotter than in California! -----Original Message----- From: lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lisabeth Davis Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 8:01 PM To: lovelace@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LL] Wed Aug 25, 2010 How hot will a black car with black interior get in San Antonio? On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:19 AM, spice3@juno.com <spice3@juno.com> wrote: > Mornin' Cuzzies, > > For Little League fans Pearland is going again tonight.....they are worth > watching....beautiful little, well-balanced team. I'm sure it will be > televised. > > And, we got storms sorta brewing out there in the Atlantic.....we'd take > *any* > kind of little rain break to cool the heat a bit.....everyone still in > Texas still > squawling over the temperatures! > > Ran into a super little guy who deals in nothing but used low mileage > Lincoln > Town Cars which is what I drive.....been looking for another chariot for > quite > awhile....and this guy currently has 5 absolute beauts.....all selling > under Blue > Book. One is black w/ black leather seats.....I could be the drugster's > moll, > huh. ( : He sells all over the country if someone thinks they need > one. > > If you are sitting there twirling your pencil w/ nothing to do, come on > down to > Houston.....I could use the help! Millions of ticky tacky thingees to > do! o : > > Have a good one! > > Buckette > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Lisa ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

How hot will a black car with black interior get in San Antonio? On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:19 AM, spice3@juno.com <spice3@juno.com> wrote: > Mornin' Cuzzies, > > For Little League fans Pearland is going again tonight.....they are worth > watching....beautiful little, well-balanced team. I'm sure it will be > televised. > > And, we got storms sorta brewing out there in the Atlantic.....we'd take > *any* > kind of little rain break to cool the heat a bit.....everyone still in > Texas still > squawling over the temperatures! > > Ran into a super little guy who deals in nothing but used low mileage > Lincoln > Town Cars which is what I drive.....been looking for another chariot for > quite > awhile....and this guy currently has 5 absolute beauts.....all selling > under Blue > Book. One is black w/ black leather seats.....I could be the drugster's > moll, > huh. ( : He sells all over the country if someone thinks they need > one. > > If you are sitting there twirling your pencil w/ nothing to do, come on > down to > Houston.....I could use the help! Millions of ticky tacky thingees to > do! o : > > Have a good one! > > Buckette > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Lisa

Mornin' Cuzzies, For Little League fans Pearland is going again tonight.....they are worth watching....beautiful little, well-balanced team. I'm sure it will be televised. And, we got storms sorta brewing out there in the Atlantic.....we'd take *any* kind of little rain break to cool the heat a bit.....everyone still in Texas still squawling over the temperatures! Ran into a super little guy who deals in nothing but used low mileage Lincoln Town Cars which is what I drive.....been looking for another chariot for quite awhile....and this guy currently has 5 absolute beauts.....all selling under Blue Book. One is black w/ black leather seats.....I could be the drugster's moll, huh. ( : He sells all over the country if someone thinks they need one. If you are sitting there twirling your pencil w/ nothing to do, come on down to Houston.....I could use the help! Millions of ticky tacky thingees to do! o : Have a good one! Buckette