In a message dated 12/22/10 10:17:49 AM, Blgert@aol.com writes: > That is why you might see a name spelled > differently  form era to era, when the city clerk or church warden > position > changed to  another person. > I've seen names spelled differently throughout the same document. Lou Ann

This is how is was looking at the spelling issue, I agree it was more lack of knowing what was correct by officials and just guessing or a literacy situation. When someone could not read or write the official they were working with just went by how it sounded. In my area here in Indiana many people pronounce the name Campbell as "Camel" just imagine what that caused in writing out a family name. Sheila

Re: spelling of Loveless and Lovelace... There are several issues connected with the spelling issue. 1) Spelling was not consistent and often phonetic until well into the 1900s. 2) in the 1700s and 1800s in Great Britain and the US, many people could not write their own names. If you have ever looked at legal documents, you might see the signer's mark - usually an "X". The name is the written by an official who may or may not know how the name should be spelled and often did not think twice about it. That is why you might see a name spelled differently form era to era, when the city clerk or church warden position changed to another person. 3) and of course the family splits may have had something to do with it, but I suspect it may be far less an occurrence than we might imagine. Bonnie Fletcher Eggert descendant of Elijah and Hannah Spalding Loveless of NY

Hi, folks And hello to Jerry Wright <pjw234@gmail.com> Jerry's wife is a descendant of John Baptist Lovelace of Maryland through this line: John Baptist Lovelace (1712 - 1765) William Lovelace (1747 - 1815) James Beal Lovelace (1779 -1860) William Ray Lovelace (1815 -1902) George Crawford Lovelace (1844 - 1876) William Crawford Lovelace (1873 - 1956) Bryan Wood Lovelace (1900 - 1979) Mattilyn Willis Lovelace (1927 - ) Jerry has submitted a DNA kit for Mattilyn's brother John William Lovelace (kit #194341; hasn;t been returned yet). Welcome to the group, Jerry, and by proxy, Mattilyn. When you get comfortable with us, let us hear from you. In the meantime, feel free to dig in our archives, and be sure to visit our website at <http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~lovelace>http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~lovelace Our online library of Lovelxxx documents, narratives, and pictures is an ongoing project to which we add as time allows. You can access it right now by clicking on the "Documents" button on the left margin of the main page. We now also have a companion website on MyFamily.com. If you're not familiar with that organization, to go <http://www.myfamily.com>http://www.myfamily.com and read to find out a little more about it. If you'd like to be invited to join that site, please email me at < <mailto:greglovelace@comcast.net>greglovelace@comcast.net>. Glad to have with us :-) Peace, Part of the Tree, Greg

>From: articles@newspaperabstracts.com >Source: NY-OLD-NEWS@rootsweb.com >Subject: [NY~Old-News] St. Louis Post Dispatch in New York County New York > > >A new article has been added to New York County New York: >http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/index.php?action=displaycat&catid=708 > >Newspaper: St. Louis Post Dispatch dated April 21 1886 >About: Wouldn't Marry Her. J. M. LOVELACE, a Bank Clerk, Arrested >for Breach of Promise. >You can read the full article at: >http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/link.php?action=detail&id=76121 St. Louis Post Dispatch Contributed by Gigimo Search For Obituary Records At Archives! Description: Wouldn't Marry Her. J. M. LOVELACE, a Bank Clerk, Arrested for Breach of Promise. Date: April 21 1886 Newspaper published in: St. Louis, MO New York, April 21. Deputy Sheriff FITZGERALD arrested yesterday J. M. LOVELACE, a young man in the employ of the commercial Bank of this city, on an order issued by Justice ANDREWS in the suit of Miss Anna M. PROWSE, who claims $25,000 damages for alleged breach of promise and seduction. Miss PROWSE avers in her affidavit, that she met LOVELACE in 188_ in Montreal, where they both lived. The alleged offense was committed in 1885. LOVELACE, she says, left Montreal and came to New York and sent for her to follow him. She came here and lived with him as his wife in Clinton place. In April, 188_, she went to the Coleman House with her father and demanded of LOVELACE that he should fulfill his promise of marriage, whereupon LOVELACE refused, and said he would not marry a woman with less than $100,000. LOVELACE was sent to Ludlow Street Jail in default of $5,000 bail. [Greg's note: I did a brief search and did find a James M. Lovelace listed in New York City in the 1920 census, age 64. He was a lodger in an apartment building. I didn't search any further, but also looked for Anna Prowse, of which there are tons on Ancestry.com. If anyone wants to continue the search, please feel free and post results to the list.]

---------- Original Message ---------- From: Doris Reece <reece.doris@gmail.com> To: lovelace@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LL] A Question about family lore Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 10:13:23 -0600 I was always under the impression that they changed their names when they had a falling out of opinions. During the civil war if one side of the family switched political views they would change the spelling to seperate themselves politically. My Mother was Loveless as a child and then they switched back to Lovelace later on. My Grandmother always pronounced the name as Loveless. There was also the possibility that the spelling was changed because some of them couldn't read or write very well. Teri Steiner I know my lovelxxx'x spelled the name back and forth and included lovlis in old records - On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 10:56 PM, <Brondak@aol.com> wrote: > > In a message dated 12/17/10 9:50:39 PM, KFurBallKell@aol.com writes: > > > > I was talking to Betty Lovelace today about her family (still working on > > getting someone to do a DNA test) and she told me they were told about 10 > > years ago that the Lovelace & Loveless names were split over in England > > because of some kind of trouble a Lovelace got into and they were told > > "they had > > three choices, be tarred and feathered, leave the country or change > their > > name from Lovelace to Loveless." Has anyone else heard this? I had no > > idea > > what to say because she really believes this is true. The Lovelace > > researcher she was speaking to said his Lovelace family left the country > > and > > immigrated to Canada at that point? > > > > Well, she may be talking about the Martyrs. Or she could be talking about > the > line that did immigrate to Canada. But, there is similar lore over here > too. > In our line starting with our GA Barton born ca 1798, our spelling became > Loveless. > Long before I knew anything about our family, the lore was that two > brothers had a > falling out and one went west and changed the spelling of the name. Turns > out that > Barton's father was Samuel who left the Rutherford area where his brothers > were. > They kept the Lovelace spelling...so did Samuel and his brothers have a > falling out? > > But, Barton has a brother William who went to TN and his line kept > Lovelace. So, > did Barton and William have a falling out? The lines of two other > brothers Seaborn > and James went to Loveless also. So, was there a falling out? Who > knows? Like > I said earlier, lore is unreliable, but there is often a grain of truth > somewhere to > be found in it. > Lou Ann > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________ Browse the web faster. Download Chrome Browse the web as fast as you think. Give Google Chrome a try http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d11a4ca9eda877eb5st01duc

I know my lovelxxx'x spelled the name back and forth and included lovlis in old records - On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 10:56 PM, <Brondak@aol.com> wrote: > > In a message dated 12/17/10 9:50:39 PM, KFurBallKell@aol.com writes: > > > > I was talking to Betty Lovelace today about her family (still working on > > getting someone to do a DNA test) and she told me they were told about 10 > > years ago that the Lovelace & Loveless names were split over in England > > because of some kind of trouble a Lovelace got into and they were told > > "they had > > three choices, be tarred and feathered, leave the country or change > their > > name from Lovelace to Loveless." Has anyone else heard this? I had no > > idea > > what to say because she really believes this is true. The Lovelace > > researcher she was speaking to said his Lovelace family left the country > > and > > immigrated to Canada at that point? > > > > Well, she may be talking about the Martyrs. Or she could be talking about > the > line that did immigrate to Canada. But, there is similar lore over here > too. > In our line starting with our GA Barton born ca 1798, our spelling became > Loveless. > Long before I knew anything about our family, the lore was that two > brothers had a > falling out and one went west and changed the spelling of the name. Turns > out that > Barton's father was Samuel who left the Rutherford area where his brothers > were. > They kept the Lovelace spelling...so did Samuel and his brothers have a > falling out? > > But, Barton has a brother William who went to TN and his line kept > Lovelace. So, > did Barton and William have a falling out? The lines of two other > brothers Seaborn > and James went to Loveless also. So, was there a falling out? Who > knows? Like > I said earlier, lore is unreliable, but there is often a grain of truth > somewhere to > be found in it. > Lou Ann > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

In a message dated 12/20/10 5:34:14 PM, lovelacejackd@verizon.net writes: > > I do have a Thomas W. Loveless who was born c1664 in Maryland.  He was > named as the executor of the will of William A. Loveless, the > transportee, in Talbot County.  I do not have any descendents for Thomas. > Jack, I have seen this info a lot, but I can't find a source for it. Do you have a source or a copy of the will or something that tells where this will reference can be found. >>>> Thomas Lovelace (b: c1685; d: c1750) did marry Eleanor LNU in c1709.   Thomas bought 125 acres of land in Batchellor's Forrest on 13 Dec 1745. Thomas and Eleanor did have a son named John who was born in c1710.  John b: c1710 married Jane LNU in 1741 and they had sons Ignatious (b:1742) and John (b: 1745).>>>> Jack, what do you have that proves any of these dates and people? I'm not saying you're wrong. I just can't find any documention that proves them. >>>>>The parents of John (b: 1698) are not known.  John had property in Zachariah Manor and sons Philip (b: 1725), Samuel (b: 1732), and Luke (b: 1736).  The male descendents of Samuel are found in the main Maryland haplotype.>>> He also had son John Baptist and wife Anne. Lou Ann

The notes that I have on Peleg's son William and Mary Bates are from previous post by Pat Brooks and others: >From the "Commemorative Biographical Record of Dutchess County, New York, containing biographical sketches of prominent and representative citizens, and of many of the early settled families". WILLIAM LOVELACE was born in the year 1812, in Putnam county, where his boyhood days were passed, and during his youth he learned the carpenter's trade, but did not long follow that occupation, as he soon began farming in the town of Stanford, Dutchess county, remaining there several years. Ten years were afterward spent in the town of Washington, at the expiration of which time he returned to Stanford, where he carried on agricultural pursuits for thirteen years. He next located upon a farm on Chestnut Ridge, in the town of Dover, which he still owns, but is now retired in Millbrook, town of Washington. Although he started out in life with nothing, he has by energy and perseverance become a very successful man. He is a stanch adherent of the Democratic party, but has never cared for political preferment, and is a consistent member of the Baptist Church. On November 14, 1835, in the town of Washington, he led to the marriage alter Miss Mary Bates, a daughter of Joseph Bates, and four children blessed their union: Francis, deceased; James H.; Richard, of the town of Dover, and Asa, of Millbrook. Bill O'Daniel's same message included the fact that > Frances Elizabeth Lovelace, daughter of William and Mary, died 9 Nov., > 1848, age 12 years, 1 month and was buried in St Peter's Cemetery, Lithgow, NY. Community Ground [Cemetery] in Stanfordville NY, was the entry: "William Lovelace, 1812-1902" and "Mary Bates Lovelace, wife of William, 1816-1908" Pat Brooks Tom Loveless -----Original Message----- From: Greg Lovelace Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 10:14 PM To: lovelace@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LL] Clifford A. Lovelace Hi, Heather Nice to hear from you, and welcome again to the group. I just did some quick searching in the Lovelace List archives and through census records on Ancestry.com, and I think I may have found your line. Check this: Clifford < Frank R. (+ Leona Conover) < Richard (+ Cassie Storey) < William (+Mary Bates) < Peleg Mostly from Dutchess Co., NY. Pat Brooks, do you see this? Can you confirm? At 01:55 AM 12/19/2010, you wrote: >Hi, > >I am currently seeking more info on my grandfather, who has passed >away years ago. I never knew much about him or his heritage further, >my father's side of the family was very unknown. No one seems to >know, that are still living of course. I was wondering if there is >anymore info out there on Clifford A. Lovelace(Dutchess County, NY), >born 1921/death 2002, son of Frank and Leona Conover Lovelace. >Possibly found out more about his parents(my great grandparents), >lineage and origin. Please let me if you could help me, it would be >much appreciated! > >- Heather Lovelace ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jack That is what I have, but, I don't know of anyone that has any documentation to that fact. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack D. Lovelace" <lovelacejackd@verizon.net> To: <lovelace@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 04:47 PM Subject: Re: [LL] Clifford A. Lovelace > Tom, Pat, > > If I have put the family together correctly, Peleg(Pelage) is the fifth > son of William Lovleace and Elizabeth Burns. Abram is the sixth son. > > Tom Henry wrote: >> There is some speculation that Peleg(Pelage) would be the brother to my >> GGGGrandfather Abraham(Abram)...Pat, what do you think? >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Greg Lovelace" <greglovelace@comcast.net> >> To: <lovelace@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 11:14 PM >> Subject: Re: [LL] Clifford A. Lovelace >> >> >> >>> Hi, Heather >>> >>> Nice to hear from you, and welcome again to the group. >>> >>> I just did some quick searching in the Lovelace List archives and >>> through census records on Ancestry.com, and I think I may have found >>> your line. Check this: >>> >>> Clifford < Frank R. (+ Leona Conover) < Richard (+ Cassie Storey) < >>> William (+Mary Bates) < Peleg >>> >>> Mostly from Dutchess Co., NY. >>> >>> Pat Brooks, do you see this? Can you confirm? >>> >>> >>> At 01:55 AM 12/19/2010, you wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I am currently seeking more info on my grandfather, who has passed >>>> away years ago. I never knew much about him or his heritage further, >>>> my father's side of the family was very unknown. No one seems to >>>> know, that are still living of course. I was wondering if there is >>>> anymore info out there on Clifford A. Lovelace(Dutchess County, NY), >>>> born 1921/death 2002, son of Frank and Leona Conover Lovelace. >>>> Possibly found out more about his parents(my great grandparents), >>>> lineage and origin. Please let me if you could help me, it would be >>>> much appreciated! >>>> >>>> - Heather Lovelace >>>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> No virus found in this message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3324 - Release Date: 12/18/10 >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > -- > Jack D. Lovelace > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3326 - Release Date: 12/19/10 >

Tom, There is a document in some history book for a county in Pennsylvania (I forget which right off the top of my head) which identifies the younger children in the family. The rest of the family was pieced together with census records, starting with Dutchess County in 1790. Tom Henry wrote: > Jack > > That is what I have, but, I don't know of anyone that has any documentation > to that fact. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jack D. Lovelace" <lovelacejackd@verizon.net> > To: <lovelace@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 04:47 PM > Subject: Re: [LL] Clifford A. Lovelace > > > >> Tom, Pat, >> >> If I have put the family together correctly, Peleg(Pelage) is the fifth >> son of William Lovleace and Elizabeth Burns. Abram is the sixth son. >> >> Tom Henry wrote: >> >>> There is some speculation that Peleg(Pelage) would be the brother to my >>> GGGGrandfather Abraham(Abram)...Pat, what do you think? >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Greg Lovelace" <greglovelace@comcast.net> >>> To: <lovelace@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 11:14 PM >>> Subject: Re: [LL] Clifford A. Lovelace >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hi, Heather >>>> >>>> Nice to hear from you, and welcome again to the group. >>>> >>>> I just did some quick searching in the Lovelace List archives and >>>> through census records on Ancestry.com, and I think I may have found >>>> your line. Check this: >>>> >>>> Clifford < Frank R. (+ Leona Conover) < Richard (+ Cassie Storey) < >>>> William (+Mary Bates) < Peleg >>>> >>>> Mostly from Dutchess Co., NY. >>>> >>>> Pat Brooks, do you see this? Can you confirm? >>>> >>>> >>>> At 01:55 AM 12/19/2010, you wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I am currently seeking more info on my grandfather, who has passed >>>>> away years ago. I never knew much about him or his heritage further, >>>>> my father's side of the family was very unknown. No one seems to >>>>> know, that are still living of course. I was wondering if there is >>>>> anymore info out there on Clifford A. Lovelace(Dutchess County, NY), >>>>> born 1921/death 2002, son of Frank and Leona Conover Lovelace. >>>>> Possibly found out more about his parents(my great grandparents), >>>>> lineage and origin. Please let me if you could help me, it would be >>>>> much appreciated! >>>>> >>>>> - Heather Lovelace >>>>> >>>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> No virus found in this message. >>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>> Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3324 - Release Date: 12/18/10 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> Jack D. Lovelace >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3326 - Release Date: 12/19/10 >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- Jack D. Lovelace

Greg Lovelace wrote: > Hi, cuzzins. > > I need a little help here. I am trying to convince the wife of a > descendant of Asa Lovelace of Rutherford/Cleveland Co., NC through > his son Alvin, that she is in error in tracing the family back to > 13th century England. Here, in part, is the descent she gives > leading to Benjamin b. c1727 of Maryland, father of Barton: > > " Elizabeth Aucher married Sir William Lovelace IV (b. 1561) and had > a child William Lovelace V (b. 1584) > " William Lovelace V married Anne Barne(s) (b. 1590) and had a son > Thomas Lovelace (b. 1620) > Thomas Lovelace, the son of William Lovelace and Anne Barne, was the brother of Francis Lovelace, the governor of New York. Thomas Lovelace resided in New York, along with his brothers Francis and Dudley. I have Thomas with five sons, none of whom survived Thomas, who died in 1689. There is no record that Thomas was ever in Maryland. > " Thomas Lovelace married Mary Jane ___ and had a son Thomas Lovelace > (b. 1664 Maryland) > I do not have a Thomas Lovelace who married a Mary Jane LNU and who resided in Maryland. I do have a Thomas W. Loveless who was born c1664 in Maryland. He was named as the executor of the will of William A. Loveless, the transportee, in Talbot County. I do not have any descendents for Thomas. > " Thomas Lovelace married Eleanor (d. 1765) and had a son John > Lovelace (b. 1698, Port Tobacco, MD) > Thomas Lovelace (b: c1685; d: c1750) did marry Eleanor LNU in c1709. Thomas bought 125 acres of land in Batchellor's Forrest on 13 Dec 1745. Thomas and Eleanor did have a son named John who was born in c1710. John b: c1710 married Jane LNU in 1741 and they had sons Ignatious (b:1742) and John (b: 1745). The parents of John (b: 1698) are not known. John had property in Zachariah Manor and sons Philip (b: 1725), Samuel (b: 1732), and Luke (b: 1736). The male descendents of Samuel are found in the main Maryland haplotype. > " John Lovelace married Mary Jane Young (or Nancy Bohanian?) and had > a son Benjamin Lovelace (b. 1727, Rock Creek, MD) > I have not found any documentation in the archives that has a John Lovelace marrying a "Mary Jane Young". The information provided by Maria Lipscomb lumped together the information from six or seven different Johns. One of these Johns was the John Lovelace who married Nancy Bohanan. (Since this is Maria's line, I tend to think that she got this John right). John who married Nancy Bohanan resided in Culpeper County, Virginia. All of the other Johns resided in Maryland (mostly Charles County). The male descendents of John and Nancy Bohanan Lovelace are found in the Maryland DYS 439 (12) haplotype. The male descendents of Benjamin Lovelace (b: 1727) are found in the Maryland DYS 456 (16) haplotype. So Benjamin is not a son of John and Nancy Bohanan Lovelace. If there is any relationship between John and Benjamin, which I doubt, they are brothers or cousins. > The family she traces back to the 1200s is the family of Elizabeth > Aucher. But I know she's in error taking Benjamin back to John, or > at least there is no supporting evidence for that relationship. Can > anyone provide me with a persuasive argument backed up by > documentation that this descent is wrong? Jack? David? Lou Ann? Anybody? > > Thanks.... > > Peace, > Part of the Tree, > Greg > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- Jack D. Lovelace

Tom, Pat, If I have put the family together correctly, Peleg(Pelage) is the fifth son of William Lovleace and Elizabeth Burns. Abram is the sixth son. Tom Henry wrote: > There is some speculation that Peleg(Pelage) would be the brother to my > GGGGrandfather Abraham(Abram)...Pat, what do you think? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Greg Lovelace" <greglovelace@comcast.net> > To: <lovelace@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 11:14 PM > Subject: Re: [LL] Clifford A. Lovelace > > > >> Hi, Heather >> >> Nice to hear from you, and welcome again to the group. >> >> I just did some quick searching in the Lovelace List archives and >> through census records on Ancestry.com, and I think I may have found >> your line. Check this: >> >> Clifford < Frank R. (+ Leona Conover) < Richard (+ Cassie Storey) < >> William (+Mary Bates) < Peleg >> >> Mostly from Dutchess Co., NY. >> >> Pat Brooks, do you see this? Can you confirm? >> >> >> At 01:55 AM 12/19/2010, you wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I am currently seeking more info on my grandfather, who has passed >>> away years ago. I never knew much about him or his heritage further, >>> my father's side of the family was very unknown. No one seems to >>> know, that are still living of course. I was wondering if there is >>> anymore info out there on Clifford A. Lovelace(Dutchess County, NY), >>> born 1921/death 2002, son of Frank and Leona Conover Lovelace. >>> Possibly found out more about his parents(my great grandparents), >>> lineage and origin. Please let me if you could help me, it would be >>> much appreciated! >>> >>> - Heather Lovelace >>> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3324 - Release Date: 12/18/10 >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- Jack D. Lovelace

Heather, The parents of Frank Lovelace are probably Richard Lovelace and his wife Carrie. Richard was born in Dover, Dutchess County, New York about Jul 1879. I have no proof (as yet), but I believe that Richard is descended from William Lovelace and Elizabeth Burns who immigrated from England before 1770. We do not have any DNA test results for this line. Do you have any brothers or male cousins who could be tested? Heather Lovelace wrote: > Hi, > > I am currently seeking more info on my grandfather, who has passed away years ago. I never knew much about him or his heritage further, my father's side of the family was very unknown. No one seems to know, that are still living of course. I was wondering if there is anymore info out there on Clifford A. Lovelace(Dutchess County, NY), born 1921/death 2002, son of Frank and Leona Conover Lovelace. Possibly found out more about his parents(my great grandparents), lineage and origin. Please let me if you could help me, it would be much appreciated! > > - Heather Lovelace > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- Jack D. Lovelace

There is some speculation that Peleg(Pelage) would be the brother to my GGGGrandfather Abraham(Abram)...Pat, what do you think? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Lovelace" <greglovelace@comcast.net> To: <lovelace@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 11:14 PM Subject: Re: [LL] Clifford A. Lovelace > Hi, Heather > > Nice to hear from you, and welcome again to the group. > > I just did some quick searching in the Lovelace List archives and > through census records on Ancestry.com, and I think I may have found > your line. Check this: > > Clifford < Frank R. (+ Leona Conover) < Richard (+ Cassie Storey) < > William (+Mary Bates) < Peleg > > Mostly from Dutchess Co., NY. > > Pat Brooks, do you see this? Can you confirm? > > > At 01:55 AM 12/19/2010, you wrote: >>Hi, >> >>I am currently seeking more info on my grandfather, who has passed >>away years ago. I never knew much about him or his heritage further, >>my father's side of the family was very unknown. No one seems to >>know, that are still living of course. I was wondering if there is >>anymore info out there on Clifford A. Lovelace(Dutchess County, NY), >>born 1921/death 2002, son of Frank and Leona Conover Lovelace. >>Possibly found out more about his parents(my great grandparents), >>lineage and origin. Please let me if you could help me, it would be >>much appreciated! >> >>- Heather Lovelace > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3324 - Release Date: 12/18/10 >

Hi, Heather Nice to hear from you, and welcome again to the group. I just did some quick searching in the Lovelace List archives and through census records on Ancestry.com, and I think I may have found your line. Check this: Clifford < Frank R. (+ Leona Conover) < Richard (+ Cassie Storey) < William (+Mary Bates) < Peleg Mostly from Dutchess Co., NY. Pat Brooks, do you see this? Can you confirm? At 01:55 AM 12/19/2010, you wrote: >Hi, > >I am currently seeking more info on my grandfather, who has passed >away years ago. I never knew much about him or his heritage further, >my father's side of the family was very unknown. No one seems to >know, that are still living of course. I was wondering if there is >anymore info out there on Clifford A. Lovelace(Dutchess County, NY), >born 1921/death 2002, son of Frank and Leona Conover Lovelace. >Possibly found out more about his parents(my great grandparents), >lineage and origin. Please let me if you could help me, it would be >much appreciated! > >- Heather Lovelace

Hi Greg, Thank you for the warm welcome and the response. This is really great! Is there anything about what country they came from? I do know Lovelace is of Old English origin so, possibly England? Again thank you, this is very helpful and interesting. - Heather Lovelace --- On Sun, 12/19/10, Greg Lovelace <greglovelace@comcast.net> wrote: From: Greg Lovelace <greglovelace@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [LL] Clifford A. Lovelace To: lovelace@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, December 19, 2010, 11:14 PM Hi, Heather Nice to hear from you, and welcome again to the group. I just did some quick searching in the Lovelace List archives and through census records on Ancestry.com, and I think I may have found your line.  Check this: Clifford < Frank R. (+ Leona Conover) < Richard (+ Cassie Storey) < William (+Mary Bates) < Peleg Mostly from Dutchess Co., NY. Pat Brooks, do you see this?  Can you confirm? At 01:55 AM 12/19/2010, you wrote: >Hi, > >I am currently seeking more info on my grandfather, who has passed >away years ago. I never knew much about him or his heritage further, >my father's side of the family was very unknown. No one seems to >know, that are still living of course. I was wondering if there is >anymore info out there on Clifford A. Lovelace(Dutchess County, NY), >born 1921/death 2002, son of Frank and Leona Conover Lovelace. >Possibly found out more about his parents(my great grandparents), >lineage and origin. Please let me if you could help me, it would be >much appreciated! > >- Heather Lovelace ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mornin' Cuzzies, Weather is going to be in the 50's, 60's, 70's all week.....can you imagine! All of a sudden on Friday the traffic in Houston turned absolutely horrific.....Christmas shoppers. Remind me to avoid all that bidness! ) : Texas high school football championships televised statewide the last two daysand were they ever something! I've never seen such playing nor players. Weare birthing some new stars here in Texas. Very exciting viewing! Sundays, unfortunately, no off days for me.....so, I'm outta here to get on withsome rat killing. Y'all have a good one! ( : Buckette

Hi, I am currently seeking more info on my grandfather, who has passed away years ago. I never knew much about him or his heritage further, my father's side of the family was very unknown. No one seems to know, that are still living of course. I was wondering if there is anymore info out there on Clifford A. Lovelace(Dutchess County, NY), born 1921/death 2002, son of Frank and Leona Conover Lovelace. Possibly found out more about his parents(my great grandparents), lineage and origin. Please let me if you could help me, it would be much appreciated! - Heather Lovelace

Mornin' Cuzzies, Back down in the '30's and '40's around here.....the name of the game is thatwe just vascilate from the freezing mark into the 70's on any given winter day.One of the probs that I run into is the air inside which was always comfortable.But, I was not in charge. Ole Buckley always did that. Therefore, I don't havethe vaguest clue how to regulate all these temps changes. That is really beingDumb Blonde Dora, huh. And, since the TV remote is never outta the man'shand, I've had to learn all abt. that, too. Last week the doorbell rang and a couple of men drug in the biggest Christmastree you've ever seen! They placed it and plugged it in.....and it was all lit up w/the most beautiful lights! I just cried! Deliverers said....now, Ma'am, you don'tneed to be going on like that! Da Kid had sent it.....I was just overwhelmed! Christmas time always very nostalgic because it's family time for everyone. However, all of our lives we are always missing some family member....when wewere little, it was grandparents, and so it goes. But, it's a lovely part of ourculture and a time for renewal, hope, and joy. Y'all have a good one today! Buckette