All, These came through MyFamily.com this morning. Happy Birthdays, cuzzins! 2/3/2011 Jacki Keck 2/3/2011 Cecil Lovelace Peace, Part of the Tree, Greg

At 10:06 PM 1/26/2011, Lou Ann wrote: >I checked those data bases you mentioned that are on Rootsweb World >Connect and I can only >say be careful about what you take from them. Hey, Lou Ann As always, that goes without saying! Just use as clues for further research.... Peace, Part of the Tree, Greg

Greg and others, I checked those data bases you mentioned that are on Rootsweb World Connect and I can only say be careful about what you take from them. For one thing he has Sarah as Sarah Collier and although a long time ago it was thought she might be a Collier, I think we've pretty well discounted that. The name came from a deed to Benjamin and the wording indicated perhaps a famiy connection. However, that same man (Collier) sold a lot of land to several different people in that area and all the deeds were worded the same. It sounded like he was leaving it open in case he wanted to return to MD. Then he has two of Barton's sons as sons of Reason, Nathan and Asa, and he doesn't show all the kids Reason had, which was a goodly number. He shows the marriage of Reason to the second wife, but shows the five kids that he has as hers. They aren't. They belong to the first (unknown) wife. There may be more that I haven't found yet. I just want to caution the use of that info. I haven't checked the other three data bases. Lou Ann

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I am trying to find a link between the Hurley Lovelaces and the Tolpuddle Loveless's I did have correspondence from David Wilson (2004) but do not have his current email address.Also I did hear from Wendy Loveless. Please if you could respond I have some more information re 1650's. Lesley Wickham

Lesley, I'm still on this list but rarely have the opportunity to post because family circumstances have compelled my attention elsewhere. I have wondered if there might be a connection between the Hurley and Dorset Lovelxxxs simply on grounds of geographical proximity. If you have some new info that might point to a connection, I'd be delighted to hear it -- and I bet others on this list would as well. The email address that works for me most often is dcw1000(at)verizon(dot)net. David W. -----Original Message----- From: lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of LESLEY Wickham Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 4:23 AM To: Lovelace-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [LL] Hurley Lovelaces I am trying to find a link between the Hurley Lovelaces and the Tolpuddle Loveless's I did have correspondence from David Wilson (2004) but do not have his current email address.Also I did hear from Wendy Loveless. Please if you could respond I have some more information re 1650's. Lesley Wickham ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good morning, cuzzins Got a little time this morning, so I thought I'd pop in with a little hello. It's a (relatively) warm, foggy morning here in the soggy SC Lowcountry. We had buckets of rain yesterday, all day, which we really needed. Had we been in other parts of the east, we would've gotten bucketfuls of snow... but it doesn't do that in Charleston very often. I sometimes miss snow, but for a long time now I've been living where snow is very rare. As most of you know, I"m a big fan of NC State University basketball. Well, my pore ol' Wolfpack just can't seem to get it right. Been going on for the past 25 seasons now. The team is being coached by Sidney Lowe, who was the point guard on the 1983 National Championship team. He has a great class of freshmen who came in this season, and they have a habit of building big leads, only to squander them. Last night was a case in point. They were playing Clemson at Clemson, which is a very difficult place for a visiting team. They built a 19 point lead in the first half.... 19 points! and ended up losing by 10. A very frustrating situation, and I'm sure Coach Lowe would be pulling his hair out if he had any to pull. Sigh....looks like I'll have to take my brother-in-law's advice...and say "Wait til next year". Been doing that since 1983! Still trying to re-wet my feet in genealogy. Been reading in the National Genealogical Society Quarterly, which is a really good publication for teaching research techniques. Trouble is, it isn't very exciting, so it's pretty difficult reading, especially when it doesn't involve any of the folks you're actually researching. But I'm trying to build myself up into taking the NGS at-home study course. I think I'll get into that following the conference in May in Charleston. I'm hoping that gets me so jazzed that I'll be ready to devote a lot of time into research again. Well, that's about it from here. Family is doing OK... everyone is just following their own course, but they're alive and healthy, so we're thankful for that. Before I sign out, I'd like to get back into the "happy birthday" thing from the MyFamily site. They send out a "what's happening" post every so often, and today's post mentions birthdays on Groundhog Day for Jerry Melton and Mary Morgan. So Happy Birthday to you cuzzins! Y'all have a good one! Peace, Part of the Tree, Greg

Hey, Merilee... For beginners, go to Rootsweb's WorldConnect pages at wc.rootsweb.com, click on advanced search, and enter Richard in given name, Lovelace in surname, and Reason in father's name. You'll get 4 hits, the last two of which list children. You may be able to contact the submitters for further information. Doing the same search on Ancestry.com returns 28 different hits in member family trees. If I search Ancestry for Richard Lovelace with a birthdate of 1790 plus or minus 5 years, gives way too many hits in different types of records for me to easily sift through. There are also records at www.familysearch.org, but I haven't gone through them all to see if they are the right Richard. I did find a marriage record for his marriage to Sally Hall. These are just a few of the available online resources. I assume you've been through the list archives? How about the documents library on our website? Peace, Part of the Tree, Greg At 08:33 PM 1/25/2011, you wrote: >I'm looking for some help in getting more information about Richard >Lovelace, br about 1790, Montgomery Co. Md Son of Reason - father of Nelson >Lovelace I only have this possible birth date, do not have a wife or death >date other than he eventually went to Indiana from Kentucky. Richard would >be my 4th great grandfather. Thanks for your help and all the work you have >done in the past. I really appreciate it. > >Merilee Lovelace-Kleiber > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm looking for some help in getting more information about Richard Lovelace, br about 1790, Montgomery Co. Md Son of Reason - father of Nelson Lovelace I only have this possible birth date, do not have a wife or death date other than he eventually went to Indiana from Kentucky. Richard would be my 4th great grandfather. Thanks for your help and all the work you have done in the past. I really appreciate it. Merilee Lovelace-Kleiber

28 Jun 1907 Anna B. Dawson, dau. of Hilary J. "Jack" Dawson & Mary Jane Lovelace, md. John Robert "Bob" Hopke, son of William F. "Billy" Hopke and Mary Ann "Polly" Colbert. Anna was born 9 Feb 1867 Indian Creek, Pike CO., Mo & died 8 Apr 1936. She is buried in Fairview Cem., Ashley, Pike Co., MO No Children Mary Jane was the daughter of Brewis W. Lovelace and Martha Walker Jones. (Sent to me by Floyd Colbert)

Greg and all, Sons Zadock, Reason and Benjamin went to KY. Benjamin died there at a young age and I think that some of kids went to live with his brothers. His would be the 1817 record. There are three kids in Zadock's household in 1820 that I can't name and I'm thinking that possibly those are his brother Benjamin's kids. Zadock and Reason seem to have gone to KY shortly after 1793 and the younger brother Benjamin followed later. He was still in MD selling land in 1800, but he's in KY by the 1810 census. Old Benjamin apparently died in MD, although, we haven't found proof of his death. It appears that the sons probably left MD shortly after their father died. Elkanah is the son we can't find after 1793 in Montogomery Co MD. There was also a son Nathan who must have died young or left MD early on. No record has been found of him. Then, there's our old Barton. We know that on his way probably to NC, he ended up in a heap of trouble in VA.....and the rest is history as they say. Lou Ann

Published in The Times, Trenton, on January 25, 2011 Scott Lovelace Jr. SCOTT, Lovelace Jr. of Trenton, 74, died Jan. 19, 2011. Funeral: 11 a.m. Thursday, Provident Baptist Church, 1100 W. 2nd St., West Chester, PA. Call: 7-9 p.m. Wednesday, and 10 a.m. Thursday, Anderson Funeral Service, 300 N. Willow St., Trenton.

Greg, don't know if this helps or not, I have the following: Marriage Bonds--"B", Nelson Co., KY Brown William W. & Lovelace, Matilda, Bond 11 Feb. 1814 Married 17 Feb.1814 Signed Bond: Zadock Lovelace Consent in person Zadock Lovelace, father of Matilda Married by Moses Pierson, From Ministers return At 10:08 PM 1/24/2011, you wrote: All, I'm not really sure where we stand on the family of Benjamin Lovelace b. 1727 and his wife Sarah ?Robey? Lovelace. Specifically, do we know that Ol' Ben moved to KY and died there? And do we know the whereabouts of his son Zadock? I got two PML messages from the Countryman list that mention our Maryland guys. They involve a Henry Gunterman of KY. There were two specific records: Henry Gunterman will, dated 23 November 1813, proven 3 July 1815 Bullitt County KY: daughter Elizabeth: plantation for lifetime; after her death to divided equally between daughters Mary, Barbara, Margaret, Anne; daughter Elizabeth: all other property; son George: 100 acres adjoining my plantation; executors sons Peter Gunterman and George Gunterman; witnesses Robert Samuels, ***Zadoc LOVELACE***, D. Grabet [Bullitt County KY Will Book -----] Henry Gunterman apparised estate of Benjamin Lovelace 17 February 1817 Nelson County KY [Nelson County KY Will Book C: 516] Is the above Benjamin the father, aged ~90 yrs, or the son, aged ~43? And Zadock, son of Benjamin b. 1827, would be ~53. Any ideas out there? Is anyone's interest piqued? These posts were made by a Scott Swanson <SSwanson@butler.edu> in reference to research he is doing on the Gunterman family. As Mike Myers used to say when he played the host of "Coffee Talk" on SNL, "Discuss!" Peace, Part of the Tree, Greg ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

All, I'm not really sure where we stand on the family of Benjamin Lovelace b. 1727 and his wife Sarah ?Robey? Lovelace. Specifically, do we know that Ol' Ben moved to KY and died there? And do we know the whereabouts of his son Zadock? I got two PML messages from the Countryman list that mention our Maryland guys. They involve a Henry Gunterman of KY. There were two specific records: Henry Gunterman will, dated 23 November 1813, proven 3 July 1815 Bullitt County KY: daughter Elizabeth: plantation for lifetime; after her death to divided equally between daughters Mary, Barbara, Margaret, Anne; daughter Elizabeth: all other property; son George: 100 acres adjoining my plantation; executors sons Peter Gunterman and George Gunterman; witnesses Robert Samuels, ***Zadoc LOVELACE***, D. Grabet [Bullitt County KY Will Book -----] Henry Gunterman apparised estate of Benjamin Lovelace 17 February 1817 Nelson County KY [Nelson County KY Will Book C: 516] Is the above Benjamin the father, aged ~90 yrs, or the son, aged ~43? And Zadock, son of Benjamin b. 1827, would be ~53. Any ideas out there? Is anyone's interest piqued? These posts were made by a Scott Swanson <SSwanson@butler.edu> in reference to research he is doing on the Gunterman family. As Mike Myers used to say when he played the host of "Coffee Talk" on SNL, "Discuss!" Peace, Part of the Tree, Greg

In a message dated 1/24/11 10:37:51 AM, lovelacejackd@verizon.net writes: > I have Dyson as dying between 1850 and 1860, since he is not found on > the 1860 census.  I have Louisa as dying between 1848 and 1850, since > she is not found on Dyson's 1850 census. and William was born about Jan > 1848. > Okay. Then it makes sense that he belongs to them considering his early childhood history as told by his descendents. Thanks Lou Ann

>From Legacy.com Published in The Cincinnati Enquirer on January 24, 2011 George Desmond "Deck" , 90, of Moores Hill passed away Saturday January 22, 2011 at Dillsboro, Indiana. He married Wilma Irene Doan and later Lorene America Rayles both of whom preceded him in death. Deck was a WWII Navy Veteran, a member of the Moores Hill Baptist Church, Moores Hill Legion, a former bank director of Peoples National Bank, a former employee of Schenley's and was a farmer. He is survived by daughters Karen Elaine (Estie) Yancey of Murray, Kentucky and Vickie (Marty) Sizemore of Moores Hill, sisters Freda Denning of Aurora and Elsie Stahl of Indianapolis, Grandchildren Angie (Eric) Imler, Cindy (Todd) Anderson, Tim Lamkin and Gary (Endea) Sizemore and Great Grandchildren Erika and Morgan Imler, Hunter, Zac and Gracie Anderson and Olivia Sizemore. Funeral services will be 12 Noon, Tuesday January 25, 2011 at Sibbett-Moore Funeral Home, Moores Hill. Burial will follow in Forest Hill Cemetery at Moores Hill. Visitation also Tuesday 10-12 Noon at the funeral home. Memorials may be made to the Moores Hill Baptist Church or Forest Hill Cemetery. Sibbett-Moore Funeral Home, Moores Hill entrusted with arrangements.

>From Legacy.com: Published in The Observer-Dispatch on January 22, 2011 Warren Whitey Loveless Oneida Warren "Whitey" Loveless, 81, of 1189 Williams St., died Friday Morning, at his residence following a brief illness. He was born August 14, 1929, in Rome, the son of Charles and Rose Loveless, On April 20, 1955. He was united in marriage to the former Geraldine "Dena" Seminerio. Mrs. Loveless died September 8, 2007. Mr. Loveless had been employed as a Foreman for Eastern Rock, in Utica. He was a Veteran of the Korean War, having served with the US Marine Corps. He was a member of the Chosen Few, & the Leather Stocking Detachment of the Marine Corps League. He also was a member of the Laborers Local #35. Surviving are two sons; Charles (Brenda) Loveless, of Oneida, and Michael (Doris) Loveless, of Oneida; two daughters, Geraldine Loveless and her companion, Frank Kimball, of Oneida, and Mary and Daniel Wallace, of Oneida; and five Grandchildren. Funeral services will be held Tuesday, January 25, 2011, at 11:00 A,M. from the Coolican-McSweeney Funeral Home, 322 Washington Ave, Oneida. Calling hours will be held Monday, January 24, from 2:00 PM to 4:00 PM and 7:00 PM to 9:00 PM at the funeral home. ============================= Published in The Oneida Daily Dispatch on January 22, 2011 ONEIDA - Warren "Whitey" Loveless, 81, of 1189 Williams St., died Friday morning, Jan. 21, 2011, at his residence, following a brief illness. He was born Aug. 14, 1929 in Rome, the son of Charles and Rose Loveless. On April 20, 1955 he was united in marriage to the former Geraldine "Dena" Seminerio. Mrs. Loveless died on Sept. 8, 2007. Mr. Loveless had been employed as a foreman for Eastern Rock in Utica. He was a veteran of the Korean War having served with the United States Marine Corps. He was a life member of the Chosen Few, the Korean War Veterans of America, and was a life member of the Oneida American Legion Post 169 and the Durhamville Veterans Club. He was also a life member with the Leatherstocking Detachment of the Marine Corps League and was also a member of the Laborers Local No. 35 of Utica. Surviving are two sons and daughters-in-law, Charles and Brenda Loveless of Oneida and Michael and Doris Loveless of Oneida; two daughters and one son-in-law, Geraldine Loveless and her beloved companion, Frank Kimball of Oneida and Mary and Daniel Wallace of Oneida; five grandchildren Amanda Finnerty, Michael J. Loveless, Stephen Loveless, Casey Wallace and Melissa "Spunky" Wallace; and several nieces and nephews. Funeral services will be held on Tuesday, Jan. 25, 2011 at 11 a.m. from the Coolican-McSweeney Funeral Home, 322 Washington Ave., Oneida, with the Rev. Donna Chapman, pastor of the Whitelaw Presbyterian Church, officiating. Interment will be made in St. Patrick's Cemetery, Oneida. Friends are invited and may call on Monday, from 2-4 and 7-9 p.m. at the funeral home. Coolican-McSweeney Funeral Home Oneida, N.Y. 363-2650

I have Dyson as dying between 1850 and 1860, since he is not found on the 1860 census. I have Louisa as dying between 1848 and 1850, since she is not found on Dyson's 1850 census. and William was born about Jan 1848. Brondak@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 1/22/11 12:22:40 PM, lovelacejackd@verizon.net writes: > > > >> I made William a son of Dyson because Dyson has a two year old son on >> his 1850 census and the son is the only two year old William in Missouri >> in 1850. >> >> > > You're probably right. Do you have any info on the deaths of Dyson and > his wife? > Lou Ann > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- Jack D. Lovelace

>From Legacy.com Published in the Press-Register on January 22, 2011 James Edward Lovelace, Sr., LOVELACE, SR. James Edward Lovelace, Sr., age 90, of Semmes, AL passed away Wednesday morning, January 19, 2011 at Providence Hospital, Mobile. Born April 12, 1920 in Richburg, MS. to Ed and Della Lovelace. He served in the U.S. Navy during World War II and was a retired member of International Brotherhood of Boilermakers Local #112 of Mobile, AL. He was an original member and co-founder of the "Lovelace Gospel Singers" quartet. He is preceded in death by his first wife of 67 years, Agnes Lovelace (Momma Aggie) and his second wife, Estelle Goodman; two brothers, William D. Lovelace and Clarence R. Lovelace, two sisters, Bonnie J. Caton and Jewel Morrison. He is survived by five children, James E. (Jenni) Lovelace, Jr. of Satsuma, AL; Patricia (Roy) Dicks of Mt. Sterling, AL; Mary Christian, of Satsuma, AL; Linda Jenkins, of Malcolm, AL. and Rita (Tink) Ezell of Lavaca, AL; eight grandchildren, twelve great-grandchildren, six great-great-grandchildren; and one brother, Herbert H. (I'Olun) Lovelace, of Wilmer, AL. Mr. Lovelace attended Calvary Temple Assembly in Saraland, AL. He leaves behind many church friends and family who will miss him dearly. Funeral services will be held from the chapel of Radney Funeral Home, Saraland on Monday, January 24 at 12:00 p.m. Visitation will be 5:00 pm. to 8:00 p.m. Sunday evening at the funeral home. Interment will be at Forest Lawn Memorial Gardens. Condolences may be offered at www.radneyfuneral home-saraland.com.

Mornin' Cuzzies, A little fresca around the edges...low 50's. Sun is out....pretty. I really bombed over the game yesterday.....Da Kid told me that,and maybe I assumed more than he was telling me. Anyhoo,really look forward to the shoot outs today. Da Kid is running try outs for the Little League teams that playout of the fields where he teaches. Everyone gets in a completelather over these things.....coaches jockeying for the best players.Kids and parents jockeying for the best teams to get on. I'llswear.....as an ole coach I view these thingees as having gottencompletely out of hand. The children no longer learn any of their family's value systemsor about the world from their parents at the dinner table. Thereis no more dinner table.....everyone is out playing sports at that hour. And, the odds are.....one in a gazillion will make it. So, I now fail tosee what benefits are coming from playing the game. It's all beengrossly overdone. However, as bad as that all is, it beats the insane texting that'sconsumed the world! Have a good one! Enjoy the games! Buckette