Jack, Remind me why you took all those other SC guys off as sons of Joseph and Sarah.  I still have them as brothers of Hazel. Lou Ann -----Original Message----- From: Jack D. Lovelace via <lovelace@rootsweb.com> To: Lenny Darnell <lrdarnell@gmail.com>; lovelace <lovelace@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, Jun 25, 2016 3:34 pm Subject: Re: [LL] Question... Lenny, I do not have a Hazzel born in 1770 in my database. Do you have parents? I do have a Hazel Lovelace born 31 Mar 1766 in Rock Creek, MD. He is the son of Joseph Lovelace and Sarah Robey. I do not have any other children for Joseph & Sarah. On 6/25/2016 9:57 AM, Lenny Darnell via wrote: > Hi team > > Is Hazzel 1770 known to be a brother of both James T and Issac? I have > found an autosomal match with him and Robert Cates through > *jpgomillion* > <http://community.ancestry.com/profile.aspx?mba=01304F7D-0001-0000-0000-000000000000> > > Lenny -- Jack D. Lovelace ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jack, Here is the tree/profile that Robert Cates has a DNA Match to: http://person.ancestry.com/tree/76163274/person/38436822105/facts The parents are listed as - William Lovelace 1720–1815 <http://person.ancestry.com/tree/76163274/person/38436835486> - <http://person.ancestry.com/tree/76163274/person/38436835487> <http://person.ancestry.com/tree/76163274/person/38436835487> <http://person.ancestry.com/tree/76163274/person/38436835487>Margaret Beall <http://person.ancestry.com/tree/76163274/person/38436835487> 1727–1803 <http://person.ancestry.com/tree/76163274/person/38436835487> - ​They have as a Sibling to Hazzel, James Lovelace, but not Isaac. James LOVELACE 1771–1846 <http://person.ancestry.com/tree/76163274/person/38436835499> - ​ I can't find any public trees that list Isaac and James as brothers nor any that have John 1745 as their father (William is more common). My focus is the DNA research, so any help in getting the trees straight is very very much appreciated. I started a Love**** tree built from public trees, but there are so many conflicts I don't really have anything useful. I'd gladly work with people here to get the best guess of the MD group tree on WikiTree or Geni Lenny On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 1:53 PM, brondak via <lovelace@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Jack, > Remind me why you took all those other SC guys off as sons of Joseph and > Sarah. I still have them as brothers of Hazel. > Lou Ann > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jack D. Lovelace via <lovelace@rootsweb.com> > To: Lenny Darnell <lrdarnell@gmail.com>; lovelace <lovelace@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sat, Jun 25, 2016 3:34 pm > Subject: Re: [LL] Question... > > Lenny, > > I do not have a Hazzel born in 1770 in my database. Do you have parents? > > I do have a Hazel Lovelace born 31 Mar 1766 in Rock Creek, MD. He is > the son of Joseph Lovelace and Sarah Robey. I do not have any other > children for Joseph & Sarah. > > On 6/25/2016 9:57 AM, Lenny Darnell via wrote: > > Hi team > > > > Is Hazzel 1770 known to be a brother of both James T and Issac? I have > > found an autosomal match with him and Robert Cates through > > *jpgomillion* > > < > http://community.ancestry.com/profile.aspx?mba=01304F7D-0001-0000-0000-000000000000 > > > > > > Lenny > > > -- > > Jack D. Lovelace > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Lenny, I do not have a Hazzel born in 1770 in my database. Do you have parents? I do have a Hazel Lovelace born 31 Mar 1766 in Rock Creek, MD. He is the son of Joseph Lovelace and Sarah Robey. I do not have any other children for Joseph & Sarah. On 6/25/2016 9:57 AM, Lenny Darnell via wrote: > Hi team > > Is Hazzel 1770 known to be a brother of both James T and Issac? I have > found an autosomal match with him and Robert Cates through > *jpgomillion* > <http://community.ancestry.com/profile.aspx?mba=01304F7D-0001-0000-0000-000000000000> > > Lenny -- Jack D. Lovelace

Not 100 percent certain, but I believe Mr. John G. Lovelace was African-American, and his ancestors are the following: John G. Lovelace (b. 1927, Lauderdale County, AL; d. 2016, Lauderdale County, AL) - Henry Mason Lovelace (b.1904, Lauderdale County, AL; d. 1978, Lake County, Illinois) - - Samuel L. Lovelace (b. 1849, Lauderdale County, AL; d. 1921, Lauderdale County, AL) - - - Robert "Bob" Lovelace (b. abt 1820, South Carolina; d. after 1880, probably Lauderdale County, AL) Greg -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 6/23/16, bgsroots via <lovelace@rootsweb.com> wrote: Subject: [LL] Obituary of John Lovelace - AL >IL To: "Lovelace List" <LOVELACE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, June 23, 2016, 5:28 PM John Lovelace(1927 - 2016) John G. Lovelace, age 89, of North Chicago, IL passed away on June 16, 2016 in Florence, AL surrounded by his family. He was born in Florence, AL on January 16, 1927. He was retired from U.S. Steel Waukegan Works. He served his country with the U.S. Army. He is survived by 2 sons, John (Sylvia) Lovelace, Jr., of Chicago, IL, Clarence (Candy) Luster of Florence, AL; a daughter, Joyce Green of Florence, AL; 8 grandchildren; and a host of other relatives and friends. He was preceded in death by his wife, Bertha Lovelace. A Celebration of His Life Service will be held at 11:00 A.M. Thursday, June 23, 2016 at the Bradshaw & Range Funeral Home, 2513 W. Dugdale Road, Waukegan, IL. Interment will be at North Shore Garden of Memories Cemetery, North Chicago, IL. Visitation will begin at 10:00 A.M. 847-662-3553. Please sign guestbook at www.bradshaw-range.com Funeral Home Bradshaw & Range - Waukegan 2513 Dugdale Road  Waukegan, IL 60085 847 662 3553 Published in the Lake County News Sun from June 21 to June 22, 2016

Hi team Is Hazzel 1770 known to be a brother of both James T and Issac? I have found an autosomal match with him and Robert Cates through *jpgomillion* <http://community.ancestry.com/profile.aspx?mba=01304F7D-0001-0000-0000-000000000000> Lenny On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Lenny Darnell <lrdarnell@gmail.com> wrote: > Lisa, > > I didn't find a significant match to Tom, but I did to his cousin Bob. > It's not a segment I have another match on, so I've noted it for future > matching. > > Thank you! > > On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 7:37 PM, Lenny Darnell <lrdarnell@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Thank you Lisa. I'll check it out when I get home. Way cool! >> >> Sent from my aFone. Please excuse typos and insults. >> On Jun 24, 2016 7:15 PM, "Lisa Gorrell" <snrylisa@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Sorry, haven't been to the site in awhile. Looks like there is a new kit >>> no. T667349 >>> >>> Lisa >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 7:12 PM, Lisa Gorrell <snrylisa@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> My grandmother's kit is F173637. Her line: >>>> Pansy Lancaster > Lela Ann Loveless & Geo Warren Lancaster > Ebenezer >>>> Loveless & Eliza Rodgers > Jesse Loveless & Elizabeth Nixon > James >>>> Loveless & Linna Hughes >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Lenny Darnell <lrdarnell@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Lisa. Are you on gedmatch? I'd love to see if you match Tom Cates. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my aFone. Please excuse typos and insults. >>>>> On Jun 24, 2016 6:55 PM, "Lisa Gorrell via" <lovelace@rootsweb.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> A lurker, too. Part of James Loveless & Linna Hughes line. >>>>>> >>>>>> Lisa Gorrell >>>>>> Martinez CA >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Betsy Loveless via < >>>>>> lovelace@rootsweb.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> > I am a lurker. But read them. If I remember right my line is part >>>>>> of >>>>>> > Rhode Island side. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > On Jun 24, 2016, at 6:50 PM, Margaret Lovelace via < >>>>>> > lovelace@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > I'm also more of a "lurker" but I am here! >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > >> On Jun 24, 2016, at 9:04 AM, Andrew Lovelace via < >>>>>> lovelace@rootsweb.com> >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> I'm here.... but as usual, I'm just lurking. >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> Andy >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> > >> From: lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: >>>>>> > lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Greg Lovelace via >>>>>> > >> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 7:57 AM >>>>>> > >> To: lovelace@rootsweb.com >>>>>> > >> Subject: Re: [LL] Question... >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> Bob Stewart said: >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> "I feel like I’m in the twilight zone and the last person on the >>>>>> > list.... Is anyone out there?" >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> ------------------------------- >>>>>> > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>>> the >>>>>> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > ------------------------------- >>>>>> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>>> the >>>>>> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > ------------------------------- >>>>>> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>>> the >>>>>> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >

Lisa, I didn't find a significant match to Tom, but I did to his cousin Bob. It's not a segment I have another match on, so I've noted it for future matching. Thank you! On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 7:37 PM, Lenny Darnell <lrdarnell@gmail.com> wrote: > Thank you Lisa. I'll check it out when I get home. Way cool! > > Sent from my aFone. Please excuse typos and insults. > On Jun 24, 2016 7:15 PM, "Lisa Gorrell" <snrylisa@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Sorry, haven't been to the site in awhile. Looks like there is a new kit >> no. T667349 >> >> Lisa >> >> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 7:12 PM, Lisa Gorrell <snrylisa@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> My grandmother's kit is F173637. Her line: >>> Pansy Lancaster > Lela Ann Loveless & Geo Warren Lancaster > Ebenezer >>> Loveless & Eliza Rodgers > Jesse Loveless & Elizabeth Nixon > James >>> Loveless & Linna Hughes >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Lenny Darnell <lrdarnell@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Lisa. Are you on gedmatch? I'd love to see if you match Tom Cates. >>>> >>>> Sent from my aFone. Please excuse typos and insults. >>>> On Jun 24, 2016 6:55 PM, "Lisa Gorrell via" <lovelace@rootsweb.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> A lurker, too. Part of James Loveless & Linna Hughes line. >>>>> >>>>> Lisa Gorrell >>>>> Martinez CA >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Betsy Loveless via < >>>>> lovelace@rootsweb.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> > I am a lurker. But read them. If I remember right my line is part of >>>>> > Rhode Island side. >>>>> > >>>>> > Sent from my iPhone >>>>> > >>>>> > > On Jun 24, 2016, at 6:50 PM, Margaret Lovelace via < >>>>> > lovelace@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>>>> > > >>>>> > > I'm also more of a "lurker" but I am here! >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Sent from my iPhone >>>>> > > >>>>> > >> On Jun 24, 2016, at 9:04 AM, Andrew Lovelace via < >>>>> lovelace@rootsweb.com> >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> I'm here.... but as usual, I'm just lurking. >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> Andy >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> -----Original Message----- >>>>> > >> From: lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: >>>>> > lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Greg Lovelace via >>>>> > >> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 7:57 AM >>>>> > >> To: lovelace@rootsweb.com >>>>> > >> Subject: Re: [LL] Question... >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> Bob Stewart said: >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> "I feel like I’m in the twilight zone and the last person on the >>>>> > list.... Is anyone out there?" >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> ------------------------------- >>>>> > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>> the >>>>> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > ------------------------------- >>>>> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>> the >>>>> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > ------------------------------- >>>>> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>> the >>>>> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>> >>

I'm also more of a "lurker" but I am here! Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 24, 2016, at 9:04 AM, Andrew Lovelace via <lovelace@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > I'm here.... but as usual, I'm just lurking. > > Andy > > -----Original Message----- > From: lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Greg Lovelace via > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 7:57 AM > To: lovelace@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LL] Question... > > Bob Stewart said: > > "I feel like I’m in the twilight zone and the last person on the list.... Is anyone out there?" > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Further indication that Elkanah Watson in KY might be Lucy Watson Lovelace's brother is that in 1790 he was on a MD census with 5 daughters. In KY his daughter Sarah married a Joseph Craycroft. The Craycrofts were from Prince George's/Frederick Counties in MD. Families traveling to KY together? Maybe. Also what's interesting is that Thomas Craycroft married first a Rebecca Mann in MD. Her family was supposedly from MA where I found the original Elkanah Watson. Connection? More families traveling together? Who knows. Needs more work. Lou Ann

Has anyone ever noticed that both Lucy Watson and husband Barton (our old horsethief Barton) both had brothers named Elkanah who were both born at around the same time. Makes me wonder what connections the Watsons and the wife or mother of our Benjamin had. The mothers of both Lucy and Barton were named Sarah, so it isn't likely they were sisters, but....I still can't help but wonder about the name Elkanah. I have found Elkanah Watsons going back to the 1600's in Plymouth MA, but I haven't found s connection to them and the MD Watsons....at least not yet. I've also found Watsons living around the Cantrells in PA (remember Lucy took up with Abraham Cantrell) and I wonder if the Cantrells and Watsons were acquainted before they all moved out of PA, with Lucy's family going to MD and the Cantrells to VA then NC. One of the othet Cantrells also married a Watson, either a brother or cousin to Abraham. I don;t know what all that signifies, but it is food for thought and one avenue of research to help clarify these families. By the way, the only Elkanah Watson I have found anywhere after the 1876 census in MD is one in KY who has a daughter Sarah born in MD. No proof, but he very well might be Lucy's brother, since her brother had both mother and sister named Sarah. Lou Ann

I am a lurker. But read them. If I remember right my line is part of Rhode Island side. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 24, 2016, at 6:50 PM, Margaret Lovelace via <lovelace@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > I'm also more of a "lurker" but I am here! > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 24, 2016, at 9:04 AM, Andrew Lovelace via <lovelace@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >> I'm here.... but as usual, I'm just lurking. >> >> Andy >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Greg Lovelace via >> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 7:57 AM >> To: lovelace@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [LL] Question... >> >> Bob Stewart said: >> >> "I feel like I’m in the twilight zone and the last person on the list.... Is anyone out there?" >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Lisa. I'll check it out when I get home. Way cool! Sent from my aFone. Please excuse typos and insults. On Jun 24, 2016 7:15 PM, "Lisa Gorrell" <snrylisa@gmail.com> wrote: > Sorry, haven't been to the site in awhile. Looks like there is a new kit > no. T667349 > > Lisa > > On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 7:12 PM, Lisa Gorrell <snrylisa@gmail.com> wrote: > >> My grandmother's kit is F173637. Her line: >> Pansy Lancaster > Lela Ann Loveless & Geo Warren Lancaster > Ebenezer >> Loveless & Eliza Rodgers > Jesse Loveless & Elizabeth Nixon > James >> Loveless & Linna Hughes >> >> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Lenny Darnell <lrdarnell@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Lisa. Are you on gedmatch? I'd love to see if you match Tom Cates. >>> >>> Sent from my aFone. Please excuse typos and insults. >>> On Jun 24, 2016 6:55 PM, "Lisa Gorrell via" <lovelace@rootsweb.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> A lurker, too. Part of James Loveless & Linna Hughes line. >>>> >>>> Lisa Gorrell >>>> Martinez CA >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Betsy Loveless via < >>>> lovelace@rootsweb.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> > I am a lurker. But read them. If I remember right my line is part of >>>> > Rhode Island side. >>>> > >>>> > Sent from my iPhone >>>> > >>>> > > On Jun 24, 2016, at 6:50 PM, Margaret Lovelace via < >>>> > lovelace@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>>> > > >>>> > > I'm also more of a "lurker" but I am here! >>>> > > >>>> > > Sent from my iPhone >>>> > > >>>> > >> On Jun 24, 2016, at 9:04 AM, Andrew Lovelace via < >>>> lovelace@rootsweb.com> >>>> > wrote: >>>> > >> >>>> > >> I'm here.... but as usual, I'm just lurking. >>>> > >> >>>> > >> Andy >>>> > >> >>>> > >> -----Original Message----- >>>> > >> From: lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: >>>> > lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Greg Lovelace via >>>> > >> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 7:57 AM >>>> > >> To: lovelace@rootsweb.com >>>> > >> Subject: Re: [LL] Question... >>>> > >> >>>> > >> Bob Stewart said: >>>> > >> >>>> > >> "I feel like I’m in the twilight zone and the last person on the >>>> > list.... Is anyone out there?" >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> ------------------------------- >>>> > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > ------------------------------- >>>> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > ------------------------------- >>>> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >

Sorry, haven't been to the site in awhile. Looks like there is a new kit no. T667349 Lisa On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 7:12 PM, Lisa Gorrell <snrylisa@gmail.com> wrote: > My grandmother's kit is F173637. Her line: > Pansy Lancaster > Lela Ann Loveless & Geo Warren Lancaster > Ebenezer > Loveless & Eliza Rodgers > Jesse Loveless & Elizabeth Nixon > James > Loveless & Linna Hughes > > On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Lenny Darnell <lrdarnell@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Lisa. Are you on gedmatch? I'd love to see if you match Tom Cates. >> >> Sent from my aFone. Please excuse typos and insults. >> On Jun 24, 2016 6:55 PM, "Lisa Gorrell via" <lovelace@rootsweb.com> >> wrote: >> >>> A lurker, too. Part of James Loveless & Linna Hughes line. >>> >>> Lisa Gorrell >>> Martinez CA >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Betsy Loveless via < >>> lovelace@rootsweb.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> > I am a lurker. But read them. If I remember right my line is part of >>> > Rhode Island side. >>> > >>> > Sent from my iPhone >>> > >>> > > On Jun 24, 2016, at 6:50 PM, Margaret Lovelace via < >>> > lovelace@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>> > > >>> > > I'm also more of a "lurker" but I am here! >>> > > >>> > > Sent from my iPhone >>> > > >>> > >> On Jun 24, 2016, at 9:04 AM, Andrew Lovelace via < >>> lovelace@rootsweb.com> >>> > wrote: >>> > >> >>> > >> I'm here.... but as usual, I'm just lurking. >>> > >> >>> > >> Andy >>> > >> >>> > >> -----Original Message----- >>> > >> From: lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: >>> > lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Greg Lovelace via >>> > >> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 7:57 AM >>> > >> To: lovelace@rootsweb.com >>> > >> Subject: Re: [LL] Question... >>> > >> >>> > >> Bob Stewart said: >>> > >> >>> > >> "I feel like I’m in the twilight zone and the last person on the >>> > list.... Is anyone out there?" >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> ------------------------------- >>> > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > ------------------------------- >>> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ------------------------------- >>> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >

My grandmother's kit is F173637. Her line: Pansy Lancaster > Lela Ann Loveless & Geo Warren Lancaster > Ebenezer Loveless & Eliza Rodgers > Jesse Loveless & Elizabeth Nixon > James Loveless & Linna Hughes On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Lenny Darnell <lrdarnell@gmail.com> wrote: > Lisa. Are you on gedmatch? I'd love to see if you match Tom Cates. > > Sent from my aFone. Please excuse typos and insults. > On Jun 24, 2016 6:55 PM, "Lisa Gorrell via" <lovelace@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >> A lurker, too. Part of James Loveless & Linna Hughes line. >> >> Lisa Gorrell >> Martinez CA >> >> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Betsy Loveless via < >> lovelace@rootsweb.com> >> wrote: >> >> > I am a lurker. But read them. If I remember right my line is part of >> > Rhode Island side. >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> > > On Jun 24, 2016, at 6:50 PM, Margaret Lovelace via < >> > lovelace@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> > > >> > > I'm also more of a "lurker" but I am here! >> > > >> > > Sent from my iPhone >> > > >> > >> On Jun 24, 2016, at 9:04 AM, Andrew Lovelace via < >> lovelace@rootsweb.com> >> > wrote: >> > >> >> > >> I'm here.... but as usual, I'm just lurking. >> > >> >> > >> Andy >> > >> >> > >> -----Original Message----- >> > >> From: lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: >> > lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Greg Lovelace via >> > >> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 7:57 AM >> > >> To: lovelace@rootsweb.com >> > >> Subject: Re: [LL] Question... >> > >> >> > >> Bob Stewart said: >> > >> >> > >> "I feel like I’m in the twilight zone and the last person on the >> > list.... Is anyone out there?" >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> ------------------------------- >> > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > >> > > >> > > ------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I am a descendant of Isaac Loveless. He and James are brothers.  Alton Alton and Delois LovelessFWB PublicationsEnchanted Acres 1006 Rayme DriveColumbus, Ohio 43207 740-777-1944 Office 573-330-7728 Cell   On Friday, June 24, 2016 2:44 PM, Lenny Darnell via <lovelace@rootsweb.com> wrote: Public Trees have a Mary Polly Hughes 1776 (of George Hughes and Jemima Timmons) married to Isaac Loveless 1773 Her sister Lina Hughes 1773 was married to James Thomas Loveless 1771. Are Isaac and James Thomas brothers?  There seems not to be a consensus in the trees. My father-in-law Tom Cates whose Y DNA test confirms him as a Lovel*** has a strong DNA match on Ancestry to a family that descends from Mary Polly Hughes/Isaac Loveless.  His closest Y DNA match is to a descendant of James Thomas Loveless 1771, Any ideas or insights? Does anybody know J.J. (administered by micawber) <http://community.ancestry.com/profile.aspx?mba=00684B63-0000-0000-0000-000000000000> on AncestryDNA (this is the Hughes/Loveless DNA match to Tom Cates?  I would be much obliged if we could get J.J. over to GedMatch to do Chromosome mapping. Thanks Lenny On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 10:53 AM, <Smeltzer@lists3.rootsweb.com> wrote: > Lou Ann, Greg, and members of the Lovelace List, > > I want to know what happened to Samuel, son of old Barton, too. > > Becky Smeltzer > > -----Original Message----- > From: lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of brondak via > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 11:12 AM > To: greg@part-of-the-tree.com; lovelace@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LL] Question... > > I'm still trying to figure out what happened to our Samuel (son of old > Barton) and still trying to prove which of the MD Lovelaces our Benjamin b > 1727 came from. > > Lou Ann > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Greg Lovelace via <lovelace@rootsweb.com> > To: lovelace <lovelace@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Fri, Jun 24, 2016 9:58 am > Subject: Re: [LL] Question... > > > Bob Stewart said: "I feel like I’m in the twilight zone and the last > person on the list.... Is anyone out there?" Hey, Bob.... Yeah, I feel your > pain! We have 229 subscribed email addresses as of when I just now checked. > Seems there could be more chatter on the list... I agree with what Cuzzin > Nancy said: "Seems the lists are dying, and there's no collaborative > efforts to replace them." Nancy and I have been tossing around ideas over > the past couple years about ways to re-energize the collaborative effort > that once made this list one of the best genealogy surname lists out there. > Yeah, all that collaboration is still in the archives for everyone to > access and read, but not much new stuff is being added, other than the > steady stream of obits that Bob, Wanda Rabb, and others post. Occasionally, > as time permits, I try to do a little research to take the lines of those > deceased cousins back as far as I can with online resources. But where are > the rest of the 229 subscribers? Surely you don't all have your lines back > to the homeland, wherever that might be. If you do, we'd really love to > hear about your research and see what sources you've used to make that > connection. Please do share! I don't know... Maybe there's no way to get > that special feeling back that we had in the late '90s and early 2000s. But > I'd sure like to see more collaboration on the lines that aren't confirmed > very far back. Does anyone else have that desire? Do you know of other > forums that might work better than the seemingly out-dated email lists? > Back in the day, it was my job as admin to do the daily post to the list... > Now I just don't have the time, and those posts DID take time to put > together. Now the forum has evolved into a blog, and I surely don't have > time for that. Would anyone like to step up and take a stab at reviving the > daily posts? I'm open to suggestions, and I'd like everyone who regularly > reads and posts to the Lovelace List to weigh in.  There is much work left > to do... How can we work together to further our various family h > istories? Peace, Part of the Tree, Greg ------------------------------- To > unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Lisa. Are you on gedmatch? I'd love to see if you match Tom Cates. Sent from my aFone. Please excuse typos and insults. On Jun 24, 2016 6:55 PM, "Lisa Gorrell via" <lovelace@rootsweb.com> wrote: > A lurker, too. Part of James Loveless & Linna Hughes line. > > Lisa Gorrell > Martinez CA > > On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Betsy Loveless via <lovelace@rootsweb.com > > > wrote: > > > I am a lurker. But read them. If I remember right my line is part of > > Rhode Island side. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Jun 24, 2016, at 6:50 PM, Margaret Lovelace via < > > lovelace@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > > > I'm also more of a "lurker" but I am here! > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > >> On Jun 24, 2016, at 9:04 AM, Andrew Lovelace via < > lovelace@rootsweb.com> > > wrote: > > >> > > >> I'm here.... but as usual, I'm just lurking. > > >> > > >> Andy > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: > > lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Greg Lovelace via > > >> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 7:57 AM > > >> To: lovelace@rootsweb.com > > >> Subject: Re: [LL] Question... > > >> > > >> Bob Stewart said: > > >> > > >> "I feel like I’m in the twilight zone and the last person on the > > list.... Is anyone out there?" > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

A lurker, too. Part of James Loveless & Linna Hughes line. Lisa Gorrell Martinez CA On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Betsy Loveless via <lovelace@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I am a lurker. But read them. If I remember right my line is part of > Rhode Island side. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 24, 2016, at 6:50 PM, Margaret Lovelace via < > lovelace@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > I'm also more of a "lurker" but I am here! > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Jun 24, 2016, at 9:04 AM, Andrew Lovelace via <lovelace@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > >> > >> I'm here.... but as usual, I'm just lurking. > >> > >> Andy > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: > lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Greg Lovelace via > >> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 7:57 AM > >> To: lovelace@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: Re: [LL] Question... > >> > >> Bob Stewart said: > >> > >> "I feel like I’m in the twilight zone and the last person on the > list.... Is anyone out there?" > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Lou Ann, Greg, and members of the Lovelace List, I want to know what happened to Samuel, son of old Barton, too. Becky Smeltzer -----Original Message----- From: lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of brondak via Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 11:12 AM To: greg@part-of-the-tree.com; lovelace@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LL] Question... I'm still trying to figure out what happened to our Samuel (son of old Barton) and still trying to prove which of the MD Lovelaces our Benjamin b 1727 came from. Lou Ann -----Original Message----- From: Greg Lovelace via <lovelace@rootsweb.com> To: lovelace <lovelace@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Jun 24, 2016 9:58 am Subject: Re: [LL] Question... Bob Stewart said: "I feel like I’m in the twilight zone and the last person on the list.... Is anyone out there?" Hey, Bob.... Yeah, I feel your pain! We have 229 subscribed email addresses as of when I just now checked. Seems there could be more chatter on the list... I agree with what Cuzzin Nancy said: "Seems the lists are dying, and there's no collaborative efforts to replace them." Nancy and I have been tossing around ideas over the past couple years about ways to re-energize the collaborative effort that once made this list one of the best genealogy surname lists out there. Yeah, all that collaboration is still in the archives for everyone to access and read, but not much new stuff is being added, other than the steady stream of obits that Bob, Wanda Rabb, and others post. Occasionally, as time permits, I try to do a little research to take the lines of those deceased cousins back as far as I can with online resources. But where are the rest of the 229 subscribers? S! urely you don't all have your lines back to the homeland, wherever that might be. If you do, we'd really love to hear about your research and see what sources you've used to make that connection. Please do share! I don't know... Maybe there's no way to get that special feeling back that we had in the late '90s and early 2000s. But I'd sure like to see more collaboration on the lines that aren't confirmed very far back. Does anyone else have that desire? Do you know of other forums that might work better than the seemingly out-dated email lists? Back in the day, it was my job as admin to do the daily post to the list... Now I just don't have the time, and those posts DID take time to put together. Now the forum has evolved into a blog, and I surely don't have time for that. Would anyone like to step up and take a stab at reviving the daily posts? I'm open to suggestions, and I'd like everyone who regularly reads and posts to the Lovelace List to weigh in. There is much work! left to do... How can we work together to further our various! family h istories? Peace, Part of the Tree, Greg ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm a lurker as well, but enjoy reading the emails!! We moved last month from Las Vegas to Rathdrum in the beautiful Idaho Panhandle and are so happy to be out of the desert!! Lisa Music (married to Gerald Music whose father Charles was a Loveless named Music)

I love seeing all the communications even though I haven't had time to research my branch of the family. My father's DNA is part of the collection! My appreciation goes to all those who generously share information! Cindy (Loveless) Cary -----Original Message----- From: lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MAX WESTBROOK via Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 11:19 AM To: Greg Lovelace Subject: EXTERNAL: [LL] Roots Greg, You are appreciated. I follow your posts and thank you for your efforts. Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message This e-mail transmission, including any attachments, is intended only for the individual(s) or entity(ies) named in the e-mail address and may contain confidential or proprietary information that may be subject to protections afforded to certain types of confidential and/or proprietary information, including attorney-client privilege. If you have any reason to believe that you are not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, use, disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance upon the contents of this e-mail transmission, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately, so that Endo can arrange for proper delivery, and then please permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail transmission from your system and any printout thereof. Thank you.

Bob and all Lovel***, Never fear, I read every email, even those not about my line... which happens to be all of them! My Loveless roots from England > Rhode Island > New York > Vermont > New York > Illinois is not a common one. Those of you from the southern lines are so fortunate to have so many involved. The descendants from Ariel Corbin and Eliza Gray Loveless have scattered to the four winds and apparently are not interested in genealogy. I have been on this list since 1998 and I treasure every moment. This list helped me connect to my gr-gr-grandparents, John Wesley and Rachel E. Loveless Fletcher. It really spurred me on to further research, which I have done almost every day since (not always on the Loveless line!). Through this list, I found out that Lou Ann's cousins, Charles and (son Michael) Loveless, live in the same neighborhood my hub and I moved into last year. Where else would I have found out that!?? The leadership by Greg is admirable and so much more personable and informative than any other list I have ever been on. And though less active in the past, this list is WAY more active than any other to which I am subscribed. Let's keep on keepin' on! Your cousin from somewhere in time, Bonnie Fletcher Eggert -----Original Message----- From: bgsroots via <lovelace@rootsweb.com> To: Lovelace List <LOVELACE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, Jun 23, 2016 4:45 pm Subject: [LL] Question... I feel like I’m in the twilight zone and the last person on the list.... Is anyone out there?Bob. -------------------------------To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message