Lenny, For clarification the Newberry five are Hazel, James (who somehow picked up the name Thomas added to his name, but which probably isn't right), Isaac, John (who may or may not have the middle name of Milton) and William (about whom less is known than the others. They were all originally in Newberry and four moved out. William to Laurens Co (where John is also found for one census year) and the others to Greenville Co. James and Isaac stayed in Greenville and john went to Alabama after some time in Greenville also. I continue to believe they were all brothers, but if proof can be found that they were not, I will concede. Lou Ann

Wade, Thanks for the info especially on James. I don't know where the name Thomas csme from for his name and in my data base, I have Thomas in question. I think I'll just remove it entirely. I've always wondered where that came from. Most didn't have middle names back then. James Isaac, however, was proven by a document from his time in GA. Lou Ann

Here are prob. the three generations prior to James (1771) of which I'd love to get proof. (If it's for sale, I'll pay.) Info. is from bits and pieces picked up on the list and elsewhere. 1. Thomas Lovelace, b. Bet 1664-1665 Talbot, MD, d. before 1753 in Charles County, MD. m. Eleanor? 1649 - 1674 in Charles Cty, MD. 2. John Lovelace b. 1689 Port Tobacco, Charles County, MD. d. unk., Charles County, MD. m. 1711 Mary, LNU, b. 1691, d. between 1730 and 1741 in Charles County, MD (John later m. Nancy Jane Bohanan) 3. Joseph Lovelace b. 1722 Port Tobacco, Charles County, MD. d. <1790 in Newberry Dist., SC. m. Sarah Robey, prob. In Charles County, MD. Joseph is probably the father of the Newberry Five. -----Original Message----- From: lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Wade Lovelace via Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 1:29 AM To: Brondak <Brondak@aol.com>; lovelace <lovelace@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [LL] The Newberry Five Yes Lenny, I did have a DNA test done. I found a record that Hazel was buried at Lower Dunkin Creek Baptist Church Cemetery. So one summer day I took my wife and five children to the Cemetery to see if I could find any Loveless' Graves. Unfortunatey, we found nothing. The cemetery was very large and the Graves were broken with tombstones pushed over and weeds all grown up on and around them. Many had snakes going in and out of them. My. Kids said it reminded them of Michael Jackson's Thriller. Leaving the cemetery, I drove to Whitmire, South Carolina and stopped at an old mom and pop store to get a Coke. While I was there I talked to the owners of the store and told them about our experience at the cemetery and they told me that the Cemetery had been abandoned when the church moved to become the First Baptist Church of Whitmire. They also safe time to visit the Cemetery was in the Winter. They also told about a local man who they believed knew a lot about the church. As he only lived about six houses away, I went to.his door. I told him about what I was looking for and he went into his house and brought out the Original Church Records for Lower Dunkin Creek He would not let me take them to copy and I probably would not allowed a total stranger to take them either. He did however, allow me to sit on his porch and read them for about an hour. I, by the way do not believe James was named James Thomas. All records I have seen list him as James Lovelace or James Loveless. James did have a son named Thomas and his youngest son was named James T. This was James Timmons Loveless and in the Gambrell records of his wife's family he is listed as Timmons Loveless. Wade T. Lovelace On Jun 26, 2016 1:48 AM, "Brondak via" <lovelace@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Jack (and all)....A little more on the Newberry Five (thanks Wade, for that > name. It helps distinguish them from all the other SC Lovelaces really > well. Why didn't I ever think of calling them that? lol) > > Another thing I looked at determining that these five were brothers > were naming patterns: > > Hazel: Six sons, one named Joseph (for his father) one James and one > William (for his brothers?) > > James: Eight sons, one William, one Hazel, (for brothers?) > > Isaac: 11 children one son Joseph and one daughter Sarah (for > parents?) son James (for brother?) > > William: I'm not 100% sure of his children, but I think he had a William > and a James > > John: Six sons, one named James Isaac (for two brothers?) and one William. > Note Jamea Isaac or also known as James of Tishomingo is not 100% > proven as a son of John, but I think he might be. The name James Isaac is proven. > > James might just have been a real popular name OR the brothers may all > have really liked him above the rest.. > > James and Isaac married sisters. > We don't know the surnames of the wives of Hazel, John or William > Hazel was the only one who stayed in newberry. > John, James & Isaac went to Greenville. > William to Laurens Co where John was also found in 1810. > > Of the five, only John left SC and went to AL, however, many of the > kids and grandkids of the other four, (including Hazel's) can be found > near one anothr in AL, some staying in AL, some moving on to other places. > Lou Ann > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Lou Ann What years do you have for the Newberry five? Are these right? Hazzel 1766-1838 John 1768-1831 William 1769 - ? James 1771 - 1846 Isaac 1773 - 1827 Thanks Lenny On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Lenny Darnell <lrdarnell@gmail.com> wrote: > One last bit on Tom Cates and how he may fit into the Loveless clan. > > Tom's grandfather is James Thomas Cates 1852. He was born to Mary Polly > Cates 1822 who was a "Saloon Girl" south of Atlanta. James and his > brother Alexander were raised as their mother's brothers though Grandfather > Abraham Cates did file bastard reports. > > It has long been thought that the father of James and Alexander Cates is > one James Alexander Walton 1811 who may have been briefly married to Mary > Cates but was married to a Mary Ann Moody at the time that the Cates boys > were born. > > So, given Tom's Y Chromosome match to the Lovel*** line, either Tom's > great grandfather was not James Alexander Walton, or James Alexander Walton > was a Lovel***, not a Walton. Indeed, it seems possible that he could be > a son of James Thomas Loveless rather than Jesse Walton 1786. I am > looking for a male line descendant of Alexander Cates to see if he and > James Thomas Cates have the same father or not. > > Here is the line of the Waltons in question. > http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/64993570/person/30129837428/family As they > were from Onslow, NC, it seems much more likely that the Loveless Y > chromosome entered the line in Coweta GA in 1811 or in Clayton Ga in 1842 > than prior to that, but maybe not. > > Tom's connection to his grandfather James Thomas Cates and up to the > Cates/Berry side is well proven with DNA. > > If anyone has other ideas on how to research this I'd be much obliged. > > Lenny > > On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Brondak via <lovelace@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > >> Lisa, >> As Lenny said, James and Isaac married the Hughes sisters. We don't have >> a name for the wife of Hazel or William. John's wife's name was Marietta >> "Mary",. Her surname is not known, but based on the names of her >> children >> there are some possibilities. It could have been Vincent, Madison, >> Wilson >> or Milton or none of the above, >> Lou Ann >> >> >> >> >> >> In a message dated 6/26/16 12:39:32 PM, lovelace@rootsweb.com writes: >> >> >> > I'm getting confused by the discussion of the Newberry five. Are there >> > wives that can be attached to these men? >> > >> > Lisa Gorrell >> > >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >

One last bit on Tom Cates and how he may fit into the Loveless clan. Tom's grandfather is James Thomas Cates 1852. He was born to Mary Polly Cates 1822 who was a "Saloon Girl" south of Atlanta. James and his brother Alexander were raised as their mother's brothers though Grandfather Abraham Cates did file bastard reports. It has long been thought that the father of James and Alexander Cates is one James Alexander Walton 1811 who may have been briefly married to Mary Cates but was married to a Mary Ann Moody at the time that the Cates boys were born. So, given Tom's Y Chromosome match to the Lovel*** line, either Tom's great grandfather was not James Alexander Walton, or James Alexander Walton was a Lovel***, not a Walton. Indeed, it seems possible that he could be a son of James Thomas Loveless rather than Jesse Walton 1786. I am looking for a male line descendant of Alexander Cates to see if he and James Thomas Cates have the same father or not. Here is the line of the Waltons in question. http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/64993570/person/30129837428/family As they were from Onslow, NC, it seems much more likely that the Loveless Y chromosome entered the line in Coweta GA in 1811 or in Clayton Ga in 1842 than prior to that, but maybe not. Tom's connection to his grandfather James Thomas Cates and up to the Cates/Berry side is well proven with DNA. If anyone has other ideas on how to research this I'd be much obliged. Lenny On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Brondak via <lovelace@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Lisa, > As Lenny said, James and Isaac married the Hughes sisters. We don't have > a name for the wife of Hazel or William. John's wife's name was Marietta > "Mary",. Her surname is not known, but based on the names of her children > there are some possibilities. It could have been Vincent, Madison, Wilson > or Milton or none of the above, > Lou Ann > > > > > > In a message dated 6/26/16 12:39:32 PM, lovelace@rootsweb.com writes: > > > > I'm getting confused by the discussion of the Newberry five. Are there > > wives that can be attached to these men? > > > > Lisa Gorrell > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Oooops... false alarm. TMG is running now. Phew -----Original Message----- From: lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Lovelace via Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 11:13 AM To: lovelace@rootsweb.com Subject: [LL] HELP! TMG I've been running TMG ver 9 on this PC for some time now. (it's a Windows 10 op system), and was on it just a coupla days ago. Just now while looking up some info on the Newberry 5, I tried starting TMG and got this error message: "This app can't run on your PC" Yikes. Anybody have any ideas? Thanks, Andy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've been running TMG ver 9 on this PC for some time now. (it's a Windows 10 op system), and was on it just a coupla days ago. Just now while looking up some info on the Newberry 5, I tried starting TMG and got this error message: "This app can't run on your PC" Yikes. Anybody have any ideas? Thanks, Andy

I believe the wives for James and Isaac are Linna and Mary Hughes (sisters). This of course makes the DNA process more difficult. However, Tom Cates does have one DNA connection up a generation through one of those Hughes sisters brothers. There is no better explanation in the trees for the match than the Hughes line. This evidence leads me to believe he must come through James or Isaac and at the best point for where the lines would meet would be Atlanta in 1850 or so, which really focuses on James (Thomas)'s sons. So I would love to compare autosomal DNA with anyone descended from James or Isaac in particular. Thanks Lenny On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Lisa Gorrell via <lovelace@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I'm getting confused by the discussion of the Newberry five. Are there > wives that can be attached to these men? > > Lisa Gorrell > > On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Brondak via <lovelace@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > > > Lenny, > > For clarification the Newberry five are Hazel, James (who somehow picked > up > > the name Thomas added to his name, but which probably isn't right), > Isaac, > > John (who may or may not have the middle name of Milton) and William > (about > > whom less is known than the others. > > > > They were all originally in Newberry and four moved out. William to > > Laurens Co (where John is also > > found for one census year) and the others to Greenville Co. James and > > Isaac stayed in Greenville and john went to Alabama after some time in > > Greenville also. > > > > I continue to believe they were all brothers, but if proof can be found > > that they were not, I will > > concede. > > Lou Ann > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Greg, Thanks for the clarification on the DNA for Wade. I am looking for descendants of James Thomas and Isaac who have taken an autosomal DNA test. I can match on any site, but it's great if the test has been ported to GEDMatch. All, thanks for this fantastic discussion on the Newberry five. What I am taking away is that James Thomas and Isaac are definitely brothers and that the Hazel born around the same time might be. That the parents of Jame Thomas and Isaac are either John Lovelace/Mylla Milley or Joseph Lovelace/Sarah Robey, but definitely not William Loveless/Hazel Kern which most of the public trees have. >From a DNA evidence perspective on AncestryDNA Tom Cates and Bob Cates have the most connections to James Thomas, quite a few to Isaac, and a large number to John Milton. Would John Milton be related to either of the candidates for James Thomas and Isaac's father? Perhaps autosomal DNA analysis can start pointing to place the paper trail doesn't. The Cates link to Hazel (Hazzel?) is more distant per andestryDNA - but with autosomal that doesn't mean anything. I have seen large segments survive 10 generations and it isn't uncommon for 4th/5th cousins to share nothing or just a small segment. We also have a number of more distant cousins that also point to James Thomas, Issac and John Milton and even a couple to Bartholomew. Jack, I can't imagine that I can add anything to the awesome research this group has done. I will take a look at the archives just to learn more. My offer is more to build on the work that you guys have done to create a public Lovel*** tree for the MD group to support those who want to see the current best thinking in the area and support DNA genealogists such as myself. If the community wants to take on a more ambitious project, one could look at Berrytree.org. The Cates line goes through the the Berry's a couple of times. I don't have the web-page building skills to do this, but could follow directions of someone who does. Finally, here is what I have found for John Loveless 1745: - John Lovelace 1698/Nancy Jane Bohannon or John Lovelace 1710/Jane - For John Loveless 1710=>Thomas Lovelace 1685/Eleanor For Joseph Lovelace 1722/Sarah Robey == > John Lovelace 1689/ Mary Jane Beal What does the community research tell us about the line of John 1745 and Joseph 1722, the two best candidates for father of James Thomas and Isaac (and the rest of the Newberry 5)? Thanks all. This is fantastic On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 4:20 AM, Greg Lovelace via <lovelace@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Wade wrote: > "Yes Lenny, I did have a DNA test done." > > Morning, Wade! > > Lenny was asking whether you had an **AUTOSOMAL** DNA test done. I checked > your record on FTDNA and saw that you had done a 37-marker Y-DNA test done > back in 2004. Nothing about an autosomal... did you have your autosomal > done at Ancestry or 23andMe? > > Peace, > Part of the Tree, > Greg > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Wade wrote: "Yes Lenny, I did have a DNA test done." Morning, Wade! Lenny was asking whether you had an **AUTOSOMAL** DNA test done. I checked your record on FTDNA and saw that you had done a 37-marker Y-DNA test done back in 2004. Nothing about an autosomal... did you have your autosomal done at Ancestry or 23andMe? Peace, Part of the Tree, Greg

Yes Lenny, I did have a DNA test done. I found a record that Hazel was buried at Lower Dunkin Creek Baptist Church Cemetery. So one summer day I took my wife and five children to the Cemetery to see if I could find any Loveless' Graves. Unfortunatey, we found nothing. The cemetery was very large and the Graves were broken with tombstones pushed over and weeds all grown up on and around them. Many had snakes going in and out of them. My. Kids said it reminded them of Michael Jackson's Thriller. Leaving the cemetery, I drove to Whitmire, South Carolina and stopped at an old mom and pop store to get a Coke. While I was there I talked to the owners of the store and told them about our experience at the cemetery and they told me that the Cemetery had been abandoned when the church moved to become the First Baptist Church of Whitmire. They also safe time to visit the Cemetery was in the Winter. They also told about a local man who they believed knew a lot about the church. As he only lived about six houses away, I went to.his door. I told him about what I was looking for and he went into his house and brought out the Original Church Records for Lower Dunkin Creek He would not let me take them to copy and I probably would not allowed a total stranger to take them either. He did however, allow me to sit on his porch and read them for about an hour. I, by the way do not believe James was named James Thomas. All records I have seen list him as James Lovelace or James Loveless. James did have a son named Thomas and his youngest son was named James T. This was James Timmons Loveless and in the Gambrell records of his wife's family he is listed as Timmons Loveless. Wade T. Lovelace On Jun 26, 2016 1:48 AM, "Brondak via" <lovelace@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Jack (and all)....A little more on the Newberry Five (thanks Wade, for that > name. It helps distinguish them from all the other SC Lovelaces really > well. Why didn't I ever think of calling them that? lol) > > Another thing I looked at determining that these five were brothers were > naming patterns: > > Hazel: Six sons, one named Joseph (for his father) one James and one > William (for his brothers?) > > James: Eight sons, one William, one Hazel, (for brothers?) > > Isaac: 11 children one son Joseph and one daughter Sarah (for parents?) son > James (for brother?) > > William: I'm not 100% sure of his children, but I think he had a William > and a James > > John: Six sons, one named James Isaac (for two brothers?) and one William. > Note Jamea Isaac or also known as James of Tishomingo is not 100% proven > as a son of John, but I think he might be. The name James Isaac is proven. > > James might just have been a real popular name OR the brothers may all have > really liked him above the rest.. > > James and Isaac married sisters. > We don't know the surnames of the wives of Hazel, John or William > Hazel was the only one who stayed in newberry. > John, James & Isaac went to Greenville. > William to Laurens Co where John was also found in 1810. > > Of the five, only John left SC and went to AL, however, many of the kids > and grandkids of the other four, (including Hazel's) can be found near one > anothr in AL, some staying in AL, some moving on to other places. > Lou Ann > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Jack (and all)....A little more on the Newberry Five (thanks Wade, for that name. It helps distinguish them from all the other SC Lovelaces really well. Why didn't I ever think of calling them that? lol) Another thing I looked at determining that these five were brothers were naming patterns: Hazel: Six sons, one named Joseph (for his father) one James and one William (for his brothers?) James: Eight sons, one William, one Hazel, (for brothers?) Isaac: 11 children one son Joseph and one daughter Sarah (for parents?) son James (for brother?) William: I'm not 100% sure of his children, but I think he had a William and a James John: Six sons, one named James Isaac (for two brothers?) and one William. Note Jamea Isaac or also known as James of Tishomingo is not 100% proven as a son of John, but I think he might be. The name James Isaac is proven. James might just have been a real popular name OR the brothers may all have really liked him above the rest.. James and Isaac married sisters. We don't know the surnames of the wives of Hazel, John or William Hazel was the only one who stayed in newberry. John, James & Isaac went to Greenville. William to Laurens Co where John was also found in 1810. Of the five, only John left SC and went to AL, however, many of the kids and grandkids of the other four, (including Hazel's) can be found near one anothr in AL, some staying in AL, some moving on to other places. Lou Ann

This is another MD descendent. Line as follows: Ginger>Frank Smith Lovelace>Frank Smith Lovelace>William B>James Riley> Hazel>James Thomas>Joseph (I think) Joseph's father not yet proven. Lou Ann In a message dated 6/19/16 6:59:08 AM, lovelace@rootsweb.com writes: > Ginger "Gigi" Whitworth(1954 - 2016) > June 12, 2016 Ginger Lovelace Whitworth, of Gardendale, AL, passed away > peacefully at the age of 61, surrounded by her family whom she loved so > dearly. She was a devoted and loving wife of 42 years to Rickey L. Whitworth, > Sr. She was a treasured mother of three sons, Rickey Whitworth, Jr. (Freedom > Whitworth), Jeremy Whitworth (Jennifer), and Justin Whitworth; and a proud > grandmother of five, Sierra, Cody, Rick, Reagan and Braden. She also leaves > behind three sisters, Linda Alford (Steve), Sharon Rutledge and Lisa > Brown, many other family members and a host of friends. Ginger was preceded in > death by her parents, Frank and Mary Ann Lovelace. The family will receive > friends on Wednesday, June 15th, from 6:00pm until 8:00pm at Ridout's > Gardendale Chapel. Funeral service will be held at the Mausoleum Chapel in > Oakwood Memorial Gardens on Thursday, June 16th, at 11:00am. In lieu of flowers, > the family requests donations to the St. Vincent's Hospital Foundation > (Nursing Fund – Birmingham) in her memory, because of the outstanding care, > love and support shown by the staff in the South Tower, First Floor, ICU. > > > > > Funeral Home > Ridout's Gardendale Chapel > 2029 Decatur Highway Gardendale, AL 35071 > (205) 631-6252 > Published in The Birmingham News on June 15, 2016 >

This is one of Benj b 1727 descendents. Line as follows: Randy>Harold Luther>Luther Kenneth>Richard Franklin>Asa>Richard>Reason>Benj b 1727 Lou Ann In a message dated 6/20/16 7:12:36 AM, lovelace@rootsweb.com writes: > Randy Lovelace(1962 - 2016) > Randy Scott Lovelace > > Port St. John, FL > > Randy Scott Lovelace, 54, of Port St. John, passed away Thursday, June 16, > 2016 surrounded by family. Born in Springfield, IL, he moved to Florida 17 > years ago from Virginia. Randy was a US Army veteran. > >

Jack, It was only one of the others where she appeared. Hazel died in 1838 and in the 1840 census James had the older woman age 80-90 in his census record. She had not been in his household previously. I think that was their mother and if James and Hazel were brothers, it only makes sense that the whole Newberry clan belonged together even though they began moving separately later. Families did that. I need to look at all my notes for further info. Lou Ann

Jack, For now I'm going to respectfully disagree. I still think they're brothers and one of the reasons is that after the mother didn't appear on Hazel's census, there was an older woman on one of the other brothers and when that one stopped, an older woman appeared on one of the others. I'm not looking at my data base right now, but I'll go back and look and be more specific about the reasons I think they're brothers. Lou Ann In a message dated 6/25/16 6:51:04 PM, lovelacejackd@verizon.net writes: > Lou Ann, > > I could be wrong, but here goes. > > Hazle is definitely a son of Joseph and Sarah.  We know this from a > baptism record in Saint Paul's Episcopal Church in the All Saints Parish > in Rock Creek, MD. > > John, William, Isaac and James were supposedly born in Maryland, but we > do not have any baptism records for them.  We definitely need proof of > where they were born. > > In 1767, Joseph was selling his possessions in Maryland.  By 1768, > Joseph and Sarah are thought to be in North Carolina.  John, William, > Isaac and James were born after this move. > > Joseph probably died about 1780 in Rowan County, North Carolina. > > We find Hazel, John, and William in Newberry County, South Carolina, on > the 1790 census.  Based on census counts, Sarah Robey is living with > Hazle; Isaac and James are living with William. > > In 1800, Hazle and William are still in Newberry District.  John, Isaac, > and James are found in Greenville District.  Sarah Robey is still > counted on Hazle's census. > > In 1810, Hazle is still in Newberry District.  His mother, Sarah Robey, > is deceased. > > Based on the census data, I think that John, James, Isaac, and William > are definitely brothers.  I do not think that John, James, and Isaac > would have left Newberry District while their mother was still living. > Therefore, Sarah Robey is not their mother.  Which implies that Hazle is > not their brother.  Since we know that Hazle is the son of Joseph, John, > James, Isaac, and William are not the sons of Joseph. > > The most likely candidate to be the father of John, James, Isaac, and > William is John Lovelace, the brother of Ignatius.  John probably died > in Charles County, Maryland before 1790. > >

Wade,. Have you done an autosomal DNA test? James and Issac and their Hughes sisters wife's show up most often in my search for Tom Cates Lovel,... line. Sent from my aFone. Please excuse typos and insults. On Jun 25, 2016 3:59 PM, "Wade Lovelace via" <lovelace@rootsweb.com> wrote: I came up with the term "The Newberry Five" years ago when I was researching my ancestor James Loveless/Lovelace. James was born in North Carolina in the year 1771. I decided several years ago that James parents were Joseph and Sarah Robey Lovelace of Maryland. The brothers of James Lovelace were Hazel Lovelace 1766, William Lovelace est.1768, John Loveless 1770, and Isaac Loveless 1773. Hazel, William, John, James and Isaac all lived in Newberry County, South Carolina probably in the early 1790's. Hazel and William's descendants went to Lauderdale County, Alabama. John's descendants went to Jefferson County, Alabama. Later James' daughter Elizabeth and her husband Peter Crawford followed. The Crawford's and some of John's children went to Mississippi apparently together. Most of James' family and Isaac's family went to Georgia and later to other Southern states in the middle 19th century including Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas and Texas. This is all I can remember at this time Wade T. Lovelace ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I came up with the term "The Newberry Five" years ago when I was researching my ancestor James Loveless/Lovelace. James was born in North Carolina in the year 1771. I decided several years ago that James parents were Joseph and Sarah Robey Lovelace of Maryland. The brothers of James Lovelace were Hazel Lovelace 1766, William Lovelace est.1768, John Loveless 1770, and Isaac Loveless 1773. Hazel, William, John, James and Isaac all lived in Newberry County, South Carolina probably in the early 1790's. Hazel and William's descendants went to Lauderdale County, Alabama. John's descendants went to Jefferson County, Alabama. Later James' daughter Elizabeth and her husband Peter Crawford followed. The Crawford's and some of John's children went to Mississippi apparently together. Most of James' family and Isaac's family went to Georgia and later to other Southern states in the middle 19th century including Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas and Texas. This is all I can remember at this time Wade T. Lovelace

Mary L. Dillon(1958 - 2016) Mary L. Dillon 1958-2016 Mary L. Dillon, age 58, passed away Tuesday, June 21, 2016. Born in Houston, Texas, she was a loving mother and grandmother. She was preceded in death by her husband of 36 years, Gerald E. Dillon, Jr.; and parents, Roy and Bessie Lary. Survived by daughters, Meredith J. Lovelace and Amanda L. Dillon and fiancé Derrick Douglas; grandchildren, Cameron D. Lovelace and MaKenna J. Lovelace; sisters, Joyce Dossey and Linda Garrett; brother, Rick Lary and wife Michelle; and numerous nieces and nephews. Visitation will be held 5:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m., Friday, June 24, 2016. The Celebration of Life Funeral Service will be 2:00 p.m., Saturday, June 25, 2016 in The Chapel of Earthman Resthaven. Interment will follow at Brookside Memorial Park. Funeral Home Earthman Resthaven Funeral Home 13102 North Fwy Houston, TX 77060 (281) 443-0063 Published in Houston Chronicle on June 24, 2016

Picture appears to be an African American MARIA LOVELACE Maria Lovelace On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 in Arlington, VA. She is survived by her children, Carlos and Carl; a grandchild, Carla; her siblings, Carlton, Michael, Brenda, Zachary, Tywana and Antonio (Kimberly) and a host of other relatives and friends. The family will receive friends at Alleyne AME Zion Church, 1417 King St., Alexandria, VA 22314 on Monday, June 27 2016 from 10 a.m. until time of service at 11 a.m. Rev Quintin Borders, Pastor. Interment in Bethel Cemetery. Arrangements by Greene Funeral Home, Inc. Funeral Home Greene Funeral Home Inc 814 Franklin Street Alexandria, VA 22314 (703) 549-0089 Published in The Washington Post on June 24, 2016