I ordered the book "History of Faggs Manor Presbyterian Church, 1730-1980" By Wm. Noble, H. Heagey and Musetta McClellan, through interlibrary loan just to see for myself what everyone was quoting. Below is what is in it. Katheryn ********** James Cochran, John Ramsey, JOHN LOVE, John Smith, John Simpson and William Boyd were elders. [Pg. # did not print, but it is re. 1740.] "Hostile bands of Indians continued to ravage the new settlement. Many...people, improverished and discouraged, withdrew to the more densely population regions." [Pg. 17, 1754] "The date of this instrument [deed to church peoperty] is June 15, 1759. The grantees were Job Ruston, James Coughran, William Boyd and David Ramsey, all of Chester County and John Taylor of Lancaster County.... "In order to secure the property forever for church purposes, a deed was made the next year by these five gentlement to the Board of Trustees consisting of Rev. John Blair, Jophn Smith, Moses Ross, David Simpson, DA! VID FLEMING." [Pg. 17-18, 1759] (John Love is supposed to have married Margaret Fleming about the time he left PA and moved to TN in the late 1700s.) "The name of Job Ruston...is one which deserves the remembrance of the church, and one of his acts is especially worth of record and imitation. By his will he bequeathed to his executors, THOMAS LOVE and James Boyd, the sum of one hundred pounds 'to be by them laid out so that the interest may be paid toward the supporet of the gospel ministry that shall be the pastor and preacher in the meeting-house at Faggs Manor in Londonderry Township, Chester County.' " [Pg. 18, 1757] "....notes found on the third floor of Jackson Hall where various church records are stored. These notes seem to be a record of Sessional events from 1760 to 1770. "October 1760. Presbytery met in Faggs Manor. JNO LOVE, elder and John Blair, minister." [Pg. 19, 1770] "October 1770. George Cochran complains to Essiion for refusing a copy of jud! gmenet and certificate for Mr. Foster and Robert Smith appointed to meet with session and reopen the case. Session members - JOHN LOVE, David Ramsay, James Gilleland, DAVID FLEMING, and Thomas Armstrong." [pg. 20, 1770] "In the year 1775, the congregation, still without a pastor, enetered upon the erection of a new church....'The Trustees' Book' for the meetinghoouse of Faggs Manor, containing a true copy of the subscriptions taken from the original paper, divided into six quarters as entered in this book. The collectors of the six 'Quarters' were THOMAS LOVE, John Ramsay, John Ross, James Boyd, William Sterritt and Robert Cochran. The total amopunt of the subscriptions recorded in this book is 608 pounds, 11 shillings, 6 denari." [pg. 21, 1775] "The church building was commenced the year before the signing of the Declaration of Independence...in the midst of a bloody war. What trials the congregation underwent in the building of a church at such a time, and what part! they took in the struggle for national freedom, we have no means now of ascertaining. but of their fidelity both to the cause of God and their country, we have no room to doubt. "That the congregation furnished its quota of men for the war of independence seems almost certain fromthe fact that two members of the session were commissiuoned officers, and as both were men of character and influence, they would not be without a following from their own regions. General Samuel Cochran and LIEUTENANT THOMAS LOVE were brave soldiers and men of earnest piety. Though differinbg in rank, they were bosom friends, and occupied the same tent when in camp. And from their tent was heard to arise every day morning and night the voice of song and prayer as in their 'family worship' they sang one of Rouse's psalms, and knelt together before the throne of grace." [Pg. 22, 1776] "An old account book kept by Mr. Finley [minister 1781-1793] and now in the possession of the MISSES LOVE...."! [Pg. 23, 1781] "The churches of the east were sadly depleted, some almost extinguished by this emigration. In the birth of new institutions the mother's life was put in jeopardy. this church, like others, suffered. Mr. Finley's account book foots up the loss by death and removals in one year and finds it to be one hundred and forty, or one hundred and fifty bushels of wheat, more than one-third of the pastor's salary. No wonder pastors became discouraged, and turned their faces, like their peoples, westward....Three commissioners were appointed by the congreation to accede in their behalf to this request [for decent pay. But they couldn't come up with enough to support him.] "With sorrow it is but in justice to him we must concur with his request [to be released from preaching there]." Signed John Ross, THOMAS LOVE, John Ramsey [Pg?, 1787] Membership in 1804 included: James Love, Martha Love, Mary Love, Sarah Love, Thomas Love, James Ramsay, John Ramsay, Margaret ! Ramsay, Alexander Walker. (I copied these surnames because they are present in Knox Co., TN, also.) "Mrs. Martha ross and Mr. Hugh Daniel, both of whom loved on the borders of the congregation, four or five miles from the church, tell us that it was their habit to walk to church in their youth, and that from all parts of the congregation the people came to the House of God on foot. REV. THOMAS LOVE says that more than eighty years ago when he was an infant his mother carried him before her on a horse to the old church to present him to the Lord in baptism. Carriages were almost unknown." [Pg. 30, 1809] "Besides his [White's] own sons two other young men went out from Faggs Manor as ministers of the gospel in the time of Mr. White. they were another pair of brothers, THOMAS AND ROBERT LOVE. ROBERT settled in the churches of Harmony and Oxford, NJ, and after a ministry of six years died October 9, 1838, at the early age of thirty-one years. THOMAS, the elder of the two,! is still living and resides in Hockessin, Deleware. He had retired from the active work of the ministry after a long and faithful service as pastor of Rred Clay Creek Church for nearly forty years. THE LOVE FAMILY has been a prominent one in Faggs Manor Church from the beginning. JOHN LOVE was one of the first elders, and in each generation since one or more of his descendants have been members of the session. His son, grandson, and great-grandson, like himself, were elders, and his lineal descendant of the fifth generation, Mr.J. HAMILTON ROSS, still retains the succession." [Pg. 33, 1835] --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.