Bill -- Doesn't look as if our family lines match. I sent a reply to Lou, but forgot to do "Reply All"; I'll remedy that now. Incidentally, my kit number is 36648. Mike Love, Winnetka, IL In a message dated 6/8/2007 2:51:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time, billuv@houston.rr.com writes: Lou: Thanks for getting something started again. I am still at a brick wall with my Love line. Looking at the DNA results, I do not see family lines for kit number 17651, which I match 24 out of 25 markers, or kit 42315, which I match 35 out of 37. I do not know who these people are, but would like to. I am kit number 8336. If you are kit 17651 or 42315 I would like to hear from you. Lou, you and I match on 23 out of 25 markers. My John Love ancestor is reported to have been born abt. 1775, and to have come to Chester District SC in 1806 from Scotland, but his father John Love may have been from the Dublin Ireland area. My guess is that he came to SC to be near relatives who were already there. He reportedly came with his brother Joseph, who lived on the NC/SC line, and had nine sons. John Love b. abt 1775, moved his family from SC to Madison Co. MS about 1830, where he bought land near Robert Love, a son of Alexander Love, who was born in PA, a son of Robert Love and Violet Wilson, I think. This part is from memory. John Love b. 1775 died and was buried on the Love family place at Sand Flat, Loves Creek, Madison Co MS, before 1840, I think. My great-great-grandfather, John Love, was born July 22, 1808, in, we think, Chester District, SC. His mother, Mary Dixon or Dickson, is reported to be buried in Chester, SC. John Love, b. 1808, m. Mary Hurst in 1834 in Madison Co. MS, and moved to TX in 1848 after selling his land. He bought land in Williamson Co. TX in 1852, and settled there. Mary Hurst Love d. 1850 in Bastrop Co. TX. I would like to hear from anyone whose DNA is a close match to kit 8336. I have already corresponded with several of you, but it never hurts to touch base again. Thanks. Bill Love of Galveston, TX. ----- Original Message ----- From: _Lou Love_ (mailto:llove1039@sbcglobal.net) To: _LOVE@rootsweb.com_ (mailto:LOVE@rootsweb.com) ; _Norris Love_ (mailto:mallard99@aol.com) ; _Wallace Keith Love_ (mailto:GMarsh8214@aol.com) ; _Robert Henry Love_ (mailto:strawgirl123@aol.com) ; _Robert Gray Love_ (mailto:bjoklove@cox.net) ; _Mr. Linton Everett Love_ (mailto:love2057@rogers.com) ; _Jeffrey Lawrence Love_ (mailto:jeff_love1@comcast.net) ; _Louis H. Love_ (mailto:louis012157@yahoo.com) ; _Joseph William Love Jr._ (mailto:billuv@houston.rr.com) ; _David George Shelton_ (mailto:capnjeep@att.net) ; _Mrs. Hazel Love Stephens_ (mailto:hst3ph3ns@bellsouth.net) ; _Charles A. Wierman_ (mailto:dulcich6@aol.com) Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 1:07 PM Subject: Hello DNA Cuzins I don't know why I haven't done this before - Failed to see your email addresses or the site has changed so that it's more visible... Whatever!! You'll notice I'm sending this to the list as well as individually. Trying to help Mary stir up some list activity. Some of us have talked before,even recently. Others I have not communicated with, as far as my feeble memory serves. AND I recently had my computer go down and for some reason my correspondence log in my genealogy backup isn't there. SO lets begin again. Let's compare notes on our lines and see if we can find our common ground. Who's your earliest ancestor ? - Mine - James Love, "the weaver" [I just sent my entire line to the list] Where ? - he's thought to have been b in Scotland or Ireland in When ? 1704/5 Early on in my research, I assumed James father was a James as well due to "Naming Patterns" - Oldest son being named for paternal grandfather, etc. Then, for the longest time I thought his father might be Robert Love, who left a will in Pa. 1741 & mar. 3 times. There is a biography by William Calhoun Love who visited "Kin" in Miss. [sons & Grandsons of William "English Bill" Love and Thomas Love who marr. into the Chickasaw Nation]. Wm. Calhoun Love was a descendant [it appears] of this Robert of 1741 will. Now it appears DNA evidence rules this OUT. CONFUSION REIGNS !! Now I'm wondering if I weren't correct in my original assumption that James is "the weavers" father. What are your brickwalls ? - The parents of James is just ONE of my brickwalls. Many of my research lines are blocked by unknown lastnames for wives of the male. Does anyone have a secret for finding these "lost" women. They are referred to by given name only [if at all] in wills, and marriage certs have proven impossible to locate. BTW - I have over 60,000 folks in my research database - Lots of LOVEs ! and collateral lines. In MY Love Line database I have over 30,000 connections - so I've got a lot of data collected over the years. My line is pretty well documented - others are a COLLECTION of the work of others and not personally documented by me. I share it in that vein - it's a lead - CHECK IT OUT TO VERIFY IT. Hope to hear more from you LOVE CUZINS> Love, Lou ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.