OK, my dig got some list activity. I want to remind everyone do not click on reply because that comes to the person who posted and not to the list. Address each email to the List. Love@rootsweb.com I had thought, and maybe I was wrong, that when we started the ydna study ,people broke off into little related groups. Apparently not true since Lou belongs to the biggest group and he isn't sure who all he matches. One or two don't match a Love at all . We need more Love men to test to try and find an adoption or problem somewhere in that line. This list is about genealogy and for those of you who wonder if DNA really has anything to do with genealogy, it has everything to do with it. Some of us ladies have to try and get brothers, cousins or even 3rd or 4th cousins to test and try and tie into a line. My line is from my grandfather Hiram Brown Love to his father John D. Love of AL. to his father William Byler Love to his father John Love/Orpha Dungan and to Joseph Love/Mary Teas. Yet there may be problems with that line. I think two men have tested who descend from Joseph Love/Mary Teas son Samuel and they did match. There is still much research needed. I would like to know. If you are a male LOVE who do you descend from and have you tested and did you find a match? If you are a female with a male Love in your family , have they tested, will they test? I think Fred has volunteered to take over the YDNA pages. Francis has done a good job and deserves lots of Thanks for a job well done. Maybe in a few weeks Fred will make an announcement if he does this and at that time we may need more of you to write to him with information about your line. Meanwhile we have the list and we can get it back to working again. My fear is that Ancestry may take the lists away if we don't continue using them. I hope that fear is unfounded. Mary Harkey Russell Maryiola@alltel.net http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~bird