Mickey, The following is not pertaining to the James Love family who moved from VA through Stokes to now Cabarrus along the Rocky River near where it crosses highway 24-27. Another James Love settled twenty years earlier about ten miles upstream on the Rocky River. His grant was a 1778 Sec. State land grant issued after usold lands of the deceased Arthur Dobbs were taken back by the state. Some of the land in this region was even granted back in the 1750's by Gov. Glenn of SC. This James Love owned land on the south side of Rocky River in the Rocky River Presbyterian Community about a mile west of where Hwy 601 crosses. John Love, (I believe to be son of James) owned land opposite the river from James Love. In the same day, a William Love received a grant for land on Goose Creek about 15 miles south. He had ties to Donnelson and others who moved on through SC. Note that the Catawba and Charleston highway crossed the Rocky River between where the early and later James Love settled. Many from the area moved out down the highway and settled from the Waxaws of SC to the Union County area. I have no idea that this LOVE family is linked to yours. But I do believe it was a large family that lived in Cumberland County NC prior to 1772. I also believe they moved into the Abbeville area of SC ca. 1784. Somewhere down the line, we should be seeing DNA results for this family. I wonder if any LOVE researches have looked into the Abbeville district Love family. George > > From: "Mickey Fournier" <mwfournier@comcast.net> > Date: 2007/06/12 Tue AM 10:12:01 EDT > To: <geothos@bellsouth.net>, > "'Lou Love'" <llove1039@sbcglobal.net>, > <Love@rootsweb.com> > Subject: RE: Re: [LOVE] Loves of Chester County, SC ca 1800 > > Oh, I won't ever give up! I have spent several days in Chester County and I > thought I had scoured everything. Lou, I know your James and some of his > sons had North Carolina land grants that turned out to be in South Carolina > when the line was straightened out. Could this be your folks in the records > of Mecklenburg? The names are right. > > I have Campbells in Chester and Fairfield Counties, SC, also. Those folks > will drive you totally nuts! > > -----Original Message----- > From: geothos@bellsouth.net [mailto:geothos@bellsouth.net] > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 10:55 PM > To: Mickey Fournier; 'Lou Love'; Love@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Re: [LOVE] Loves of Chester County, SC ca 1800 > > Micky, > > Don't give up. Years ago I spent a summer in the Chester County courthouse > digging through records there in order to try to prove a THOMAS family in > Alabama were kin to David Thomas of Chester. Read every book in the moldy > basement and did not find what I was looking for. On top of the eight foot > cabinets that line the basement, there were piles of old court books. I > climbed up on top of the cabinet and set myself to reading. Sure enough, in > a day book by a judege who was sitting in for a judge who was sick, was > written the names of heirs from the estate of David Thomas and where they > 'now live' ...in Alabama! > > Anyhow, I have always wondered about the LOVE family in Chester/Union County > SC and the James/William/ John Love of Mecklenburg NC. James of Mecklenburg > appeared to be the father...not my James Love of Cabarrus. He received land > in 1772 stating that he was from "Cumberland County NC". I find record of > him there too ...earlier. On the same day, James, William and John all > acquired land in Mecklenburg. They signed a petition about the evils and > fairness of men who were receiving very large grants of land. Then in 1784 > they disappeared. > > These three lived in the area around Rocky River Presbyterian Church in now > Cabarrus. They had attended Pine Bluff Presbyterian in Cumberland NC. > Their neighbors in the Cabarrus area were involved in the buring of Hugh > Waddel's ammo waggon during the regulator movement. In the 1750's, Rev. > Hugh McAden Preached at Rocky River Presbyterian and then down to SC where > he preached and stayed at James Love's on the Broad River. There were > CAMPBELL interation with your LOVE in Chester/Union. There is also a > Campbell family who lived next to this James Love in Cabarrus/Mecklenburg. > > The Morrison family came from PA possibly through eastern nc. I just wonder > if there is a tie to this family? > > All you Loves out there... have any of you worked on the LOVE family who > showed up in Abbeville District SC ca. 1780's? I suspect they are part of > the family of James Love of earlier in Mecklenburg..... > > > > > > > > From: "Mickey Fournier" <mwfournier@comcast.net> > > Date: 2007/06/11 Mon PM 09:32:07 EDT > > To: "'Lou Love'" <llove1039@sbcglobal.net>, <Love@rootsweb.com> > > Subject: Re: [LOVE] Loves of Chester County, SC ca 1800 > > > > Lou: > > > > I have been watching the list daily but haven't posted in quite a > > while. I don't have anything new and I am pretty well convinced that > > the "proof" I need to tie John to English Bill will never be found. > > > > I have found a couple of references in Chester County to William > > Love's will...one mention in some land that one of John's son > > sold..but the will itself is not there. Given that Bill was a Tory, > > maybe the family just divided his property according to his wishes and > > didn't file the thing. I just pray that somebody somewhere is in > > possession of the original and that it will surface someday. > > > > Also, I am quite surprised that his property was not confiscated but, > > surprisingly, there is no record of that, either. Maybe it is because > > he had sons and grandsons who were Patriots? The history of that > > family will nearly break your heart! What they went through in that > > war was near unbelieveable. > > > > I know lots of folks are scared to death of having it proven they > > descend from English Bill. I may be the only one who hopes she is! > > > > Nice to hear from you. Are you okay? > > > > Mickey > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: Lou Love [mailto:llove1039@sbcglobal.net] > > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 9:18 PM > > To: Mickey Fournier; Love@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [LOVE] Loves of Chester County, SC ca 1800 > > > > > > Hi Mickey - would be happy to claim you as a "kissin cuzin" - Haven't > > seen you post for a while - like everyone else - takin a break. > > > > I still have all your info in the database - still lookin for connections. > > > > Good Hunting, > > Later, > > Love, Lou > > > > > > > > > > Mickey Fournier <mwfournier@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > My John LOVE died in Chester County in 1799 leaving wife Elizabeth > > (almost > > certainly a ROYALL); sons, John Royall, William and Samuel; > daughters > > Mary > > WRIGHT (my ancestor), Elizabeth, Margaret and Jean. The younger > three > > girls > > were unmarried when their father died. > > > > I can build a very good circumstantial case to show that this John > > was the > > son of "English Bill" but there is no real proof of that. > > > > Of John's sons: > > > > (1) John Royall LOVE was a Patriot during the Revolution though he > > was > > pretty young to have been in service. He married Rachel (maiden name > > unk) > > and had two known children: (1) Milton Royall LOVE b. ca 1806, m. > > Mary > > ATTERBERRY, d. 1870 in Noxubee County, MS. A daughter, Lucinda, > > married > > William MINTER, no further info. > > > > (2) William m. Mary KOLB and had known sons, S.J. and Luther and a > > daughter, > > Bettie. I have no info on the children. > > > > (3) Samuel m. Ruth KOLB and they had sons James Kolb LOVE and Royall > > > Kolb > > LOVE. Royall died in 1891 in Louisiana. > > > > I would be happy to share the expense of a DNA test for any LOVE who > > > can > > prove descent from John through any of the sons. At least, I feel > > confident > > that will prove I am Lou's "kissin' cousin." > > > > Mildred "Mickey" Fournier > > 1730 SE County Rd 252 > > Lake City, FL 32025-1703 > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LOVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LOVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >

George, The family you describe sounds like James Love, Sr. who m Elizabeth Crooke. He was b ca 1720 in Brunswick Co., Va. & d Stokes Co., NC. This is Pat Stubblefieds Line according to my notes. And no ties to my line that I've found yet. Son John m Ruth Crooke - son James Allison Love m Mary Elizabeth Ingram & d in Cabarrus Co., NC Big families with big families. Raised their own field hands I think! Later, Lou geothos@bellsouth.net wrote: Mickey, The following is not pertaining to the James Love family who moved from VA through Stokes to now Cabarrus along the Rocky River near where it crosses highway 24-27. Another James Love settled twenty years earlier about ten miles upstream on the Rocky River. His grant was a 1778 Sec. State land grant issued after usold lands of the deceased Arthur Dobbs were taken back by the state. Some of the land in this region was even granted back in the 1750's by Gov. Glenn of SC. This James Love owned land on the south side of Rocky River in the Rocky River Presbyterian Community about a mile west of where Hwy 601 crosses. John Love, (I believe to be son of James) owned land opposite the river from James Love. In the same day, a William Love received a grant for land on Goose Creek about 15 miles south. He had ties to Donnelson and others who moved on through SC. Note that the Catawba and Charleston highway crossed the Rocky River between where the early and later James Love settled. Many from the area moved out down the highway and settled from the Waxaws of SC to the Union County area. I have no idea that this LOVE family is linked to yours. But I do believe it was a large family that lived in Cumberland County NC prior to 1772. I also believe they moved into the Abbeville area of SC ca. 1784. Somewhere down the line, we should be seeing DNA results for this family. I wonder if any LOVE researches have looked into the Abbeville district Love family. George > > From: "Mickey Fournier" > Date: 2007/06/12 Tue AM 10:12:01 EDT > To: , > "'Lou Love'" , > > Subject: RE: Re: [LOVE] Loves of Chester County, SC ca 1800 > > Oh, I won't ever give up! I have spent several days in Chester County and I > thought I had scoured everything. Lou, I know your James and some of his > sons had North Carolina land grants that turned out to be in South Carolina > when the line was straightened out. Could this be your folks in the records > of Mecklenburg? The names are right. > > I have Campbells in Chester and Fairfield Counties, SC, also. Those folks > will drive you totally nuts! > > -----Original Message----- > From: geothos@bellsouth.net [mailto:geothos@bellsouth.net] > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 10:55 PM > To: Mickey Fournier; 'Lou Love'; Love@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Re: [LOVE] Loves of Chester County, SC ca 1800 > > Micky, > > Don't give up. Years ago I spent a summer in the Chester County courthouse > digging through records there in order to try to prove a THOMAS family in > Alabama were kin to David Thomas of Chester. Read every book in the moldy > basement and did not find what I was looking for. On top of the eight foot > cabinets that line the basement, there were piles of old court books. I > climbed up on top of the cabinet and set myself to reading. Sure enough, in > a day book by a judege who was sitting in for a judge who was sick, was > written the names of heirs from the estate of David Thomas and where they > 'now live' ...in Alabama! > > Anyhow, I have always wondered about the LOVE family in Chester/Union County > SC and the James/William/ John Love of Mecklenburg NC. James of Mecklenburg > appeared to be the father...not my James Love of Cabarrus. He received land > in 1772 stating that he was from "Cumberland County NC". I find record of > him there too ...earlier. On the same day, James, William and John all > acquired land in Mecklenburg. They signed a petition about the evils and > fairness of men who were receiving very large grants of land. Then in 1784 > they disappeared. > > These three lived in the area around Rocky River Presbyterian Church in now > Cabarrus. They had attended Pine Bluff Presbyterian in Cumberland NC. > Their neighbors in the Cabarrus area were involved in the buring of Hugh > Waddel's ammo waggon during the regulator movement. In the 1750's, Rev. > Hugh McAden Preached at Rocky River Presbyterian and then down to SC where > he preached and stayed at James Love's on the Broad River. There were > CAMPBELL interation with your LOVE in Chester/Union. There is also a > Campbell family who lived next to this James Love in Cabarrus/Mecklenburg. > > The Morrison family came from PA possibly through eastern nc. I just wonder > if there is a tie to this family? > > All you Loves out there... have any of you worked on the LOVE family who > showed up in Abbeville District SC ca. 1780's? I suspect they are part of > the family of James Love of earlier in Mecklenburg..... > > > > > > > > From: "Mickey Fournier" > > Date: 2007/06/11 Mon PM 09:32:07 EDT > > To: "'Lou Love'" , > > Subject: Re: [LOVE] Loves of Chester County, SC ca 1800 > > > > Lou: > > > > I have been watching the list daily but haven't posted in quite a > > while. I don't have anything new and I am pretty well convinced that > > the "proof" I need to tie John to English Bill will never be found. > > > > I have found a couple of references in Chester County to William > > Love's will...one mention in some land that one of John's son > > sold..but the will itself is not there. Given that Bill was a Tory, > > maybe the family just divided his property according to his wishes and > > didn't file the thing. I just pray that somebody somewhere is in > > possession of the original and that it will surface someday. > > > > Also, I am quite surprised that his property was not confiscated but, > > surprisingly, there is no record of that, either. Maybe it is because > > he had sons and grandsons who were Patriots? The history of that > > family will nearly break your heart! What they went through in that > > war was near unbelieveable. > > > > I know lots of folks are scared to death of having it proven they > > descend from English Bill. I may be the only one who hopes she is! > > > > Nice to hear from you. Are you okay? > > > > Mickey > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: Lou Love [mailto:llove1039@sbcglobal.net] > > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 9:18 PM > > To: Mickey Fournier; Love@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [LOVE] Loves of Chester County, SC ca 1800 > > > > > > Hi Mickey - would be happy to claim you as a "kissin cuzin" - Haven't > > seen you post for a while - like everyone else - takin a break. > > > > I still have all your info in the database - still lookin for connections. > > > > Good Hunting, > > Later, > > Love, Lou > > > > > > > > > > Mickey Fournier wrote: > > > > My John LOVE died in Chester County in 1799 leaving wife Elizabeth > > (almost > > certainly a ROYALL); sons, John Royall, William and Samuel; > daughters > > Mary > > WRIGHT (my ancestor), Elizabeth, Margaret and Jean. The younger > three > > girls > > were unmarried when their father died. > > > > I can build a very good circumstantial case to show that this John > > was the > > son of "English Bill" but there is no real proof of that. > > > > Of John's sons: > > > > (1) John Royall LOVE was a Patriot during the Revolution though he > > was > > pretty young to have been in service. He married Rachel (maiden name > > unk) > > and had two known children: (1) Milton Royall LOVE b. ca 1806, m. > > Mary > > ATTERBERRY, d. 1870 in Noxubee County, MS. A daughter, Lucinda, > > married > > William MINTER, no further info. > > > > (2) William m. Mary KOLB and had known sons, S.J. and Luther and a > > daughter, > > Bettie. I have no info on the children. > > > > (3) Samuel m. Ruth KOLB and they had sons James Kolb LOVE and Royall > > > Kolb > > LOVE. Royall died in 1891 in Louisiana. > > > > I would be happy to share the expense of a DNA test for any LOVE who > > > can > > prove descent from John through any of the sons. At least, I feel > > confident > > that will prove I am Lou's "kissin' cousin." > > > > Mildred "Mickey" Fournier > > 1730 SE County Rd 252 > > Lake City, FL 32025-1703 > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LOVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LOVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >