Hi Bill. York County is a hot bed of Love activity! I have traced lines through Mecklenburg NC seeking to distinguish records for my James Love who moved down from Brunswick County VA. There is another James Love in the same area (Rocky River) of Mecklenburg (now Cabarrus) whose records seem to carry him to or point to York/Union Counties SC. I know the name Robert does not run in the Cabarrus bunch, but have not been able to distinguish this other James Love after he and a likely son John sold land in ca. 1785. Here is what I have and think: James Love and John McEachern moved from Cumberland County NC to Mecklenburg in 1770. In 1769, both James Love and John McEachern are listed in the Cumberland County Tax list. At the same time, same day, in 1770's, James Love, John Love and William Love acquired lands nearby in Mecklenburg. William is living among Donnelsons. In later deeds, John is married to an Elizabeth as is James. When John MecEachern died in the early 1790's, his loose estate indicates notes on "James Love" that are not collectable. Also, in the 1780's, deeds in Cumberland County point back to "John Love of Mecklenburg" and in so doing ties him to the McAllister family of that place. Appears they attended Pine Bluff Presbyterian in Cumberland and therefore may descend from Robert earlier in Bladen. Hugh McAden toured the area (1754) preaching at Rocky River Presbyterian Church near where this James Love lived. In his diary, he states he then traveled to Fishing Creek Presbyterian in now SC where Mr. James Love preached. Looking at old Anson County land records, a James Love lived on "Love's Branch." Also living there was a Campbell.... forget the given name. Back in NC (1782), John Love served as witness for last will and testament of Campbell of same given name... This Campbell seemed to own land first in York or Union SC and then up around Cabarrus NC. It has always been believed that my ancestor James Love previously from VA should be credited with service in the Revolutionary War. This from pay vouchers in 1780's Mecklenburg. But I believe this was actually this other James Love. And then, in 1785, James, John and even William sold their lands in Mecklenburg (now Cabarrus) and disappear! And then ca. 1790, my James Love appears in the same area via Wilkes NC, Stokes NC, and earlier VA. At that point he lives in and around Reed's mine. Would love to know what happened to this other James! George Thomas ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [LOVE-L] NOTES ON DNA TESTING > Mickey and Mary: Thanks for keeping this DNA thing going. I am test kit > #8336, and have a match on all 12 markers to test kit #9179. I have a match on > 11 markers with test kit #8302. I know who these two test kits are from, but > we have not been able to establish a common ancestor. > > In 1996 I engaged Mr. Brent Holcomb, a noted genealogist and author of > genealogy books in South Carolina, to research my known ancestors. Although he made > some general conclusions, and some probabilities, he did not find a definite > tie to any of the York or Chester District Loves in the period from 1800 to > 1810. Mr. Holcomb thought it likely that my ancestors were related to the Love > families that came down to South Carolina from Pennsylvania, but that was only > an assumption after he did his research. > > Here is my known lineage. Anything other than this that I have is strictly > family history or family legend. This is my Love line beginning with me and > working backward to my earliest known ancestor and his siblings, then to > "probable" ancestors and their siblings. > > 1. Joseph William Love, Jr. (III), b. Tulsa, OK March 31, 1928. (me) > 2. Joseph William Love, Sr. (II), b. Bartlett, TX November 30, 1894. > 3. John Blake Love, b. Salado, Bell Co., TX January 15, 1869. > 4. Joseph William Love (I), b. Canton, Madison Co., MS February 1, 1843. > Siblings: > Robert Dickson Love, b. 1835; John Thomas Love, b. 1837; William > G. Love, b. 1839; Margaret Ann Love, b. 1841; Benjamin Franklin Love, b. > 1847. All b. in Madison Co. MS. > 5. John Love, b. Chester or York District, South Carolina July 22, 1808. > Siblings: > Robert Love, b. 1810; James Thompson Love, b. 1815; William > Love, b. 1820; Hattie Love, b. 1822; Henry Dixon Love, b. 1825; Elizabeth Love, b. > 1826, all in Chester or York District, South Carolina. > > The above is the "known" lineage. From here down is the family history or > family legend. > > 6. John Thompson "Blackjack" Love, b. abt 1775, Scotland. Buried Sandy > Flat, Love's Creek, Madison County, MS, on the "old Love place" with his daughters > Hattie and Elizabeth. > Siblings: Robert Love, b. abt 1777; Joseph Love, b. abt 1780; Thomas > Wesley Love, b. abt 1782; James Henry Love, b. abt 1785; all reportedly b. in > Scotland. > > 7. John "Jack" Love, b. abt 1743, Dublin, IRE, m. abt 1770, Stratfordshire, > Scotland. > Said to have married Lucretia "Lorry" ?. Also reported to have a wife named > Anna Uhler, of German extraction. Do not know which, if either, is correct. > > Family history has it that John Thompson "Blackjack" Love married Mary Dixon > (or Dickson) in 1806 in Scotland, and came to South Carolina that same year. > He reportedly had a brother named Joseph who lived on the North/South Carolina > border and had nine sons. This is in written family histories. I have not > located any descendants of that Joseph, but there should be many. > > If any of you can tie into any of this, I would be glad to hear from you. I > am Bill Love of Galveston, Texas. > > > > > > ==== LOVE Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the list, send the word UNSUBSCRIBE to > [email protected] or [email protected] > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >