George, The family you describe sounds like James Love, Sr. who m Elizabeth Crooke. He was b ca 1720 in Brunswick Co., Va. & d Stokes Co., NC. This is Pat Stubblefieds Line according to my notes. And no ties to my line that I've found yet. Son John m Ruth Crooke - son James Allison Love m Mary Elizabeth Ingram & d in Cabarrus Co., NC Big families with big families. Raised their own field hands I think! Later, Lou geothos@bellsouth.net wrote: Mickey, The following is not pertaining to the James Love family who moved from VA through Stokes to now Cabarrus along the Rocky River near where it crosses highway 24-27. Another James Love settled twenty years earlier about ten miles upstream on the Rocky River. His grant was a 1778 Sec. State land grant issued after usold lands of the deceased Arthur Dobbs were taken back by the state. Some of the land in this region was even granted back in the 1750's by Gov. Glenn of SC. This James Love owned land on the south side of Rocky River in the Rocky River Presbyterian Community about a mile west of where Hwy 601 crosses. John Love, (I believe to be son of James) owned land opposite the river from James Love. In the same day, a William Love received a grant for land on Goose Creek about 15 miles south. He had ties to Donnelson and others who moved on through SC. Note that the Catawba and Charleston highway crossed the Rocky River between where the early and later James Love settled. Many from the area moved out down the highway and settled from the Waxaws of SC to the Union County area. I have no idea that this LOVE family is linked to yours. But I do believe it was a large family that lived in Cumberland County NC prior to 1772. I also believe they moved into the Abbeville area of SC ca. 1784. Somewhere down the line, we should be seeing DNA results for this family. I wonder if any LOVE researches have looked into the Abbeville district Love family. George > > From: "Mickey Fournier" > Date: 2007/06/12 Tue AM 10:12:01 EDT > To: , > "'Lou Love'" , > > Subject: RE: Re: [LOVE] Loves of Chester County, SC ca 1800 > > Oh, I won't ever give up! I have spent several days in Chester County and I > thought I had scoured everything. Lou, I know your James and some of his > sons had North Carolina land grants that turned out to be in South Carolina > when the line was straightened out. Could this be your folks in the records > of Mecklenburg? The names are right. > > I have Campbells in Chester and Fairfield Counties, SC, also. Those folks > will drive you totally nuts! > > -----Original Message----- > From: geothos@bellsouth.net [mailto:geothos@bellsouth.net] > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 10:55 PM > To: Mickey Fournier; 'Lou Love'; Love@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Re: [LOVE] Loves of Chester County, SC ca 1800 > > Micky, > > Don't give up. Years ago I spent a summer in the Chester County courthouse > digging through records there in order to try to prove a THOMAS family in > Alabama were kin to David Thomas of Chester. Read every book in the moldy > basement and did not find what I was looking for. On top of the eight foot > cabinets that line the basement, there were piles of old court books. I > climbed up on top of the cabinet and set myself to reading. Sure enough, in > a day book by a judege who was sitting in for a judge who was sick, was > written the names of heirs from the estate of David Thomas and where they > 'now live' ...in Alabama! > > Anyhow, I have always wondered about the LOVE family in Chester/Union County > SC and the James/William/ John Love of Mecklenburg NC. James of Mecklenburg > appeared to be the father...not my James Love of Cabarrus. He received land > in 1772 stating that he was from "Cumberland County NC". I find record of > him there too ...earlier. On the same day, James, William and John all > acquired land in Mecklenburg. They signed a petition about the evils and > fairness of men who were receiving very large grants of land. Then in 1784 > they disappeared. > > These three lived in the area around Rocky River Presbyterian Church in now > Cabarrus. They had attended Pine Bluff Presbyterian in Cumberland NC. > Their neighbors in the Cabarrus area were involved in the buring of Hugh > Waddel's ammo waggon during the regulator movement. In the 1750's, Rev. > Hugh McAden Preached at Rocky River Presbyterian and then down to SC where > he preached and stayed at James Love's on the Broad River. There were > CAMPBELL interation with your LOVE in Chester/Union. There is also a > Campbell family who lived next to this James Love in Cabarrus/Mecklenburg. > > The Morrison family came from PA possibly through eastern nc. I just wonder > if there is a tie to this family? > > All you Loves out there... have any of you worked on the LOVE family who > showed up in Abbeville District SC ca. 1780's? I suspect they are part of > the family of James Love of earlier in Mecklenburg..... > > > > > > > > From: "Mickey Fournier" > > Date: 2007/06/11 Mon PM 09:32:07 EDT > > To: "'Lou Love'" , > > Subject: Re: [LOVE] Loves of Chester County, SC ca 1800 > > > > Lou: > > > > I have been watching the list daily but haven't posted in quite a > > while. I don't have anything new and I am pretty well convinced that > > the "proof" I need to tie John to English Bill will never be found. > > > > I have found a couple of references in Chester County to William > > Love's will...one mention in some land that one of John's son > > sold..but the will itself is not there. Given that Bill was a Tory, > > maybe the family just divided his property according to his wishes and > > didn't file the thing. I just pray that somebody somewhere is in > > possession of the original and that it will surface someday. > > > > Also, I am quite surprised that his property was not confiscated but, > > surprisingly, there is no record of that, either. Maybe it is because > > he had sons and grandsons who were Patriots? The history of that > > family will nearly break your heart! What they went through in that > > war was near unbelieveable. > > > > I know lots of folks are scared to death of having it proven they > > descend from English Bill. I may be the only one who hopes she is! > > > > Nice to hear from you. Are you okay? > > > > Mickey > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: Lou Love [mailto:llove1039@sbcglobal.net] > > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 9:18 PM > > To: Mickey Fournier; Love@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [LOVE] Loves of Chester County, SC ca 1800 > > > > > > Hi Mickey - would be happy to claim you as a "kissin cuzin" - Haven't > > seen you post for a while - like everyone else - takin a break. > > > > I still have all your info in the database - still lookin for connections. > > > > Good Hunting, > > Later, > > Love, Lou > > > > > > > > > > Mickey Fournier wrote: > > > > My John LOVE died in Chester County in 1799 leaving wife Elizabeth > > (almost > > certainly a ROYALL); sons, John Royall, William and Samuel; > daughters > > Mary > > WRIGHT (my ancestor), Elizabeth, Margaret and Jean. The younger > three > > girls > > were unmarried when their father died. > > > > I can build a very good circumstantial case to show that this John > > was the > > son of "English Bill" but there is no real proof of that. > > > > Of John's sons: > > > > (1) John Royall LOVE was a Patriot during the Revolution though he > > was > > pretty young to have been in service. He married Rachel (maiden name > > unk) > > and had two known children: (1) Milton Royall LOVE b. ca 1806, m. > > Mary > > ATTERBERRY, d. 1870 in Noxubee County, MS. A daughter, Lucinda, > > married > > William MINTER, no further info. > > > > (2) William m. Mary KOLB and had known sons, S.J. and Luther and a > > daughter, > > Bettie. I have no info on the children. > > > > (3) Samuel m. Ruth KOLB and they had sons James Kolb LOVE and Royall > > > Kolb > > LOVE. Royall died in 1891 in Louisiana. > > > > I would be happy to share the expense of a DNA test for any LOVE who > > > can > > prove descent from John through any of the sons. At least, I feel > > confident > > that will prove I am Lou's "kissin' cousin." > > > > Mildred "Mickey" Fournier > > 1730 SE County Rd 252 > > Lake City, FL 32025-1703 > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LOVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LOVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >

Oh, I won't ever give up! I have spent several days in Chester County and I thought I had scoured everything. Lou, I know your James and some of his sons had North Carolina land grants that turned out to be in South Carolina when the line was straightened out. Could this be your folks in the records of Mecklenburg? The names are right. I have Campbells in Chester and Fairfield Counties, SC, also. Those folks will drive you totally nuts! -----Original Message----- From: geothos@bellsouth.net [mailto:geothos@bellsouth.net] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 10:55 PM To: Mickey Fournier; 'Lou Love'; Love@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Re: [LOVE] Loves of Chester County, SC ca 1800 Micky, Don't give up. Years ago I spent a summer in the Chester County courthouse digging through records there in order to try to prove a THOMAS family in Alabama were kin to David Thomas of Chester. Read every book in the moldy basement and did not find what I was looking for. On top of the eight foot cabinets that line the basement, there were piles of old court books. I climbed up on top of the cabinet and set myself to reading. Sure enough, in a day book by a judege who was sitting in for a judge who was sick, was written the names of heirs from the estate of David Thomas and where they 'now live' ...in Alabama! Anyhow, I have always wondered about the LOVE family in Chester/Union County SC and the James/William/ John Love of Mecklenburg NC. James of Mecklenburg appeared to be the father...not my James Love of Cabarrus. He received land in 1772 stating that he was from "Cumberland County NC". I find record of him there too ...earlier. On the same day, James, William and John all acquired land in Mecklenburg. They signed a petition about the evils and fairness of men who were receiving very large grants of land. Then in 1784 they disappeared. These three lived in the area around Rocky River Presbyterian Church in now Cabarrus. They had attended Pine Bluff Presbyterian in Cumberland NC. Their neighbors in the Cabarrus area were involved in the buring of Hugh Waddel's ammo waggon during the regulator movement. In the 1750's, Rev. Hugh McAden Preached at Rocky River Presbyterian and then down to SC where he preached and stayed at James Love's on the Broad River. There were CAMPBELL interation with your LOVE in Chester/Union. There is also a Campbell family who lived next to this James Love in Cabarrus/Mecklenburg. The Morrison family came from PA possibly through eastern nc. I just wonder if there is a tie to this family? All you Loves out there... have any of you worked on the LOVE family who showed up in Abbeville District SC ca. 1780's? I suspect they are part of the family of James Love of earlier in Mecklenburg..... > > From: "Mickey Fournier" <mwfournier@comcast.net> > Date: 2007/06/11 Mon PM 09:32:07 EDT > To: "'Lou Love'" <llove1039@sbcglobal.net>, <Love@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [LOVE] Loves of Chester County, SC ca 1800 > > Lou: > > I have been watching the list daily but haven't posted in quite a > while. I don't have anything new and I am pretty well convinced that > the "proof" I need to tie John to English Bill will never be found. > > I have found a couple of references in Chester County to William > Love's will...one mention in some land that one of John's son > sold..but the will itself is not there. Given that Bill was a Tory, > maybe the family just divided his property according to his wishes and > didn't file the thing. I just pray that somebody somewhere is in > possession of the original and that it will surface someday. > > Also, I am quite surprised that his property was not confiscated but, > surprisingly, there is no record of that, either. Maybe it is because > he had sons and grandsons who were Patriots? The history of that > family will nearly break your heart! What they went through in that > war was near unbelieveable. > > I know lots of folks are scared to death of having it proven they > descend from English Bill. I may be the only one who hopes she is! > > Nice to hear from you. Are you okay? > > Mickey > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Lou Love [mailto:llove1039@sbcglobal.net] > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 9:18 PM > To: Mickey Fournier; Love@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LOVE] Loves of Chester County, SC ca 1800 > > > Hi Mickey - would be happy to claim you as a "kissin cuzin" - Haven't > seen you post for a while - like everyone else - takin a break. > > I still have all your info in the database - still lookin for connections. > > Good Hunting, > Later, > Love, Lou > > > > > Mickey Fournier <mwfournier@comcast.net> wrote: > > My John LOVE died in Chester County in 1799 leaving wife Elizabeth > (almost > certainly a ROYALL); sons, John Royall, William and Samuel; daughters > Mary > WRIGHT (my ancestor), Elizabeth, Margaret and Jean. The younger three > girls > were unmarried when their father died. > > I can build a very good circumstantial case to show that this John > was the > son of "English Bill" but there is no real proof of that. > > Of John's sons: > > (1) John Royall LOVE was a Patriot during the Revolution though he > was > pretty young to have been in service. He married Rachel (maiden name > unk) > and had two known children: (1) Milton Royall LOVE b. ca 1806, m. > Mary > ATTERBERRY, d. 1870 in Noxubee County, MS. A daughter, Lucinda, > married > William MINTER, no further info. > > (2) William m. Mary KOLB and had known sons, S.J. and Luther and a > daughter, > Bettie. I have no info on the children. > > (3) Samuel m. Ruth KOLB and they had sons James Kolb LOVE and Royall > Kolb > LOVE. Royall died in 1891 in Louisiana. > > I would be happy to share the expense of a DNA test for any LOVE who > can > prove descent from John through any of the sons. At least, I feel > confident > that will prove I am Lou's "kissin' cousin." > > Mildred "Mickey" Fournier > 1730 SE County Rd 252 > Lake City, FL 32025-1703 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Yes, Mickey - I suppose they could be the same - as you say, the borders were redrawn, more than once, if memeory serves. I have not personnaly researched that aspect, as you certainly have, so I accept the evidence - regardless of what I may [or may not] "know". I've not seen the grants, and with all the James', John's, William's, Robert's, etc around, I don't know how we seperate & identify them with any certainty - it just seems to be an accumulation of data that gives an overwhelming body of evidence that's convincing. So let's keep digging and adding to the evidence. Mickey, you've certainly added to that body of evidence with all the wills you've found, the land grants add to that. Census and tax records, church records, family bibles, & whatever else we can find to nail these folks down to a time and place all seperate and identify our roots. Wow - I'll get off the soapbox now !! Love, Lou Mickey Fournier <mwfournier@comcast.net> wrote: Oh, I won't ever give up! I have spent several days in Chester County and I thought I had scoured everything. Lou, I know your James and some of his sons had North Carolina land grants that turned out to be in South Carolina when the line was straightened out. Could this be your folks in the records of Mecklenburg? The names are right. I have Campbells in Chester and Fairfield Counties, SC, also. Those folks will drive you totally nuts! -----Original Message----- From: geothos@bellsouth.net [mailto:geothos@bellsouth.net] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 10:55 PM To: Mickey Fournier; 'Lou Love'; Love@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Re: [LOVE] Loves of Chester County, SC ca 1800 Micky, Don't give up. Years ago I spent a summer in the Chester County courthouse digging through records there in order to try to prove a THOMAS family in Alabama were kin to David Thomas of Chester. Read every book in the moldy basement and did not find what I was looking for. On top of the eight foot cabinets that line the basement, there were piles of old court books. I climbed up on top of the cabinet and set myself to reading. Sure enough, in a day book by a judege who was sitting in for a judge who was sick, was written the names of heirs from the estate of David Thomas and where they 'now live' ...in Alabama! Anyhow, I have always wondered about the LOVE family in Chester/Union County SC and the James/William/ John Love of Mecklenburg NC. James of Mecklenburg appeared to be the father...not my James Love of Cabarrus. He received land in 1772 stating that he was from "Cumberland County NC". I find record of him there too ...earlier. On the same day, James, William and John all acquired land in Mecklenburg. They signed a petition about the evils and fairness of men who were receiving very large grants of land. Then in 1784 they disappeared. These three lived in the area around Rocky River Presbyterian Church in now Cabarrus. They had attended Pine Bluff Presbyterian in Cumberland NC. Their neighbors in the Cabarrus area were involved in the buring of Hugh Waddel's ammo waggon during the regulator movement. In the 1750's, Rev. Hugh McAden Preached at Rocky River Presbyterian and then down to SC where he preached and stayed at James Love's on the Broad River. There were CAMPBELL interation with your LOVE in Chester/Union. There is also a Campbell family who lived next to this James Love in Cabarrus/Mecklenburg. The Morrison family came from PA possibly through eastern nc. I just wonder if there is a tie to this family? All you Loves out there... have any of you worked on the LOVE family who showed up in Abbeville District SC ca. 1780's? I suspect they are part of the family of James Love of earlier in Mecklenburg..... > > From: "Mickey Fournier" > Date: 2007/06/11 Mon PM 09:32:07 EDT > To: "'Lou Love'" , > Subject: Re: [LOVE] Loves of Chester County, SC ca 1800 > > Lou: > > I have been watching the list daily but haven't posted in quite a > while. I don't have anything new and I am pretty well convinced that > the "proof" I need to tie John to English Bill will never be found. > > I have found a couple of references in Chester County to William > Love's will...one mention in some land that one of John's son > sold..but the will itself is not there. Given that Bill was a Tory, > maybe the family just divided his property according to his wishes and > didn't file the thing. I just pray that somebody somewhere is in > possession of the original and that it will surface someday. > > Also, I am quite surprised that his property was not confiscated but, > surprisingly, there is no record of that, either. Maybe it is because > he had sons and grandsons who were Patriots? The history of that > family will nearly break your heart! What they went through in that > war was near unbelieveable. > > I know lots of folks are scared to death of having it proven they > descend from English Bill. I may be the only one who hopes she is! > > Nice to hear from you. Are you okay? > > Mickey > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Lou Love [mailto:llove1039@sbcglobal.net] > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 9:18 PM > To: Mickey Fournier; Love@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LOVE] Loves of Chester County, SC ca 1800 > > > Hi Mickey - would be happy to claim you as a "kissin cuzin" - Haven't > seen you post for a while - like everyone else - takin a break. > > I still have all your info in the database - still lookin for connections. > > Good Hunting, > Later, > Love, Lou > > > > > Mickey Fournier wrote: > > My John LOVE died in Chester County in 1799 leaving wife Elizabeth > (almost > certainly a ROYALL); sons, John Royall, William and Samuel; daughters > Mary > WRIGHT (my ancestor), Elizabeth, Margaret and Jean. The younger three > girls > were unmarried when their father died. > > I can build a very good circumstantial case to show that this John > was the > son of "English Bill" but there is no real proof of that. > > Of John's sons: > > (1) John Royall LOVE was a Patriot during the Revolution though he > was > pretty young to have been in service. He married Rachel (maiden name > unk) > and had two known children: (1) Milton Royall LOVE b. ca 1806, m. > Mary > ATTERBERRY, d. 1870 in Noxubee County, MS. A daughter, Lucinda, > married > William MINTER, no further info. > > (2) William m. Mary KOLB and had known sons, S.J. and Luther and a > daughter, > Bettie. I have no info on the children. > > (3) Samuel m. Ruth KOLB and they had sons James Kolb LOVE and Royall > Kolb > LOVE. Royall died in 1891 in Louisiana. > > I would be happy to share the expense of a DNA test for any LOVE who > can > prove descent from John through any of the sons. At least, I feel > confident > that will prove I am Lou's "kissin' cousin." > > Mildred "Mickey" Fournier > 1730 SE County Rd 252 > Lake City, FL 32025-1703 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Micky, Don't give up. Years ago I spent a summer in the Chester County courthouse digging through records there in order to try to prove a THOMAS family in Alabama were kin to David Thomas of Chester. Read every book in the moldy basement and did not find what I was looking for. On top of the eight foot cabinets that line the basement, there were piles of old court books. I climbed up on top of the cabinet and set myself to reading. Sure enough, in a day book by a judege who was sitting in for a judge who was sick, was written the names of heirs from the estate of David Thomas and where they 'now live' ...in Alabama! Anyhow, I have always wondered about the LOVE family in Chester/Union County SC and the James/William/ John Love of Mecklenburg NC. James of Mecklenburg appeared to be the father...not my James Love of Cabarrus. He received land in 1772 stating that he was from "Cumberland County NC". I find record of him there too ...earlier. On the same day, James, William and John all acquired land in Mecklenburg. They signed a petition about the evils and fairness of men who were receiving very large grants of land. Then in 1784 they disappeared. These three lived in the area around Rocky River Presbyterian Church in now Cabarrus. They had attended Pine Bluff Presbyterian in Cumberland NC. Their neighbors in the Cabarrus area were involved in the buring of Hugh Waddel's ammo waggon during the regulator movement. In the 1750's, Rev. Hugh McAden Preached at Rocky River Presbyterian and then down to SC where he preached and stayed at James Love's on the Broad River. There were CAMPBELL interation with your LOVE in Chester/Union. There is also a Campbell family who lived next to this James Love in Cabarrus/Mecklenburg. The Morrison family came from PA possibly through eastern nc. I just wonder if there is a tie to this family? All you Loves out there... have any of you worked on the LOVE family who showed up in Abbeville District SC ca. 1780's? I suspect they are part of the family of James Love of earlier in Mecklenburg..... > > From: "Mickey Fournier" <mwfournier@comcast.net> > Date: 2007/06/11 Mon PM 09:32:07 EDT > To: "'Lou Love'" <llove1039@sbcglobal.net>, <Love@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [LOVE] Loves of Chester County, SC ca 1800 > > Lou: > > I have been watching the list daily but haven't posted in quite a while. I > don't have anything new and I am pretty well convinced that the "proof" I > need to tie John to English Bill will never be found. > > I have found a couple of references in Chester County to William Love's > will...one mention in some land that one of John's son sold..but the will > itself is not there. Given that Bill was a Tory, maybe the family just > divided his property according to his wishes and didn't file the thing. I > just pray that somebody somewhere is in possession of the original and that > it will surface someday. > > Also, I am quite surprised that his property was not confiscated but, > surprisingly, there is no record of that, either. Maybe it is because he > had sons and grandsons who were Patriots? The history of that family will > nearly break your heart! What they went through in that war was near > unbelieveable. > > I know lots of folks are scared to death of having it proven they descend > from English Bill. I may be the only one who hopes she is! > > Nice to hear from you. Are you okay? > > Mickey > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Lou Love [mailto:llove1039@sbcglobal.net] > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 9:18 PM > To: Mickey Fournier; Love@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LOVE] Loves of Chester County, SC ca 1800 > > > Hi Mickey - would be happy to claim you as a "kissin cuzin" - > Haven't seen you post for a while - like everyone else - takin a break. > > I still have all your info in the database - still lookin for connections. > > Good Hunting, > Later, > Love, Lou > > > > > Mickey Fournier <mwfournier@comcast.net> wrote: > > My John LOVE died in Chester County in 1799 leaving wife Elizabeth > (almost > certainly a ROYALL); sons, John Royall, William and Samuel; > daughters Mary > WRIGHT (my ancestor), Elizabeth, Margaret and Jean. The younger > three girls > were unmarried when their father died. > > I can build a very good circumstantial case to show that this John > was the > son of "English Bill" but there is no real proof of that. > > Of John's sons: > > (1) John Royall LOVE was a Patriot during the Revolution though he > was > pretty young to have been in service. He married Rachel (maiden name > unk) > and had two known children: (1) Milton Royall LOVE b. ca 1806, m. > Mary > ATTERBERRY, d. 1870 in Noxubee County, MS. A daughter, Lucinda, > married > William MINTER, no further info. > > (2) William m. Mary KOLB and had known sons, S.J. and Luther and a > daughter, > Bettie. I have no info on the children. > > (3) Samuel m. Ruth KOLB and they had sons James Kolb LOVE and Royall > Kolb > LOVE. Royall died in 1891 in Louisiana. > > I would be happy to share the expense of a DNA test for any LOVE who > can > prove descent from John through any of the sons. At least, I feel > confident > that will prove I am Lou's "kissin' cousin." > > Mildred "Mickey" Fournier > 1730 SE County Rd 252 > Lake City, FL 32025-1703 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello All. I am still trying to break the brick wall around my great-great grandmother, MARY JANE LOVE. She was born about 1815 probably in Sumner Co TN, and in 1846 married ALLEN JONES in Sumner Co TN (I have a copy of the certificate). Their first few children were born in Sumner Co TN and the family then moved to Butler Co Ky by 1860 when my great-grandmother, MARGARET E JONES was born. Margaret complicates my research by marrying another Sumner Co TN JONES boy, Isaac A. Jones in Butler Co KY in Sept of 1882 ( I have that certificate). So I have a LOVE wall and a double JONES wall. Can anyone help me with MARY JANE LOVE? The family was friends with Campbells, and Wrights. Also, Isaac's parents were WILEY JONES and MARY NEAL, who I believe to be the daughter of BRITTON JONES NEAL (yet another Jones family?) and ELIZABETH 'BETSEY' MCNEELY. I would be grateful for any ideas, suggestions, fantasies, ... Alexis > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVE- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVE- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Lou: I have been watching the list daily but haven't posted in quite a while. I don't have anything new and I am pretty well convinced that the "proof" I need to tie John to English Bill will never be found. I have found a couple of references in Chester County to William Love's will...one mention in some land that one of John's son sold..but the will itself is not there. Given that Bill was a Tory, maybe the family just divided his property according to his wishes and didn't file the thing. I just pray that somebody somewhere is in possession of the original and that it will surface someday. Also, I am quite surprised that his property was not confiscated but, surprisingly, there is no record of that, either. Maybe it is because he had sons and grandsons who were Patriots? The history of that family will nearly break your heart! What they went through in that war was near unbelieveable. I know lots of folks are scared to death of having it proven they descend from English Bill. I may be the only one who hopes she is! Nice to hear from you. Are you okay? Mickey ________________________________ From: Lou Love [mailto:llove1039@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 9:18 PM To: Mickey Fournier; Love@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LOVE] Loves of Chester County, SC ca 1800 Hi Mickey - would be happy to claim you as a "kissin cuzin" - Haven't seen you post for a while - like everyone else - takin a break. I still have all your info in the database - still lookin for connections. Good Hunting, Later, Love, Lou Mickey Fournier <mwfournier@comcast.net> wrote: My John LOVE died in Chester County in 1799 leaving wife Elizabeth (almost certainly a ROYALL); sons, John Royall, William and Samuel; daughters Mary WRIGHT (my ancestor), Elizabeth, Margaret and Jean. The younger three girls were unmarried when their father died. I can build a very good circumstantial case to show that this John was the son of "English Bill" but there is no real proof of that. Of John's sons: (1) John Royall LOVE was a Patriot during the Revolution though he was pretty young to have been in service. He married Rachel (maiden name unk) and had two known children: (1) Milton Royall LOVE b. ca 1806, m. Mary ATTERBERRY, d. 1870 in Noxubee County, MS. A daughter, Lucinda, married William MINTER, no further info. (2) William m. Mary KOLB and had known sons, S.J. and Luther and a daughter, Bettie. I have no info on the children. (3) Samuel m. Ruth KOLB and they had sons James Kolb LOVE and Royall Kolb LOVE. Royall died in 1891 in Louisiana. I would be happy to share the expense of a DNA test for any LOVE who can prove descent from John through any of the sons. At least, I feel confident that will prove I am Lou's "kissin' cousin." Mildred "Mickey" Fournier 1730 SE County Rd 252 Lake City, FL 32025-1703 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Alexis - I have several Mary Jane Love listings but none that I can match up with yours. I have 1 Allen Jones [No Dates] - parents are Cornelius Jones & Bessie Leitner.Her parents are in SC & Fla. - so don't think they're yours. Good Hunting, Love, Lou A Mauldin <alexis@ilovedixie.com> wrote: Hello All. I am still trying to break the brick wall around my great-great grandmother, MARY JANE LOVE. She was born about 1815 probably in Sumner Co TN, and in 1846 married ALLEN JONES in Sumner Co TN (I have a copy of the certificate). Their first few children were born in Sumner Co TN and the family then moved to Butler Co Ky by 1860 when my great-grandmother, MARGARET E JONES was born. Margaret complicates my research by marrying another Sumner Co TN JONES boy, Isaac A. Jones in Butler Co KY in Sept of 1882 ( I have that certificate). So I have a LOVE wall and a double JONES wall. Can anyone help me with MARY JANE LOVE? The family was friends with Campbells, and Wrights. Also, Isaac's parents were WILEY JONES and MARY NEAL, who I believe to be the daughter of BRITTON JONES NEAL (yet another Jones family?) and ELIZABETH 'BETSEY' MCNEELY. I would be grateful for any ideas, suggestions, fantasies, ... Alexis > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVE- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVE- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My John LOVE died in Chester County in 1799 leaving wife Elizabeth (almost certainly a ROYALL); sons, John Royall, William and Samuel; daughters Mary WRIGHT (my ancestor), Elizabeth, Margaret and Jean. The younger three girls were unmarried when their father died. I can build a very good circumstantial case to show that this John was the son of "English Bill" but there is no real proof of that. Of John's sons: (1) John Royall LOVE was a Patriot during the Revolution though he was pretty young to have been in service. He married Rachel (maiden name unk) and had two known children: (1) Milton Royall LOVE b. ca 1806, m. Mary ATTERBERRY, d. 1870 in Noxubee County, MS. A daughter, Lucinda, married William MINTER, no further info. (2) William m. Mary KOLB and had known sons, S.J. and Luther and a daughter, Bettie. I have no info on the children. (3) Samuel m. Ruth KOLB and they had sons James Kolb LOVE and Royall Kolb LOVE. Royall died in 1891 in Louisiana. I would be happy to share the expense of a DNA test for any LOVE who can prove descent from John through any of the sons. At least, I feel confident that will prove I am Lou's "kissin' cousin." Mildred "Mickey" Fournier 1730 SE County Rd 252 Lake City, FL 32025-1703

Guess while we're on the subject... my LOVES: William b. 1853 NY m. Julia Isted b. 1853 NY kids: George (m. Cora Levi), Albert, James, Florence (m. James King), Henry/Harry (m. Bertha Talmage), Charles, Thomas

Hi Mickey - would be happy to claim you as a "kissin cuzin" - Haven't seen you post for a while - like everyone else - takin a break. I still have all your info in the database - still lookin for connections. Good Hunting, Later, Love, Lou Mickey Fournier <mwfournier@comcast.net> wrote: My John LOVE died in Chester County in 1799 leaving wife Elizabeth (almost certainly a ROYALL); sons, John Royall, William and Samuel; daughters Mary WRIGHT (my ancestor), Elizabeth, Margaret and Jean. The younger three girls were unmarried when their father died. I can build a very good circumstantial case to show that this John was the son of "English Bill" but there is no real proof of that. Of John's sons: (1) John Royall LOVE was a Patriot during the Revolution though he was pretty young to have been in service. He married Rachel (maiden name unk) and had two known children: (1) Milton Royall LOVE b. ca 1806, m. Mary ATTERBERRY, d. 1870 in Noxubee County, MS. A daughter, Lucinda, married William MINTER, no further info. (2) William m. Mary KOLB and had known sons, S.J. and Luther and a daughter, Bettie. I have no info on the children. (3) Samuel m. Ruth KOLB and they had sons James Kolb LOVE and Royall Kolb LOVE. Royall died in 1891 in Louisiana. I would be happy to share the expense of a DNA test for any LOVE who can prove descent from John through any of the sons. At least, I feel confident that will prove I am Lou's "kissin' cousin." Mildred "Mickey" Fournier 1730 SE County Rd 252 Lake City, FL 32025-1703 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Wish I could help Rhonda - but all I have in my database came from You. Keeping my eyes open, Good Huntimg, Love, Lou rhonda.love@utoronto.ca wrote: Hello Cousins: I've written before but have not been able to get beyond Nancy Dewitt and Isaac Love. Their families are from Hardin County. They were married there in 1849. I think that Nancy's father might have been James Dewitt who is in the Virginia 1810 census, but I don't know for sure. Rhonda Love ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Family Group Sheet ========================================================================================== Husband: James LOVE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Birth: 15 Jun 1770 Steelville, Chester Co., Pennsylvania Death: 30 Oct 1856 Brunswick, Peoria Co., Illinois Marriage: 18 Oct 1791 Brandywine Manor Church, Chester Co., Pennsylvania Father: Capt. Thomas LOVE (1739-1825) Mother: Martha GUTHRIE (1746-1838) ========================================================================================== Wife: Mary GUTHRIE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Birth: 18 Mar 1770 Chester Co., Pennsylvania Death: 20 Sep 1849 Burial: abt 23 Sep 1849Faggs Manor Cemetery, Cochranville, Chester Co., Pennsy Father: Adam GUTHRIE ( - ) Mother: Mercy MRS. GUTHRIE ( - ) ========================================================================================== Children ========================================================================================== 1 M Thomas LOVE Birth: 1796 Death: 1879 Spouse: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2 M John Adam LOVE Birth: 18 Apr 1800 Faggs Manor Parish, Cochranville, Chester Co., Pennsylv Death: 23 Feb 1883 Brunswick, Peoria Co., Illinois Spouse: Anna Marie MCCLELLAN (1813-1899) Marriage: 15 Oct 1836 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 3 M James LOVE Jr. Birth: 18 May 1804 Death: 2 Jun 1880 Spouse: Elizabeth McClure THOMPSON (1804-1833) Marriage: abt 1825 Spouse: Martha W. MCNAIR ( - ) Marriage: abt 1834 ========================================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ FAMILY NOTES ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Marriage (18 Oct 1791): (1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ HUSBAND NOTES: James LOVE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Death (30 Oct 1856): (1) General: Married Oct. 18, 1791 in Brandywine Manor Church (2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ WIFE NOTES: Mary GUTHRIE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ General: [Brøderbund WFT Vol. 10, Ed. 1, Tree #2495, Date of Import: Jul 7, 1998] ============================== Buried at Faggs Manor Cemetery, Chester Co.,PA. By husband James Love. No dates on his tombstone. ============================= LOVE, Mary wife of James Love dau. of Adam and Mercy Guthrie mother of five sons and sev daughters b. Mar. 15, 1770 d. Sept. 20. 1849 ===================================(2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ CHILD NOTES: Thomas LOVE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ General: (3) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ SOURCES ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1. Mary Alley majiea@earthlink.net E-MAIL - PERSONAL INFO. 2. Descendants of ROBERT LOVE d. 1741 E-Mail = malove [Martha] He's Bill !!. 3. LOVE FAMILY QUARTERLY - 4/57. "capnjeep@att.net" <capnjeep@att.net> wrote: Sorry... Rev Tom Love was long-time pastor of and is buried at Red Clay Creek Church near Newark DE. Have attached a different copy of gravestone pix that may be differently readable. Fred

Hello Cousins: I've written before but have not been able to get beyond Nancy Dewitt and Isaac Love. Their families are from Hardin County. They were married there in 1849. I think that Nancy's father might have been James Dewitt who is in the Virginia 1810 census, but I don't know for sure. Rhonda Love

Yes Fred that is easier to read & here's the FGS for Thomas [Rev Thomas??] ===================== Brunswick, Peoria Co., IllinoisFamily Group Sheet ========================================================================================== Father: Thomas LOVE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Birth: 1796 Death: 1879 Father: James LOVE (1770-1856) Mother: Mary GUTHRIE (1770-1849) ========================================================================================== Mother: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ========================================================================================== Children ========================================================================================== 1 F Mary E. LOVE Birth: 1825 Death: 1913 ========================================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ FATHER NOTES: Thomas LOVE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ General: (1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ CHILD NOTES: Mary E. LOVE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ General: (1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ SOURCES ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1. LOVE FAMILY QUARTERLY - 4/57. "capnjeep@att.net" <capnjeep@att.net> wrote: Sorry... Rev Tom Love was long-time pastor of and is buried at Red Clay Creek Church near Newark DE. Have attached a different copy of gravestone pix that may be differently readable. Fred

Fred, Have you searched the names "Josiah Perre or Perry" and "Joseph Crawford?" There was a Joseph Crawford who lived in Cabarrus not far from where the LOVE family lived. He is buried at Poplar Tent Presbyterian. During lunch today, I found the following on him: Crawford, Jamima of Cabarrus County, dau of Joseph Crawford, deceased, and Col. James A. Grier, formerly of Mecklenburg County on January 16,1849 in Marshall County, Mississippi by Rev. Daniel H. Clayton. Try googling up variants of those names in Cabarrus, SC, GA and NC. George > > From: "Fred" <fred.love@mchsi.com> > Date: 2007/06/11 Mon AM 11:43:14 EDT > To: <Love@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [LOVE] Loves in Campbell Co., GA 1830 > > In a continuing effort to break down my "Brickwall" I would like to contact > anyone with Love family in Georgia. > > I'm hoping to find information about the 2 sons of James and Elizabeth Love > and perhaps their descendants may know the birthplace of James and > Elizabeth. > > James and family are listed in the 1830 US Census of Campbell County > Georgia. I believe this is my James as his will was probated there in 1834. > > I have a copy of the will. He names Elizabeth as his wife and his 2 sons by > her. They are Josiah Perre Love and Joseph Crafford Love. > > The census shows 1 male of the right age to be James, over 60 and under 70. > One female is listed as over 40 and under 50. > Two males are listed, 1 being under 5 and the other being over 5 but under > 10. > > This fits with the will where James lists them as "my 2 young sons" where he > gave them each one third of his estate and one third to his wife. > > Since Elizabeth was left with 2 sons under 10 years of age and she was under > 50 it is safe to believe that she married after James died in 1834 and it > may be that the sons were adopted or took the name of the man she married. > > Fred Love, L.O.M. > USAF, Retired > __________________________ > > Genealogy: where you confuse the dead and irritate the living. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Does anyone out there in the Love community have any ancestors that came from Ireland around 1770? My ancestor came into Rockbridge, VA. He could have come with relatives, not sure. Also looking for someone who has info on Susan Love, born to Thomas Love and Roseanna McClure of Meigs, Ohio around 1800. Thanks, Lisa

In a continuing effort to break down my "Brickwall" I would like to contact anyone with Love family in Georgia. I'm hoping to find information about the 2 sons of James and Elizabeth Love and perhaps their descendants may know the birthplace of James and Elizabeth. James and family are listed in the 1830 US Census of Campbell County Georgia. I believe this is my James as his will was probated there in 1834. I have a copy of the will. He names Elizabeth as his wife and his 2 sons by her. They are Josiah Perre Love and Joseph Crafford Love. The census shows 1 male of the right age to be James, over 60 and under 70. One female is listed as over 40 and under 50. Two males are listed, 1 being under 5 and the other being over 5 but under 10. This fits with the will where James lists them as "my 2 young sons" where he gave them each one third of his estate and one third to his wife. Since Elizabeth was left with 2 sons under 10 years of age and she was under 50 it is safe to believe that she married after James died in 1834 and it may be that the sons were adopted or took the name of the man she married. Fred Love, L.O.M. USAF, Retired __________________________ Genealogy: where you confuse the dead and irritate the living.

Hey Fred - still lookin' but haven't found anything for you. Good hunting, Love, Lou Fred <fred.love@mchsi.com> wrote: In a continuing effort to break down my "Brickwall" I would like to contact anyone with Love family in Georgia. I'm hoping to find information about the 2 sons of James and Elizabeth Love and perhaps their descendants may know the birthplace of James and Elizabeth. James and family are listed in the 1830 US Census of Campbell County Georgia. I believe this is my James as his will was probated there in 1834. I have a copy of the will. He names Elizabeth as his wife and his 2 sons by her. They are Josiah Perre Love and Joseph Crafford Love. The census shows 1 male of the right age to be James, over 60 and under 70. One female is listed as over 40 and under 50. Two males are listed, 1 being under 5 and the other being over 5 but under 10. This fits with the will where James lists them as "my 2 young sons" where he gave them each one third of his estate and one third to his wife. Since Elizabeth was left with 2 sons under 10 years of age and she was under 50 it is safe to believe that she married after James died in 1834 and it may be that the sons were adopted or took the name of the man she married. Fred Love, L.O.M. USAF, Retired __________________________ Genealogy: where you confuse the dead and irritate the living. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry I can't help Lisa - I have none of those folks in my database. Good Hunting, Love, Lou Lisa Shaffer <officmgr@sssnet.com> wrote: Does anyone out there in the Love community have any ancestors that came from Ireland around 1770? My ancestor came into Rockbridge, VA. He could have come with relatives, not sure. Also looking for someone who has info on Susan Love, born to Thomas Love and Roseanna McClure of Meigs, Ohio around 1800. Thanks, Lisa ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, My LOVEs come from Saltcoats in Ayrshire, Scotland. The earliest I have is James Love who married Jean Auld in 1796 in Saltcoats - they had 7 known children (William, John, Robert, Ann, Hugh, Jean, Helen). The family were weavers. Any connections? Best wishes ... Ann