I read Lou and Galen's notes about James the Weaver and his sons James, John, Robert, William and Alexander, hoping that one of the listers will mention their William Love born about 1746 in Tyronne County, or write about his wife Isabella Swansey or their children, Martha, Robert, Hugh, Jennett, John, Isabella, Andrew and William. They are all born in York County, South Carolina but I can't connect them with anyone in or around Pennyslvania. Otherwise, William Love will be back on the top of my to do list when I return to Salt Lake City again in October. Henry Hanson College Station, TX.

Hi Cuzin Galen: I'm Louis E. Love & your cuzin Wasllace K. Love [sister Barbara Marshall] did the yDNA study & matched my yDNA test. SO - we are related somewhere back up the line. I'm going thru my database looking for possible Robert Love connections - but we may be related several hundred years back in Scotland or Ireland & never know who may be the missing link. My line traces back to James Love, the weaver, b 1704 and is of Scots/Irish ancestry. Whether he was b in Ireland or Penn. is debatable. James had 4 brothers that we know of - John, who stayed in PA., Robert, William & Alexander who came south to SC with James. They all had many sons & all had a Robert. Robert the son of James was b 1728. Robert s/o John was b 1734 & d 1828 - but he m Jeannette White 1757 - had 13 Children - among them - Robert b 1767 - Jane b 1761 - but no Mary. Robert Jr s/o Robert was b 1744 - m Sarah McDowell - d 1779 Robert s/o Alexander b ca 1761 - I have no further info on him We don't know much about the William 'English Bill" family. He may have had a son Robert, but we don't have the data. Wish I could be more helpful. Have you communicated with Barbara Marshall? Look forward to comparing notes. Love, Lou Louis E. Love, O.D. gmjlove@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hello, everyone. My name is Galen Robert Love, and I'm new to the mailing list. I recently traced my direct paternal line back to Robert Love (1734 - 17 Dec 1826, buried in Presbyterian Cemetery, Emmitsburg, Frederick Co., Md). Robert was married to Jane (1744-1817), and his children were Robert Love (b 1776), Jain Love (b 1778), and Mary Love (b 1786). Have any of the rest of you traced back to this same Robert Love? I haven't been able to find any information on who his parents were or where he was from -- can anyone shed some light on this? For reference, one site that I ran across mentioned another individual named Leonard Love (born abt 1746, d 1820 in Bracken, KY). The site said that Leonard married Elizabeth Veares? in Frederick, MD in about 1767. Leonard's marriage date and location make me wonder if he might have been a brother to the Robert Love I'm researching. The site I mentioned above that referenced Leonard Love is http://www.wisdomlove.com/lovednaproject/info/researchersinfo2.html. Any help is greatly apprecited. Thanks, Galen Robert Love ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, everyone. My name is Galen Robert Love, and I'm new to the mailing list. I recently traced my direct paternal line back to Robert Love (1734 - 17 Dec 1826, buried in Presbyterian Cemetery, Emmitsburg, Frederick Co., Md). Robert was married to Jane (1744-1817), and his children were Robert Love (b 1776), Jain Love (b 1778), and Mary Love (b 1786). Have any of the rest of you traced back to this same Robert Love? I haven't been able to find any information on who his parents were or where he was from -- can anyone shed some light on this? For reference, one site that I ran across mentioned another individual named Leonard Love (born abt 1746, d 1820 in Bracken, KY). The site said that Leonard married Elizabeth Veares? in Frederick, MD in about 1767. Leonard's marriage date and location make me wonder if he might have been a brother to the Robert Love I'm researching. The site I mentioned above that referenced Leonard Love is http://www.wisdomlove.com/lovednaproject/info/researchersinfo2.html. Any help is greatly apprecited. Thanks, Galen Robert Love

Does anyone know if Bryson is still on our list - or have a current address for him? Thanks, Lou

Mary A. Nappier Love (b) about 1822 in Tennessee and married to Lee Love (b) about 1835. Info on this family at: http://www.afpn-news.com/love Fred Love ==================== Genealogy: where you confuse the dead and irritate the living.

I have a new website for all the Loves that have been dna tested and would like to share their test result and family history. If you are a male Love, no matter what lab you used to test and no matter where in the world you are located, I would like to hear from you. Go to the site and see what we are doing: http://www.afpn-news.com/love Fred Love fredlove@afpn-news.com

All, I received this in email.. thought it might interest someone in the group. Brentwood, Tenn. June 23 Middle Tennessee Genealogical Society Seminar For more information, visit www.mtgs.org Thanks, Frances

I have updated the researchers page with all the new requests for information. We have added at least two or three new family tree data for tested participants. Do we have any one with information we could put up for Group 7? My husband is in Group 8 so I will add a link for our information. If you are in the ungrouped section, consider putting up your information. It would be great if we could add more information online. At this time, if you are tested elsewhere your info will have to be put up on a separate page. I also believe Fred is putting together a different website to record these and others as well. Please contact him. If you have a link posted for your family tree data for the new page and you want to edit your own page, send me an email and I will send you your login information. I have sent out those already requested, so if you did not get your information, drop me an email I may have overlooked your request. Thanks, Frances Frances Love DNA Project Coordinator http://lovednaproject.googlepages.com/home

If you are a "Love" and willing to share your dna test results (no matter where you did the test) and your family tree, please email me at this address: fredlove@afpn-news.com Fred Love ==================== Genealogy: where you confuse the dead and irritate the living.

Ok.. Here is the official rollout of the new website. It is still in work. Changes.. - The link is now http://lovednaproject.googlepages.com/home - Researchers will now have their own page. I am creating a page per kit. For those who have posted their info on the other page, you will automatically have one on the new page without anything being done. - With the new page, each member who has a page will have the ability to maintain it on their own if they wish. I am creating an account, so if you are interested, email me I will send you how to get to the page, your log in information and password. If you do not wish to maintain your page, it will remain the same just a bit more "snazzy" looking. - For those who do not have their info posted online yet but wish to, email me with your info and i will create a page for you. Again, basic just the info you send, but you can choose to update it once its setup. I appreciate everyone's patience about the website.. I have about 10 more pages to create for researchers so over the next weekend I hope to have it complete. I have a couple of links that no longer work on the links page. If those are your page, please let me know if you have changed address or if you want the link removed. Thanks, Frances Love DNA Project Coordinator

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pslove91 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.love/2348.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I guess no luck thank you for looking the info up for me Thanks again Sondra Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I sent this yesterday, but since it has not shown up am sending it again. If this is a duplicate msg, I apologize. Beverly Here is my line as I know it at this time. Pat Stubblefield and I share early lines, but I still need help. James Love, Sr b ca 1720 married Elizabeth James Love Jr. b ca 1740 married Mary Elizabeth Ingram Charles Love b ca 1765 - probably Brunswick Co. Virginia marr Fereby Osborne - d/o Christopher Osborne & Sarah McGruder Charles Love, Jr b abt 1810 in N.C. marr - Sarah "Sally" Hardin - d/o David Hardin and Hannah Roberts. >From here it is not completely documented, but it is I believe correct unless proven wrong. There is a Charles Love in the 1840 Cass Co. Georgia census, that very likely is my Charles. I have been unable to locate either Charles Jr, or Sarah any other location. It is known that Charles older brother John, married Rebecca Hardin, an older sister of Sarah. If the Charles Love in 1840 is mine, one of the male children would be my Gr Grandfather, John Ingram Love, born 1830. Still looking for 1 other male, and 3 female children in this family. In the 1850 Murray Co. Georgia census, is Mary Hardin, widow of John Hardin, a brother to both Rebecca Hardin Love, and Sarah Hardin Love. With her is a John I Love, age 20. (Ancestry has this listed as John J Love, and I have been unsuccessful in asking them to correct it.) In 1860, John I is married and living in Gordon Co. Georgia. If I am wrong in my analysis, I welcome suggestions or corrections. A huge thank you to George Thomas in assisting me to get where I am. I have tried to be brief, and there are numerous individuals in that area, that have links to the Loves, and have intermarried with them. Still missing is my Charles and Sarah. John Ingram Love b 1830 in N.C. marr 1st Joiney 2nd Sportana Bobo William Henderson Love, b 19 Jan 1851 Gordon Co. Georgia Rosa Baker b 28 July 1860 Virginia Elsie M Love, b 20 May 1896, Prescott, Arizona Me Beverly Johnson Shuck - Kit 17221

Lou: Question - could the Robert who died 1784 and who had Clayton Rogers as his administrator have been a brother to your James and "my" English Bill? Somebody sent me a list of his descendants once and they listed a son, Robert Jr., b. ca 1717. I didn't know we had determined the parentage of Benjamin! I had always sort of thought he might be kin to us. He was surely a neighbor of our guys. Thanks a bunch, Mickey _____ From: Lou Love [mailto:llove1039@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 7:33 PM To: Mickey Fournier Subject: Re: [LOVE] Loves of York County, SC Mickey - don't know if this will help - but here's what I've found. [1] I don't recognize the Robert & Mary Love but Sadler is familiar - two of "English Bill's" kids married Sadlers - their father was William - not Richard - but may be related [2] Robert Love - dau Maglen - is son of William Love & Louisa Trunbloom/Turnbloom of Lunenburg Co., VA. AND I THINK this Clayton Rogers could be the father of Hannah Miles Rogers who m Charles Lockert. The Lockerts & Loves had lots of connections. Also Benj. Franklin Love [son of above William & Louisa] had dau. Elizabeth who m Richard Love [noted "No Kin" in notes] Richard was a son of James Love & Jennett Harrison and gr-son of James, "the weaver". Hope that helps. Love, Lou Mickey Fournier <mwfournier@comcast.net> wrote: Can somebody enlighten me as to who these Loves were and what, if any, relationship they had to the Loves of Chester County, SC? >From "Camden District, SC Wills and Administrations 1781-1787 (1770-1796)" by Brent Holcomb and Elmer Parker, Southern Historical Press, 1978. Love, Robert Apt. 41, pkg. 1475 Mary Love applied for admn. And citation was read at Bullocks Creek 9 Jun 1784 by Joseph Alexander, V.D.M., but he lost her application. Bond: Mary Love, admx, Clayton Rogers (*), sec., 4 Jun 1784. Wit. Richard Sadler, Mathew Rogers. Inventory by Clayton Rogers, Thomas Robbins, Stewart Brown (**), 10 Aug 1784. Book accounts: Robert Tindall, James Hamilton, Andrew Woods, John Anderson. ------------------ *Is this the same Clayton Rogers who was co-executor of John Love who d. 1799 in Chester and who witnessed the will of John Love who d. 1802 in Chester? If so, he was married to Beatrice/Betridge Sadler, dau of Isaac Sadler of Chester. ** In 1808, Stewart Brown witnessed the will of James Love, son of Benjamin. He or another of the same name was in Morgan County, AL in 1821 and was appointed guardian of the grandchildren of the John Love who died in 1799 in Chester. ----------------- Love, Robert, Apt. 41, pkg. 1476 Will of Robert Love of Craven County, Camden District..to son in law Robert Barnet, stone horse and gelding. To grandson Robert Barnet 100 ac on Morris Creek adj. Reuben Harrison. To daughter Maglen Love, 100 ac I now live on. To Mary Love, daughter of Jacob Love, one heifer. Executors friend John Witherspoon and Isaac Love. Will signed 19 Jan 1779. Wit: John Burns, Dennis Burns, John Aldridg Proved by John Burns 10 Oct 1779 before Joseph Mickle, J.P. Appraisers sworn 10 Nov 1779: Nicholas Peay, James Harrison, Wm. Harrison. Warrant of appraisment dated 22 Jan 1779. Inventory 19 Nov 1779, 36,500 pounds. Mildred "Mickey" Fournier 1730 SE County Rd 252 Lake City, FL 32025-1703 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The followins message was for Bob who sent information on the Love/King connection back in 1999. However, his e-mail is no longer any good. If anyone else on the Love list has this same set of Love's, I will be glad to send the information on Agness Love, dau. of John Love and Margaret "Peggy" King Love. Betty Mc 9:57 PM Subject: Love/King Hi: Lou Love sent me some information on my Love family and it looks like you may have been the one who sent it to him, or to the Love list. I descend down through John Love who married Margaret "Peggy" King Love, through their daughter, Agness Love. Agness Love had an illegitimate child, Mahalia Elizabeth Johnson Willcoxson. The father was John Johnson, Jr. of Wilkes County. A relative of mine hired a genealogist to research this for her. The genealogist said that John Johnson acknowledged Mahalia Elizabeth, and that he supported her, but Agness and John Johnson did not marry. Later, Agness married Isaac Willcoxson, and they had other children. Mahalia Eliz. went by the last name of Willcoxson. If you sent the information to the Love family which one of the sons of John and Margaret "Peggy" Love do you descend down from? If you are interested I can give you the information from Mahala Elizabeth on down. I also have some information on the King family, parents of Margaret "Peggy" Kind Love. Would like to hear from you and exchange information. Betty McCollum ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Can somebody enlighten me as to who these Loves were and what, if any, relationship they had to the Loves of Chester County, SC? >From "Camden District, SC Wills and Administrations 1781-1787 (1770-1796)" by Brent Holcomb and Elmer Parker, Southern Historical Press, 1978. Love, Robert Apt. 41, pkg. 1475 Mary Love applied for admn. And citation was read at Bullocks Creek 9 Jun 1784 by Joseph Alexander, V.D.M., but he lost her application. Bond: Mary Love, admx, Clayton Rogers (*), sec., 4 Jun 1784. Wit. Richard Sadler, Mathew Rogers. Inventory by Clayton Rogers, Thomas Robbins, Stewart Brown (**), 10 Aug 1784. Book accounts: Robert Tindall, James Hamilton, Andrew Woods, John Anderson. ------------------ *Is this the same Clayton Rogers who was co-executor of John Love who d. 1799 in Chester and who witnessed the will of John Love who d. 1802 in Chester? If so, he was married to Beatrice/Betridge Sadler, dau of Isaac Sadler of Chester. ** In 1808, Stewart Brown witnessed the will of James Love, son of Benjamin. He or another of the same name was in Morgan County, AL in 1821 and was appointed guardian of the grandchildren of the John Love who died in 1799 in Chester. ----------------- Love, Robert, Apt. 41, pkg. 1476 Will of Robert Love of Craven County, Camden District..to son in law Robert Barnet, stone horse and gelding. To grandson Robert Barnet 100 ac on Morris Creek adj. Reuben Harrison. To daughter Maglen Love, 100 ac I now live on. To Mary Love, daughter of Jacob Love, one heifer. Executors friend John Witherspoon and Isaac Love. Will signed 19 Jan 1779. Wit: John Burns, Dennis Burns, John Aldridg Proved by John Burns 10 Oct 1779 before Joseph Mickle, J.P. Appraisers sworn 10 Nov 1779: Nicholas Peay, James Harrison, Wm. Harrison. Warrant of appraisment dated 22 Jan 1779. Inventory 19 Nov 1779, 36,500 pounds. Mildred "Mickey" Fournier 1730 SE County Rd 252 Lake City, FL 32025-1703

Great work Frances - Thanks again Love, LOu F Love <fwlove@charter.net> wrote: Family Tree DNA now offers a very useful tool that will make my updating the results page much easier. Here is the new results page, http://www.familytreedna.com/public/LoveDNA/index.aspx?fixed_columns=on, if I did not group you with someone you match, please let me know. I did put in everyone that was on the other page and added the new ones that were very obvious. If I missed you, please forgive me and just shoot me an email. I will be updating the other pages I maintain on my website soon. I am looking into some new tools/formats to make it easier. While the FTDNA website is great for those who test through their service, we have at least one member on the list who has contacted me to be included that was tested through another service. So there may have to be two results sets maintained. If you have not uploaded your DNA results to Ysearch yet, there is a way to do this via your FTDNA web page. Frances Love DNA Project Coordinator ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Family Tree DNA now offers a very useful tool that will make my updating the results page much easier. Here is the new results page, http://www.familytreedna.com/public/LoveDNA/index.aspx?fixed_columns=on, if I did not group you with someone you match, please let me know. I did put in everyone that was on the other page and added the new ones that were very obvious. If I missed you, please forgive me and just shoot me an email. I will be updating the other pages I maintain on my website soon. I am looking into some new tools/formats to make it easier. While the FTDNA website is great for those who test through their service, we have at least one member on the list who has contacted me to be included that was tested through another service. So there may have to be two results sets maintained. If you have not uploaded your DNA results to Ysearch yet, there is a way to do this via your FTDNA web page. Frances Love DNA Project Coordinator

Lou, Not that line. I descend from that James through son Jonah, brother of Pat's Charles Love. Also, The middle name for this James has for a long time been believed to be "Allison." That is based on misunderstanding of record. Another James, likely son of Thomas Love or possibly even James in GA should be credited with being named "James Allison Love." Also, the original James Love did marry to a person named Elizabeth. But a misinterpreation of an indenture dower clause led people to wrongly identify her maiden name to be "Crook." Their son John did marry Ruth Crook. Anyhow, within five miles of where our James Love settled in now Cabarrus County ca. 1790, another James Love moved and lived there ca. 1772-1784. There are Rev. War Vouchers in Mecklenburg for James Love. Some have believed that our James served in the Rev. War and that the voucher was proof. That is wrong in that our James's son John served "in his father's place" enlisting in his home county of Wilkes NC. This other James is a mystery revealed whose life was obscured by my families inclusion of his record as being that of their own ancestor. My effort here is to breath life into this line that surely survived up through today. George > > From: Lou Love <llove1039@sbcglobal.net> > Date: 2007/06/12 Tue PM 02:58:28 EDT > To: geothos@bellsouth.net, Mickey Fournier <mwfournier@comcast.net>, > Love@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: Re: [LOVE] Loves of Chester County, SC ca 1800 > > George, > The family you describe sounds like James Love, Sr. who m Elizabeth Crooke. He was b ca 1720 in Brunswick Co., Va. & d Stokes Co., NC. This is Pat Stubblefieds Line according to my notes. And no ties to my line that I've found yet. > > Son John m Ruth Crooke - son James Allison Love m Mary Elizabeth Ingram & d in Cabarrus Co., NC > > Big families with big families. Raised their own field hands I think! > > Later, Lou > > > geothos@bellsouth.net wrote: > Mickey, > > The following is not pertaining to the James Love family who moved from VA through Stokes to now Cabarrus along the Rocky River near where it crosses highway 24-27. > > > Another James Love settled twenty years earlier about ten miles upstream on the Rocky River. His grant was a 1778 Sec. State land grant issued after usold lands of the deceased Arthur Dobbs were taken back by the state. Some of the land in this region was even granted back in the 1750's by Gov. Glenn of SC. > > This James Love owned land on the south side of Rocky River in the Rocky River Presbyterian Community about a mile west of where Hwy 601 crosses. John Love, (I believe to be son of James) owned land opposite the river from James Love. In the same day, a William Love received a grant for land on Goose Creek about 15 miles south. He had ties to Donnelson and others who moved on through SC. > > > Note that the Catawba and Charleston highway crossed the Rocky River between where the early and later James Love settled. Many from the area moved out down the highway and settled from the Waxaws of SC to the Union County area. > > I have no idea that this LOVE family is linked to yours. But I do believe it was a large family that lived in Cumberland County NC prior to 1772. I also believe they moved into the Abbeville area of SC ca. 1784. Somewhere down the line, we should be seeing DNA results for this family. I wonder if any LOVE researches have looked into the Abbeville district Love family. > > George > > > > > From: "Mickey Fournier" > > Date: 2007/06/12 Tue AM 10:12:01 EDT > > To: , > > "'Lou Love'" , > > > > Subject: RE: Re: [LOVE] Loves of Chester County, SC ca 1800 > > > > Oh, I won't ever give up! I have spent several days in Chester County and I > > thought I had scoured everything. Lou, I know your James and some of his > > sons had North Carolina land grants that turned out to be in South Carolina > > when the line was straightened out. Could this be your folks in the records > > of Mecklenburg? The names are right. > > > > I have Campbells in Chester and Fairfield Counties, SC, also. Those folks > > will drive you totally nuts! > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: geothos@bellsouth.net [mailto:geothos@bellsouth.net] > > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 10:55 PM > > To: Mickey Fournier; 'Lou Love'; Love@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: Re: [LOVE] Loves of Chester County, SC ca 1800 > > > > Micky, > > > > Don't give up. Years ago I spent a summer in the Chester County courthouse > > digging through records there in order to try to prove a THOMAS family in > > Alabama were kin to David Thomas of Chester. Read every book in the moldy > > basement and did not find what I was looking for. On top of the eight foot > > cabinets that line the basement, there were piles of old court books. I > > climbed up on top of the cabinet and set myself to reading. Sure enough, in > > a day book by a judege who was sitting in for a judge who was sick, was > > written the names of heirs from the estate of David Thomas and where they > > 'now live' ...in Alabama! > > > > Anyhow, I have always wondered about the LOVE family in Chester/Union County > > SC and the James/William/ John Love of Mecklenburg NC. James of Mecklenburg > > appeared to be the father...not my James Love of Cabarrus. He received land > > in 1772 stating that he was from "Cumberland County NC". I find record of > > him there too ...earlier. On the same day, James, William and John all > > acquired land in Mecklenburg. They signed a petition about the evils and > > fairness of men who were receiving very large grants of land. Then in 1784 > > they disappeared. > > > > These three lived in the area around Rocky River Presbyterian Church in now > > Cabarrus. They had attended Pine Bluff Presbyterian in Cumberland NC. > > Their neighbors in the Cabarrus area were involved in the buring of Hugh > > Waddel's ammo waggon during the regulator movement. In the 1750's, Rev. > > Hugh McAden Preached at Rocky River Presbyterian and then down to SC where > > he preached and stayed at James Love's on the Broad River. There were > > CAMPBELL interation with your LOVE in Chester/Union. There is also a > > Campbell family who lived next to this James Love in Cabarrus/Mecklenburg. > > > > The Morrison family came from PA possibly through eastern nc. I just wonder > > if there is a tie to this family? > > > > All you Loves out there... have any of you worked on the LOVE family who > > showed up in Abbeville District SC ca. 1780's? I suspect they are part of > > the family of James Love of earlier in Mecklenburg..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Mickey Fournier" > > > Date: 2007/06/11 Mon PM 09:32:07 EDT > > > To: "'Lou Love'" , > > > Subject: Re: [LOVE] Loves of Chester County, SC ca 1800 > > > > > > Lou: > > > > > > I have been watching the list daily but haven't posted in quite a > > > while. I don't have anything new and I am pretty well convinced that > > > the "proof" I need to tie John to English Bill will never be found. > > > > > > I have found a couple of references in Chester County to William > > > Love's will...one mention in some land that one of John's son > > > sold..but the will itself is not there. Given that Bill was a Tory, > > > maybe the family just divided his property according to his wishes and > > > didn't file the thing. I just pray that somebody somewhere is in > > > possession of the original and that it will surface someday. > > > > > > Also, I am quite surprised that his property was not confiscated but, > > > surprisingly, there is no record of that, either. Maybe it is because > > > he had sons and grandsons who were Patriots? The history of that > > > family will nearly break your heart! What they went through in that > > > war was near unbelieveable. > > > > > > I know lots of folks are scared to death of having it proven they > > > descend from English Bill. I may be the only one who hopes she is! > > > > > > Nice to hear from you. Are you okay? > > > > > > Mickey > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > From: Lou Love [mailto:llove1039@sbcglobal.net] > > > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 9:18 PM > > > To: Mickey Fournier; Love@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: [LOVE] Loves of Chester County, SC ca 1800 > > > > > > > > > Hi Mickey - would be happy to claim you as a "kissin cuzin" - Haven't > > > seen you post for a while - like everyone else - takin a break. > > > > > > I still have all your info in the database - still lookin for connections. > > > > > > Good Hunting, > > > Later, > > > Love, Lou > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mickey Fournier wrote: > > > > > > My John LOVE died in Chester County in 1799 leaving wife Elizabeth > > > (almost > > > certainly a ROYALL); sons, John Royall, William and Samuel; > > daughters > > > Mary > > > WRIGHT (my ancestor), Elizabeth, Margaret and Jean. The younger > > three > > > girls > > > were unmarried when their father died. > > > > > > I can build a very good circumstantial case to show that this John > > > was the > > > son of "English Bill" but there is no real proof of that. > > > > > > Of John's sons: > > > > > > (1) John Royall LOVE was a Patriot during the Revolution though he > > > was > > > pretty young to have been in service. He married Rachel (maiden name > > > unk) > > > and had two known children: (1) Milton Royall LOVE b. ca 1806, m. > > > Mary > > > ATTERBERRY, d. 1870 in Noxubee County, MS. A daughter, Lucinda, > > > married > > > William MINTER, no further info. > > > > > > (2) William m. Mary KOLB and had known sons, S.J. and Luther and a > > > daughter, > > > Bettie. I have no info on the children. > > > > > > (3) Samuel m. Ruth KOLB and they had sons James Kolb LOVE and Royall > > > > > Kolb > > > LOVE. Royall died in 1891 in Louisiana. > > > > > > I would be happy to share the expense of a DNA test for any LOVE who > > > > > can > > > prove descent from John through any of the sons. At least, I feel > > > confident > > > that will prove I am Lou's "kissin' cousin." > > > > > > Mildred "Mickey" Fournier > > > 1730 SE County Rd 252 > > > Lake City, FL 32025-1703 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > LOVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > LOVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > >

OK George - Must be an altogether different bunch - Could be grandsons of my James, the weaver, but he was not this family either. He left Pa sometime in the 1730's and was well established in Chester, SC by 1750's. Maybe this is the so-called English branch of Love's - not the Scots/Irish bunch mine's associated with. Later, Lou geothos@bellsouth.net wrote: Lou, Not that line. I descend from that James through son Jonah, brother of Pat's Charles Love. Also, The middle name for this James has for a long time been believed to be "Allison." That is based on misunderstanding of record. Another James, likely son of Thomas Love or possibly even James in GA should be credited with being named "James Allison Love." Also, the original James Love did marry to a person named Elizabeth. But a misinterpreation of an indenture dower clause led people to wrongly identify her maiden name to be "Crook." Their son John did marry Ruth Crook. Anyhow, within five miles of where our James Love settled in now Cabarrus County ca. 1790, another James Love moved and lived there ca. 1772-1784. There are Rev. War Vouchers in Mecklenburg for James Love. Some have believed that our James served in the Rev. War and that the voucher was proof. That is wrong in that our James's son John served "in his father's place" enlisting in his home county of Wilkes NC. This other James is a mystery revealed whose life was obscured by my families inclusion of his record as being that of their own ancestor. My effort here is to breath life into this line that surely survived up through today. George > > From: Lou Love > Date: 2007/06/12 Tue PM 02:58:28 EDT > To: geothos@bellsouth.net, Mickey Fournier , > Love@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: Re: [LOVE] Loves of Chester County, SC ca 1800 > > George, > The family you describe sounds like James Love, Sr. who m Elizabeth Crooke. He was b ca 1720 in Brunswick Co., Va. & d Stokes Co., NC. This is Pat Stubblefieds Line according to my notes. And no ties to my line that I've found yet. > > Son John m Ruth Crooke - son James Allison Love m Mary Elizabeth Ingram & d in Cabarrus Co., NC > > Big families with big families. Raised their own field hands I think! > > Later, Lou > > > geothos@bellsouth.net wrote: > Mickey, > > The following is not pertaining to the James Love family who moved from VA through Stokes to now Cabarrus along the Rocky River near where it crosses highway 24-27. > > > Another James Love settled twenty years earlier about ten miles upstream on the Rocky River. His grant was a 1778 Sec. State land grant issued after usold lands of the deceased Arthur Dobbs were taken back by the state. Some of the land in this region was even granted back in the 1750's by Gov. Glenn of SC. > > This James Love owned land on the south side of Rocky River in the Rocky River Presbyterian Community about a mile west of where Hwy 601 crosses. John Love, (I believe to be son of James) owned land opposite the river from James Love. In the same day, a William Love received a grant for land on Goose Creek about 15 miles south. He had ties to Donnelson and others who moved on through SC. > > > Note that the Catawba and Charleston highway crossed the Rocky River between where the early and later James Love settled. Many from the area moved out down the highway and settled from the Waxaws of SC to the Union County area. > > I have no idea that this LOVE family is linked to yours. But I do believe it was a large family that lived in Cumberland County NC prior to 1772. I also believe they moved into the Abbeville area of SC ca. 1784. Somewhere down the line, we should be seeing DNA results for this family. I wonder if any LOVE researches have looked into the Abbeville district Love family. > > George > > > > > From: "Mickey Fournier" > > Date: 2007/06/12 Tue AM 10:12:01 EDT > > To: , > > "'Lou Love'" , > > > > Subject: RE: Re: [LOVE] Loves of Chester County, SC ca 1800 > > > > Oh, I won't ever give up! I have spent several days in Chester County and I > > thought I had scoured everything. Lou, I know your James and some of his > > sons had North Carolina land grants that turned out to be in South Carolina > > when the line was straightened out. Could this be your folks in the records > > of Mecklenburg? The names are right. > > > > I have Campbells in Chester and Fairfield Counties, SC, also. Those folks > > will drive you totally nuts! > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: geothos@bellsouth.net [mailto:geothos@bellsouth.net] > > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 10:55 PM > > To: Mickey Fournier; 'Lou Love'; Love@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: Re: [LOVE] Loves of Chester County, SC ca 1800 > > > > Micky, > > > > Don't give up. Years ago I spent a summer in the Chester County courthouse > > digging through records there in order to try to prove a THOMAS family in > > Alabama were kin to David Thomas of Chester. Read every book in the moldy > > basement and did not find what I was looking for. On top of the eight foot > > cabinets that line the basement, there were piles of old court books. I > > climbed up on top of the cabinet and set myself to reading. Sure enough, in > > a day book by a judege who was sitting in for a judge who was sick, was > > written the names of heirs from the estate of David Thomas and where they > > 'now live' ...in Alabama! > > > > Anyhow, I have always wondered about the LOVE family in Chester/Union County > > SC and the James/William/ John Love of Mecklenburg NC. James of Mecklenburg > > appeared to be the father...not my James Love of Cabarrus. He received land > > in 1772 stating that he was from "Cumberland County NC". I find record of > > him there too ...earlier. On the same day, James, William and John all > > acquired land in Mecklenburg. They signed a petition about the evils and > > fairness of men who were receiving very large grants of land. Then in 1784 > > they disappeared. > > > > These three lived in the area around Rocky River Presbyterian Church in now > > Cabarrus. They had attended Pine Bluff Presbyterian in Cumberland NC. > > Their neighbors in the Cabarrus area were involved in the buring of Hugh > > Waddel's ammo waggon during the regulator movement. In the 1750's, Rev. > > Hugh McAden Preached at Rocky River Presbyterian and then down to SC where > > he preached and stayed at James Love's on the Broad River. There were > > CAMPBELL interation with your LOVE in Chester/Union. There is also a > > Campbell family who lived next to this James Love in Cabarrus/Mecklenburg. > > > > The Morrison family came from PA possibly through eastern nc. I just wonder > > if there is a tie to this family? > > > > All you Loves out there... have any of you worked on the LOVE family who > > showed up in Abbeville District SC ca. 1780's? I suspect they are part of > > the family of James Love of earlier in Mecklenburg..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Mickey Fournier" > > > Date: 2007/06/11 Mon PM 09:32:07 EDT > > > To: "'Lou Love'" , > > > Subject: Re: [LOVE] Loves of Chester County, SC ca 1800 > > > > > > Lou: > > > > > > I have been watching the list daily but haven't posted in quite a > > > while. I don't have anything new and I am pretty well convinced that > > > the "proof" I need to tie John to English Bill will never be found. > > > > > > I have found a couple of references in Chester County to William > > > Love's will...one mention in some land that one of John's son > > > sold..but the will itself is not there. Given that Bill was a Tory, > > > maybe the family just divided his property according to his wishes and > > > didn't file the thing. I just pray that somebody somewhere is in > > > possession of the original and that it will surface someday. > > > > > > Also, I am quite surprised that his property was not confiscated but, > > > surprisingly, there is no record of that, either. Maybe it is because > > > he had sons and grandsons who were Patriots? The history of that > > > family will nearly break your heart! What they went through in that > > > war was near unbelieveable. > > > > > > I know lots of folks are scared to death of having it proven they > > > descend from English Bill. I may be the only one who hopes she is! > > > > > > Nice to hear from you. Are you okay? > > > > > > Mickey > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > From: Lou Love [mailto:llove1039@sbcglobal.net] > > > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 9:18 PM > > > To: Mickey Fournier; Love@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: [LOVE] Loves of Chester County, SC ca 1800 > > > > > > > > > Hi Mickey - would be happy to claim you as a "kissin cuzin" - Haven't > > > seen you post for a while - like everyone else - takin a break. > > > > > > I still have all your info in the database - still lookin for connections. > > > > > > Good Hunting, > > > Later, > > > Love, Lou > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mickey Fournier wrote: > > > > > > My John LOVE died in Chester County in 1799 leaving wife Elizabeth > > > (almost > > > certainly a ROYALL); sons, John Royall, William and Samuel; > > daughters > > > Mary > > > WRIGHT (my ancestor), Elizabeth, Margaret and Jean. The younger > > three > > > girls > > > were unmarried when their father died. > > > > > > I can build a very good circumstantial case to show that this John > > > was the > > > son of "English Bill" but there is no real proof of that. > > > > > > Of John's sons: > > > > > > (1) John Royall LOVE was a Patriot during the Revolution though he > > > was > > > pretty young to have been in service. He married Rachel (maiden name > > > unk) > > > and had two known children: (1) Milton Royall LOVE b. ca 1806, m. > > > Mary > > > ATTERBERRY, d. 1870 in Noxubee County, MS. A daughter, Lucinda, > > > married > > > William MINTER, no further info. > > > > > > (2) William m. Mary KOLB and had known sons, S.J. and Luther and a > > > daughter, > > > Bettie. I have no info on the children. > > > > > > (3) Samuel m. Ruth KOLB and they had sons James Kolb LOVE and Royall > > > > > Kolb > > > LOVE. Royall died in 1891 in Louisiana. > > > > > > I would be happy to share the expense of a DNA test for any LOVE who > > > > > can > > > prove descent from John through any of the sons. At least, I feel > > > confident > > > that will prove I am Lou's "kissin' cousin." > > > > > > Mildred "Mickey" Fournier > > > 1730 SE County Rd 252 > > > Lake City, FL 32025-1703 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > LOVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > LOVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Mickey, The following is not pertaining to the James Love family who moved from VA through Stokes to now Cabarrus along the Rocky River near where it crosses highway 24-27. Another James Love settled twenty years earlier about ten miles upstream on the Rocky River. His grant was a 1778 Sec. State land grant issued after usold lands of the deceased Arthur Dobbs were taken back by the state. Some of the land in this region was even granted back in the 1750's by Gov. Glenn of SC. This James Love owned land on the south side of Rocky River in the Rocky River Presbyterian Community about a mile west of where Hwy 601 crosses. John Love, (I believe to be son of James) owned land opposite the river from James Love. In the same day, a William Love received a grant for land on Goose Creek about 15 miles south. He had ties to Donnelson and others who moved on through SC. Note that the Catawba and Charleston highway crossed the Rocky River between where the early and later James Love settled. Many from the area moved out down the highway and settled from the Waxaws of SC to the Union County area. I have no idea that this LOVE family is linked to yours. But I do believe it was a large family that lived in Cumberland County NC prior to 1772. I also believe they moved into the Abbeville area of SC ca. 1784. Somewhere down the line, we should be seeing DNA results for this family. I wonder if any LOVE researches have looked into the Abbeville district Love family. George > > From: "Mickey Fournier" <mwfournier@comcast.net> > Date: 2007/06/12 Tue AM 10:12:01 EDT > To: <geothos@bellsouth.net>, > "'Lou Love'" <llove1039@sbcglobal.net>, > <Love@rootsweb.com> > Subject: RE: Re: [LOVE] Loves of Chester County, SC ca 1800 > > Oh, I won't ever give up! I have spent several days in Chester County and I > thought I had scoured everything. Lou, I know your James and some of his > sons had North Carolina land grants that turned out to be in South Carolina > when the line was straightened out. Could this be your folks in the records > of Mecklenburg? The names are right. > > I have Campbells in Chester and Fairfield Counties, SC, also. Those folks > will drive you totally nuts! > > -----Original Message----- > From: geothos@bellsouth.net [mailto:geothos@bellsouth.net] > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 10:55 PM > To: Mickey Fournier; 'Lou Love'; Love@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Re: [LOVE] Loves of Chester County, SC ca 1800 > > Micky, > > Don't give up. Years ago I spent a summer in the Chester County courthouse > digging through records there in order to try to prove a THOMAS family in > Alabama were kin to David Thomas of Chester. Read every book in the moldy > basement and did not find what I was looking for. On top of the eight foot > cabinets that line the basement, there were piles of old court books. I > climbed up on top of the cabinet and set myself to reading. Sure enough, in > a day book by a judege who was sitting in for a judge who was sick, was > written the names of heirs from the estate of David Thomas and where they > 'now live' ...in Alabama! > > Anyhow, I have always wondered about the LOVE family in Chester/Union County > SC and the James/William/ John Love of Mecklenburg NC. James of Mecklenburg > appeared to be the father...not my James Love of Cabarrus. He received land > in 1772 stating that he was from "Cumberland County NC". I find record of > him there too ...earlier. On the same day, James, William and John all > acquired land in Mecklenburg. They signed a petition about the evils and > fairness of men who were receiving very large grants of land. Then in 1784 > they disappeared. > > These three lived in the area around Rocky River Presbyterian Church in now > Cabarrus. They had attended Pine Bluff Presbyterian in Cumberland NC. > Their neighbors in the Cabarrus area were involved in the buring of Hugh > Waddel's ammo waggon during the regulator movement. In the 1750's, Rev. > Hugh McAden Preached at Rocky River Presbyterian and then down to SC where > he preached and stayed at James Love's on the Broad River. There were > CAMPBELL interation with your LOVE in Chester/Union. There is also a > Campbell family who lived next to this James Love in Cabarrus/Mecklenburg. > > The Morrison family came from PA possibly through eastern nc. I just wonder > if there is a tie to this family? > > All you Loves out there... have any of you worked on the LOVE family who > showed up in Abbeville District SC ca. 1780's? I suspect they are part of > the family of James Love of earlier in Mecklenburg..... > > > > > > > > From: "Mickey Fournier" <mwfournier@comcast.net> > > Date: 2007/06/11 Mon PM 09:32:07 EDT > > To: "'Lou Love'" <llove1039@sbcglobal.net>, <Love@rootsweb.com> > > Subject: Re: [LOVE] Loves of Chester County, SC ca 1800 > > > > Lou: > > > > I have been watching the list daily but haven't posted in quite a > > while. I don't have anything new and I am pretty well convinced that > > the "proof" I need to tie John to English Bill will never be found. > > > > I have found a couple of references in Chester County to William > > Love's will...one mention in some land that one of John's son > > sold..but the will itself is not there. Given that Bill was a Tory, > > maybe the family just divided his property according to his wishes and > > didn't file the thing. I just pray that somebody somewhere is in > > possession of the original and that it will surface someday. > > > > Also, I am quite surprised that his property was not confiscated but, > > surprisingly, there is no record of that, either. Maybe it is because > > he had sons and grandsons who were Patriots? The history of that > > family will nearly break your heart! What they went through in that > > war was near unbelieveable. > > > > I know lots of folks are scared to death of having it proven they > > descend from English Bill. I may be the only one who hopes she is! > > > > Nice to hear from you. Are you okay? > > > > Mickey > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: Lou Love [mailto:llove1039@sbcglobal.net] > > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 9:18 PM > > To: Mickey Fournier; Love@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [LOVE] Loves of Chester County, SC ca 1800 > > > > > > Hi Mickey - would be happy to claim you as a "kissin cuzin" - Haven't > > seen you post for a while - like everyone else - takin a break. > > > > I still have all your info in the database - still lookin for connections. > > > > Good Hunting, > > Later, > > Love, Lou > > > > > > > > > > Mickey Fournier <mwfournier@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > My John LOVE died in Chester County in 1799 leaving wife Elizabeth > > (almost > > certainly a ROYALL); sons, John Royall, William and Samuel; > daughters > > Mary > > WRIGHT (my ancestor), Elizabeth, Margaret and Jean. The younger > three > > girls > > were unmarried when their father died. > > > > I can build a very good circumstantial case to show that this John > > was the > > son of "English Bill" but there is no real proof of that. > > > > Of John's sons: > > > > (1) John Royall LOVE was a Patriot during the Revolution though he > > was > > pretty young to have been in service. He married Rachel (maiden name > > unk) > > and had two known children: (1) Milton Royall LOVE b. ca 1806, m. > > Mary > > ATTERBERRY, d. 1870 in Noxubee County, MS. A daughter, Lucinda, > > married > > William MINTER, no further info. > > > > (2) William m. Mary KOLB and had known sons, S.J. and Luther and a > > daughter, > > Bettie. I have no info on the children. > > > > (3) Samuel m. Ruth KOLB and they had sons James Kolb LOVE and Royall > > > Kolb > > LOVE. Royall died in 1891 in Louisiana. > > > > I would be happy to share the expense of a DNA test for any LOVE who > > > can > > prove descent from John through any of the sons. At least, I feel > > confident > > that will prove I am Lou's "kissin' cousin." > > > > Mildred "Mickey" Fournier > > 1730 SE County Rd 252 > > Lake City, FL 32025-1703 > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LOVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LOVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >