Okay. So the other guy nominated, will you do it? Katheryn [email protected] wrote:In a message dated 3/3/2003 3:53:53 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Didn't we have someone volunteer to be our fearless DNA leader a few days ago? Since no one objected, go with it! That's my opinion. Katheryn Nobody's volunteered that I know of. Someone put a couple of names in nomination [mine being one] but I don't have the time to be the coordinator of anything else at the moment. I certainly plan to participate & help in any way I can, however. Love, Lou --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more

Didn't we have someone volunteer to be our fearless DNA leader a few days ago? Since no one objected, go with it! That's my opinion. Katheryn Don Love <[email protected]> wrote:Dear "Cousins", I am willing to participate in such a DNA survey and research testing. Peace be with you and yours, Donald C. Love, b. 1927, son of Charles W. Love. B. 1887, son of Lyman M. Love, b. 1851, son of, Jeremy P. Love, b. 1823, son of John C. Love, b. 1783, son of John Love, b. c.1740, son of James Love, b. 1720, son of John Love, b. ? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 10:06 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [LOVE-L] LOVE DNA PROJECT Hello there LOVE hunters. I am a male Love that has for several months now wondered about the Family Tree DNA projects going on. One of my other lines has already started this, but since I can only have one surname, I cannot test on that line. haha... I descend from William Hiram Love, 1801 NC - 1885 GA, of whom we believe is a son of Christopher Love, who is one of the youngest children of John Love and Sarah Sharp. We have yet to be able to find that final conclusive bit of information that would make it certain that John and Sarah are who I descend from. I guess what I am trying to say is, I would be very happy to test. My next question is, who could we put in charge of this venture? We would have to find someone that has been consistent in keeping information in a good manner, and is as interested as any of us to find where the Love's of the years gone by, connect with each other. Suggestions: Mary Russell - Listowner or Dr. Lou Love of Houston, TX. I do not know either of these people personally, but from what I have seen on this list in the past, they seem to be very organized and informative about the Love surname. Miss Mary and Dr. Lou, I hope that I have not offended you with my suggestions, I am only merely throwing things up in the air. I implore any male LOVE, to PLEASE consider this. We only need six to get it under way, and to start trying to make connections that we know are out there. Now I will get off of my little bandwagon. haha - hehe Rikki Love, GGG-Grandson of William H. Love, Habersham Co., GA A Lost Descendent of a Lost Ancestor... ______________________________ ==== LOVE Mailing List ==== To search the love message boards: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.love ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more

The original Robert Love's son, William, was killed 1780 at his home in SC dur. the Rev. War., along with his son James. His son Thomas escaped to MS where he married into a Chickasaw tribe. I don't know if anyone else has posted this, but these items below are from (www.rootsweb.com/~marsha/church/chickmin.html, a Marshall Co., MS, genealogy site: "Records of the Church Session at Monroe Chickasaw Nation" which was established in 1823 by Hugh Dickson of the Presbytery of SC, commissioned by the Missionary Society of the Synod of SC and GA to establish a Mission. There are quite a few Chickasaw Loves, Boyds & Colberts listed, and I think you will find spouses and children you might not have known about. It seems Ben Love and some of the Colberts had trouble behaving! If you copy and paste it into a Word Document, it is 4 pages. Katheryn Record of the Church Session at Monroe Chickasaw Nation 1823 The Rev. Hugh Dickson of the Presbytery of So. Carolina, having been commissioned by the Missionary Society of the Synod of So. Carolina and Georgia, to visit Monroe for the purpose of examining into the state and prospects of the Mission united on the 29 of May 1823. The Mission family, having a desire to be united in a church capacity that they may regularly enjoy the privilege of the sealing ordinances of the gospel, expressed the same to Mr. Dickson. Accordingly on the 7th of June 1823, a church was organized consisting of the following members, viz., Hamilton V. Turner James Wilson Nancy Turner Mary Ann Wilson Ethalinda Wilson Prudence Wilson (not a member of the mission) Susan Stuart Owing to our peculiar situation, the usual, made of acquiring certificates of dismission and good standing from the churches to which the members had respectively belonged, was dispensed with the Rev. Thomas C. Stuart, Superdt. of the mission was nominated as stated supply. After the exercises of the day, a session consisting of the Rev. Messrs. Blain and Wilson, assisted by Father Dickson, convened in the prayer hall. LOVE July 1st 1832. Mr. Spencer was baptized, also Agnes infant daughter of Benjamin and Letty LOVE. January 5th 1833. Session convened and was opened with prayer. Ishtemaye a native member of our church having for a long time absented herself from the ______ of ______, and giving sad evidence that she is yet in a state of sin and ____ the _____ darkness was excommunicated. ______ a Chickasaw was also excommunicated for the sin of fornication, the following persons having been guilty of _________ against God and this church, were suspended from its privileges, viz., Thos. F. Cheadle, Mary LOVE, Wm. H. Barr, Nancy COLBERT, and Syke. T. C. Stuart, Modr. April 5th 1834. Mr. Benjn. Godfrey and wife ______ and son James Alfred were received as members of this Church by certificate from the Church at may ____. Two Elders having been elected and ordained, on the evening session met and was opened with prayer. The following persons having been under suspension from the privileges of the church for a length of time and giving no evidence of repentance, but continuously _______, were solemnly ex-communicated, viz., Molly Gun, Nancy COLBERT, Sallie Fraser, James B. Allan, Benjn. LOVE and Saiyo. Feby. 24th 1839. Session met at the call of the moderator. Present Benj. Godfrey, Wm. Spencer. Constituted by prayer. Mr. Godfrey was appointed to represent this church in the next Presbytery which is to meet at Starkville on Thursday the 4th day of April. Resolved that the funds on hand, which have been raised by the sale of Bibles, be ______ in the purchase of more Bibles; and that in future, until otherwise directed, our congregational contributions be sent to the Board of Missions of the General Assembly. The following members were dismissed to join the Holly Springs Church, viz., Mrs. Charlotte LOVE, native Chickasaw, Nancy and Jenney, black people. Adjourned sine die. T. C. Stuart, Modr. Saturday June 14 1828. Session met according to adjournment. Constituted. TC Messrs. James B. Allen & Daniel Carr, white men, James COLBERT & Benjamin LOVE, Natives, and Manual, a black man were admitted to the privileges of the church on examination. Adjourned to meet on the 28 June. Concluded with prayer. July 6. James B. Allen, Benjamin LOVE, Manuel & Fanny and Esther were baptized. Martyn. August 25. Session met and was opened with prayer. Mr. Henry LOVE a native and Mr. Christopher Moore and Miss Polly Allen, white, applied for admission to the church. This examination being satisfactory they were received. Concluded TC. August 24. The persons admitted on Saturday were baptized. Also the following children, viz., Elisabeth Mitchell infant daughter of Rev. W. C. Blair and Susan Blair; Sally & Dorothy children of Christopher Moore, Amanda, John, Elvira, ______, Charlotte, Frances, children of Henry and Sally LOVE. July 6th. Session met for the examination of candidates & the following persons having given evidence of their change were admitted to the privileges of the church, Lotty LOVE, Nancy BOYD, James Fory and William H. Barr � Chickasaws, ____, Rachel & Tom, people of colour. July 5th 1829. The persons admitted yesterday were baptized and also the following children � Elisabeth Jane BOYD � daughter of James & Nancy, Narcissa daughter of Benjamin & Lotty LOVE, Sarah Rebecca daughter of James & Sarah A. Holmes, and Sam, child of Leah. October 1st 1830. William COLBERT�s wife, Kunneayi and Mercury an old black man, were admitted to the church. The following children were baptized. Dicy COLBERT�s son Steve Prince & Lydia�s children, Almina, Robert A., LOVEy, Betsey�s girls Liley & Lucinda. Aaron Gleason, Clk. Martyn 30th April 1831. Baptized Thos. C. Stuart son of Nancy and James BOYD, Luke, son of Christopher and Katharine Moore, and David, son of Henry & Sarah LOVE. Martyn March 22 1828. Session met and was opened with prayer. Mrs. Sarah LOVE applied for admission to the communion of the church. Her examination being sustained she was received. Adjourned TC BOYD July 14th 1833. The ordinance of baptism was administered to John David son of Samuel and Nancy BOYD. Oct. 1st 1842. Session met at the call of the moderator. Present Wm. Spencer. The following persons were received by letter, viz., Wm. McLarty and wife Sarah & daughter, Jane; Mr. John R. BOYD and Novr. 22, 1828. Session met Martyn according to adjournment and was opened with prayer. Mr. James BOYD applied for admission to the church. Having given satisfactory evidence of a work of grace upon his heart he was received. Adjourned to meet at Monroe the Saturday before the second Sabbath in Decr. Concluded TC. Novr. 23. Mr. BOYD was baptized, also James COLBERT�s two children Benjamin and James Holmes was baptized. July 6th1829. Session met for the examination of candidates & the following persons having given evidence of their change were admitted to the privileges of the church, Lotty LOVE, Nancy BOYD, James Fory and William H. Barr � Chickasaws, ____, Rachel & Tom, people of colour. July 5th. The persons admitted yesterday were baptized and also the following children � Elisabeth Jane BOYD � daughter of James & Nancy, Narcissa daughter of Benjamin & Lotty LOVE, Sarah Rebecca daughter of James & Sarah A. Holmes, and Sam, child of Leah. Martyn 30th April 1831. Baptized Thos. C. Stuart son of Nancy and James BOYD, Luke, son of Christopher and Katharine Moore, and David, son of Henry & Sarah LOVE. COLBERT Sept. 11, 1831. Lilpha was baptized, also the following children, viz., Johnson, son of Edmond and Liney Pickens, William, son of Nureka and Mary COLBERT, Philip son of Chrissy, and Martha, Esther�s daughter. Session adjourned, sine die. Thomas C. Stuart, Modr. Saturday June 14 1828. Session met according to adjournment. Constituted. TC Messrs. James B. Allen & Daniel Carr, white men, James COLBERT & Benjamin Love, Natives, and Manual, a black man were admitted to the privileges of the church on examination. Adjourned to meet on the 28 June. Concluded with prayer. Novr. 23. Mr. Boyd was baptized, also James COLBERT�s two children Benjamin and James Holmes was baptized. Oct. 4th 1829. The ordinance of Baptism was administered to two children of Wm. COLBERT, Joseph and Tennessee. Also to James Stuart infant son of Thomas & Elisabeth Cheadle. April 3rd 1830. Rev. Cyrus Byington convened with the following persons with reference to their admission to the Church, viz., Edmond Pickens, Sally Fraser, Nureka COLBERT, Disey COLBERT, Betsey (creek woman) and Amy & Syke, colored people. These persons appearing ______ were, on the Sabbath baptized and received into the church. W. H. Barr�s infant daughter Belinda was baptized. At the monthly concert for prayer the Monday evening following the sum of $14.68� was contributed for the spread of the gospel. June 5th 1830. The following were received into the church, viz., James Perry, Tuppeha, Ishtemaye, Toshkai, Apokti, Pohaiki, Mrs. Mary S. COLBERT, Mrs. Charlotte James, Molly (creek woman) and Frances, coloured woman. The following children were baptized Nusika COLBERT�s two sons, Thos. Stuart & George Washington, Betsey & son, Alexander, Tuppeha�s daughter, Venus, Mrs. James� son, Walter, Sally Frances� two children, Barry & wife & Elsey, Miller�s Caroline & Benjamin, Frances� daughter, Susan, Mobile & Laney�s daughter Louisa, Lilpha�s daughter Rebecca. October 1st 1830. William COLBERT�s wife, Kunneayi and Mercury an old black man, were admitted to the church. The following children were baptized. Dicy COLBERT�s son Steve Prince & Lydia�s children, Almina, Robert A., Lovey, Betsey�s girls Liley & Lucinda. 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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Love Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Xcx.2ACIB/1853.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Ron, Do you know anything of the family? I have Love family in many counties at the time of his birth including Calhoun. Any chance of a parent's name? Do you have him on a census record? My Love family came to Texas through Bossier Parish, La. Thanks, Drew Slate Fort Worth, Tx

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Xcx.2ACIB/1859.1 Message Board Post: Since you have this connection of Love's in the Pittsburgh area, do you happen to have anything for William Fleming Love of Sharpsburg? He would be my g-grandfather. His daughter, Laura Love was born in 1892 and married my grandfather Martin F. Wahler (Waller) in 1910.

I went and got this information from Family Tree DNA project website: Family Tree DNA SURNAME PROGRAMMany people have asked about using Family Tree DNA’s services as a tool for Surname projects. We perform this service all the time and have established a protocol that allows us to transfer the routine data management tasks to you and, thereby, reduce the cost of the testing. You may either join a project in progress, or start a new one. To start a new project, follow the instructions below. Here are the elements necessary to start a project: A minimum of 6 participants is required. Choose a Group Administrator who will handle the data management of your family's Surname Project. The Group Administrator will be Family Tree DNA's direct link to your project. The Group Administrator will have access to a secure page where your project's status is updated daily. Family Tree DNA will distribute legal release forms allowing for the sharing of the test results with the Group Administrator. Test kits and payments may be submitted individually or as a group to FTDNA for processing. Test results will be returned to the Group Administrator as they are received by the office. Each participant will also receive a certificate and report containing their personal test results. The staff of FTDNA will help you interpret the meaning of your test results. Rikki Love A Lost Descendent of a Lost Ancestor...

Hello there once again... One question about the project that everyone, including myself has been discussing. Would there be a webpage built where all of the information would be accessable to all Love researchers? My other line that has been doing this has a dedicated webpage just for the results on all of there tests. There are no names given on the donors of the DNA, just the test number and from who they descend. If you want to get in touch with the donor to get information you have to go through the administrator of the project. They then in turn contact the donor to find out if it is ok to give their contact information. I have built several websites, and would be more than willing to help anyway I can on this venture. Rikki Love, GGG-Grandson of William Hiram Love A Lost Descendent of a Lost Ancestor...

Why don't you contact the DNA organization's web site and ask them about this (not permission, but opinion)? I know they promise to keep everything extremely confidential, only letting out info with the permission of the DNA donor family. Part of their success is their confidentiality. Sounds like a good idea, though. Maybe our webmaster would put your web page as a tag at the bottom of our Love List page. Katheryn [email protected] wrote: Hello there once again... One question about the project that everyone, including myself has been discussing. Would there be a webpage built where all of the information would be accessable to all Love researchers? My other line that has been doing this has a dedicated webpage just for the results on all of there tests. There are no names given on the donors of the DNA, just the test number and from who they descend. If you want to get in touch with the donor to get information you have to go through the administrator of the project. They then in turn contact the donor to find out if it is ok to give their contact information. I have built several websites, and would be more than willing to help anyway I can on this venture. Rikki Love, GGG-Grandson of William Hiram Love A Lost Descendent of a Lost Ancestor... ==== LOVE Mailing List ==== To contact the listowner write to [email protected] ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more

I, for one, applaud your suggestions. If you want something done, ask a busy person! I second your motion. Unless I read their website wrong, we only need one Love from any branch that wants to turn in a DNA saliva sample. Of course, with six, the price goes down from $125 each to $100 each. If I read it right. Katheryn [email protected] wrote:Hello there LOVE hunters. I am a male Love that has for several months now wondered about the Family Tree DNA projects going on. One of my other lines has already started this, but since I can only have one surname, I cannot test on that line. haha... I descend from William Hiram Love, 1801 NC - 1885 GA, of whom we believe is a son of Christopher Love, who is one of the youngest children of John Love and Sarah Sharp. We have yet to be able to find that final conclusive bit of information that would make it certain that John and Sarah are who I descend from. I guess what I am trying to say is, I would be very happy to test. My next question is, who could we put in charge of this venture? We would have to find someone that has been consistent in keeping information in a good manner, and is as interested as any of us to find where the Love's of the years gone by, connect with each other. Suggestions: Mary Russell - Listowner or Dr. Lou Love of Houston, TX. I do not know either of these people personally, but from what I have seen on this list in the past, they seem to be very organized and informative about the Love surname. Miss Mary and Dr. Lou, I hope that I have not offended you with my suggestions, I am only merely throwing things up in the air. I implore any male LOVE, to PLEASE consider this. We only need six to get it under way, and to start trying to make connections that we know are out there. Now I will get off of my little bandwagon. haha - hehe Rikki Love, GGG-Grandson of William H. Love, Habersham Co., GA A Lost Descendent of a Lost Ancestor... ==== LOVE Mailing List ==== We also have a LOVE-UK list To join send the word SUBSCRIBE [email protected] ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more

If grampa Henry has that much "info in him," maybe it'll rub off on his saliva swab! Katheryn [email protected] wrote:I think this is a great idea...but I have a hard time even getting my husband to a doctor for a normal physical. His father Henry would be a great one for this...he is 90 and has alot of info in him about the Love's from Mehoopany...Becky Love --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more

Hello there LOVE hunters. I am a male Love that has for several months now wondered about the Family Tree DNA projects going on. One of my other lines has already started this, but since I can only have one surname, I cannot test on that line. haha... I descend from William Hiram Love, 1801 NC - 1885 GA, of whom we believe is a son of Christopher Love, who is one of the youngest children of John Love and Sarah Sharp. We have yet to be able to find that final conclusive bit of information that would make it certain that John and Sarah are who I descend from. I guess what I am trying to say is, I would be very happy to test. My next question is, who could we put in charge of this venture? We would have to find someone that has been consistent in keeping information in a good manner, and is as interested as any of us to find where the Love's of the years gone by, connect with each other. Suggestions: Mary Russell - Listowner or Dr. Lou Love of Houston, TX. I do not know either of these people personally, but from what I have seen on this list in the past, they seem to be very organized and informative about the Love surname. Miss Mary and Dr. Lou, I hope that I have not offended you with my suggestions, I am only merely throwing things up in the air. I implore any male LOVE, to PLEASE consider this. We only need six to get it under way, and to start trying to make connections that we know are out there. Now I will get off of my little bandwagon. haha - hehe Rikki Love, GGG-Grandson of William H. Love, Habersham Co., GA A Lost Descendent of a Lost Ancestor...

K Haddad <[email protected]> wrote:From K Haddad Sun Mar 2 04:19:22 2003 Received: from [142.154.140.29] by web40011.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 04:19:22 PST Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 04:19:22 -0800 (PST) From: K Haddad Subject: Re: [LOVE-L] Love DNA To: Bird In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1477191378-1046607562=:15302" Content-Length: 1716 The $125 is the 12-marker test, I'm pretty sure. That site I gave everyone a few days ago has the price list. It can be upgraded later for the dif. in price if you get a close and not-sure match. However, I think most are getting the 12-marker test. Of course our children and grandchildren think our hobby is a waste of time! Our curiosity is one thing that's not necessarily inherited! But surely some of our Loves have yuppie children who have two houses, a car for everyone, go out to eat all the time, only designer clothes, etc. (I adopted mine and they're not yuppies.) Even if they're not interested, just (as the patriarch or matriarch of the family) go to them and tell them, "Hand over $125 and don't ask questions." They might be so amused at the brashness and senility being exhibited, they'll actually do it. Or say, "I want $125 for my next birthday (or Mothers/Father's Day) and I don't care how you get it." Or tell them the next time you fix their favourite meal ~ or go fix their plumbing, or watch their kids ~ it'll cost 'em. If they don't come across, go out on their lawn in their plush neighborhood and set up a lemonade stand! If some of the older Love men in our list would say, "Yes, I'd be willing to do the test," then others with yuppie children/grand children would be inspired to get busy and find the money to do it. Coniving Katheryn Bird <[email protected]> wrote: I agree with you. If we can get a start then more men might join and we would get several family lines sorted out. Even people in the UK might want to join it it was started. After all the page would show matches. One would want the 25? marker test and I think that is what FTMDNA does. I didn't know they had lowered the test. I was hoping they would. I doubt that we old ones could get our kids to contribute. Most of them think genealogy is a useless hobby until they get older.Mary Harkey Russell [email protected] http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~bird --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more

As I understand it from seeing what is going on with other surnames. FTDNA is the best place to have this DNA study for Genealogy done. I think if one had about 6 men named LOVE who want tested the price is around $161. One may think that is a lot of money and it is true that some people would find paying that much impossible but others might like to know the results enough to make small donations toward someone taking the test. If we really want to know which of our Loves were brothers or if we share a common ancestor, I see this as the only way we will find out. Think of it, we are talking about finding some information about something that happened 300 years ago that has not been found before. I just sit like a sponge rather than a genealogist. I collect what other people find. Many of the people that lived a hundred years ago or longer took the time to write things about their families and we have what they wrote and we still don't know who is related to who. Are we likely to find out in the next 50 years? I doubt it unless we do DNA. No as listowner, I am not allowed to write many email like this one to the list but I suggest that some of you men with surname Love start talking together. Maybe you can figure out something <G> Someone has to be in charge, someone has to contact FTDNA and make arrangements. Personally if a group of you choose to do this, I can be counted on to make a donation. Remember one has to have some sort of paper trail that seems to lead them to one of the men we think might be brothers. Now like Schultz--- I am not here, I did not say this, I see nothing. Mary Harkey Russell [email protected] http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~bird Love List owner

I put in a search for the Love family DNA research if it exists and I think I found some thoroughly disgusting sites. I`m only intersted in genealogy. Is there such a research being conducted at this time? I am of the Benjamin J. Love, son of Joseph Love of Ky and Davidson Co. Tenn. Also, what web site would one recommend to try and sort out my early Love genealogies and clear up a lot of the errors we`ve probably compounded through the years. though we did the best we could with what we had access to. It is much easier today. i get "blown away" when i see people upset because they don`t know what page and line of the census to search. Or when an error "is" found. LOL Sue in Al

Hi Mickey, Good to hear from you, "Cuz". Hope all is well with you & yours. Here's to more answers to the questions from the gene pool. Love, Lou

I am in agreement with Lou's belief that these five are brothers...if for no other reason than they all lived in the same area and had a good many associates in common. For instance my John (d. 1799, presumed son of William) named an executor of his will who was a witness to the will of the other John (d. 1802) and there are many, many other instances like that. As would everybody, I would like some firm "proof" but sometimes "circumstantial evidence" stands up in court and it may be the best we can do. And, by the way: Hi, Lou! Mickey -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 10:31 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LOVE-L] Old Robert Love's Family Katheryn, My original data with James, John, Robert, William, and Alexander as brothers, came from the old "LOVE FAMILY HISTORICAL AND GENEALOGICAL QUARTERLY" published back in the 1950's by two Love Family Genealogists, Albert Lee Love, and Robert "Bob" Love. Since then many have picked at the data, but none have disproven any of it that I know about. There have been many additions to amplify the data, however. I have done little original research and do not claim to have all the answers. I too am looking for additional proof to confirm or change what I "think I know." Looking for answers, Love, Lou ==== LOVE Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from the list, send the word UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] or [email protected] ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Yes, there is a reputable genealogy DNA site. Go to www.familytreedna.com. I did a search for Love and came up with these: The following names matched your search request: NAMECOUNTLovejoy1Lovelace15Loveless6Lovett22Lovette4 Please try another search or add your name to the database by ordering today. One or more Surname Projects had an associated name that matched your request. Project Members Description --->Lovelace/Loveless 21 This project is for all males with surname Lovelac..Lovett 27 Project Goals: To DNA map as many Lovett li.. It is extremely confidential. My cousins's husband's side of the family did a DNA search through them and came up with a match. I think it's a great idea for people who have honestly searched through documents, etc. and still hit a brick wall. Katheryn [email protected] wrote:I put in a search for the Love family DNA research if it exists and I think I found some thoroughly disgusting sites. I`m only intersted in genealogy. Is there such a research being conducted at this time? I am of the Benjamin J. Love, son of Joseph Love of Ky and Davidson Co. Tenn. Also, what web site would one recommend to try and sort out my early Love genealogies and clear up a lot of the errors we`ve probably compounded through the years. though we did the best we could with what we had access to. It is much easier today. i get "blown away" when i see people upset because they don`t know what page and line of the census to search. Or when an error "is" found. LOL Sue in Al ==== LOVE Mailing List ==== To research Love surname: http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/l/o/LOVE/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more

Katheryn, My original data with James, John, Robert, William, and Alexander as brothers, came from the old "LOVE FAMILY HISTORICAL AND GENEALOGICAL QUARTERLY" published back in the 1950's by two Love Family Genealogists, Albert Lee Love, and Robert "Bob" Love. Since then many have picked at the data, but none have disproven any of it that I know about. There have been many additions to amplify the data, however. I have done little original research and do not claim to have all the answers. I too am looking for additional proof to confirm or change what I "think I know." Looking for answers, Love, Lou

No one seems to know anything about Thomas, the son of Robert (b.c. 1700). Some have said he was the one who married M. Guthrie, but that was Robert's grandson thru son John. However, look at this: 1741: "I appoint that my son Thomas shall live with his Mother & the Rest of the children During pleasur att the Dureation of my Exort(?)." [Source: Excerpt from Will of Robert Love, Lancaster Co., PA. Will Bk. A, Vol 1, pg. 61] I found a Thomas Love of Lancaster Co., PA, from Revolutionary War records who might have been a grandson (thru William, James or John). On the other hand, if Thomas who was to live with his mother when father Robert died (according to will) and he was born c. 1740 just before the will was made out, he would be 35-40 years old during the Rev. War. In that case, this could be Robert's son. 1777-80, private, Lancaster Co., 7th Btn, Co. 5. [Source: A(5) VII, pg. 648-650, "Military Accounts, Militia" Records of the Comptroller General of PA.] 1781, private, Lancaster Co., 1st Btn., Cos. 5, 6, 7. under Capt. Martin Huey "on a tour of Duty to Bucks County", General Return Muster Roll. [Source: A(5) VII, pg. 47-49, "Military Operations, "Military Accounts" Records of the Comptroller General or Auditor General of PA.] 1780-1783, no rank, Lancaster Co., 1st Btn, Co. 5. "Marched." [Source: A(5) VII, pg. 92-94, "Military Accounts, Militia" Records of the Comptroller General, PA.] The above found on www.digitalarchives.state.pa.us/\Archives\13\12\CDLOAD\revwar. Or enter "Revolutionary War Militia, Pennsylvania" in a Google search. Katheryn --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more

First, there are various lists of old Robert Love's wives & children. Some have more sons than others, and some have dtrs (dif. dtrs. at that). And now I'm finding two wives' names. I'd like to know the documentary source of those wives since I do not include direct ancestor data that hasn't been proven. Now, re. his children. I have gone through Robert's children and grandchildren trying to figure out more closely when they were born (we have the sons' names in his will), plus a few others (perhaps minors so not mentioned in the will). First, these are the birth years I have come up with: John, b. 1704 Thomas, b.c. 1708 Robert, b.c. 1713 Joseph b.c. 1728 Samuel b.c. 1734 Now I will tell you how I came up with these birth years. First, I think most men married around age 25 (from past research on others); so if I had a marriage date, I counted back 25 years. Second, if mar. date was unknown but b/d of oldest child was known, I added 1 yr (1st yr of marriage) to the approx. age of 25 when married. Thus 26 yrs. Third, sometimes one grandson had an actual birthdate listed (from a tombstone or family Bible?) and, assuming child lists were in birth order (usually), I allowed 3 years between children. Although most women back then gave birth every 2 years, allowing 3 years made room for children who had died or dtrs. that may not have been mentioned, the father being off at war, etc. Fourth, if wife's birth year was known, I counted forward 20 years (most married older than we think they did back then) for her marriage year, and one more until the oldest child was born. JOHN-1705 His actual birth date is known, I believe from his tombstone. THOMAS-c.1708: Nothing on him, tho some people say he is the Thomas who married M. Guthrie; but that was John's son & a grandson of Robert. So, I just gave him a birth date to fill in between proven John and Robert. ROBERT- c.1713: He was married in 1738. So, taking age 25 from that, gives him a close birth year of 1713. Plus son #6 Hezekiah was b. 1752, and working back 3 yrs between sons still gives him a birth year very close to 1713. JOSEPH-c.1728: Son #1 Rbt. was b. 1754. Son #2 Wm. was m. 1785, giving him an close birth year of 1760. Son #4 David was b. 1763. Counting back 26 yrs (age 25 at marg. & 1 year to have 1st child) from Son #1 Robert's birth is 1728. WILLIAM-c.1729: Grandsons through son #2, Thomas, started with gr son #1 Henry b. 1784. Counting back 26 yrs gave Thomas' birth c.1758. Counting back 3 years for son #1 John to be born (c. 1755). Then counting back 26 years gave William's birth at c.1729. SAMUEL-c.1734: He was married 1759, so I counted back 25 years. JAMES?-c.1703: I haven't accepted him as a proven son yet, but if you want to include him, son #2 (John)'s son John was b. 1755. And son #3 (James Jr)'s dtr. Jane was m. 1785 giving her a birth year of c.1765, and her father a birth year of c.1737. Allowing 3 years between each child, and the first yr of marriage and age 25 at age of James' marriage gives c. 1703. ALEXANDER?-1718: I haven't accepted him as a proven son yet either, but his birth year (tombstone? family Bible?) is known. This sounds complicated, but if you will sit down with your family group sheets and count back allowing for births and marriages, it should work out the same way for you. What about possible dtrs? I've run in to Dorcas, Mary and Jean. If you want to include them, fit them in between Robert, Joseph and Samuel. I think this method is a more educated guess. Katheryn --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more