I think we would all be thrilled if we can document two things -- 1) The parents of our Robert (1) and Elizabeth. 2) How this John and Elizabeth LLewellyn are related. Like many of you, I've seen Robert's parents listed in several places... some say it was John, others Joseph, and a couple of others say Robert Sr. To date, I know of absolutely no evidence to support any of these speculations. However, at least we have some clues to work on ... hopefully something will turn up. Regards, ///Steve Looney//