Carol: Sorry to butt in on ya'lls conversation here, but in reference to your letter below, thought I'd mention that I have seen her name listed as Elizabeth Llewellyn several times, on various peoples notes. Of course, I haven't a clue where that name came from since there doesn't seem to be any legal documentation available for reference. I stress again. . .my info came from personal notes, not legal documentation. Just thought it might give you a name to be aware of in case you run across it anywhere. I envy you your trip to the Isle of Man. Was there once and it is wonderful!! Karen Luna Ray At 04:11 PM 1/28/00 -0500, you wrote: >Steve, >The names of John Llewellyn, esq. of Peel and Capt. John Llewhellin make me >wonder if they might be connected to our mystery woman ? Llewellyn or >Llewellyn ? >It would seem most likely that Llewellyn would have been her maiden name >rather than a first name. >Let me know if you have any other thoughts. since my trip to IOM has been >set for the end of April rather than July, I'd like to go armed with as many >clues as possible. >Carol >----- Original Message ----- >From: <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 3:53 PM >Subject: [LOONEY-L] Re: [Isle of Man stuff > > >> For those you who haven't the time nor the tools to >> search this site, here's some info I collected >> some time ago from the Manx Notebook >> >> ///Steve Looney/// >> >> ============================== >> An Excellent link from which to begin a search >> of MANX families >> >> http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Contrib/manx/search.htm >> >> ============================== >> Year Mothers Name Parish Fathers Name Parish >> >> JANE LOONEY Maughold EWAN CALEY Lezayre >> JANE LOONEY Maughold ROBERT LOGAN >> ============================== >> >> HOW EARLY MANX FAMILIES MIGRATED FROM BRIMFIELD TO GALVA >> DESCRIBED IN ACCOUNT BY CHARLOTTE PRATT AND MRS. JOHN FARRAGET >> >> Robert LOONEY, of Kirk Maughold, landed at an eastern port in 185? >> and naturally gravitated to Brimfield. After a period of four years >> he went back to the Isle of Man and married Eleanor CORKILL. >> They arrived in Galva the following spring and took up farming. >> At thetime of his death Robert LOONEY owned 180 acres of land. >> >> ============================== >> Some Social Aspects of Castletown in the Eighteenth and Nineteenth >> Centuries >> >> by T. M. Moore >> >> In 1700 Castletown was still under a semi-feudal system with the >> Earls of Derby as its Lords. Information about the inhabitants and >> their relationship with the >> Lord can be gained by a study of the Petty Disbursements. >> >> The sums are written in Manx a >> nd English currency. The English pound being worth >> £1. 3s. 4d. Manx. >> >> The Disbursements of sallarys and pensions to officers and soldiers, >> etc., for Lord Good 1700 were for Christmas quarter- >> >> Thos. Looney Soldr £ 1. Ss. >> ============================== >> >> ======================== >> Directory of Lonan >> http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Contrib/manx/fulltext/tg1863/ln.htm >> >> POST OFFICE at John Kinley's, Laxey. Letters arrive from Ramsev, >> at 6.45 a.m., and from Douglas, at 6.30 p.m. Letters are despatehed >> to Douglas, at 6.45 a.m., and to Ramsey, at 6.30 p.m. >> On packet days, according to arrival and departure of boats. >> Money Orders granted and paid, and Post Office >> Savings' Bank business transacted from 9 a.m. till 6 p.m. >> >> Looney Matthias,joiner,Ballagawne >> >> FARMERS >> >> Looney Thomas, Ballamooar >> >> ======================== >> Directory of Marown >> http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Contrib/manx/fulltext/tg1863/mn.htm >> >> BLACKSMITHS. >> >> >>>>> Just wondering about the phonetics of these names <<<<< >> Lewin Joseph, Ballawilley Killey >> Lewin Thomas, Ballabeg >> >> Posr OFFICE at Robert Kelly's, Crosby. Letters despatched to >> Douglas 1 hour and 50 minutes before the departure of the Packet >> from that Port. Those Marked + are at Crosby. >> >> +Looney Mrs. Christian, 4 Eyreton terrace >> >> >> ======================== >> Directory of MAUGHOLD >> http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Contrib/manx/fulltext/tg1863/bn.htm >> >> FARMERS. >> >> Looney Edward, Ballakillier >> Looney Ewan, Ballacreggan >> Looney Francis, Balldromabeg >> Looney George, Ballayella >> Looney Jobu, Ballaskaighbeg >> Looney Joseph, Maraguher >> Looney Patrick, Ballakillier >> Looney Robert, Flount Sayle >> Looney Thomas, Ballakillier >> Looney Thomas >> >> ======================== >> Directory of Onchan >> http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Contrib/manx/fulltext/tg1863/on.htm >> >> FARMERS. >> >> Lewin Robert, Ballerigrey >> >> ======================== >> Directory of CASTLETOWN, BALLASALLA, AND MALEW PARISH >> http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Contrib/manx/fulltext/pg1837/ca.htm >> >> HIGH BAILIFF'S OFFICE, >> PARLIAMENT SQUARE >> >> Clerk Samuel Moore Looney. >> >> ======================== >> Directory of JURBY PARISH >> http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Contrib/manx/fulltext/pg1837/jy.htm >> >> SCHOOLS. >> >> PAROCHIAL, Jurby - John Looney master >> >> ======================== >> THE ISLE OF MAN CHARITIES. >> PRINTED BY D. MARPLES, LORD-STREET. 1831. >> >> KIRK CHIRST LEZAYRE. >> >> PAROCHIAL SCHOOL.-THOMAS LOONEY, Master. >> He receives from the Impropriate Fund £5 10 0 >> >From Lady Elizabeth Hasting's Charity . ~ 2 13 0 >> Interest on Mrs. Curphev's and Mr. Corlett's Bequests - 0 7 2 >> Major Christian bequeathed lets. a year to the >> Petty School of Lezayre, payable out of Lands called >> Close-hommey-vane 0 8 7 Brit. £8 18 9 >> >> KIRK MAUGHOLD, INCLUDING THE TOWN OF RAMSEY >> >> Extract from the Will of Thos. Allen, Son of the Rev. James Allen, >> A.D.1750. >> >> " They [his sisters] paying five pounds to the poor of Ramsey, >> to the trust of the Wardens and Minister, as they and my loving >> step-father (Mr. Jno.Llewellyn) and mother shall think fit, >> to be for ever secured, to pay yearly interest out of the same." >> >> >> ======================== >> ISLE OF MAN DIRECTORY AND GUIDE >> [Part of 1825 New Commercial Directory of Scotland] >> http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Contrib/manx/fulltext/pg1823/civil.htm >> >> CIVIL OFFICERS AND MEMBERS OF THE LEGISLATURE. >> >> HIGH BAILIFFS. >> >> John Llewellyn, esq Peel. >> >> HOUSE OF KEYS. >> >> John Llewellyn, esq Peel. >> >> ======================== >> ISLE OF MAN DIRECTORY AND GUIDE >> [Part of 1825 New Commercial Directory of Scotland] >> http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Contrib/manx/fulltext/pg1823/do.htm >> >> DOUGLAS -- THE most considerable Town and Seaport in the Island >> MERCHANTS, TRADERS, &c. >> >> Looney Wm tailor, Post-office-la. >> >> CASTLETOWN >> PROFESSIONAL PERSONS &c. >> >> Looney S. M. advocate, Bowling-.gr >> >> LONAN >> Looney -, Esq. Ballarogar >> >> ======================== >> IOM graveyards >> >> >> MEMORIALS OF " GOD'S ACRE," >> BEING: >> MONUMENTAL INSCRIPTIONS >> IN THE ISLE OF MAN, >> TAKEN IN THE SUMMER OF 1797. >> BY JOHN FELTHAM AND EDWARD WRIGHT. >> >> ========== KIRK BRIDE ========== >> >> 1765 Rev.:Ewan Looney, 30th December, >> Erectcd by his disconsolate Parents. >> " Te domus eximium sonii te dulce levamen >> Nostri te colimus, memori pietate colemus." >> >> ========== KIRK CHRIST, LEZAYRE ========== >> >> 1776 John Kneal, March 20th, >> Erected by Captn. John Lewhellin, to perpetuate the memory >> of a true and faithful servant. >> >> 1766 Jane Howard alias Looney, wife of Charles Howard, of Ramsey, >> died April 12th, >> >> ========== KIRK LONAN ========== >> >> 1689 Margaret Looney, died August 25th, >> >> 1779 Robert Hampton, buried 14th January, >> 1781 Ann Hampton alias Looney, his wife, 23rd May, >> >> ========== KIRK MALEW ========== >> >> 1711 Deb. Looney, April 19th, >> >> 72 >> 1714 Thomas Looney, buried January 27th >> >> 1775 Cath. Quaggin alias Looney, wife of Thomas Quaggin, of >> Ballavalley, 6th May, >> With two of their children, Ewan and Eliz. >> >> 1755 Mrs. Eliz. Browne alias Looney, died Nov. 16th, >> >> ========== KIRK MAUGHOLD ========== >> >> 1782 Capt. John Lewhellin, 27th May, >> >> 1742 John Lewhellin, an infant, buried December 11th, >> >> 1783 John Looney, buried May 24th, >> >> 1782 Two children of Thomas Looney, of Ballayiley, >> >> Three children of Robert Lewney, Agneash, vizt.: >> >> >> ========== Parish Register KIRK MAUGHOLD ========== >> >> 1747. " Cath Fila +3 Mr Jon. Lewhellin, October 26, being the first >> (baptism) in the chappell after re-building." This was Ballure Chapel >> which was consecrated by Bishop Wilson in this year. >> >> ========== Parish Register KIRK ONCHAN ========== >> >> 1762.-"Joney Looney ale Ooriaige (in her 100 year)." >> >> =================== >> Known Emigrant Ships and Manifests >> >> >http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Contrib/manx/famhist/genealgy/mfests.htm#Penelope >> Brig Penelope >> >> Reported leaving Liverpool 17 April, Arrived New York 11 June >> 1827 (ref #340) 315 tons burthen, Thos Luecock(?), Master. >> >> Isabella Looney, 80; Mary Looney, 31; Jane Looney, 6; >> Mary Looney, 4; Esther Looney 1 >> Robert Brew, 32, Labourer >> Jane Brew, 36; Robt Brew, 8; Margaret Brew 6; >> John Brew 4; Catherine Brew 1 >> Robt. Quayle, 6 [this child may have been travelling >> with above party] >> >> This I believe is a three generation extended family: >> Robert Brew m. Jane Looney 9 Jul 1814 at Kk Maughold, >> their children, all baptised at Kk Maughold were >> Robert (14 May 1815), Margaret (8 Feb 1818), >> John (18 Mar 1821) and Catherine (26 Sept 1824) - >> though the sequence of names is correct all ages seem to be >> deflated by 1 or 2 years. >> >> Jane Looney was most likely daughter of William Looney and >> Isabel Curphey, married 8 Nov 1777 at Santon, baptised 14 Nov >> 1790 at Douglas St Matthews. >> Other children of William and Isabel found in the IGI are >> Catherine (9 Sep 1778 Douglas St Matthew), >> John (3 Mar 1782 Douglas St George), >> Elizabeth (21 Jan 1784 Douglas St Matthew - presumed died >> young), >> Elizabeth (14 Jun 1786 Douglas St Matthew). So far I have >> not found Mary Looney who would presumeably >> be a daughter-in-law. >> A good candidate for Robert Quayle is first child of >> Robert Quayle and Esther Looney, married 5 Dec 1818 with >> Robert baptised 21 Nov 1819, all at Kk >> Maughold, however I cannot yet connect him with the >> others in the party. >> Note that any child under 7 probably travelled at a >> third of the adult fare - good excuse to deflate ages! >> >> =================== >> http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Contrib/manx/manxnb/v08p149.htm >> >> SURNAMES DERIVED FROM PERSONAL >> NAMES OF PURELY NATIVE ORIGIN >> CHAPTER II: PART II. >> >> LOONEY, CONTRACTED FROM O'Luinigh, 'Luinigh's descendant,' >> (luitineach, armed.') >> >> Gillacrist O'LUINIGH, Lord of Cinel Moen,' A.D. 1090* >> The O'LOONEYS were chiefs of Mulntir Loney, in Tyrone. >> >> Compare (Irish) O'LOONEY, LOONEY. >> >> M'LAWNEY [1504, LOWNYE [1540], LOWENY [1602], LOWNIE [1623], LEWNEY >> [1626], >> LOONEY [1644], LONEY [1681]. >> >> Jurby (vc), Marown, Lezayre, Malew, Santon, Onchan, Lonan (c), >> elsewhere (u). >> >> * Four Mast., Vol. ll., p. 939. >> ================== >> >> >> ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== >> If you find a web page somewhere listing Manx, Irish or Scotch surnames >> and they don't include LOONEY/LUNA/etc., send them a note to let them >> know we're around. The more advertising we have, the more help we get. >> > > >==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== >If you find a web page somewhere listing Manx, Irish or Scotch surnames >and they don't include LOONEY/LUNA/etc., send them a note to let them >know we're around. The more advertising we have, the more help we get. > >