Thanks Karen, I have her listed as Elizabeth as well, but nothing that proves it yet. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that I may find something when I visit IOM. I'll let you know if I do. Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [LOONEY-L] Re: [Isle of Man stuff > > Carol: > > Sorry to butt in on ya'lls conversation here, but in reference to your > letter below, thought I'd mention that I have seen her name listed as > Elizabeth Llewellyn several times, on various peoples notes. Of course, I > haven't a clue where that name came from since there doesn't seem to be any > legal documentation available for reference. I stress again. . .my info > came from personal notes, not legal documentation. Just thought it might > give you a name to be aware of in case you run across it anywhere. > > I envy you your trip to the Isle of Man. Was there once and it is wonderful!! > > Karen Luna Ray > > > At 04:11 PM 1/28/00 -0500, you wrote: > >Steve, > >The names of John Llewellyn, esq. of Peel and Capt. John Llewhellin make me > >wonder if they might be connected to our mystery woman ? Llewellyn or > >Llewellyn ? > >It would seem most likely that Llewellyn would have been her maiden name > >rather than a first name. > >Let me know if you have any other thoughts. since my trip to IOM has been > >set for the end of April rather than July, I'd like to go armed with as many > >clues as possible. > >Carol > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 3:53 PM > >Subject: [LOONEY-L] Re: [Isle of Man stuff > > > > > >> For those you who haven't the time nor the tools to > >> search this site, here's some info I collected > >> some time ago from the Manx Notebook > >> > >> ///Steve Looney/// > >> > >> ============================== > >> An Excellent link from which to begin a search > >> of MANX families > >> > >> http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Contrib/manx/search.htm > >> > >> ============================== > >> Year Mothers Name Parish Fathers Name Parish > >> > >> JANE LOONEY Maughold EWAN CALEY Lezayre > >> JANE LOONEY Maughold ROBERT LOGAN > >> ============================== > >> > >> HOW EARLY MANX FAMILIES MIGRATED FROM BRIMFIELD TO GALVA > >> DESCRIBED IN ACCOUNT BY CHARLOTTE PRATT AND MRS. JOHN FARRAGET > >> > >> Robert LOONEY, of Kirk Maughold, landed at an eastern port in 185? > >> and naturally gravitated to Brimfield. After a period of four years > >> he went back to the Isle of Man and married Eleanor CORKILL. > >> They arrived in Galva the following spring and took up farming. > >> At thetime of his death Robert LOONEY owned 180 acres of land. > >> > >> ============================== > >> Some Social Aspects of Castletown in the Eighteenth and Nineteenth > >> Centuries > >> > >> by T. M. Moore > >> > >> In 1700 Castletown was still under a semi-feudal system with the > >> Earls of Derby as its Lords. Information about the inhabitants and > >> their relationship with the > >> Lord can be gained by a study of the Petty Disbursements. > >> > >> The sums are written in Manx a > >> nd English currency. The English pound being worth > >> £1. 3s. 4d. Manx. > >> > >> The Disbursements of sallarys and pensions to officers and soldiers, > >> etc., for Lord Good 1700 were for Christmas quarter- > >> > >> Thos. Looney Soldr £ 1. Ss. > >> ============================== > >> > >> ======================== > >> Directory of Lonan > >> http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Contrib/manx/fulltext/tg1863/ln.htm > >> > >> POST OFFICE at John Kinley's, Laxey. Letters arrive from Ramsev, > >> at 6.45 a.m., and from Douglas, at 6.30 p.m. Letters are despatehed > >> to Douglas, at 6.45 a.m., and to Ramsey, at 6.30 p.m. > >> On packet days, according to arrival and departure of boats. > >> Money Orders granted and paid, and Post Office > >> Savings' Bank business transacted from 9 a.m. till 6 p.m. > >> > >> Looney Matthias,joiner,Ballagawne > >> > >> FARMERS > >> > >> Looney Thomas, Ballamooar > >> > >> ======================== > >> Directory of Marown > >> http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Contrib/manx/fulltext/tg1863/mn.htm > >> > >> BLACKSMITHS. > >> > >> >>>>> Just wondering about the phonetics of these names <<<<< > >> Lewin Joseph, Ballawilley Killey > >> Lewin Thomas, Ballabeg > >> > >> Posr OFFICE at Robert Kelly's, Crosby. Letters despatched to > >> Douglas 1 hour and 50 minutes before the departure of the Packet > >> from that Port. Those Marked + are at Crosby. > >> > >> +Looney Mrs. Christian, 4 Eyreton terrace > >> > >> > >> ======================== > >> Directory of MAUGHOLD > >> http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Contrib/manx/fulltext/tg1863/bn.htm > >> > >> FARMERS. > >> > >> Looney Edward, Ballakillier > >> Looney Ewan, Ballacreggan > >> Looney Francis, Balldromabeg > >> Looney George, Ballayella > >> Looney Jobu, Ballaskaighbeg > >> Looney Joseph, Maraguher > >> Looney Patrick, Ballakillier > >> Looney Robert, Flount Sayle > >> Looney Thomas, Ballakillier > >> Looney Thomas > >> > >> ======================== > >> Directory of Onchan > >> http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Contrib/manx/fulltext/tg1863/on.htm > >> > >> FARMERS. > >> > >> Lewin Robert, Ballerigrey > >> > >> ======================== > >> Directory of CASTLETOWN, BALLASALLA, AND MALEW PARISH > >> http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Contrib/manx/fulltext/pg1837/ca.htm > >> > >> HIGH BAILIFF'S OFFICE, > >> PARLIAMENT SQUARE > >> > >> Clerk Samuel Moore Looney. > >> > >> ======================== > >> Directory of JURBY PARISH > >> http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Contrib/manx/fulltext/pg1837/jy.htm > >> > >> SCHOOLS. > >> > >> PAROCHIAL, Jurby - John Looney master > >> > >> ======================== > >> THE ISLE OF MAN CHARITIES. > >> PRINTED BY D. MARPLES, LORD-STREET. 1831. > >> > >> KIRK CHIRST LEZAYRE. > >> > >> PAROCHIAL SCHOOL.-THOMAS LOONEY, Master. > >> He receives from the Impropriate Fund £5 10 0 > >> >From Lady Elizabeth Hasting's Charity . ~ 2 13 0 > >> Interest on Mrs. Curphev's and Mr. Corlett's Bequests - 0 7 2 > >> Major Christian bequeathed lets. a year to the > >> Petty School of Lezayre, payable out of Lands called > >> Close-hommey-vane 0 8 7 Brit. £8 18 9 > >> > >> KIRK MAUGHOLD, INCLUDING THE TOWN OF RAMSEY > >> > >> Extract from the Will of Thos. Allen, Son of the Rev. James Allen, > >> A.D.1750. > >> > >> " They [his sisters] paying five pounds to the poor of Ramsey, > >> to the trust of the Wardens and Minister, as they and my loving > >> step-father (Mr. Jno.Llewellyn) and mother shall think fit, > >> to be for ever secured, to pay yearly interest out of the same." > >> > >> > >> ======================== > >> ISLE OF MAN DIRECTORY AND GUIDE > >> [Part of 1825 New Commercial Directory of Scotland] > >> http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Contrib/manx/fulltext/pg1823/civil.htm > >> > >> CIVIL OFFICERS AND MEMBERS OF THE LEGISLATURE. > >> > >> HIGH BAILIFFS. > >> > >> John Llewellyn, esq Peel. > >> > >> HOUSE OF KEYS. > >> > >> John Llewellyn, esq Peel. > >> > >> ======================== > >> ISLE OF MAN DIRECTORY AND GUIDE > >> [Part of 1825 New Commercial Directory of Scotland] > >> http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Contrib/manx/fulltext/pg1823/do.htm > >> > >> DOUGLAS -- THE most considerable Town and Seaport in the Island > >> MERCHANTS, TRADERS, &c. > >> > >> Looney Wm tailor, Post-office-la. > >> > >> CASTLETOWN > >> PROFESSIONAL PERSONS &c. > >> > >> Looney S. M. advocate, Bowling-.gr > >> > >> LONAN > >> Looney -, Esq. Ballarogar > >> > >> ======================== > >> IOM graveyards > >> > >> > >> MEMORIALS OF " GOD'S ACRE," > >> BEING: > >> MONUMENTAL INSCRIPTIONS > >> IN THE ISLE OF MAN, > >> TAKEN IN THE SUMMER OF 1797. > >> BY JOHN FELTHAM AND EDWARD WRIGHT. > >> > >> ========== KIRK BRIDE ========== > >> > >> 1765 Rev.:Ewan Looney, 30th December, > >> Erectcd by his disconsolate Parents. > >> " Te domus eximium sonii te dulce levamen > >> Nostri te colimus, memori pietate colemus." > >> > >> ========== KIRK CHRIST, LEZAYRE ========== > >> > >> 1776 John Kneal, March 20th, > >> Erected by Captn. John Lewhellin, to perpetuate the memory > >> of a true and faithful servant. > >> > >> 1766 Jane Howard alias Looney, wife of Charles Howard, of Ramsey, > >> died April 12th, > >> > >> ========== KIRK LONAN ========== > >> > >> 1689 Margaret Looney, died August 25th, > >> > >> 1779 Robert Hampton, buried 14th January, > >> 1781 Ann Hampton alias Looney, his wife, 23rd May, > >> > >> ========== KIRK MALEW ========== > >> > >> 1711 Deb. Looney, April 19th, > >> > >> 72 > >> 1714 Thomas Looney, buried January 27th > >> > >> 1775 Cath. Quaggin alias Looney, wife of Thomas Quaggin, of > >> Ballavalley, 6th May, > >> With two of their children, Ewan and Eliz. > >> > >> 1755 Mrs. Eliz. Browne alias Looney, died Nov. 16th, > >> > >> ========== KIRK MAUGHOLD ========== > >> > >> 1782 Capt. John Lewhellin, 27th May, > >> > >> 1742 John Lewhellin, an infant, buried December 11th, > >> > >> 1783 John Looney, buried May 24th, > >> > >> 1782 Two children of Thomas Looney, of Ballayiley, > >> > >> Three children of Robert Lewney, Agneash, vizt.: > >> > >> > >> ========== Parish Register KIRK MAUGHOLD ========== > >> > >> 1747. " Cath Fila +3 Mr Jon. Lewhellin, October 26, being the first > >> (baptism) in the chappell after re-building." This was Ballure Chapel > >> which was consecrated by Bishop Wilson in this year. > >> > >> ========== Parish Register KIRK ONCHAN ========== > >> > >> 1762.-"Joney Looney ale Ooriaige (in her 100 year)." > >> > >> =================== > >> Known Emigrant Ships and Manifests > >> > >> > >http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Contrib/manx/famhist/genealgy/mfests.htm#Penelop e > >> Brig Penelope > >> > >> Reported leaving Liverpool 17 April, Arrived New York 11 June > >> 1827 (ref #340) 315 tons burthen, Thos Luecock(?), Master. > >> > >> Isabella Looney, 80; Mary Looney, 31; Jane Looney, 6; > >> Mary Looney, 4; Esther Looney 1 > >> Robert Brew, 32, Labourer > >> Jane Brew, 36; Robt Brew, 8; Margaret Brew 6; > >> John Brew 4; Catherine Brew 1 > >> Robt. Quayle, 6 [this child may have been travelling > >> with above party] > >> > >> This I believe is a three generation extended family: > >> Robert Brew m. Jane Looney 9 Jul 1814 at Kk Maughold, > >> their children, all baptised at Kk Maughold were > >> Robert (14 May 1815), Margaret (8 Feb 1818), > >> John (18 Mar 1821) and Catherine (26 Sept 1824) - > >> though the sequence of names is correct all ages seem to be > >> deflated by 1 or 2 years. > >> > >> Jane Looney was most likely daughter of William Looney and > >> Isabel Curphey, married 8 Nov 1777 at Santon, baptised 14 Nov > >> 1790 at Douglas St Matthews. > >> Other children of William and Isabel found in the IGI are > >> Catherine (9 Sep 1778 Douglas St Matthew), > >> John (3 Mar 1782 Douglas St George), > >> Elizabeth (21 Jan 1784 Douglas St Matthew - presumed died > >> young), > >> Elizabeth (14 Jun 1786 Douglas St Matthew). So far I have > >> not found Mary Looney who would presumeably > >> be a daughter-in-law. > >> A good candidate for Robert Quayle is first child of > >> Robert Quayle and Esther Looney, married 5 Dec 1818 with > >> Robert baptised 21 Nov 1819, all at Kk > >> Maughold, however I cannot yet connect him with the > >> others in the party. > >> Note that any child under 7 probably travelled at a > >> third of the adult fare - good excuse to deflate ages! > >> > >> =================== > >> http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Contrib/manx/manxnb/v08p149.htm > >> > >> SURNAMES DERIVED FROM PERSONAL > >> NAMES OF PURELY NATIVE ORIGIN > >> CHAPTER II: PART II. > >> > >> LOONEY, CONTRACTED FROM O'Luinigh, 'Luinigh's descendant,' > >> (luitineach, armed.') > >> > >> Gillacrist O'LUINIGH, Lord of Cinel Moen,' A.D. 1090* > >> The O'LOONEYS were chiefs of Mulntir Loney, in Tyrone. > >> > >> Compare (Irish) O'LOONEY, LOONEY. > >> > >> M'LAWNEY [1504, LOWNYE [1540], LOWENY [1602], LOWNIE [1623], LEWNEY > >> [1626], > >> LOONEY [1644], LONEY [1681]. > >> > >> Jurby (vc), Marown, Lezayre, Malew, Santon, Onchan, Lonan (c), > >> elsewhere (u). > >> > >> * Four Mast., Vol. ll., p. 939. > >> ================== > >> > >> > >> ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== > >> If you find a web page somewhere listing Manx, Irish or Scotch surnames > >> and they don't include LOONEY/LUNA/etc., send them a note to let them > >> know we're around. The more advertising we have, the more help we get. > >> > > > > > >==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== > >If you find a web page somewhere listing Manx, Irish or Scotch surnames > >and they don't include LOONEY/LUNA/etc., send them a note to let them > >know we're around. The more advertising we have, the more help we get. > > > > > > > ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== > If you find a web page somewhere listing Manx, Irish or Scotch surnames > and they don't include LOONEY/LUNA/etc., send them a note to let them > know we're around. The more advertising we have, the more help we get. >