Hi, Here is an paragraph from an article I ran across---maybe I am the last to see this, but just in case---- (Bill Looney) He became known a "The Black Fox". This name was probably given him because of an asscoiation with a Cherokee chief from the Guntersville area called Black Fox in the early 1800's, who also had the English name of John Looney and the Cherokee name of Enoli. Bill Looney would have been about six years old at the time of the Cherokee Removal from north Alabama when Chief John Looney, aka Enoli & Black Fox was removed into western Arkansas and eastern Oklahoma. One of Bill's great uncles was Captain John Looney ( Revolutionary War soldier) who was captured by the Cherokees in March 1782 on the southern branches of the Tennessee River, and may have left some progeny behind when he was set free after a few weeks of captivity. I am descended from this Chief John Looney, but had never heard that the other names were his also. The only info I had was that either John or his father (also John) was named Ugidlati--this is the phonetic sounding--I don't have the sylabary letters on my computer. Does anyone else have any info on this? beverlybirdwell@netxn.com