Hi Claudia and other Looney Researchers -- Yes, I'm pretty well convinced that "Eli" was my grandfather, although where they got "Eli" from Edward I'm still trying to reconcile in my mind. One more thing that I remember my mother saying about that household was that there were two other siblings living there that were unmarried. I think they were the ones who he called "Bud Will" and "Sis Sue". They were in their 30's in that 1880 census. Is Elizabeth's work available on the internet anywhere? My sister tells me that when we were kids an Ellen Looney came to our house to visit with our mother. I don't remember that occasion, but she says that Ellen was from Oklahoma. I think that was the only time she ever visited or communicated. Do you know of an Ellen Looney who lived in Oklahoma? I re-read the letter that my grandfather wrote to my uncle Howard and in it he mentions the fact that his mother, Mary Rushing, was a teacher in the little town of Tidwell Prairie, in Robertson County, I think. Any way, one of her pupils at that time was a Tom Connally, who became a state senator, or a US senator, I'm not sure which without researching his name. Do any of you researchers know the name? Well, I've got to go now so everybody take care Bob DClaudiaL@aol.com wrote: Bob, I feel sure the Eli in the 1800 census is your grandfather. The Walter D. would have been my grandfather since he was born in l872 (8 years old in 1800). The Will and Sue I also remember and had just assumed they were neice or nephew to FB since I knew he had had no children. Guess they were siblings which also makes sense. Now that I think of it, Walter would have been living there because his father and mother (Jesse Looney and Idelia (?) Scarborough Looney--can't find the records right now) divorced. Walter stayed with his daddy, and a sister of his went with his mom. So Walter ended up living with Doc and Annie who raised him. Interesting--in just now looking through my stuff which badly needs organizing I found a letter from Elizabeth Looney pointing out that Eli and Fanny did not have the same parents as Will or Sue since the mothers' birthplaces were not the same. So that is one more mystery solved. (Elizabeth took over Tilton's work, I believe, and worked on the Looneys for many years before she died about a year ago. So good to hear from you. Maybe I'll get inspired to work more on this line. The Looneys were suce interesting people, and I have really enjoyed learning more about them through this Looney-Line. Stay in touch. Claudia ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== Do the Manx LOONEY/LLEWNIEs connect to the Irish LOONEY/O'LOONEYs? Did the name originate in County Cork in 148 AD with the marriage of Con of a Hundred Battles (High King of Ireland in 158 AD) to the daughter of Olollar Ollium, King of Munster? Does it have TWO origins?