OK, Claudia, thanks for your help. Can you say how Ben fits in to our Looney line? That is, how he was related to our James W. Looney or to your Walter or to my Edward H. This is not the same Ben Looney who worked as a Judge in several of the north Texas counties is it? I'll check with my sister to see if she thinks this might have been the same Ellen. I have the feeling she probably visited some time in the late 40's - early 50's. Well, thanks again, Claudia and take care -- Bob DClaudiaL@aol.com wrote: Bob, I don't know who Will and Sue were. Wish I did, but I have always assumed (which we shouldn't do) that they were siblings of F.B. Yes, I did know an Ellen Looney very well. If it is the same one, she was married to Ben Looney, and I don't know where he fits in, but he was a cousin of my dad's and not a 1st cousin. They lived in Walters, Okla, until Ben died with cancer, and then Ellen moved to Lawton. Do you know when she visited your mother? My brother and I were kids when we went to Walters to visit Ellen and Ben, and she probably would have visited Texas or any relatives after Ben died. She lived in Lawton until she died (I'm not sure when) but she was still living in 1962 when I moved to Alabama. I doubt if Elizabeth Looney ever published her research. She was very interested in helping others and in tying all the lines together. This line was abuzz when she was dying because everyone knew her. Someone on this line will know the answer to that. Till later, Claudia ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== Do the Manx LOONEY/LLEWNIEs connect to the Irish LOONEY/O'LOONEYs? Did the name originate in County Cork in 148 AD with the marriage of Con of a Hundred Battles (High King of Ireland in 158 AD) to the daughter of Olollar Ollium, King of Munster? Does it have TWO origins?