5 Feb, Dear Karen, Guess it sometimes pays to be a seasoned citizen! The name "grancer" is seen so often in some of my various family searches. It is a name of respect for the grandfather-Grand Sir. Over time and usage, it just evolves into the easiest family name, Grandsir, or Grancer. Phonics was picturesque back then. Best wishes, Anne Rhea Bruce [email protected] wrote: > Hi Folks: > > I'm very curious to know where the information is coming from which names > our Peter Luna as Peter Grancer Luna , Peter Grancer II, III etc. I > certainly may be in error, but have always understood that "Grancer" and > sometimes "Old Grancer" was a nickname for our Peter (3). Peter (2) didn't > live long enough to be called "Old" anything. Did Peter (3) also not go by > Peter 'Pitman' Luna some? I always took that to mean he didn't have a > middle name or he would have used it and kept the name surname Looney? > Speculation on my part, of course. > > Do any of you all know what Grancer means? I'm thinking someone once told > me it was "Grandfather" in Spanish, but since I don't speak Spanish, I > don't have a clue as to whether that is correct or not. > > In any case, if Grancer was indeed his middle name, then we should use it > as such, but if not, isn't it going to be misleading to others who come > along after us? > > I would appreciate hearing others views regarding this. > > Karen Luna Ray > > ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== > Were there 12 brothers that arrived in Boston from Ireland in the 1850s? > Help us find them. Robert's family isn't the only LOONEYs out there! > And, other Manx LOONEYs who came later than Robert are on our list!