Larry: The two things that have always bothered me about George's missing older Joseph is the info posted by one of our previous members that this Joseph was buried in Bollinger Co., MO. He couldn't name his source but in my picking apart of Bollinger Co. I know there were only two Looney family's there. Mine at Zalma and the Arthur G. Looney family about 30 miles north of there at Patton. Arthur's family is pretty well documented without a Joseph in sight. Joseph & Almeda apparently didn't use the "naming pattern" that was so popular with many families. Or if they did they quit using after the first two. What to do, what to do. Just keep digging I guess. At least I know others are helping me dig. Pat