The photo on Panther-Yates' site IS the one from Larry Johnson's website (of Moses who was Larry Johnson's GG-Grandfather) [to which Yates gives credit.]. Larry's site, <A HREF="http://home.flash.net/~johnsonl/index.htm">http://home.flash.net/~johnsonl/index.htm</A> states: Here is a picture of my GG-Grandfather, <A HREF="http://home.flash.net/~johnsonl/moses1.gif">Moses Looney SR.</A> born Aug 6, 1780 Tennessee, died Jan 9, 1855 Lawrence Co, Alabama. My Panther-Yates apparently took the US-based date format 8/6/1780 [MM/DD/YYYY] and incorrectly read it as if it were the European-date format [DD/MM/YYYY] to get the incorrect June 8 (instead of August 6). I run across this very often in my work and have got into the habit of ALWAYS writing out the month abbreviation (in this case 6 Aug 1780). Larry also spelled out the month on his website so the birthdate error didn't come from there. I agree that in this picture Moses really looks native American! I've also been most interested in finding more about our Cherokee Looneys but, appearance aside, I don't think Moses is supposed to be native American. I'll probably order Panther-Yates' book. Dianne wrote that the website URL quoted doesn't work. Actually it does, but you need to remove the carriage return before making the link (or going in after the past and manually correcting the last part of the URL = 0015photo.html before trying to go to the site.) [I've removed the c.r. below] In a message dated 6/16/2003 4:51:28 PM Central Daylight Time, NSayed6266@AOL.Com writes: > Hi--have any of you seen the picture of Moses Looney (son of Captain John > Looney and Elizabeth Renfro) at Donald Panther-Yates website? The url is: > > http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/p/a/n/Donald-N-Pantheryates/PHOTO/ > 0015photo.html > > He has the birthday as being June 8, 1780. First, I thought Moses was born > Aug. 6, not June 8. Second, if he is not of the Cherokee Looneys, why does > he > look Native American? Third, is this even Moses at all? Mr. Yates has some > > interesting theories, and I'd like to know what the rest of you all think > about > them. > >