I am familiar with your Peter Looney line because it was Peter that fought at Vause's Fort and was captured during the French and Indian wars. Peter's account of his capture and escape in a British newspaper gave us some of the details of our early Looney relations in America. If you want to know more specifics about other Looney lines, please look at the Looney Family Manuscripts by Leroy Tilton that are posted to my web page as noted in my prior communication. While I can create and transmit a GEDCOM file, I do not like to do so and I have made it a practice not to do so. When I have shared my GEDCOM in the past, my information suddenly appeared on the internet posted to someone else's web site. On top of that they apparently merged my file with their own and created some erroneous relationships that were in error. My grandchildren suddenly became my children along with other glaring errors. The problem is, when these errors are posted to the internet, they seem to gain a life of their own and it is almost impossible to correct them. Much of my database is based on the Looney family manuscripts of Leroy Tilton so most of the data is already out there for anyone that wants it. If there are other family relationships that Tilton did not uncover or document, I will share those relationships that I do have and I will do what I can to help point researchers in the right direction. We recently moved into a new home so almost all of my files are still in boxes. At some point in the near future I hope to get them all organized again and my scanner hooked up so I can share images of these files with anyone that needs them. If you have a specific family that you have questions on, please let me know and I will try to uncover my family group sheets. Right now I will need a little bit of time to do this. Larry W. Johnson Keller, Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: "THOMAS STREET" <tomstreet@prodigy.net> To: <LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 12:39 AM Subject: Re: [LOONEY-L] Greetings > Larry, > > I am descended from your Robert Looney', Jr.'s brother Peter and would like to add to my database of descendants of their father Robert. I was interested in your reply to Robert Riddle's note. What was the birth date of the Fredrick B. Looney in your database? I don't have much on your line. I only have a Samuel listed as a son of your Robert Looney, Jr. and it ends there. I would appreciate more on your line including the birth dates and places for the Looney's listed in your reply below in your note. > > I have been a member of this group going all away back to the old "Looney Bin" on Prodigy. Most information is of other Looney / Luna lines, and it would make it more interesting reading all the notes if I have some idea how I am related to the others on the LIST. I am interested specially in others in Robert Jr's line. My e-mail service will allow me to receive a GEDCOM file or a Family Tree Maker files if you are willing to send me your line. > TOMSTREET@prodigy.net > > Thanks for the help. - - - Tom Street in Tacoma > > > > Larry Johnson <johnsonl@flash.net> wrote: > Robert, > > In my database I have Fredrick B. Looney, his parents, James William Looney > and Frances Smith, also our common ancestor, his grandparents Capt. John > Looney and Elizabeth Rentfro, his G-Grandparents, Robert Looney Jr. and > Margaret Rhea and then the GG-Grandparents, Robert and Elizabeth Looney of > Looney Creek VA. > > My database does not show a second wife for James William Looney, but it may > be that I have just not gotten around to entering that branch of our line > into my database. > > Being a descent of the Robert Looney Jr. line myself, I have a lot of > records on this branch in addition to a whole bunch of records on all the > other Looney family lines. To top all this off, I live in Keller, Texas > which is probably within 10 miles of where you live. > > I also have a web page on the Looney family and there you will find the > Looney family manuscripts by Leroy Tilton. Look at the part of the Robert > (2) Looney Jr. line. > Here is the address: http://home.flash.net/~johnsonl/ > > My grandparents lived in Falls County, TX (Rosebud, TX area). > > Larry W. Johnson > Keller, Texas > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Riddle" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 1:59 PM > Subject: [LOONEY-L] Greetings > > > Greetings Looney Researchers -- My name is Bob > Riddle. I have just joined the list so I suppose I > need to give as much of my Looney heritage as I can. > My mother's name was Hylma Y. Looney. She was the > daughter of Edward Hardin Looney, b. 7-22-1875, > Oakwood, Leon Co., TX. He was the son of James > William Looney, b. 4-22-1809, KY, and Mary Rushing, b. > Falls Co. or Robertson Co., TX. James's first wife, > Fanny Smith, b. 1-14-1811, KY, died 2-7-1864 in Cotton > Gin, Freestone Co., TX. James and Fanny had 7 > children, one of whom was Fredrick B. Looney, who > served as a doctor during the Civil War, not sure on > which side, and later when the family had moved to > Texas, he became a lawyer and owned a retail store in > Oakwood, Leon County and around 1900 was elected to > the Texas Legislature as a Representative from Leon > County, TX. After Fanny died, James married (I think) > Mary Rushing and had my grandfather, Edward H. Looney > in 1875. James would have been about 64. He died > when Ed was only 4. Ed had a little sister, Frances > Mae, who was only 2. They were sent to live with > their much older half brother, Fredrick B. Looney. > > I have no clear documentation that Ed was the son of > James William Looney and Mary Rushing. Only word of > mouth tradition and a letter that my grandfather sent > to his son, my uncle, in 1948, explaining much of the > above. I did find an entry in the 1880 US Census for > Freestone County, TX showing an "Eli" Looney, age 6 > and a "Fanny" Looney, age 4 living in the household of > their brother, F. B. Looney, age 44. It is my belief > that this "Eli" is my grandfather, Edward H. Looney. > > Is anyone in the group familiar with this family? I > believe my family stems back to Robert Looney who was > born on the Isle of Man and came to the Colonies in > the 1730's. > > I would love to make a clear connection between the > people I described in the first two paragraphs. > > Thanks for any help you can give me. > > Bob Riddle > Haltom City, TX > > > ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== > Do the Manx LOONEY/LLEWNIEs connect to the Irish LOONEY/O'LOONEYs? > Did the name originate in County Cork in 148 AD with the marriage of > Con of a Hundred Battles (High King of Ireland in 158 AD) to the > daughter of Olollar Ollium, King of Munster? Does it have TWO origins? > > > ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== > Do the Manx LOONEY/LLEWNIEs connect to the Irish LOONEY/O'LOONEYs? > Did the name originate in County Cork in 148 AD with the marriage of > Con of a Hundred Battles (High King of Ireland in 158 AD) to the > daughter of Olollar Ollium, King of Munster? Does it have TWO origins? > > > > ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== > Was "John" Robert's father? or brother? Was Robert's wife Elizabeth? Was > she a Stover or Llewellen? Was John's wife also a Llewellen (did sisters > marry brothers?)? How many of Robert's siblings and neices/nephews came > to America, too? Help us solve these mysteries today on the LOONEY list. >

Larry, I am descended from your Robert Looney', Jr.'s brother Peter and would like to add to my database of descendants of their father Robert. I was interested in your reply to Robert Riddle's note. What was the birth date of the Fredrick B. Looney in your database? I don't have much on your line. I only have a Samuel listed as a son of your Robert Looney, Jr. and it ends there. I would appreciate more on your line including the birth dates and places for the Looney's listed in your reply below in your note. I have been a member of this group going all away back to the old "Looney Bin" on Prodigy. Most information is of other Looney / Luna lines, and it would make it more interesting reading all the notes if I have some idea how I am related to the others on the LIST. I am interested specially in others in Robert Jr's line. My e-mail service will allow me to receive a GEDCOM file or a Family Tree Maker files if you are willing to send me your line. TOMSTREET@prodigy.net Thanks for the help. - - - Tom Street in Tacoma Larry Johnson <johnsonl@flash.net> wrote: Robert, In my database I have Fredrick B. Looney, his parents, James William Looney and Frances Smith, also our common ancestor, his grandparents Capt. John Looney and Elizabeth Rentfro, his G-Grandparents, Robert Looney Jr. and Margaret Rhea and then the GG-Grandparents, Robert and Elizabeth Looney of Looney Creek VA. My database does not show a second wife for James William Looney, but it may be that I have just not gotten around to entering that branch of our line into my database. Being a descent of the Robert Looney Jr. line myself, I have a lot of records on this branch in addition to a whole bunch of records on all the other Looney family lines. To top all this off, I live in Keller, Texas which is probably within 10 miles of where you live. I also have a web page on the Looney family and there you will find the Looney family manuscripts by Leroy Tilton. Look at the part of the Robert (2) Looney Jr. line. Here is the address: http://home.flash.net/~johnsonl/ My grandparents lived in Falls County, TX (Rosebud, TX area). Larry W. Johnson Keller, Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Riddle" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 1:59 PM Subject: [LOONEY-L] Greetings Greetings Looney Researchers -- My name is Bob Riddle. I have just joined the list so I suppose I need to give as much of my Looney heritage as I can. My mother's name was Hylma Y. Looney. She was the daughter of Edward Hardin Looney, b. 7-22-1875, Oakwood, Leon Co., TX. He was the son of James William Looney, b. 4-22-1809, KY, and Mary Rushing, b. Falls Co. or Robertson Co., TX. James's first wife, Fanny Smith, b. 1-14-1811, KY, died 2-7-1864 in Cotton Gin, Freestone Co., TX. James and Fanny had 7 children, one of whom was Fredrick B. Looney, who served as a doctor during the Civil War, not sure on which side, and later when the family had moved to Texas, he became a lawyer and owned a retail store in Oakwood, Leon County and around 1900 was elected to the Texas Legislature as a Representative from Leon County, TX. After Fanny died, James married (I think) Mary Rushing and had my grandfather, Edward H. Looney in 1875. James would have been about 64. He died when Ed was only 4. Ed had a little sister, Frances Mae, who was only 2. They were sent to live with their much older half brother, Fredrick B. Looney. I have no clear documentation that Ed was the son of James William Looney and Mary Rushing. Only word of mouth tradition and a letter that my grandfather sent to his son, my uncle, in 1948, explaining much of the above. I did find an entry in the 1880 US Census for Freestone County, TX showing an "Eli" Looney, age 6 and a "Fanny" Looney, age 4 living in the household of their brother, F. B. Looney, age 44. It is my belief that this "Eli" is my grandfather, Edward H. Looney. Is anyone in the group familiar with this family? I believe my family stems back to Robert Looney who was born on the Isle of Man and came to the Colonies in the 1730's. I would love to make a clear connection between the people I described in the first two paragraphs. Thanks for any help you can give me. Bob Riddle Haltom City, TX ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== Do the Manx LOONEY/LLEWNIEs connect to the Irish LOONEY/O'LOONEYs? Did the name originate in County Cork in 148 AD with the marriage of Con of a Hundred Battles (High King of Ireland in 158 AD) to the daughter of Olollar Ollium, King of Munster? Does it have TWO origins? ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== Do the Manx LOONEY/LLEWNIEs connect to the Irish LOONEY/O'LOONEYs? Did the name originate in County Cork in 148 AD with the marriage of Con of a Hundred Battles (High King of Ireland in 158 AD) to the daughter of Olollar Ollium, King of Munster? Does it have TWO origins?

Robert, In my database I have Fredrick B. Looney, his parents, James William Looney and Frances Smith, also our common ancestor, his grandparents Capt. John Looney and Elizabeth Rentfro, his G-Grandparents, Robert Looney Jr. and Margaret Rhea and then the GG-Grandparents, Robert and Elizabeth Looney of Looney Creek VA. My database does not show a second wife for James William Looney, but it may be that I have just not gotten around to entering that branch of our line into my database. Being a descent of the Robert Looney Jr. line myself, I have a lot of records on this branch in addition to a whole bunch of records on all the other Looney family lines. To top all this off, I live in Keller, Texas which is probably within 10 miles of where you live. I also have a web page on the Looney family and there you will find the Looney family manuscripts by Leroy Tilton. Look at the part of the Robert (2) Looney Jr. line. Here is the address: http://home.flash.net/~johnsonl/ My grandparents lived in Falls County, TX (Rosebud, TX area). Larry W. Johnson Keller, Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Riddle" <rlr007@sbcglobal.net> To: <LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 1:59 PM Subject: [LOONEY-L] Greetings Greetings Looney Researchers -- My name is Bob Riddle. I have just joined the list so I suppose I need to give as much of my Looney heritage as I can. My mother's name was Hylma Y. Looney. She was the daughter of Edward Hardin Looney, b. 7-22-1875, Oakwood, Leon Co., TX. He was the son of James William Looney, b. 4-22-1809, KY, and Mary Rushing, b. Falls Co. or Robertson Co., TX. James's first wife, Fanny Smith, b. 1-14-1811, KY, died 2-7-1864 in Cotton Gin, Freestone Co., TX. James and Fanny had 7 children, one of whom was Fredrick B. Looney, who served as a doctor during the Civil War, not sure on which side, and later when the family had moved to Texas, he became a lawyer and owned a retail store in Oakwood, Leon County and around 1900 was elected to the Texas Legislature as a Representative from Leon County, TX. After Fanny died, James married (I think) Mary Rushing and had my grandfather, Edward H. Looney in 1875. James would have been about 64. He died when Ed was only 4. Ed had a little sister, Frances Mae, who was only 2. They were sent to live with their much older half brother, Fredrick B. Looney. I have no clear documentation that Ed was the son of James William Looney and Mary Rushing. Only word of mouth tradition and a letter that my grandfather sent to his son, my uncle, in 1948, explaining much of the above. I did find an entry in the 1880 US Census for Freestone County, TX showing an "Eli" Looney, age 6 and a "Fanny" Looney, age 4 living in the household of their brother, F. B. Looney, age 44. It is my belief that this "Eli" is my grandfather, Edward H. Looney. Is anyone in the group familiar with this family? I believe my family stems back to Robert Looney who was born on the Isle of Man and came to the Colonies in the 1730's. I would love to make a clear connection between the people I described in the first two paragraphs. Thanks for any help you can give me. Bob Riddle Haltom City, TX ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== Do the Manx LOONEY/LLEWNIEs connect to the Irish LOONEY/O'LOONEYs? Did the name originate in County Cork in 148 AD with the marriage of Con of a Hundred Battles (High King of Ireland in 158 AD) to the daughter of Olollar Ollium, King of Munster? Does it have TWO origins?

Robert - I think I might be able to help you - please email me at anthonylooney@sbcglobal.net Thanks, Anthony Looney ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Riddle" <rlr007@sbcglobal.net> To: <LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 1:59 PM Subject: [LOONEY-L] Greetings > Greetings Looney Researchers -- My name is Bob > Riddle. I have just joined the list so I suppose I > need to give as much of my Looney heritage as I can. > My mother's name was Hylma Y. Looney. She was the > daughter of Edward Hardin Looney, b. 7-22-1875, > Oakwood, Leon Co., TX. He was the son of James > William Looney, b. 4-22-1809, KY, and Mary Rushing, b. > Falls Co. or Robertson Co., TX. James's first wife, > Fanny Smith, b. 1-14-1811, KY, died 2-7-1864 in Cotton > Gin, Freestone Co., TX. James and Fanny had 7 > children, one of whom was Fredrick B. Looney, who > served as a doctor during the Civil War, not sure on > which side, and later when the family had moved to > Texas, he became a lawyer and owned a retail store in > Oakwood, Leon County and around 1900 was elected to > the Texas Legislature as a Representative from Leon > County, TX. After Fanny died, James married (I think) > Mary Rushing and had my grandfather, Edward H. Looney > in 1875. James would have been about 64. He died > when Ed was only 4. Ed had a little sister, Frances > Mae, who was only 2. They were sent to live with > their much older half brother, Fredrick B. Looney. > > I have no clear documentation that Ed was the son of > James William Looney and Mary Rushing. Only word of > mouth tradition and a letter that my grandfather sent > to his son, my uncle, in 1948, explaining much of the > above. I did find an entry in the 1880 US Census for > Freestone County, TX showing an "Eli" Looney, age 6 > and a "Fanny" Looney, age 4 living in the household of > their brother, F. B. Looney, age 44. It is my belief > that this "Eli" is my grandfather, Edward H. Looney. > > Is anyone in the group familiar with this family? I > believe my family stems back to Robert Looney who was > born on the Isle of Man and came to the Colonies in > the 1730's. > > I would love to make a clear connection between the > people I described in the first two paragraphs. > > Thanks for any help you can give me. > > Bob Riddle > Haltom City, TX > > > ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== > Do the Manx LOONEY/LLEWNIEs connect to the Irish LOONEY/O'LOONEYs? > Did the name originate in County Cork in 148 AD with the marriage of > Con of a Hundred Battles (High King of Ireland in 158 AD) to the > daughter of Olollar Ollium, King of Munster? Does it have TWO origins? > >

Greetings Looney Researchers� --� My name is Bob Riddle.� I have just joined the list so I suppose I need to give as much of my Looney heritage as I can.� My mother's name was Hylma Y. Looney.� She was the daughter of Edward Hardin Looney, b. 7-22-1875, Oakwood, Leon Co., TX.� He was the son of James William Looney, b. 4-22-1809, KY, and Mary Rushing, b. Falls Co. or Robertson Co., TX.� James's first wife, Fanny Smith, b. 1-14-1811, KY, died 2-7-1864 in Cotton Gin, Freestone Co., TX.� James and Fanny had 7 children, one of whom was Fredrick B. Looney, who served as a doctor during the Civil War, not sure on which side, and later when the family had moved to Texas, he became a lawyer and owned a retail store in Oakwood, Leon County and around 1900 was elected to the Texas Legislature as a Representative from Leon County, TX.� After Fanny died, James married (I think) Mary Rushing and had my grandfather, Edward H. Looney in 1875.� James would have been about 64.� He died when Ed was only 4.� Ed had a little sister, Frances Mae, who was only 2.� They were sent to live with their much older half brother, Fredrick B. Looney. I have no clear documentation that Ed was the son of James William Looney and Mary Rushing.� Only word of mouth tradition and a letter that my grandfather sent to his son, my uncle, in 1948, explaining much of the above.� I did find an entry in the 1880 US Census for Freestone County, TX showing an "Eli" Looney, age 6 and a "Fanny" Looney, age 4 living in the household of their brother, F. B. Looney, age 44. It is my belief that this "Eli" is my grandfather, Edward H. Looney. Is anyone in the group familiar with this family? I believe my family stems back to Robert Looney who was born on the Isle of Man and came to the Colonies in the 1730's. I would love to make a clear connection between the people I described in the first two paragraphs. Thanks for any help you can give me. Bob Riddle Haltom City, TX

Rob (and Pete): Great idea, whether or not there is another 6th generation lurking out there. One of our greatest assets are the golden generation that remembers all the good stories. I hope you do post the addresses and let us honor this man. Pat

Hi, Robert: They may not be the 6th Generation, but my husband's Aunts Elizabeth and Dorothy ("Dobby") are fairly elderly 7th generationers. Aunt Elizabeth Looney Daniell is 96 and was a avid researcher and correspondent with Liz Looney for many years. She was the one who wrote Varney Graves in the 1977 article sent to the list recently. She has been very helpful to me on this branch of the family (Robert1, Adam2, Robert 3, Noah 4, Morgan 5, Mortimer 6). Aunt Dobby (Dorothy Looney Redfern) is a "mere" 89. They are both in nursing homes and not on-line, but their minds are still very sharp. Teresa McVeigh New Orleans, LA

Dear Looneys, I believe my father, Joseph H. "Pete" Looney, to be the last remaining 6th generation from Robert (1). Looking back through the generations most of his line were born late in their father's lives. Robert (1) had John (2) Sr. when he was probably 40, John (2) had his son Robert (3) when he was 54, Robert (3) had his son Daniel (4) when he was 41, Daniel (4) had his son Peter H. (5) when he was 46, and my grandfather Peter H.(5) had my dad when he was 51. Madge Looney Crane is in Dad's line through Daniel (4) and I have asked her if she knows of any other 6th generation family members still alive and she tells me that she does not. Does anyone on the list know of another 6th generation member? Dad was never very interested in family history. His sister "Sally" (Mildred) was the family historian because of her close relationship with Madge Looney. With the advent of the internet and Madge and Phillip's book he has become very interested. His new interest has resulted in visits to VA and the site of Looney's ferry / home as well as the hills of West Virginia where his Dad grew up including visits to many of the family cemeteries in the area around Looneyville including a solemn visit to the cemetery on the John (3) Looney farm where John (3) and Catherine Stover Looney are buried to scatter Aunt Sally's ashes so that she could return to her roots. The reason behind my query of the Looney List is that Dad will be celebrating his 80th birthday on August 19 and I thought emails from members of the list would make the day a really special one for him and a way for the family to honor the last of a generation. If no one can come up with another 6th generation member I'll post Dad's email and snail mail addresses in a later post. P.S. Dad, I know you'll read this - don't get mad at me. Thanks to all, Robert (7) Looney

1850 West Feliciana Co. (Parrish) LA. Joseph Looney.........47yr M.......b. TN. Robert W.---------24 M.....TN. John S.------19M.........TN David A----17M.........TN Hugh C.-----15M.........TN. Emaline-----13 F..........TN. Amanda C.---8 F...........TN. James K. P.---4 M.........TN.

Larry Johnson, you are going to have to dig into your files and help me out here! ha Okay, I think I just found what I have been looking for, BUT it sure does NOT say Joseph McMinn Looney: This is 1850, Louisiana, Bienville Co., Western District 48/48 John M. Loony.......39M....farmer....$1600......b. Tenn. Nancy Loony....................37F...................................b. Tenn. William Looney.....16M....laborer....b. Tenn (his surname spelled with e, while others did not have the e., was it a mistake or for distinction?) Delany Loony.........9F...............b. ARK. Martha Loony.........7F...............b. LA. (I was told this female went by Jane) Permilia Loony.......3F...............b. LA. Others in same county (parrish):These spelled on census as Looney, with the e. 151/151Absolom Looney....68M...Farmer....b. TN. Ellender Looney.....54F.....b. TN Benjamin F. Looney...17M...Laborer........b. TN Lucinda Looney....14F....TN. Jane C. Looney......12F....TN. Near neighbor to Absolom Looney, is: William Townsend 36 born TN. & wife ? Mary Townsend 19 born TN. 2young children Minerva 6 & George N 2, and a Matthew Townsend (looks like 59yrs) born TN. If this means anything to anyone. Larry, see what you have on these people, and was the John M. also known as Joseph M. for some reason?

1860 LA census Looney: R.J. 35 b TN Caddo parish J.D. 28 b LA Madison Matilda 21 Orleans 1870 LA census J.F. 32 Irel Caddo J.J. f 24 AL Caddo Madison 35 AL Carroll Jos. 30 GA Desoto ( a slave in his household...Worthless, 80)

Which Joseph? My "Joe" (James R.) went to the Nacogdoches area from DeSoto Parish, LA. Married Mary Jane Sample, > Bill's was from a different Joseph.

Perkalong, Please post your linage (with any siblings that you may know about that connect to the Looney of Desoto Parish, LA. Does anyone on this list have some SOLID INFO. on Joseph McMinn Looney, born about 1813 Hawkins Co. TN...........migrated to LA.??? (children all ended up in TX.) I need County name in LA., where he & his family lived, so I can verify info. This Joseph was supposedly son of Absolum 4 Looney & Nancy Long. I have been trying to piece this line together, as 3 of it's descendants are my 1st cousins. These cousins are unique, in that both their parents linage seem to lead back to Robert Looney Sr. & Elizabeth ___?___. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Perkalong@aol.com> To: <LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [LOONEY-L] Washington Co., AR Wills > Which Joseph? My "Joe" (James R.) went to the Nacogdoches area from DeSoto > Parish, LA. Married Mary Jane Sample, > > > > Bill's was from a different Joseph. > > > > ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== > Do the Manx LOONEY/LLEWNIEs connect to the Irish LOONEY/O'LOONEYs? > Did the name originate in County Cork in 148 AD with the marriage of > Con of a Hundred Battles (High King of Ireland in 158 AD) to the > daughter of Olollar Ollium, King of Munster? Does it have TWO origins? > >

Hi Jane, Surprisingly there are lots of Looney ancestors in TX. My husband, Bill, for one (still own a home in Houston), also James Looney there in Houston we found through the phone book, and quite a few others scattered throughout the state. Whenever we travel, at night when we are at the motel, Bill pulls out the telephone book to check out the Looneys. We have found quite a few this way. Some were interested in genealogy and some where definitely not and were unhelpful which was their right. Only James seems to be connected to Bill's direct line and he provided the exact info we needed at the time. It was so exciting to see his research and find one of our missing links. Can tell you that if you are uncertain exactly which line you spring from, you might find the earlier researchers may have hitched your ancestor to the wrong earlier ancestor. Bill's was from a different Joseph. Before we got a grip on the real line, we spent a lot of time going down the wrong path. We have so much more to glean from now than our earlier researchers and help each other where we can. The Houston Clayton Library is such a great source of information. In their second building, they house the family books. At least that is where they were the last time I visited. There is at least one book there on the Looney line. Some of the information was later found to be in error but is worth looking at. Also they have the Isaac Garrison book which includes some important Looney connections and other associated families. Many years ago, a distant "cousin" found Bill in the Clayton Library because Bill had noted on the sign-in sheet the family he was researching. She provided lots of info and support. Hi Diane! Bear in mind that when these books were written, they were providing the best information available at the time. We are thankful for the internet and all the information that is now available plus those willing to quickly share their research. I missed which line you are following. Come again? Are you from the Adam line? If so, there is an excellent researcher out there that needs to get his work into print before we "older researchers" die off. Hi Norman! Let us hear from you again. Nita, Central TX In a message dated 7/15/2004 9:13:49 PM Central Daylight Time, Janesaddicktion@AOL.Com writes: Hi Teresa, Many thanks for the info and definitely every bit of it helps!! I've only been on this list a few months and have already found several cousins here and there. It'd be grand if we could hold a local get together and really swap info/share photos. I'm in Houston, Texas and know there is a few Looneys in the Texas area. It seems like most of the Looneys here come from the Georgia side (observation only). My line traveled into Tennessee and then settled in Arkansas in 1804 I think. The OzarksWatch has a few good articles on the Looneys written by Donald Holliday (I think). Wishing everyone the best! Jane

Hi Teresa, Many thanks for the info and definately every bit of it helps!! I've only been on this list a few months and have already found several cousins here and there. It'd be grand if we could hold a local get together and really swap info/share photos. I'm in Houston, Texas and know there is a few Looneys in the Texas area. It seems like most of the Looneys here come from the Georgia side (observation only). My line traveled into Tennessee and then settled in Arkansas in 1804 I think. The OzarksWatch has a few good articles on the Looneys written by Donald Holliday (I think). Wishing everyone the best! Jane

Hi Teresa, I'm fairly new at some of the information that people might print out. Maybe Jane will know more about what your giving us. I've just started doing the Looney Family from my end and don't know too much about them yet. But I always print out any info that gets sent and might pertain to what I may be able to use. Thanks for helping out!! Brenda

Washington County, Arkansas, Index to Wills 1828-1931 Index to Probate Books A-K 1837-1901, compiled by Lois N. Miller, 1126 Sunset Dr., Fayetteville, AR, 72701 (book located in SAR Library, Louisvile, KY) p. 98 LOONEY Absolum 1860 See Samuel WILSON Book D p 103 Benjamin 1869 Adm Book E p 344, 623 Ellen 1860 See Samuel WILSON Book D p 103 Searching for information for Brenda and Jane, I found this. Hope it helps someone. Teresa McVeigh New Orleans, LA, USA

History of Hart County (GA), John William Baker, 1933, 3rd printing 2000, Wolfe Publishing, Fernandina Beach, FL, 32035, located in the Hart County GA Library, abstracted by Teresa McVeigh 4 June, 2004 P. 145-6 Knox's Bridge Knox's Bridge, a wooden structure which spans Tugaloo river at what was formerly Cleveland's Ferry where the public road leading from Pendleton, SC to Carnesville, GA, crossed said river, was built in the year 1854 by col. Samuel KNOX, of Franklin County, Ga., as an individual undertaking, at a cost of $10,000. Col. BOWMAN, of elberton, Ga., was the architect, and Col. Clark MASON was foreman of the work on one end of the bridge, and Judge Noah LOONEY was foreman on the other. [There is more information on the bridge and a picture, if anyone is interested. It was a toll bridge for many years but was bought by the two states of GA and SC and made a free bridge on Hwy. 59. It was still there in 1933 when the book was written, I don't think it is still standing.] p. 330-1 History of Hartwell Schools, lists teachers: Martin V. LOONEY and wife in 1873. Martin V. LOONEY and wife in 1875-6-7. Morgan H. LOONEY in 1881. George C. LOONEY, 1898-99-1900. Teresa McVeigh New Orleans, LA

Hi, Glenn: John didn't send the message in on passenger pigeons, Jim did, but he was just quoting an article written by Varley Graves in 1977 in the small town newspaper in Fayetteville, GA. Varley was in his 70's or so when he wrote this piece. I corresponded with him in the early 1980's and he was at least 80 years old then. He had many inaccuracies in his historical and genealogy columns, but he was so enthusiastic and collected so much information that he was fun to read and write to. He was also very opinionated. He may still be around for you to take up the passenger pigeon topic with, but he is probably over 100 by now, if he is still with us. I agree about the wholesale slaughter, which is what I have always heard, but Varley may have also had a good point about the forest clearing contributing to their demise--in those days farmers clear-cut forests, farmed a few years, grazed horses, cattle and pigs, then moved on, which is one reason our ancestors were so mobile--always looking for new land because they had wornout the old--especially farming cotton and tobacco. Morgan Harbin Looney, my husband's ancestor, moved from GA to AR, to TX teaching, opening schools, and going along with the general migration west. BTW, the last passenger pigeon is still at the Cincinatti Zoo--stuffed. Teresa ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~ Glenn's original message: John, Thanks for this most informative report; however, I take exception to your statement relating the extinction of the passenger pigeon to the cutting of the forests. Forests in 1914, when the last pigeon died, were more than adequate. The passenger pigeon was slaughtered wholesale by hunters and trappers who sought the birds as a cheap source of meat. The following link is just one of the many sources available for this conclusion. http://www.eco-action.org/dt/pigeon.html Again, I enjoyed your Looney information. Best regards, Glenn Looney (and Cherokee descendant) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Part of Jim's original message: Morgan Harbin Looney was written up by Varley Graves in VIGNETTES OF HISTORY on December 15, 1977 in the Fayette GA newspaper. ..... near was a pigeon-roost where the migration of the passenger pigeon took place in the autumn of each year. At one time about 150 years ago this bird was the most numerous of any in all of North America. The birds came for the nuts and acorns, but when the forest were cut, the nuts disappeared and so the birds became extinct. The last one died in the Cincinnati Zoo Sept. 1, 1914.