Nita, The Holder genealogical family is participating in the DNA Project and it is turning out to be a tremendous tool. It has mainly verified sound research and helped to point the way in a number of questionable areas. However, we did have one big hiccup. The lab returned results of a non-match on one sample where we felt we absolutely knew the line was a match. This created quite a commotion until one of the participants contacted the lab an requested a review. The lab quickly responded that a "human error" in handling the samples had occurred. Someone had simply placed a tray in the wrong slot and had created a problem with 4 or 5 different results. They quickly fixed the problem, we received the expected results, an apology, and assurances that the science was not faulty, just human handling. You might pass this on to the Harbisons unless they have already requested a technical review. Other than this one glitch the Project is so successful we are planning a Holder DNA summit to review our findings collectively. Carl Holder -------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: <N5BRY@aol.com> To: <LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 9:40 AM Subject: [LOONEY-L] Results from DNA genealogy research > > Any of you involved in DNA projects to help pin down your ancestors? > > Have been corresponding with a Harbison/Looney researcher for several years. > > Her husband, the Harbison, turned out to not be a Harbison at all and some > of the other researchers in this ancestral line are devastated and uncertain > where to look now. > > SO - if you are doing genealogy DNA research, better be prepared for > undesired, unexpected results. > > Her years of early (1700's) Harbison research are wasted for her but perhaps > not for others. > > Nita > > > > ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== > Was "John" Robert's father? or brother? Was Robert's wife Elizabeth? Was > she a Stover or Llewellen? Was John's wife also a Llewellen (did sisters > marry brothers?)? How many of Robert's siblings and neices/nephews came > to America, too? Help us solve these mysteries today on the LOONEY list. > >

Any of you involved in DNA projects to help pin down your ancestors? Have been corresponding with a Harbison/Looney researcher for several years. Her husband, the Harbison, turned out to not be a Harbison at all and some of the other researchers in this ancestral line are devastated and uncertain where to look now. SO - if you are doing genealogy DNA research, better be prepared for undesired, unexpected results. Her years of early (1700's) Harbison research are wasted for her but perhaps not for others. Nita

My great grandfather was George Washington Looney. I have very little information on him. Would like to learn more if anyone sees anything here that looks familiar. He married Janie Lowe. They had a son, Clyde Yancy Looney, born in 1907 and died 1973. Clyde married Ethel Mintie Sloan. Clyde also has a brother named Ted Looney (and I think other brothers and sisters). Clyde and Ethel had two sons. My father was Wilburn Dean Looney and is now deceased. Caryn

Hey Tim... to start off, don't pay any attention to misspelling,, or is it mysspeling, whatever! My name is Don Rawlins; Age 73; I, like you, come out of the early Robert,,,via Michael and Michael, Jr. Most of "us" stayed in the south: TN, GA, AL. VA, NC and environs. My interest in writing you is that one of my sons, almost age 36, married into a familly of WAALI. Mr. Waali had married into a family of HUNTs, all from around Poulsbo and down toward Belfair, Tahuya, where they have a "cabin" nearby. We(wife and myself) have been there five or six times and love Poulsbo especially. Didn't know if your family elders might have been there for a while and may know of the Hunts or Waalis. Shake those trees a little and see of any mutual friends are hanging out around there. Have a good holiday season. Don

--part1_2b.6573295d.2ebd9940_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_2b.6573295d.2ebd9940_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <tim.turner@eds.com> Received: from rly-xl04.mx.aol.com (rly-xl04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.73]) by air-xl04.mail.aol.com (v103.7) with ESMTP id MAILINXL44-5ce418bcd3955; Fri, 05 Nov 2004 13:58:24 -0500 Received: from ahmler5.mail.eds.com (ahmler5.mail.eds.com [192.85.154.70]) by rly-xl04.mx.aol.com (v103.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXL46-5ce418bcd3955; Fri, 05 Nov 2004 13:58:01 -0500 Received: from ahmlir5.mail.eds.com (ahmlir5-2.mail.eds.com [192.85.154.135]) by ahmler5.mail.eds.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iA5Iw0nG025657 for <patldavis@aol.com>; Fri, 5 Nov 2004 13:58:01 -0500 Received: from ahmlir5.mail.eds.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ahmlir5.mail.eds.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iA5IvqSr026148 for <patldavis@aol.com>; Fri, 5 Nov 2004 13:57:52 -0500 Received: from USAHM002.amer.corp.eds.com ([207.37.138.139]) by ahmlir5.mail.eds.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iA5Ivq7Q026137 for <patldavis@aol.com>; Fri, 5 Nov 2004 13:57:52 -0500 Received: by USAHM002.amer.corp.eds.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id <W22ZD3YY>; Fri, 5 Nov 2004 13:57:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3F6273BBC56E2B48A6050847F1E3B3F301027367@ussam203.exwe01.exch.eds.com> From: "Turner, Tim" <tim.turner@eds.com> To: "'patldavis@aol.com'" <patldavis@aol.com>, "'eglooney@airmail.net'" <eglooney@airmail.net> Subject: Luna Cousin Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 13:57:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain X-AOL-IP: 192.85.154.70 Hi Pat and Ed, My oldest daughter is in kindergarten this year. So, I am doing a little family tree project for her Thanksgiving "homework". I ran across both of your names and email addresses at Larry and Liz Johnson's website. So, I thought that I would identify myself as a Looney descendant. First, here is a little about myself. My name is Tim Turner. I am 43 years old. I live in Poulsbo, Washington, which is just west of Seattle. My wife's name is Michelle. We have three children: Madeline (5), Ross (3) and Megan (1). And...I am a 9th generation descendant of John and Llewellen Looney! It will probably be a big clue to tell you that I was born and raised in Lewisburg, Tennessee. (Marshall County) Here is the lineage: 1) Robert - came to America (settled in Virginia) 2) Peter - first born in America (Philadelphia), captured by Indians 3) Peter - dad died when infant, signed Cumberland Compact, eventually moved to what became Marshall County in 1836 4) Peter - born in pre-Tennessee in 1788 5) Peter - born in 1828, called "Whistling Pete" 6) Willis Lively Luna - born in 1856, more on my great-grandfather below 7) Flossie Claire (Luna) Holly - born in 1894, more on my grandmother below 8) Ada Lurline (Holly) Turner - born in 1920, still living in Lewisburg 9) Timothy Alan Turner - born in 1961, and that's me!! Willis Lively Luna, my great-grandfather has an interesting story. Here is the sketchy version that I just learned a few minutes ago. I am sure that more details could be produced. Apparently, Willis' first wife, Elizabeth Madden, had a boy friend that shot Willis in the wrist. At the time Willis and Elizabeth had an 8 year old boy, Willis Andrew. I believe the family was living in Texas at the time. (Note that his brother Manly also settled out there.) Well, after this incident Willis moved back to Tennessee, where he eventually married Ada Geneva Gant and had 9 children. Flossie Claire Luna married Thomas Cleophas Holly. "Mama Holly" was the only grandparent alive when I was born. Her husband died 3 months before my birth. Mama Holly died when I was 13 years old. I mentioned Manly Luna (another son of "Whistling Pete") above. Mom told me that she has remained in contact with Thelma Luna, who married Manly's son Hal. She remains alive today at the age of 103. I remember visiting her in Greenville, Texas back in the 1970s. Well, I am enjoying perusing all of the information that others have worked so hard to preserve. Maddie's little project will involve dressing up a paper doll in cloths from the ancestor's homeland. I will probably do something from the Isle of Man. Sign me up for the Looney email distribution list. Have a great day! Tim Turner --part1_2b.6573295d.2ebd9940_boundary--

This was in the Springfield, MO News-Leader newspaper. Does anyone know from which Looney line he descends from? His grandfather, great-grandfather?? I am related to the Looneys from Walnut Grove, MO, but I don't know exactly where he fits, but think he might be from the Robert Looney Jr/ Benjamin Looney/Isom Looney/Allen Looney line. Orville Allen Looney Orville Allen Looney, 89, of Arlington, Texas, formerly of Walnut Grove, passed away Friday morning at 4:45 a.m. in Pat's Care Home following an extended illness. He was born in Walnut Grove, the son of Orville A. and Lillie B. Looney, growing up in the Walnut Grove area, graduating from Walnut Grove High School in 1932. He was affiliated with the Baptist Church. He was an Army veteran of World War II, and retired from the Army-Air Force Exchange Service as Director of Training. Traveling extensively throughout the world, he lived in Germany, New York, and for several years in Hawaii. He is survived by one sister, Marjorie Fite of Tulsa, Okla.; caregivers, Jon and Kim Cannon of Alvaredo, Texas; and many extended friends he felt were as family. Graveside services will be Sunday, Oct. 10, 2004, at 2 p.m. in Greene Lawn Cemetery, Walnut Grove, with Rev. Lon Killingsworth officiating. Interment will follow. Arrangements are under the direction of Wilson Brim-Daniel Funeral Home, Walnut Grove, Mo. Friends may call at the Walnut Grove chapel after 10:30 a.m. on Sunday, prior to services. Published 10/09/04

Don't remember who suggested the movie but I rented it today from Blockbuster....not one of the best movies I've seen...but the scenery was wonderful. THANKS FOR THE SUGGESTION! Happy Huntin' Ginny Ayers Spann <>< VASPANN@aol.com RESEARCHING: Ayers, Bennett, Byrom, Fowler, Green, Gross, Hammontree, Kyle, Ladd, Looney, Seabolt & Stone

Barbara: Is HUTTON your maiden name? I also research the HUTTON family. Mine were in Washington Co VA back in the 1700s. Not for sure where they lived before that--probably in PA. My line left VA and ended up in MO. Dee Mathews Independence MO

Dear Barbara, I missed seeing the movie on TV but it reminded me that I have it in my collection and will look at it tonight. You gave a good review and thank you. Like you, I have wished that I could have visited the Isle of Man, but I think it is too late for me. I have enjoyed all the reports from others, and we published in our book Jack Hockett's visit and Mary Lee and Paul Murray's visit. Many have given reports on TV and shared with us. Betty and Paul Bingham visited us one time and when they went back to Colorado Mary Ann Looney had exciting news for them. A diary had been found, made by M. D. Looney of Chicago in the summer of 1927. He had made a trip to the Isle of Man, and they sent me the diary. Like so many, they would like to know who Robert Looney's p! arents were. Elizabeth Looney sent me a letter that a researcher on the Isle of Man had written to her. She told Elizabeth she would take no more money from her because she could not find what she wanted. Of course, that was finding the parents of Robert Looney. On our website you can see some typical writings from the Isle of Man. They are very hard to read from the original and time consuming . This movie gives us a chance to just enjoy it all. I didn't mean to write so much, but it is a topic I love to talk about. Thanks Barbara for alerting us to this movie. Madge Looney Crane

Barbara Thompson <barbarahthompson@yahoo.com> wrote : I have visited the Isle of Man and have many pics if you are interested. Mary Lee Murray marylee@elkhart.net > "Waking Ned Devine" > > I just noticed that in less than an hour on TV the "WB" channel they are > showing a movie that I think all my Looney relatives would enjoy. > > My ancestor, Robert Looney was from the Isle of Man. If like me, you always > wanted to visit the Isle of Man, but will probably never get to see it; don’t > miss seeing the movie, Waking Ned Devine. A friend recommended thatI see it, > and I loved it. > > Waking Ned Devine is beautiful; it is both funny and fun. The vistas are > grand, and the music is a delightful mix of traditional instruments. All > location shooting was done on the Isle of Man. > > Waking Ned Devine was filmed 6 years ago, if you don't see it on TV, you can > rent it. > > Your cousin, Barbara Hutton Thompson, > > Robert Looney, Absalom Looney, Benjamin Looney, Margaret Looney, > > John Commodore Perry Looney, Samuel Leander Looney, > > Ella Susan Looney, Thomas B. Hutton > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== > This list is dedicated to the search for ancestors of LOONEY, LUNNEY, > LUNA (Scotch-Irish), LEENEY and variations, all of which originated in > County Cork, Ireland. Please refer other researchers to our list.

Appears to be on the Fox Cahnnel, rather than WB. Thanks for the tip, Barbara Barbara Thompson wrote: >"Waking Ned Devine" > >I just noticed that in less than an hour on TV the "WB" channel they are showing a movie that I think all my Looney relatives would enjoy. > >My ancestor, Robert Looney was from the Isle of Man. If like me, you always wanted to visit the Isle of Man, but will probably never get to see it; don't miss seeing the movie, Waking Ned Devine. A friend recommended thatI see it, and I loved it. > >Waking Ned Devine is beautiful; it is both funny and fun. The vistas are grand, and the music is a delightful mix of traditional instruments. All location shooting was done on the Isle of Man. > >Waking Ned Devine was filmed 6 years ago, if you don't see it on TV, you can rent it. > >Your cousin, Barbara Hutton Thompson, > >Robert Looney, Absalom Looney, Benjamin Looney, Margaret Looney, > > John Commodore Perry Looney, Samuel Leander Looney, > > Ella Susan Looney, Thomas B. Hutton > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > > >==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== >This list is dedicated to the search for ancestors of LOONEY, LUNNEY, >LUNA (Scotch-Irish), LEENEY and variations, all of which originated in >County Cork, Ireland. Please refer other researchers to our list. > > > >

"Waking Ned Devine" I just noticed that in less than an hour on TV the "WB" channel they are showing a movie that I think all my Looney relatives would enjoy. My ancestor, Robert Looney was from the Isle of Man. If like me, you always wanted to visit the Isle of Man, but will probably never get to see it; don�t miss seeing the movie, Waking Ned Devine. A friend recommended thatI see it, and I loved it. Waking Ned Devine is beautiful; it is both funny and fun. The vistas are grand, and the music is a delightful mix of traditional instruments. All location shooting was done on the Isle of Man. Waking Ned Devine was filmed 6 years ago, if you don't see it on TV, you can rent it. Your cousin, Barbara Hutton Thompson, Robert Looney, Absalom Looney, Benjamin Looney, Margaret Looney, John Commodore Perry Looney, Samuel Leander Looney, Ella Susan Looney, Thomas B. Hutton __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

If you decide and get permission to update the Peter Luna book, I would be more than happy to help. Rhonda Shoemaker ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

LARRY, WHAT A TREASURE THAT WOULD BE! WE LOOK FORWARD TO IT. CLAUDIA

Larry: I'm looking forward to the day you announce you have them ready. Maybe you should do it in installments. I'm also looking forward to the next Crane book. We are so fortunate to have such talented and sharing Looney cousins. Larry wrote: I'm looking forward to retirement later this year so I can begin working on writing that book or books. Larry Johnson Keller, Texas

HOORAY! LARRY!!! If I can help - - count me in! Ginny Ayers Spann <>< VASPANN@aol.com RESEARCHING: Ayers, Bennett, Byrom, Fowler, Green, Gross, Hammontree, Kyle, Ladd, Looney, Seabolt & Stone

Hey Larry, Ginny just offered to help.........maybe she can be your proof reader, Liz doesn't have time, so take Ginny's offer & run with it. (make her give you "scouts honor" first) :-) Ur Cuz

Just got in on the tail end - as usual - what is Larry going to do???? Ginny Ayers Spann <>< VASPANN@aol.com RESEARCHING: Ayers, Bennett, Byrom, Fowler, Green, Gross, Hammontree, Kyle, Ladd, Looney, Seabolt & Stone

Larry - This is fabulous news! I look forward to these books as I know Elizabeth was very thorough. Sara On 17 Aug 2004 at 1:35, Larry Johnson wrote: > Elizabeth Looney loved communicating and researching the various Looney > lines. When she sent out letters inquiring about the Looney relations, she > always said that she would write a book on the Looney family. She spent her > life collecting everything that she could and I think she really enjoyed the > socializing that these communications back and forth brought to her. > Elizabeth wrote a short piece on her family line, but never quite got around > to stopping the collection and sharing of information so she could write > that book she always spoke of. > > Do not fear, Elizabeth's files are not lost. She gave them to me before she > died under the condition that I would write a book on the Robert Looney Jr. > line and give her credit for collecting all this information. Needless to > say, with over 40 file boxes full of her files and family documents, there > is more than enough data to write several books on the Looney family. > > I'm looking forward to retirement later this year so I can begin working on > writing that book or books. > > Larry Johnson > Keller, Texas > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <DClaudiaL@aol.com> > To: <LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 1:51 PM > Subject: Re: [LOONEY-L] Re:Hello cousins > > > > Bob, > > I don't know who Will and Sue were. Wish I did, but I have always > > assumed (which we shouldn't do) that they were siblings of F.B. > > Yes, I did know an Ellen Looney very well. If it is the same one, > she > > was married to Ben Looney, and I don't know where he fits in, but he was a > > cousin of my dad's and not a 1st cousin. They lived in Walters, Okla, > until Ben > > died with cancer, and then Ellen moved to Lawton. Do you know when she > > visited your mother? My brother and I were kids when we went to Walters > to visit > > Ellen and Ben, and she probably would have visited Texas or any relatives > after > > Ben died. She lived in Lawton until she died (I'm not sure when) but she > was > > still living in 1962 when I moved to Alabama. > > I doubt if Elizabeth Looney ever published her research. She was > very > > interested in helping others and in tying all the lines together. This > line > > was abuzz when she was dying because everyone knew her. Someone on this > line > > will know the answer to that. > > > > Till later, Claudia > > > > > > ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== > > Do the Manx LOONEY/LLEWNIEs connect to the Irish LOONEY/O'LOONEYs? > > Did the name originate in County Cork in 148 AD with the marriage of > > Con of a Hundred Battles (High King of Ireland in 158 AD) to the > > daughter of Olollar Ollium, King of Munster? Does it have TWO origins? > > > > > ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== > Please keep the topic related to LOONEY (and variants) family history. > Other topics should be taken off-line (mail them directly). Also, don't > post "ME TOO" or "GO AHEAD" messages to the list. Send them directly. > Note: The default "Reply To:" for this list is the list, not the sender. > > Every soul is a melody which needs renewing. -- Stephan Mallarme

Knew you had the material but wasn't certain you had the time. Good for you, Larry. Nita