I am looking for information on Catherine J Looney who married Alfred Allen Maness in Greene Co., Tn. Catherine was born about 1861. Thanks Frances

These are the TENTATIVE funeral arrangements for Carl Jones: Carl will be laid out on Monday, June 20, 2005 at the Love-Cantrell-Cope Funeral Home in Smithville, TN. On Tuesday June 21, 2005, his body will be taken to the McMinnville Funeral Home in McMinnville, TN (not Love-Cantrell-Cope, which has location in McMinnville). Funeral services will be held on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 from the funeral home. Burial will be at DeKalb Memorial Gardens in Smithville, TN. If you could please take a moment, visit his memorial: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=11199757 ___________________________________________________________________ Get Juno Platinum for as low as $6.95/month! Unlimited Internet Access with 250MB of Email Storage. Visit http://www.juno.com/bestoffer to sign up today!

Carl Almon Jones of McMinnvile, TN passed away on Saturady, June 18, 2005 at the VA Hospital in Murfreesburo, TN. He was 82. Carl was the son of the late Verby Sterling Jones and Beatrice Ellen Fisher. He was the grandson of Perry Claudie Jones and Nora Tennessee Luna. He is survived by his wife, Eula Deane West Jones, and children Douglas, Regina Jennins, Tonya Kell, and son Terry; brother Jerry; sisters Oleda Crain, Verblynn Maxson, Margie Mason and Billie Shoemaker. He was preceeded in death by two brothers, Clayton and Joe Alfred, and two sisters, Georgia Farley and Patricia Owenby. Arrangements to be announced. Rhonda Shoemaker niece ___________________________________________________________________ Get Juno Platinum for as low as $6.95/month! Unlimited Internet Access with 250MB of Email Storage. Visit http://www.juno.com/bestoffer to sign up today!

I have this, and a couple of other items about JCP Looney. Including some info from Randolph County & Carroll County, Arkansas, and some census info that appears to show Andrew J Looney (son of JCP Looney) eventually wound up in California. My line is from Robert (1), Absalom (2), Michael (3), William (4) ... Regards, ///Steve Looney/// ============================================= Passages from the Walker Co, GA Heritage Book ============================================= #767 Perry LOONEY John Commadore Perry LOONEY was in Walker Co in 1845 when he married Mary Ann JESTER, daughter of Nathan and Anny JESTER. Anny Jester was an Indian maiden born in that part of the Cherokee Nation later to become Gwinnett County. Perry was a descendant of Robert LOONEY who was born on the Isle of Man, England circa 1695. Robert and wife Elizabeth, with seven sons and two daughters, immigrated to the Colonies circa 1733 and in 1742 obtained a land patent in Augusta County, Virginia. They added six more sons to their family, four of whom fought in the Revolutionary War attaining ranks of Colonel and Major. Many of Robert's descendants became lawmen, sheriffs, Justices of the Peace, Judges, and attorneys. Perry and Polly Looney included in their household Perry's mother, Margaret Looney, Polly's brother Samuel Jester and, later, the widowed Anny Jester and her two spinster daughters, Nancy E. and Susannah. Perry and his mother joined the Shiloh Baptist Church by letter one Sunday in August, 1851. During the Civil War Perry, a blacksmith, was shoeing a horse belonging to the occupying Federal army when one of the soldiers made a disparaging remark about Perry's Indian wife. Ten-year-old Samuel promptly hit the soldier in the head with a hammer. Unfortunately, the soldier died and Perry spend the remaining months of the War in the army prison. Descendants of Samuel still have the ill-fated hammer. After the War Perry's neighbors did not take kindly to his Indian wife and called him "squaw man." Finally, to escape the harrassment, Perry moved his family to Carroll County, Arkansas, in 1773. ///note: this date should be 1873???-csl/// Descendants of Perry and Mary Ann may still be found in Arkansas, Washington, and Texas. Children of Perry and Mary Ann Looney were: 1) Elizabeth, 2) John L. married Martha Brock, 3) Francis married Elizabeth Kesterson, 4) Samuel Leander married Avis Boggs, 5) Nancy A. married Bail, 6) Susannah, (married William Wiley Neal in Carroll Co AR) 7) Frances Young 8) Andrew J. unmarried, 9) Robert L. unmarried 10) James unmarried. ---credit to Dr. Norma Tompkins ============================================= #141 John BROCK (exerpt) ...To John and Lucinda (BROCK) were born five children, 1) Roland Thomas 2) Rebecca Clenda Jane ... 3) John W 4) Mary A. Clementine ... 5) Martha Elenda, born on April 12, 1850,married JOHN LOONEY. Their children were Mary Lucinda Paralee, Susannah Caldonia, Rosetta J. ---credit to Viola Smith ============================================= #142 Lucinda BROCK (exerpt) ... As a young bride, Lucinda came to Walker County in 1836 with her husband John BROCK. They traveled from Habersham with her parents, Roland KINSEY and Margaret Piethill KINSEY, the Kinsey children, and several young Brock males, brothers and cousins of John. This band of travelers settled first in log cabins built and left by the recently departed Cherokee, near a knoll that had been an Indian burial ground (in Armuchee Valley). ... John died in 1855 leaving four teenagers and the five-year-old Martha. ... During the War years, after sons Roland Thomas and John W. had been conscripted into the Confederate Army, Lucinda and her two young daughters, Mary and Martha, made a crop of corn only to have it harvested by the Federal Army. Sixteen-year-old Martha pleaded with General Sherman's men to spare the crop, later saying, "I worked in the field that year and helped make that corn. I hoed every bit of it. We were left without anything on earth to eat. I worked hard to make it." ...Lucinda spent the last nine months of War at Tunnel Hill where her daughter, Mary Clementine, married a Federal Soldier. After the surrender, Lucinda and family returned to Villanow to live near daughter Rebecca Cannamore/Kennemere and widowed daughter-in-law Hannah CATES BROCK (wife of Roland Thomas). ...Martha married John L. LOONEY but after three short years, John "hitched up the wagon to go to town and never came back." Mary's husband, Asa Smith, left about the same time. ... Lucinda spent the remaining years of her life with Martha Elenda Looney and her three daughters, Paralee, Caladonia and Rosetta. Together the four widows--Lucinda, Hannah, Mary and Martha-- managed to keep their families together during the reconstruction period by living on the lad that Roland KINSEY had won in the land lottery. Lucinda died in 1882 and was buried on the tree- shaded knoll overlooking the Indian village which had been her first home as a young bride. ---credit to Dr. Norma Tompkins ============================================= > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Re: [LOONEY-L] Occupations/social class for Absalom Looney and son > benjamin > From: > "Larry W Johnson" <johnsonl@flash.net> > Date: > Thu, 5 May 2005 22:12:47 -0500 > To: > LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com > > To: > LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com > > > Kathy, > > Another link you may find useful is the links on my web site to the > Looney family manuscripts of Leroy Tilton. These were originally > written back in the early 1960s after many years of research. Check > out the part for Absalom Looney. It has a name index that you may > find useful. > http://home.flash.net/~johnsonl/index1.htm > > There are several other web sites out there that specialize in Looney > family history. They are listed at the bottom of this message and > should show up in your email as html links. Check them out, I think > you will find more of what you are looking for. > > Also, something that Miss Elizabeth Looney of Washington, D.C. told me > several years ago, "The Looney family on the early frontiers > apparently didn't have much to do except go to church, read the bible > and have children. They had lots of children and they gave them all > bible names." > > > Good luck with writing your paper. > > Larry > Grapevine, TX > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy" <3littleangels@comcast.net> > To: <LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 10:58 PM > Subject: RE: [LOONEY-L] Occupations/social class for Absalom Looney > and son benjamin > > >> Thank you Karen! I really appreciate the link and the time you took to >> search for it. >> >> Kathy >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Karen Ray [mailto:karenray@1starnet.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 9:13 AM >> To: LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [LOONEY-L] Occupations/social class for Absalom Looney and >> son benjamin >> >> >> Kathy: >> >> I ran across a rundown on the family. . .great info on Absalom, the >> name, >> his father, Ab's Valley, etc. Here is the link: >> >> http://thelibrary.springfield.missouri.org/lochist/periodicals/ozarkswat >> ch/ow504l.htm >> >> >> At 12:24 AM 5/4/2005 -0400, you wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I am researching the Looney/Luney family tree for a college class. I >> >> was >> >>> wondering if any of the researchers had run into personal information >> >> on >> >>> any of the following >>> >>> Absalom Looney, his son Benjamin Looney, his daughter Margaret Looney >>> and her son, John Commodore Perry Looney >>> >>> Personal information can include name origins, changes and patterns, >>> social class and occupation, religious preferences, education patterns >>> and educational patterns. I am a descendent of John Perry Looney. >>> >>> Thank you for any information >>> >>> Kathy >>> >>> >>> ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== >>> This list is dedicated to the search for ancestors of LOONEY, LUNNEY, >>> LUNA (Scotch-Irish), LEENEY and variations, all of which originated in >>> County Cork, Ireland. Please refer other researchers to our list. >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== >> See our HomePages at >> http://Members.AOL.Com/jsully7 (Descendants of Robert Lunney) or >> http://www.Flash.Net/~johnsonl (Includes Leroy W. Tilton's work) or >> http://Welcome.to/TheLooneyFamily (Elsie Stroud's Works) or >> http://www.mindspring.com/~mozark (William(4) and NE AR & SE MO >> Looneys) >> >> >> ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== >> If you find a web page somewhere listing Manx, Irish or Scotch surnames >> and they don't include LOONEY/LUNA/etc., send them a note to let them >> know we're around. The more advertising we have, the more help we get. >> >>

Kathy, Another link you may find useful is the links on my web site to the Looney family manuscripts of Leroy Tilton. These were originally written back in the early 1960s after many years of research. Check out the part for Absalom Looney. It has a name index that you may find useful. http://home.flash.net/~johnsonl/index1.htm There are several other web sites out there that specialize in Looney family history. They are listed at the bottom of this message and should show up in your email as html links. Check them out, I think you will find more of what you are looking for. Also, something that Miss Elizabeth Looney of Washington, D.C. told me several years ago, "The Looney family on the early frontiers apparently didn't have much to do except go to church, read the bible and have children. They had lots of children and they gave them all bible names." Good luck with writing your paper. Larry Grapevine, TX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy" <3littleangels@comcast.net> To: <LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 10:58 PM Subject: RE: [LOONEY-L] Occupations/social class for Absalom Looney and son benjamin > Thank you Karen! I really appreciate the link and the time you took to > search for it. > > Kathy > > -----Original Message----- > From: Karen Ray [mailto:karenray@1starnet.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 9:13 AM > To: LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LOONEY-L] Occupations/social class for Absalom Looney and > son benjamin > > > Kathy: > > I ran across a rundown on the family. . .great info on Absalom, the > name, > his father, Ab's Valley, etc. Here is the link: > > http://thelibrary.springfield.missouri.org/lochist/periodicals/ozarkswat > ch/ow504l.htm > > > At 12:24 AM 5/4/2005 -0400, you wrote: >>Hello, >> >>I am researching the Looney/Luney family tree for a college class. I > was >>wondering if any of the researchers had run into personal information > on >>any of the following >> >>Absalom Looney, his son Benjamin Looney, his daughter Margaret Looney >>and her son, John Commodore Perry Looney >> >>Personal information can include name origins, changes and patterns, >>social class and occupation, religious preferences, education patterns >>and educational patterns. I am a descendent of John Perry Looney. >> >>Thank you for any information >> >>Kathy >> >> >>==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== >>This list is dedicated to the search for ancestors of LOONEY, LUNNEY, >>LUNA (Scotch-Irish), LEENEY and variations, all of which originated in >>County Cork, Ireland. Please refer other researchers to our list. > > > > > ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== > See our HomePages at > http://Members.AOL.Com/jsully7 (Descendants of Robert Lunney) or > http://www.Flash.Net/~johnsonl (Includes Leroy W. Tilton's work) or > http://Welcome.to/TheLooneyFamily (Elsie Stroud's Works) or > http://www.mindspring.com/~mozark (William(4) and NE AR & SE MO > Looneys) > > > ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== > If you find a web page somewhere listing Manx, Irish or Scotch surnames > and they don't include LOONEY/LUNA/etc., send them a note to let them > know we're around. The more advertising we have, the more help we get. > >

Thank you Karen! I really appreciate the link and the time you took to search for it. Kathy -----Original Message----- From: Karen Ray [mailto:karenray@1starnet.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 9:13 AM To: LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LOONEY-L] Occupations/social class for Absalom Looney and son benjamin Kathy: I ran across a rundown on the family. . .great info on Absalom, the name, his father, Ab's Valley, etc. Here is the link: http://thelibrary.springfield.missouri.org/lochist/periodicals/ozarkswat ch/ow504l.htm At 12:24 AM 5/4/2005 -0400, you wrote: >Hello, > >I am researching the Looney/Luney family tree for a college class. I was >wondering if any of the researchers had run into personal information on >any of the following > >Absalom Looney, his son Benjamin Looney, his daughter Margaret Looney >and her son, John Commodore Perry Looney > >Personal information can include name origins, changes and patterns, >social class and occupation, religious preferences, education patterns >and educational patterns. I am a descendent of John Perry Looney. > >Thank you for any information > >Kathy > > >==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== >This list is dedicated to the search for ancestors of LOONEY, LUNNEY, >LUNA (Scotch-Irish), LEENEY and variations, all of which originated in >County Cork, Ireland. Please refer other researchers to our list. ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== See our HomePages at http://Members.AOL.Com/jsully7 (Descendants of Robert Lunney) or http://www.Flash.Net/~johnsonl (Includes Leroy W. Tilton's work) or http://Welcome.to/TheLooneyFamily (Elsie Stroud's Works) or http://www.mindspring.com/~mozark (William(4) and NE AR & SE MO Looneys)

Thanks, I had not thought of looking at the census for this information. You would think I would have, since I got a lot of the family lines off census info,, thanks! Kathy -----Original Message----- From: Amelia O. Debusman [mailto:amelia@iglou.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:47 AM To: LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LOONEY-L] Occupations/social class for Absalom Looney and son benjamin Have you looked at the census with this in mind? Occupation, education and property are there for some years. Amelia At 12:24 AM 5/4/2005, you wrote: >Hello, > >I am researching the Looney/Luney family tree for a college class. I was >wondering if any of the researchers had run into personal information on >any of the following > >Absalom Looney, his son Benjamin Looney, his daughter Margaret Looney >and her son, John Commodore Perry Looney > >Personal information can include name origins, changes and patterns, >social class and occupation, religious preferences, education patterns >and educational patterns. I am a descendent of John Perry Looney. > >Thank you for any information > >Kathy > > >==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== >This list is dedicated to the search for ancestors of LOONEY, LUNNEY, >LUNA (Scotch-Irish), LEENEY and variations, all of which originated in >County Cork, Ireland. Please refer other researchers to our list. ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== If you're having problems, the listowners can be contacted via E-Mail at EGLooney@USA.Net (Ed); JSully7@AOL.Com (Sully) or our beloved listmistress, Pat Davis at PatLDavis@AOL.Com

Have you looked at the census with this in mind? Occupation, education and property are there for some years. Amelia At 12:24 AM 5/4/2005, you wrote: >Hello, > >I am researching the Looney/Luney family tree for a college class. I was >wondering if any of the researchers had run into personal information on >any of the following > >Absalom Looney, his son Benjamin Looney, his daughter Margaret Looney >and her son, John Commodore Perry Looney > >Personal information can include name origins, changes and patterns, >social class and occupation, religious preferences, education patterns >and educational patterns. I am a descendent of John Perry Looney. > >Thank you for any information > >Kathy > > >==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== >This list is dedicated to the search for ancestors of LOONEY, LUNNEY, >LUNA (Scotch-Irish), LEENEY and variations, all of which originated in >County Cork, Ireland. Please refer other researchers to our list.

Kathy: I ran across a rundown on the family. . .great info on Absalom, the name, his father, Ab's Valley, etc. Here is the link: http://thelibrary.springfield.missouri.org/lochist/periodicals/ozarkswatch/ow504l.htm At 12:24 AM 5/4/2005 -0400, you wrote: >Hello, > >I am researching the Looney/Luney family tree for a college class. I was >wondering if any of the researchers had run into personal information on >any of the following > >Absalom Looney, his son Benjamin Looney, his daughter Margaret Looney >and her son, John Commodore Perry Looney > >Personal information can include name origins, changes and patterns, >social class and occupation, religious preferences, education patterns >and educational patterns. I am a descendent of John Perry Looney. > >Thank you for any information > >Kathy > > >==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== >This list is dedicated to the search for ancestors of LOONEY, LUNNEY, >LUNA (Scotch-Irish), LEENEY and variations, all of which originated in >County Cork, Ireland. Please refer other researchers to our list.

Hello, I am researching the Looney/Luney family tree for a college class. I was wondering if any of the researchers had run into personal information on any of the following Absalom Looney, his son Benjamin Looney, his daughter Margaret Looney and her son, John Commodore Perry Looney Personal information can include name origins, changes and patterns, social class and occupation, religious preferences, education patterns and educational patterns. I am a descendent of John Perry Looney. Thank you for any information Kathy

Sorry, I was a little quick on the "send" trigger on that last response. I noticed the archives are set up into years. The list has been slow for the past couple years, but some of those years around 1999 to 2001 or 2 were really active on the list. Also . . .talking off the top of my head here, but someone will probably chime in that has info on it. . . if you don't know about Ab's Valley, you might run a search on that. Not sure if it is your Absalom, but probably so. Karen At 12:24 AM 5/4/2005 -0400, you wrote: >Hello, > >I am researching the Looney/Luney family tree for a college class. I was >wondering if any of the researchers had run into personal information on >any of the following > >Absalom Looney, his son Benjamin Looney, his daughter Margaret Looney >and her son, John Commodore Perry Looney > >Personal information can include name origins, changes and patterns, >social class and occupation, religious preferences, education patterns >and educational patterns. I am a descendent of John Perry Looney. > >Thank you for any information > >Kathy > > >==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== >This list is dedicated to the search for ancestors of LOONEY, LUNNEY, >LUNA (Scotch-Irish), LEENEY and variations, all of which originated in >County Cork, Ireland. Please refer other researchers to our list.

Kathy: That isn't my line, but I know there are members of that branch of the family that have posted before. Try searching the Looney List Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/l/looney.html Karen Ray At 12:24 AM 5/4/2005 -0400, you wrote: >Hello, > >I am researching the Looney/Luney family tree for a college class. I was >wondering if any of the researchers had run into personal information on >any of the following > >Absalom Looney, his son Benjamin Looney, his daughter Margaret Looney >and her son, John Commodore Perry Looney > >Personal information can include name origins, changes and patterns, >social class and occupation, religious preferences, education patterns >and educational patterns. I am a descendent of John Perry Looney. > >Thank you for any information > >Kathy > > >==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== >This list is dedicated to the search for ancestors of LOONEY, LUNNEY, >LUNA (Scotch-Irish), LEENEY and variations, all of which originated in >County Cork, Ireland. Please refer other researchers to our list.

Larry, This is very well written & oh so true. Isn't it a suprise, often even to ourselves, what a few years of maturity & life experiences can do to our thinking about this subject of war ? Although I found in my research that some of my ancestors went from north Knox & Union County, Tennessee up thru Cumberland Gap to Kentucky to enlist in the Union Army, I clearly remember comments while growing up back in east Tennessee about those 'damn yankees'; and stories of hardship, hunger, & privatation keep that history & that feeling alive even today. Of course, I also remember black people sitting in the back of the bus and 'white only' water fountains in Knoxville during that period.... So I guess we have to accept that some of our ancestors suffered so terribly from that inferno that forgiveness may never be coming from some descendants, as similar to Scarlett O'Hara in 'Gone With the Wind' (after Sherman's march) some still harbor a steely determination to even the score in some way. Fortunately for our generation, that feeling now is expressed non-violently and more constructively through the arena of politics & states' rights. Dennis In a message dated 4/23/2005 3:38:02 AM Mountain Standard Time, johnsonl@flash.net writes: > Like many I grew up supporting one side in the Civil War over the other. > In > my case I sided with the CSA. In later years after learning that there was > nothing civil about the Civil War and what an absolute mistake it was for > father to be fighting son, brother to be fighting brother, etc., I figured > out the fact that there is no glory in killing or in war. I have accepted > the fact that neither side was justified or glorified by it. I no longer > support one side over the other. I view the Civil War as a mistake and a > tragedy because it divided America and family and it cost us dearly, both in > > the destruction to our country and in the loss of family. North or South, I > > no longer take sides, I view them all as being Americans who got caught up > in the tragedy of war. >

There are others out there who are possibly in for the big surprise too. A few years back I was looking at some of my Looney relations that lived in northern Alabama when the Civil War broke out. Since some served in the 1st Alabama Regiment, I and apparently others assumed that they fought on the side of the South just because it was an Alabama unit. I even saw some papers that some of this relations descendants put together showing the symbols of the South (CSA). Before I learned otherwise, I even tried to correct someone from the Lawrence County Historical Commission about an apparent error concerning this individuals Civil War service. As it turns out, the 1st Alabama was a unit that fought for the north (USA). This all relates to the family of Moses and Mary (Guest) Looney who lived in northern Alabama. You have probably heard of the "Incident at Looney's Tavern" which occurred as a direct result of the Civil War, about the Civil War exploits of William B. "Black Fox" Looney who helped others in the South go north to fight for the Union Army. Maybe about his brother Anderson M. Looney, who served with the 1st Alabama. Moses Looney Jr., another brother, had two sons (one was my great grandfather) who served with the South (CSA) during the Civil War. Like many I grew up supporting one side in the Civil War over the other. In my case I sided with the CSA. In later years after learning that there was nothing civil about the Civil War and what an absolute mistake it was for father to be fighting son, brother to be fighting brother, etc., I figured out the fact that there is no glory in killing or in war. I have accepted the fact that neither side was justified or glorified by it. I no longer support one side over the other. I view the Civil War as a mistake and a tragedy because it divided America and family and it cost us dearly, both in the destruction to our country and in the loss of family. North or South, I no longer take sides, I view them all as being Americans who got caught up in the tragedy of war. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "MandM Sparks" <msparks4@kc.rr.com> To: <LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 8:42 PM Subject: [LOONEY-L] More on Elisha Luna's sons, etc. >I am disappointed that no one bothered to correct my posting that two of > Elisha Luna's son (Robert/Peter/Peter/James/Elisha) served with the CSA. > > > > It turns out the 1st Ark. Cav. Regiment was a Union unit. So they did > fight > for the Union after all. > > > > Perhaps you have to have grown up in Ozark County, Mo., to understand what > a > shock it was for me (and my cousins with whom I'd shared the news) to > think > two of Elisha's sons fought for the South. I have several other ancestors > in other branches of my Family Tree who fought for the South, so it's not > that I'm anti-South. > > > > If you were a Luna in Ozark County, you grew up knowing Elisha's home was > burned on Christmas Eve 1864 by "men from Arkansas." Elisha was said to > be > almost blind by then (from injuries in the Mexican War ), and his wife and > children managed to hide him in the woods. They still had several YOUNG > children at home, including a baby. > > > > For the record - > > > > John T. Luna and his brother James F. fought with Co. M, 1st Arkansas > Cavalry Regiment. James died in 1889 and is buried in the Patrick > Cemetery > in Ozark County, Mo. John died in 1926 and is buried in the Sheppard > Cemetery near his brother in law, Harvey N. Sheppard, wife of Elisha's > oldest daughter, Harriet. Harvey Sheppard served during the Civil War > with > Co. A, 5th Reg. Mo. State Militia. > > > > Also, another tidbit I only learned this week about the Ozark County, Mo., > Luna family: Malinda Luna, born in 1813 in Tennessee, daughter of James > and > Mary Luna, so a sister to Elisha, and her husband Samuel Sanders were also > in Ozark County in the 1850s. > > Samuel and Malinda (Luna) Sanders are buried at Sycamore, Missouri. > Samuel > Sanders died in 1859 in Ozark County. Malinda Luna Sanders died Aug. 2 > 1886. > > > > I would like to hear from Elisha and Malinda Luna Sanders relatives. > > > > Mary Ruth (Luna) Sparks (msparks4@kc.rr.com) > > > > > > > > ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== > Was "John" Robert's father? or brother? Was Robert's wife Elizabeth? Was > she a Stover or Llewellen? Was John's wife also a Llewellen (did sisters > marry brothers?)? How many of Robert's siblings and neices/nephews came > to America, too? Help us solve these mysteries today on the LOONEY list. > >

Hello Mary I can't help you out much with Elisha, but I always enjoy reading about the children of James Luna. I am descended from James Kain Luna (brother to your Elisha). One thing I have learned about Elisha is that Elisha, son of James, is often confused with Elisha, brother of James. Anyway, I'm glad to see some activity on the Looney List. Used to be a hopping place around here! Karen Luna Ray At 08:42 PM 4/22/2005 -0500, you wrote: >I am disappointed that no one bothered to correct my posting that two of >Elisha Luna's son (Robert/Peter/Peter/James/Elisha) served with the CSA. > > > >It turns out the 1st Ark. Cav. Regiment was a Union unit. So they did fight >for the Union after all. > > > >Perhaps you have to have grown up in Ozark County, Mo., to understand what a >shock it was for me (and my cousins with whom I'd shared the news) to think >two of Elisha's sons fought for the South. I have several other ancestors >in other branches of my Family Tree who fought for the South, so it's not >that I'm anti-South. > > > >If you were a Luna in Ozark County, you grew up knowing Elisha's home was >burned on Christmas Eve 1864 by "men from Arkansas." Elisha was said to be >almost blind by then (from injuries in the Mexican War ), and his wife and >children managed to hide him in the woods. They still had several YOUNG >children at home, including a baby. > > > >For the record - > > > >John T. Luna and his brother James F. fought with Co. M, 1st Arkansas >Cavalry Regiment. James died in 1889 and is buried in the Patrick Cemetery >in Ozark County, Mo. John died in 1926 and is buried in the Sheppard >Cemetery near his brother in law, Harvey N. Sheppard, wife of Elisha's >oldest daughter, Harriet. Harvey Sheppard served during the Civil War with >Co. A, 5th Reg. Mo. State Militia. > > > >Also, another tidbit I only learned this week about the Ozark County, Mo., >Luna family: Malinda Luna, born in 1813 in Tennessee, daughter of James and >Mary Luna, so a sister to Elisha, and her husband Samuel Sanders were also >in Ozark County in the 1850s. > >Samuel and Malinda (Luna) Sanders are buried at Sycamore, Missouri. Samuel >Sanders died in 1859 in Ozark County. Malinda Luna Sanders died Aug. 2 >1886. > > > >I would like to hear from Elisha and Malinda Luna Sanders relatives. > > > >Mary Ruth (Luna) Sparks (msparks4@kc.rr.com) > > > > > > > >==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== >Was "John" Robert's father? or brother? Was Robert's wife Elizabeth? Was >she a Stover or Llewellen? Was John's wife also a Llewellen (did sisters >marry brothers?)? How many of Robert's siblings and neices/nephews came >to America, too? Help us solve these mysteries today on the LOONEY list.

I am disappointed that no one bothered to correct my posting that two of Elisha Luna's son (Robert/Peter/Peter/James/Elisha) served with the CSA. It turns out the 1st Ark. Cav. Regiment was a Union unit. So they did fight for the Union after all. Perhaps you have to have grown up in Ozark County, Mo., to understand what a shock it was for me (and my cousins with whom I'd shared the news) to think two of Elisha's sons fought for the South. I have several other ancestors in other branches of my Family Tree who fought for the South, so it's not that I'm anti-South. If you were a Luna in Ozark County, you grew up knowing Elisha's home was burned on Christmas Eve 1864 by "men from Arkansas." Elisha was said to be almost blind by then (from injuries in the Mexican War ), and his wife and children managed to hide him in the woods. They still had several YOUNG children at home, including a baby. For the record - John T. Luna and his brother James F. fought with Co. M, 1st Arkansas Cavalry Regiment. James died in 1889 and is buried in the Patrick Cemetery in Ozark County, Mo. John died in 1926 and is buried in the Sheppard Cemetery near his brother in law, Harvey N. Sheppard, wife of Elisha's oldest daughter, Harriet. Harvey Sheppard served during the Civil War with Co. A, 5th Reg. Mo. State Militia. Also, another tidbit I only learned this week about the Ozark County, Mo., Luna family: Malinda Luna, born in 1813 in Tennessee, daughter of James and Mary Luna, so a sister to Elisha, and her husband Samuel Sanders were also in Ozark County in the 1850s. Samuel and Malinda (Luna) Sanders are buried at Sycamore, Missouri. Samuel Sanders died in 1859 in Ozark County. Malinda Luna Sanders died Aug. 2 1886. I would like to hear from Elisha and Malinda Luna Sanders relatives. Mary Ruth (Luna) Sparks (msparks4@kc.rr.com)

Dee, Holder Genealogy is my real passion. I monitor the Looney /Luna family since my grandmother and gg grandmother on my paternal side were Looney/Lunas. I will access my Holder database and respond to you personally regarding Samantha and Benjamin. Carl Holder ------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: <DEEMATH@aol.com> To: <LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [LOONEY-L] Fw: Elisha Luna's James and John in CSA > Mr. Holder: > > I can't resist asking you if you know anything about HOLDER genealogy?? > > I have a Samantha Holder, b. abt 1818, daughter of Bledsoe HOLDER. She > married Benjamin Looney (b. 1804). Benjamin was the son of Isom Looney. > (Isom/Benjamin/Robert Jr/Robert Sr.) > > I think Samantha and Benjamin had a son named William and I believe Benjamin > died rather young, but don't know what happened to Samantha Holder Looney. I > don't know much about the Holders. If you do, I would be very grateful to > learn more. > > Dee Mathews > > > > ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== > See our HomePages at > http://Members.AOL.Com/jsully7 (Descendants of Robert Lunney) or > http://www.Flash.Net/~johnsonl (Includes Leroy W. Tilton's work) or > http://Welcome.to/TheLooneyFamily (Elsie Stroud's Works) or > http://www.mindspring.com/~mozark (William(4) and NE AR & SE MO Looneys) > >

Mr. Holder: I can't resist asking you if you know anything about HOLDER genealogy?? I have a Samantha Holder, b. abt 1818, daughter of Bledsoe HOLDER. She married Benjamin Looney (b. 1804). Benjamin was the son of Isom Looney. (Isom/Benjamin/Robert Jr/Robert Sr.) I think Samantha and Benjamin had a son named William and I believe Benjamin died rather young, but don't know what happened to Samantha Holder Looney. I don't know much about the Holders. If you do, I would be very grateful to learn more. Dee Mathews

Mary, Actually the Republican Party was not founded until 1854, a year after Elisha left Tennessee. As for being disinherited, there appears to have been severe discord between Elisha's father, James, and a number of his children. As relating to relatives serving in the CSA, there were at least seven Tennessee Lunas who served, at least two of whom were killed in battle. These would have been nephews and cousins of Elisha. Carl Holder (Robert, Peter, Peter Luna, James Luna) ----------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry W Johnson" <johnsonl@flash.net> To: <LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 4:46 PM Subject: [LOONEY-L] Fw: Elisha Luna's James and John in CSA > I was asked to forward this, so here it is. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MandM Sparks" <msparks4@kc.rr.com> > To: "'Larry W Johnson'" <johnsonl@flash.net> > Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 10:00 PM > Subject: Elisha Luna's James and John in CSA > > > > > > > > Am I the last person to figure out that Elisha (Robert/Peter/Peter > > Jr./James/Elisha) had two sons who fought with the 1st Ark. Cavalry > > Regiment? > > > > The story always told in Ozark County, Mo., was that Elisha left Tennessee > > intending to raise one "h--- of a bunch of Republicans." And the rest of > > the story is that, he did. It was always inferred by relatives in Ozark > > County that he was disinherited because of this political break with his > > family. > > > > So I was stunned to run across John T. Luna's tombstone inscription and > > see > > that it had his CSA unit on it. When I ran a Google search on the 1st > > Ark. > > Cavalry, Co. M, not only was John there, but so was his brother James. > > They > > joined the same day, of course. > > > > Okay, are there others in Elisha's family who fought for the CSA that I've > > still not learned about? > > > > Mary Sparks > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== > See our HomePages at > http://Members.AOL.Com/jsully7 (Descendants of Robert Lunney) or > http://www.Flash.Net/~johnsonl (Includes Leroy W. Tilton's work) or > http://Welcome.to/TheLooneyFamily (Elsie Stroud's Works) or > http://www.mindspring.com/~mozark (William(4) and NE AR & SE MO Looneys) > >

I was asked to forward this, so here it is. ----- Original Message ----- From: "MandM Sparks" <msparks4@kc.rr.com> To: "'Larry W Johnson'" <johnsonl@flash.net> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 10:00 PM Subject: Elisha Luna's James and John in CSA > > > Am I the last person to figure out that Elisha (Robert/Peter/Peter > Jr./James/Elisha) had two sons who fought with the 1st Ark. Cavalry > Regiment? > > The story always told in Ozark County, Mo., was that Elisha left Tennessee > intending to raise one "h--- of a bunch of Republicans." And the rest of > the story is that, he did. It was always inferred by relatives in Ozark > County that he was disinherited because of this political break with his > family. > > So I was stunned to run across John T. Luna's tombstone inscription and > see > that it had his CSA unit on it. When I ran a Google search on the 1st > Ark. > Cavalry, Co. M, not only was John there, but so was his brother James. > They > joined the same day, of course. > > Okay, are there others in Elisha's family who fought for the CSA that I've > still not learned about? > > Mary Sparks > > > >