Pat Davis, Colleen Lucus and I are still looking for our Joseph Looney. On the 1840 Meigs, County TN census page 247 is listed a Joseph Loony, Joseph Loony, Jr., Lewellen Looney and LeRoy Looney. Hopefully this connects to someone's line than can give us further information. Thanks, Judi Wright

I received it. Bettye Looney Bowerman

This e-mail address doesn't work??

In a message dated 00-02-26 00:23:12 EST, you write: << Subj: [LOONEY-L] School Assignment Date: 00-02-26 00:23:12 EST From: [email protected] Reply-to: [email protected] To: [email protected] Hi, I'll send a postcard. I live in Prattville, Al. It is near Montgomery. I am a second grade teacher and I will be glad to help. Please let me know how. Sincerely, Deborah McGee Bailey >> GEOGRAPHY SCHOOL ASSIGNMENT You guys are fantastic! I am in your debt. Here are the instructions for my ten year old grandaughter's assignment: Part One: Simply send a Post Card depicting a scene from where you live, to the following address...Brittany Cobb; c/o Mrs. Presley; C.R. Clements Elementary School; 306 E. Ave E; Copperas Cove, Texas 76522. On the back, just put that you heard about the assignment from Grandpa Mike. Part Two: Send me an email to [email protected] All you need put in it is...(1) the date (2) your name (first name only will do, I'm sure) (3) your location (4) then finally, just a few words describing your location, such as famous landmarks, historical sites, industries, or other neat facts about where you live. You do not need to do any special research for this. It is for a 5th grade Geography class. They are making a scrapbook of these post cards. She has hardly ever been outside Texas, so she is really "fired up" over this. I will collect all these emails, and send them on to Brittany in one bunch. The only thing I emphasize is that this assignment is due no later than March 15, 2000. I won't forget your offer to help, guys. Those grandchildren are special! Mike [email protected]

In a message dated 00-02-25 10:15:43 EST, you write: << Subj: Re: [LOONEY-L] School Assignment Date: 00-02-25 10:15:43 EST From: [email protected] Reply-to: [email protected] To: [email protected] I'm willing to help! Mary Dee -- Southern California >> GEOGRAPHY SCHOOL ASSIGNMENT You guys are fantastic! I am in your debt. Here are the instructions for my ten year old grandaughter's assignment: Part One: Simply send a Post Card depicting a scene from where you live, to the following address...Brittany Cobb; c/o Mrs. Presley; C.R. Clements Elementary School; 306 E. Ave E; Copperas Cove, Texas 76522. On the back, just put that you heard about the assignment from Grandpa Mike. Part Two: Send me an email to [email protected] All you need put in it is...(1) the date (2) your name (first name only will do, I'm sure) (3) your location (4) then finally, just a few words describing your location, such as famous landmarks, historical sites, industries, or other neat facts about where you live. You do not need to do any special research for this. It is for a 5th grade Geography class. They are making a scrapbook of these post cards. She has hardly ever been outside Texas, so she is really "fired up" over this. I will collect all these emails, and send them on to Brittany in one bunch. The only thing I emphasize is that this assignment is due no later than March 15, 2000. I won't forget your offer to help, guys. Those grandchildren are special! Mike [email protected]

Hi, I'll send a postcard. I live in Prattville, Al. It is near Montgomery. I am a second grade teacher and I will be glad to help. Please let me know how. Sincerely, Deborah McGee Bailey My mother was a Luna

Bushy, You ever heard of the Emigrants Savings Bank...? Don't know what that was, but someone looking for an ancestor was referred to it in this email below - from the Looney mail list. Dennis In a message dated 2/25/00 10:00:56 AM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Hi Jack, Just a thought, you might try the Emigrants Savings Bank, to see if he might be listed there. His parents may list him as a benefactor. Leah http://www.genexchange.com/esb/

Can any of you shed any light on a Henry Loonie? ( Looney) B.1865 I cant seem to find him anywhere, believe he was born in N.Y. Thanks for any effort you might put forth. [email protected]

I'm willing to help! Mary Dee -- Southern California

If anyone is willing to send a Post Card to help my ten year g/daughter with a Geography assignment, contact me directly for info. Thanks, Mike Cobb in TX

Glad to forward. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jan Greer <[email protected]> To: Larry W. Johnson <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 7:19 PM Subject: Looney > Hi Larry, > Wondering if you could help with anything you might know about these lines. > I send the info to the Looney list, but never did see my e-mail posted. > I receive the Looney List e-mail, but can't seem to send. > Below is the 2 e-mails I sent to the List. > Could you post this info to the list for me. > Looking forward to hearing from you. > Jan Greer > =================================== > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jan Greer" <[email protected]> > To: "Looney" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, February 21, 2000 10:14 PM > Subject: Looney's of Freestone Co., TX > > Hi Looney group, found these Looneys in Freestone Co, TX > > Anyone searching this line ?? > Jan Greer, Nacogdoches, TX > [email protected] > > Descendants of Evan James Looney > > 1 Evan James Looney Source 1: History of Freestone Co., TX by the > Freestone Co. Historical Comm, 1st Ed. 1978 Source 2: Freestone Co., TX > History - Hannibal Looney, family 543 written by Marguerite Bowers Wertz > Source 3: History of Freestone Co., TX by the Freestone Co. Historical > Comm, 2nd Vol 1989; Military service: Civil War, Confederate States of > America > . +Francis S. J. White b: in Granville Co., NC > . 2 [1] Hannibal Looney b: March 07, 1853 in Weakley Co., TN d: > September 04, 1930 Burial: Greenwood Cemetery, Teague, TX > ..... +Emma McClain b: 1854 m: 1873 in Martin, TN d: 1877 > ..... 3 William Junius Looney > ......... +Ida Pointer > ........ 4 Emma Lynn Looney > ........ 4 Violet Looney > . *2nd Wife of [1] Hannibal Looney: > ..... +Margaret Luella Byers m: 1879 d: November 13, 1940 Burial: > Greenwood Cemetery, Teague, TX > ..... 3 James Burton 'J.B.' Looney b: 1880 d: 1965 Burial: Greenwood > Cemetery, Teague, TX > ......... +Effie Mae Guttry b: 1884 m: in Stephens, Ark d: 1966 > ........ 4 James Looney b: 1905 d: 1982 > ............ +Lucille Cope > ........ 4 Helen May Looney > ............ +Robert Armand Fulcher d: 1971 > ............ 5 James Armand 'Jimmy' Fulcher Military service:WW II > ............ 5 Robert Laverne 'Bobby' > ........ 4 Joesphine Looney b: 1909 d: 1972 > ............ +Johnnie Benson > ........ 4 Maedel > ............ +Bill Bunker > ..... 3 Charles Edward 'Charlie' > ......... +Viola Emmons > ........ 4 Fred Looney > ........ 4 Robert > ........ 4 Claude > ..... 3 Paul Winefred Looney Burial: Greenwood Cemetery, Teague, TX > ......... +Vernon Rhea > ..... 3 Huron Abijah Looney Burial: Greenwood Cemetery, Teague, TX > ......... +Mary Collins > ..... 3 Janie Pearl Looney Burial: Greenwood Cemetery, Teague, TX > ......... +Edgar ..... 3 [2] Fred Byers Looney > ......... +Mattie Lee Piercy m: Bef. 1923 > ..... *2nd Wife of [2] Fred Byers Looney: > ......... +Edna Smith m: 1924 > ..... 3 Robert Hannibal Looney Burial: Greenwood Cemetery, Teague, TX > Military service: Army WW I > ..... 3 Clyde Columbus (twin) Looney b: 1895 Military service: Army > WW I > ......... +Rose Evans > ........ 4 Billy Dewain Looney > ..... 3 Claude Augustus (twin) Looney b: 1895 Military service: Army > WW I > ......... +Annie Eugene Goolsby > ........ 4 son Looney d: in Died in infancy > ........ 4 Gerald Looney d: in went down w/ submarinbe Swoardfish, > ===================================== > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jan Greer" <[email protected]> > To: "Looney" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, February 21, 2000 10:13 PM > Subject: Francis M 'Dick' Looney family > > Hi Looney group, Any help on this Looney line would be appreciated > > Jan Greer, Nacogdoches, TX > [email protected] > > Descendants of FRANCIS M. 'Dick' LOONEY > > 1 FRANCIS M. 'Dick' LOONEY > . +ELIZABETH ANN KEATERSON > . 2 [1] JAMES MARION 'Jim' LOONEY b: June 10, 1880 in OK > ..... +Georgiann Diera STAFFORD m: November 21, 1901 in Mena, Ark d: > December 20, 1913 Father: Nathan STAFFORD Mother: Mary Jane MILLER > ..... 3 Ruby LOONEY b: in Board Camp, Ark > ......... +Joseph D. LITTLE > ..... 3 Mildred G. LOONEY b: November 10, 1913 in Board Camp, Ark d: > August 31, 1994 in Oregon > ......... +Hartzel GEYER > ..... 3 Layman LOONEY > . *2nd Wife of [1] JAMES MARION 'Jim' LOONEY: > ..... +Fannie Retha MILLER m: 1914 Father: William Anderson MILLER > Mother: Rebecca Jane McDONALD > ..... 3 Eloise LOONEY > ......... +Dr. EMBRY m: in Tucson, AZ > ..... 3 Helen LOONEY > ......... +--?-- TISHER > ======================================end================= > > > > > > >

Larry, That first group that Jan sent & you posted that some died in Teague, looks like the family of the man in Ft. Worth, that I gave you a copy of his papers in early 1995. You have their whole genealogy there somewhere, that goes all the way back to Robt. Senior & Elizabeth Looney. Dianne

I'm still trying to learn more about the parentage of Fereby Benton/Looney (not sure what her actual last name was). Having gone over the Rootsweb search engine for postings on Fereby over the past 3 years. I thought I'd post what I've found and try to make sense of it. First, here is what most family researchers consider "settled" regarding Fereby. She was born sometime between 1745 and 1750 in North Carolina. the 1850 Madison County Mortality schedule lists her as being 105. She died in May, 1850 in Madison County, Arkansas. Some have said she was born in 1850, I however favor what the records say. Around 1772, she married William Vaughan in Sweetens cove, Tennessee. In 1773 their son Thomas Vaughan was born in the town of Cherokee, in land that was part of the Cherokee Nation (now Swain County)in North Carolina. Other children include William, John, Samuel, David, Daniel, Martha and Elizabeth. There is some connection to Ayres Vaughan, but if his year of birth is correct, he could not be the son of William and Fereby. I won't touch on that now. William was in Capt. David Looney's company in Lord Dunmore's War in 1774, serving with Daniel Boone. William and Fereby had no children during the years that the Revolutionary War was going on. They lived in Hawkins County, TN, then moved west, with brief stays in NE Missouri. By 1821 they were in Crawford County, Arkansas, near short Mountain Creek, living across from a large Cherokee Village until 1826, when they were forced to move. They lived in Evansville in Washington County, AR and moved to Cane Hill in Washington County in 1826, then to Tuttle Settlement on Richland in 1828. This information is from "Vaughans in Wales and America" by James Vaughan. They ended up in Washington, Madison and Carroll Counties in Northwest Arkansas, and there they stayed. My Great x 3 Grandfather, Benjamin Franklin Vaughan lived with William and Fereby -his grandparents- for some years, and on October 27th, 1892 made a sworn deposition in a case that a relative had brought before the Cherokee Nation in OK. In this deposition, Ben, a former State Representative and 3 time Sheriff of Madison County, states that he knew that his Grandmother Fereby was commonly thought of as a Cherokee Indian by Blood. He wrote, " I also became acquainted with a Cherokee Indian in my boyhood who was in the habit of visiting my Grandparents and who claimed to be a cousin of my Grandmother. The Indian's name-Looney Tol-lem-Tees-Key, and was a citizen of the Cherokee Nation. (And further) That I was a grown up man at the time I knew him. That I have often heard the Roggers (sic) (John and James) say that the Vaughans should have a right in the Cherokee Nation and old Capt. John Roggers wanted the deponent to remain in the Cherokee Nation while the deponent was there, for the reason that the Vaughans were descendants of the Cherokee Indians by blood." Ben further said that Fereby's maiden name was Benton and that her mother's maiden name was Looney and she was the side the Cherokee came from. William Vaughan died about 1838 in (probably) Madison County, Arkansas. He is said to have been buried in Clifty Cemetery, but had no tombstone, and nobody knows where he was laid to rest. That is what is "fact" on Fereby Benton/Looney. Now here is the family "stories", none of them proven. 1.) Fereby was the daughter of a Cherokee sub-chief and was 100%, 50%, 25%, ect Cherokee Indian. 2.) Fereby was the daughter or granddaughter of a Raincrow, a Cherokee. Or she was the niece of Chief Doublehead and there was a court case which "proved" it in Washington or Madison Counties. Or she was cousins to chief John Jolly and Chief Tahlonteeskee (born about 1776) 3.) Fereby was the daughter of a Malinda or Martha Looney and a James or Jesse Benton(born 1724 in NC). Malinda/Martha's father was John Looney, born about 1700 in Bradley County, TN, who was 3/4ths Cherokee. 4.) Fereby was somehow related to Capt. David Looney (1738-1810) whom her husband served under in Lord Dunmore's War. This would make her a descendant of the Robert Looney line. 5.) Fereby's mother wasn't a Looney as two of her grandsons swore in court, but her maiden name was Benton, which Fereby took in Cherokee fashion. Her father was an unknown Looney. 6.) Fereby was not Cherokee at all, but her family and the Vaughans lived with and near the Cherokees and tried to pass themselves off as members of the tribe, especially since the early 1900s. That is pretty much where all of us descendants stand today on Fereby research. Here is what I've pieced together. I feel it is safe to assume that Fereby was indeed born in 1745. Her children's ages would match well, although her daughter Elizabeth, born 1790 would have made Fereby about 45 years old at the time of the birth. Still possible, but at the very edge of the childbearing years in the 1700s. If Fereby was born in 1745, her mother would have had to have been born no earlier then 1700. Fereby's mother would have been born no later then 1730 (making her 15 at the time of Fereby's birth). So the range of years for the birth of Fereby's mom is 1700-1730. A safe assumption is that her mother was born between 1705-1725. We can't track her father's birth years the same way, as men sometimes sired children into their 70s. So to find Fereby's mother, we need to locate a Looney or Benton with a birth date of 1700-1730. Most of the children of Robert and Elizabeth Looney (who Capt. David descends from) are known. It's a large, well-researched family, and none of their children married Bentons. Capt. David Looney was born in 1738 and would be too young to be Fereby's father. He did have a daughter named Elizabeth who married a John Vaughn (no "A" in the name) sometime before 1801. Although this Looney family lived in Sullivan County, TN., I don't think David is Fereby's father. Could he be her brother? Well, Robert and Elizabeth Looney had a son, Joseph, in 1740. Most Looney researchers say Elizabeth was born in 1700, so she could have had Fereby at age 45, but there is no record of it, and I doubt it. My theory on the Looney side is that Fereby was the granddaughter of a brother of Robert Looney. I suspect that her mother was indeed named Malinda or Martha. Malinda's father may not have been Robert's brother but a Cherokee that took the last name Looney out of respect for the Looney family living near by. The John Looney that was 75% Cherokee could indeed be Martha's father, and Cherokee records would have to be consulted from the 1700 time frame, and even if there was a record, he'd probably be listed by his Indian name. The James or Jesse Benton stories as the father of Fereby have been impossible to track. Some have claimed that Jesse Benton lived in the "Southside Virginia" area and later in Sullivan County, TN. There is one interesting possibility. In "Abstracts of the Wills of Edgecombe County, NC 1733-1856" on page 37, there is the following will, which I will reproduce in part: BENTON, Charity April 5, 1818 August Court. 1818 book E page 22. Son and Exr: James Benton 1/3rd of estate. Daughter: Pherabe (SOUND IT OUT Pherabe and FAIR-A-BE), 20S already provided for. Other children: Allen Knight, Elizabeth C. Benton, Polly Corbin, Sally, Kindred Knight (deceased), John C. Knight (deceased), Elizabeth Nicholson (deceased). Now, if Pherabe and Fereby are the same person, Fereby would have to have been 63 years old when Charity died. The interesting thing is, three of Charity's kids are listed as deceased. As if their Mom was very old and had out-lived them. If Charity was 83 years old, then it would work easily. The thing is, after Pherabe is the "20S". Does that mean that she was 20 and single or mean that she received 20 shillings or something else. This is where I plan to aim my research next. Also not that Charity's oldest son was named James. Usually the oldest son was named after his father, and if that was so, then we have a James Benton who had a daughter named Pherabe. Regarding the Rain Crow links; I know that the Looneys had some neighbors with the last name of Crow living near them in Virginia. From what I can tell, they weren't Indians and none were named Rain. David Looney had dealings with them. Doublehead and John Jolly are famous Cherokees, and there is no indication that Fereby was related to them. I have no documentation on that, but she still could have been. Tol-lem-Tees-Key is a white person's attempt to phonically spell out Tahlonteeskee. The word means "Woodcuck Catcher". Fereby was a Tom-lem-Tees-Key's cousin. There is no indication that this means that the same man as Tahlonteeskee, who was a chief and John Jolly's brother. The Cherokee name was popular. John Jolly and Tahlonteeskee's father was Robert Due, and if Fereby was his cousin, that would mean that one of Robert Due's siblings was either Fereby's mother or father. Both chiefs came to Arkansas, part of the Old Settler group, and William and Fereby lived nearby and probably knew them. But that doesn't mean that Fereby was a cousin. Sadly, Cherokee records are scant and proving this would be nearly impossible. So in summary, I suspect that Fereby was the daughter of a Malinda Looney and a Jesse or James Benton. She may be the same as the Pherebe listed in Charity Benton's will. I suspect that her mother (whatever her name actually was) was part Cherokee, but her father was white. The stories told by Fereby to her children stayed in their minds and were enlarged by the 1800s to make her the daughter of a chief and related to the most famous chiefs. I suspect that Fereby's Looney grandfather was either a brother to Robert Looney or else an Indian that knew Robert that took the Looney name as his "white" name. I would love any comments on this research, any suggestions or "proof" that any of you might have. Eddie Davis [email protected]

Are there any persons on the list who descend through the Silas King Luna line? Possibly through Doris Ann Blair (nee Morgensen). This is the Peter (2)(3) line down through James, and James Kain Luna. I believe the Silas King Luna family ended up in Canada. Anyway, if so, would appreciate you emailing me at [email protected] Karen Luna Ray

Yes, the Clayton Library is definitely the place to go. When I go, I pack a lunch and go on Mon, Tues, or Wed. because it stays open till 9:00 P.M. I plan so that I can have a good 10 hrs to indulge myself in research. Of course, the day is more exciting to go with a friend so you can express your joy when a great find happens. Perkalong << I have been there about 5 times.......and can go back another five times easily. >>

Is there anyone on this list that is a Historian? I'm on another e-mail list for Bossier Parish, Louisiana. Clifton D. Cardin is the Official Bossier Parish Historian and he's sent me some interesting reading on Looney's in Bossier Parish. If anyone is interest I'll send the info. Bettye Looney Bowerman

----- Original Message ----- From: Larry W Johnson <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 1:52 AM Subject: [LOONEY-L] Joseph M. Looney, Tenn>Louisiana > I've combined data from a couple of messages sent earlier to this group by > CSLooney. I believe the Joseph Looney noted in the following data to be > Joseph McMinn Looney, said to be born 1808 Stanley Valley, Hawkins Co., > Tenn., son of Absalom Looney (d. 1858 Sparta, Bienbille Parish, LA) and > Nancy Long, grandson to Benjamin Looney and Mary Johnson, great grandson to > Robert Looney Jr. and Margaret Rhea. > > My record shows Joseph M. Looney to be married twice. > First marriage to Amanda Hickey with children: > Robert W. (b. 1826) > John S. (b. 1831) > David A. (b. 1833) > Hugh C. (b. 1835) > Emaline (b. 1837) > Amanda (b. 1842) > James K. (b. 1846) > Second marriage to Delaney Evans with one child: > Delaney Evans Looney > > To complicate (or should I say simplify) this relationship farther, Absalom > Looney, father to this Joseph M. Looney, was also married twice. First to > Nancy Long and second to Eleanor Wilson. He had children by both wives, one > being Robert Johnson Looney (b. 1823) by the second. Absalom and several of > these children were known to be in Louisiana. > > Larry Johnson > ============================================================ > > Louisiana Soldiers In the War of 1812, Knight to Loughridge > > Compiled by John Bennett Pierson > > > > Looney, Joseph Private Captain Young' Co., Mounted Riflemen, La. Militia > > ============================================================ > > > > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/data/la+index+1079898698083 > +F > > 1850 U.S. Census, West Feliciana Parish, La. > > Submitted by Donald W. Johnson > > > > OCCUPATION FAM.# NAME AGE SEX COLOR BIRTH > > PLAC > > Lumber 454 Joseph Looney 47 M W Tenn. > > Louisa 43 F W Tenn. > > Lumber Robert W. 24 M W Tenn. > > Lumber John S. 19 M W Tenn. > > Lumber David A. 17 M W Tenn. > > Lumber Hugh C. 15 M W Tenn. > > Emaline 13 F W Tenn. > > Amanda C. 8 F W Tenn. > > James K.P. 4 M W Tenn. > > C William Burton 36 M W Virginia > > ============================================================ > Old Bienville Parish Newspapers > > August 18 1866, Vol.1 No.44 > Died in Bienville Parish on the 15th of July 1866, JOSEPH M. LOONEY, > Esq. The deceased was an old and respected citizen, was born in Hawkins > Co. Tenn. Oct. 25th 1810. He leaves a widow and several children. > Joeseph McMinn was married 3 times,(1) Delaney Evans,1 son William Benjamin Evans(my g-grandfather) (2) Amanda Hickey,2 dau., Delaney Evans Looney and Nancy Jane Looney. (3) Nancy B. Byas, 3 children, Martha Matilda, Joesph P. and Permilia Alice. Clenna Looney @ [email protected] > > > > ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== > This list is dedicated to the search for ancestors of LOONEY, LUNNEY, > LUNA (Scotch-Irish), LEENEY and variations, all of which originated in > County Cork, Ireland. Please refer other researchers to our list. > >

Thanks! I thought it was Mary Polly, but can't find anything to substantiate. Benne -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Friday, February 18, 2000 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [LOONEY-L] Galbraith/Looney Marriage >Don't remember where the info came from but it was Mary Polly that married >Benj. They were married 11/20/1792 in Tenn. Their children were Arthur >(2/9/1795), David Riley (2/2/1793), Benjamin (1/31/1797), Moses (1/24/1801), >Mary (7/11/1802), John (1797) & Anthony (1804). Her parents were Arthur >Gailbreath and Mary Sharp. > >Richard > > >==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== >See our HomePages at > http://Members.AOL.Com/jsully7 (Descendants of Robert Lunney) or > http://www.Flash.Net/~johnsonl (Includes Leroy W. Tilton's work) or > http://Welcome.to/TheLooneyFamily (Elsie Stroud's Works) or > http://www.mindspring.com/~mozark (Native American Looneys - John) >

The 5th best Genealogy Library in the USof A. The Clayton Library is right here in Houston. I'm going tomorrow! It is a great place. Ginny Ayers Spann VASPANN @aol.com Houston, TX USA Researching: Ayers, Byrom, Green, Fowler, Kyle, Looney & Seabolt

Does anyone have documentation on which Galbraith married Benjamin (4) Looney? Looking through my records I have found one note that says Mary Polly Galbraith, daughter of Arthur Galbraith, married Benjamin. In another note I have found where someone said that Elizabeth Polly Galbraith, the daughter of Aeneas Galbraith (a brother to Mary Polly) married Benjamin. Would appreciate any enlightenment. Benne