Could you send the address of the chat again please? Thank you, Jacklyn
For those of you interested please the Looney Chat schedule below. Hope you can make it. Bettye: I have you down for Fridays 8-10 pm Eastern; 7-9 pm Central; 6-8 pm Mt.; and 5-7 pm Pacific. Jean Bettye Looney Bowerman
Did you send it DIRECTLY to the person involved., instead of the Looney-L ??
I sent a message several hours ago and have yet to see it posted. Is anyone else having this problem? Laura
Hey, everyone. I just wanted to let you know that this is my Mom (Barbara Cathey). She got an email asking how she is related (I did not get that one, hmmm). We are of the David line through his son David. You can see our line at Steve's (?) site. I think that is where the submitter list was. Laura
--part1_ce.399ad3e.261bfa96_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bettye Looney Bowerman --part1_ce.399ad3e.261bfa96_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from rly-yb02.mx.aol.com (rly-yb02.mail.aol.com [172.18.146.2]) by air-yb02.mail.aol.com (v70.20) with ESMTP; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 18:11:11 -0400 Received: from bl-11.rootsweb.com (bl-11.rootsweb.com [209.85.6.27]) by rly-yb02.mx.aol.com (v71.10) with ESMTP; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 18:10:52 -0400 Received: (from [email protected]) by bl-11.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA15248; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 15:03:53 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 15:03:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-Sender: [email protected] Tue Apr 4 15:03:51 2000 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Reply-To: "Jean Brandau" <[email protected]> From: "Jean Brandau" <[email protected]> Old-To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:@earthlink.net;> Subject: Updated Alabama Genealogy website Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 17:02:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Resent-From: [email protected] X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/1344 X-Loop: [email protected] Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [email protected] Hi, Genealogists: Just a note to let you know that I've updated my ALABAMA GENEALOGY page: http://huntsville.about.com/msubgenealogymenu.htm If you have a website that focuses on Alabama Genealogy and it's not on there, please send me the URL for review and inclusion! Thanks, Jean Brandau [email protected] --part1_ce.399ad3e.261bfa96_boundary--
I don't know if I am sending this to the proper address. A submission to Looney-L was forwarded to me by my daughter. She sent it because I am going to the Isle of Man in May. Have you received responses to your questions about Ballagilley? I was in the IOM in 1993 and purchased "A History of Kirk Maughold" by W and C Radcliffe. According to land records, Looneys did not own Ballagilley until the generation after Robert. Thomas Looney (1750-1826) purchased part of Ballagilley. His nephew, John Looney, was farming 30 acres of Ballagilley in 1851. Thomas Looney's Parents John Looney and Margaret Kelvin or Kelvie were contemporaries of our Robert. They purchased part of the half quarterland of Crowcreen in 1748. It is near Ballagilley. Looneys prior to this were found on "staff" land in the 17th century and were listed among cottage holders in what is now Ramsey in 1600. John and Margaret were said to have come from Ramsey when they bought their part of Crowcreen. Margaret's family came from Scotland. I feel there is a connection between these early Manx Looneys and our Robert, but there is no documentation. The Ballagilley connection may have come from later generations corresponding with family in the old country or more likely from the visit of M. D. Looney to the Isle of Man in 1927 where he found the Looney homestead, Ballagilley Farm, and assumed that it was owned by Looneys back to the time of Robert's birth. I have heard family traditions that Robert left the IOM because of religious persecution and that an ancestor fought with Marlborough at Flanders. Also a connection to the Derby family that ruled Man for many years (I feel this was most likely from one of our American Looney's habit of saying that something or other made his "Derby blood run cold" which could have been said by a supporter or Derby as well as family). Let me know what else you have found. Barbara Looney Cathey Jacksonville, Fl
--part1_9a.2fb8a1b.2619030e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ginny Ayers Spann VASPANN @aol.com Houston, TX USA Researching: Ayers, Byrom, Green, Fowler, Kyle, Looney & Seabolt --part1_9a.2fb8a1b.2619030e_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from rly-zb02.mx.aol.com (rly-zb02.mail.aol.com [172.31.41.2]) by air-zb03.mail.aol.com (v70.20) with ESMTP; Sun, 02 Apr 2000 07:11:52 -0500 Received: from fs1d1.courtie.com (fs1d1.courtie.com [194.72.205.114]) by rly-zb02.mx.aol.com (v70.21) with ESMTP; Sun, 02 Apr 2000 07:11:40 -0500 Received: from mail.bitstorm.net by fs1d1.isle-of-man.com (NTList 3.02.13) id za590199; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 12:07:35 +0100 Received: from pavilion (digital36.pm3-06.orlando-fl.bitstorm.net [216.136.17.84]) by www.bitstorm.net (8.9.0/8.9.1) with SMTP id HAA24845 for <[email protected]>; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 07:08:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <[email protected]> From: "Richard C. Witters" <[email protected]> To: "IOM" <[email protected]> Subject: Robert Looney Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 07:08:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0021_01BF9C72.39CCEF80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Info: The Manx Genealogy Discussion List Reply-To: Manx Genealogy Discussion List <[email protected]> Error-To: [email protected] X-Unsubscribe: Send 'leave roots' to [email protected] to leave X-ListMember: [email protected] [[email protected]] ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01BF9C72.39CCEF80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Today is my day for working on my Looney family. Isabella (Lewin) Looney di= ed on 18 July 1850 in Maughold. How might I obtain an obituary from the IOM= ? Also her husband ROBERT LOONEY died in the Isle of Man. He was a shoemak= er at (something) Bridge. Sure could use some help on this one. Thank you. Dick DeBary, Florida Reply to: [email protected] ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01BF9C72.39CCEF80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2314.1000" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Today is my day for working on my Looney family. =20 Isabella (Lewin) Looney died on 18 July 1850 in Maughold. How might I=20 obtain an obituary from the IOM? Also her husband ROBERT LOONEY died i= n=20 the Isle of Man. He was a shoemaker at (something) Bridge. Sure=20 could use some help on this one.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thank you.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Dick<BR>DeBary, Florida<BR>Reply to: <A=20 href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A></FONT></DIV>= </BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01BF9C72.39CCEF80-- --part1_9a.2fb8a1b.2619030e_boundary--
--part1_78.3729a17.261902e8_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ginny Ayers Spann VASPANN @aol.com Houston, TX USA Researching: Ayers, Byrom, Green, Fowler, Kyle, Looney & Seabolt --part1_78.3729a17.261902e8_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from rly-zb05.mx.aol.com (rly-zb05.mail.aol.com [172.31.41.5]) by air-zb05.mail.aol.com (v70.20) with ESMTP; Sun, 02 Apr 2000 06:56:23 -0500 Received: from fs1d1.courtie.com (fs1d1.courtie.com [194.72.205.114]) by rly-zb05.mx.aol.com (v70.21) with ESMTP; Sun, 02 Apr 2000 06:56:10 -0500 Received: from mail.bitstorm.net by fs1d1.isle-of-man.com (NTList 3.02.13) id ta590193; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 11:54:14 +0100 Received: from pavilion (digital36.pm3-06.orlando-fl.bitstorm.net [216.136.17.84]) by www.bitstorm.net (8.9.0/8.9.1) with SMTP id GAA23670 for <[email protected]>; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 06:55:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <[email protected]> From: "Richard C. Witters" <[email protected]> To: "IOM" <[email protected]> Subject: Looneys Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 06:54:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01BF9C70.5C6A3E00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Info: The Manx Genealogy Discussion List Reply-To: Manx Genealogy Discussion List <[email protected]> Error-To: [email protected] X-Unsubscribe: Send 'leave roots' to [email protected] to leave X-ListMember: [email protected] [[email protected]] ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01BF9C70.5C6A3E00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good morning, Would some kind sole please help me? I am looking for information on two ch= ildren of Robert Looney and Isabella Lewin. The first is Isabella Looney wh= o was Christened 22 Feb. 1829 in Maughold. The second daughter was Margaret= Looney who was Christened 13 May 1831, also in Maughold. She married Rober= t Kermeen (shoemaker) 1 Oct 1850. Any information will REALLY be appreciate= d. Thank you and have a great day, Dick DeBary, Florida Reply to: [email protected] ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01BF9C70.5C6A3E00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2314.1000" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Good morning,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Would some kind sole please help me? I am looking=20= for=20 information on two children of Robert Looney and Isabella Lewin. The f= irst=20 is Isabella Looney who was Christened 22 Feb. 1829 in Maughold. The se= cond=20 daughter was Margaret Looney who was Christened 13 May 1831, also in=20 Maughold. She married Robert Kermeen (shoemaker) 1 Oct 1850. Any= =20 information will REALLY be appreciated.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thank you and have a great day,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Dick<BR>DeBary, Florida<BR>Reply to: <A=20 href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A></FONT></DIV>= </BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01BF9C70.5C6A3E00-- --part1_78.3729a17.261902e8_boundary--
Hi, All: Thank you Steve for your helpful message. I'm sorry to be so long in replying, but have been out of town. I did manage to do some Looney research at the Newberry Library in Chicago. Didn't find much new and nothing new on Robert (1). Message text written by INTERNET:[email protected] >Rather than duplicate what others will send, I would >suggest you pick up of copy of the book >"Most Distinguished Characters On The American Frontier" >by Madge Looney Crane and son Phillip Crane. http://www.robertlooney.com/ >It contains about everything that's been discovered and >documented as "fact" concerning Robert (1) Looney and >wife ELIZABETH. I do plan to buy this book, but don't believe I will receive it before I leave. My e-mail sent to their site was never answered (since the 16th). Wasn't sure I should just send a check off. How do we know that Robert came from Ballagilley on Man? Do we have any other Manx sites we know of to check out? I thought I might search for some of the sites mentioned in the William Cubban notes. I found Ballagilley on a Manx map, but haven't found the other sites yet. Has anyone visited any of the other sites? I have been to Kirk Maughold and plan to return there and well as going to Kirk Lonan. I also plan to go to the Manx Museum (again) and there is a genealogical collection in Peel. > (That's the first hit you'll probably >get notes about. The 2nd is likely to be about >Robert's parents. To date, no one has discovered any >documentation that gives their names. If you've found anything, >please let us know). The LDS site has John Looney and Elizabeth Llewellyn but no documentation. As I said before they have this John born in Augusta Co. VA *before* Jamestown was settled, so definitely not documented. They have Robert's wife as Elizabeth Stover (Barabar)--again no documentation. So who is Robert's real wife? Or do we know her last name? >My wife and I are also planning an IOM journey ... probably around 01 July to coinicide with the week-long Tynwald festival. I will be glad to share with you, and anyone else, whatever I might find--if it is only more pictures. Teresa McVeigh, married to Stephen W. Looney
Is there a looney guru? Someone who is the Keeper of Looney information? I have been going through my Looney (and variations thereof) information and would like to send it out -- is it just as easy to do it as a LOONEY-L "broadcast" e-mail or is there someone who may have a fairly complete database? Thank you~! Mary Dee -- presumably descended from George A. Looney who was for several years in Elyria OH -- from late 1860's to about 1872... based on family information-- which is a bit "off" date-wise ;(
Dear Ginny, You have got to be kidding me?! OK I will tell you what I know about them so far and maybe you can help me from there. From what I have been told Robert Looney (David Reasons father) had 14 brothers and Sister. Now my side of the Looney family came from one of those brothers. Do you have any information on any of them? Do you possibly know how Abraham and Elizabeth fit into this? I would love to see what you have! Lisa
Lisa, Hello from another cousin. David Reasons Looney's father was Robert and his mother was Rebecca (KYLES?). Robert's siblings were David (Jr.)(who married Jane Spurgeon), Joseph (who married Lavinia Earnest), Abraham (who married Elizabeth Gammon), Elizabeth (who married John Vaughn), Sarah (married Samuel Gregg), Jane (married Samuel Carruthers), Mary (married Jeremiah Taylor), and Annis (married Hugh Crawford). The parents of these siblings were David and Mary Ann (McClellan) Looney and the parents of David were Robert and Elizabeth Looney. I hope that this helps. Let me know what you have on your line, and I will try to tie you in. Or Ginny or someone else may be able to. Just go back as far as you can and show us that. I am from the David (Jr) line. Laura
Hi Lisa! David Reasons Looney is my gg-grandfather & Joseph K is his baby brother! How can I help> Ginny [email protected]
Green County Cemeteries by township: http://www.rootsweb.com/~mogreene/grecem2.htm Willard appears to be in Murrary Township Looney Grove Cemetery is in Murray Township Looney Cemetery is in Walnut Grove Township, northwest of Murray According to GLO, Green Co. land purchases by Looneys. Allen bought government land in 1844, Twp 31 N, Rng 24 W Isaac bought government land in 1847, Twp 30, Rng 24 W. Jesse in 1843 and John in 1843, bought government land in Township 30 N, Range 23 W. Suggest you obtain a map of Greene County from: MODOT P.O. Box 270, General Services Division Jefferson City, MO 65102 (573) 751-2825 Cost is 50 cents per county. Highway map shows township, range and section plus cemetery, church, river, creek and school locations, well worth the money. bill
Can anyone offer guidance on where to visit in Greene Co., MO to maximize Looney old homesites and cemeteries? We will be in the neighborhood, and all I know is "around Willard." Suggestions most welcome. Ami Havens
Does anyone have a Joseph K. Looney that moved to Texas? Or a David Reason Looney that moved to Madison Co., Alabama? Lisa
Does Anyone Have an Elizabeth Gammon in their tree? If so please contact me at [email protected] Thank You! Lisa
I received this from another list. Please take the time to read it, and inform others. Becky [email protected] wrote: > Subject: Rip-offs of the genealogy community continues > > Good Morning, friends and cousins in the genealogy community! > > The response to the identification of the genealogy rip-off operation > in Denver last week has been tremendous with a steady stream of requests > for add'l info. > > The operation in Denver with a newly discovered "branch" in Utah is an > incarnation of the identical scheme that Halbert's used. The same form > letters, books and newsletters are being sold, and the same fake > "Crests" and other products are being created "to exacting standards". > > The new incarnation has not yet been linked financially to Halbert´s or > NUMA (Halbert parent), but the resemblance is so close, they could be > joined at the hip, operating under dba's Mountain West News Service, > Mountain Pacific News Service, and MORPHCORP. The Better Business Bureau > reports that the company has joined the BBB in January 2000, opened in > 1985, and is rated as satisfactory. A complete history of Halbert's, > courtesy of Jeff Scism (despite our surname homonyms, we ain't kin --- > he hopes!) is available at > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~blksheep/shame/halberts.htm > > Volunteers interested in assisting in informing the genealogy community > of this scam have come out of the woodwork. We would ask the recipients > of this email the following: > 1) A sample of the Colorado flyer is at > http://www.dfc.cc/CyberCousins/genfraud.jpg > Print it and post in the genealogy section at your library with > appropriate message and make announcements at your gensoc. > > 2) After you have read it, as a researcher you realize the fraud that it > is. Go to the Federal Trade Commissions website at > https://www.ftc.gov/ftc/complaint.htm and file a complaint ONLINE. For > a sample complaint and further detailed information to use, please go to > http://www.dfc.cc/CyberCousins/complaint.txt > > 3) Forward this to every list you are on. > > 4) If you are a member of NGS ([email protected]) or FGS > ([email protected]), contact those organizations and ask that they get > members motivated. Gentech, Inc. ([email protected]) has a director and > a well-known regular conference speaker in the Denver metro. I asked > them to do some local research. No response to date. > > 5) Contact every genealogy columnist whose work you read, both local and > online such as Myra Gormley ([email protected]} or Dick Eastman > ([email protected]) who was stalwart in early work on Halbert's, both > of whom, as well as others, are on this list. No response to date. > > 6} If you have rec'd a flyer yourself, please report the names and > addresses to me. We need to know all the DBAs they are using. Then > take it to the local post office and file a complaint. > > 7) If you are in the Denver area, we need search of the court house > records to determine any corporate connections. If we can make a > corporate connection, I am fairly sure the restraints placed on > Halbert's can be extended by the proper authorities. > > 8) If you are a supplier (software, services, researcher) to the > genealogy community, this type of scam effects you even more. > Contribute to the effort. > > 9)This is no small time scam. Halbert's is owned by a company named > NUMA whih in turn is owned by CENDANT. Go to > http://itjobs.cendant.com/cendant_co.html to find other Cendant > companies. You will NOT be happy with how you have been doing business > with folks like this --- I promise you. > > These scams are more likely to rip off folks less involved in genealogy > than most recipients of this msg. Most of us will recognize it for what > it is and trash it. That does not relieve us of the responsibility of > making it more difficult for these and other parasites within our > community to enjoy their ill-gotten gains. I have found far too many > that "don't want to get involved", "Didn't happen on my watch." (to use > an old Navy excuse), running from controversy and responsibility. Let > us unite in eradicating those that are behind an obvious attempt to > profit unethically from the popularity of genealogy. > > Joe Sissom