Posted as found on the web. ///Steve Looney/// ============================================================ Year: 1790 State: South Carolina County: York | Free | | White | LINE | Firstname Lastname | + 16 | Fema | Ot | Sla | SNDX | Remarks 26 | Rob+t Looney | 2 5 | 5 | | | L500 ============================================================ 1845 Territorial & State Census Tishomingo Co. Ms. Name M/F Looney, Harris 1-1 Looney, Jessee 2-6 Looney, Absolom 5-4 ============================================================ INDEX TO THE ENTRIES TRANSCRIBED FROM DR. SAMUEL OVERTON'S SIX LEDGERS Canton, Texas - 1866 - 1893 Surname Status Ledger Date Page # Looney, Ap A150 09/06/88 Looney, Columbus D169 01/04/67 Looney, W.J. E309 09/05/85 Looney, Will A170 10/20/88 ============================================================ Extract from "South Dakota's Ziebach County, History of the Prairie", published in 1982 by the Ziebach County Historical Society, Dupree, SD THE RUSSELL KECKLER FAMILY written by Russell Keckler "I worked for the Diamond A Cattle Company until 1934 when they closed out and sold all the cattle to the government. We were all laid off that fall. I went back to work in the spring of 1935, but they never operated big after that. I worked for them until May of 1941." "Some of the bosses at the Diamond A were Hans Mortenson, Bill Gilbert, BILL LOONEY, Cable Kyle, and Nels Babcock." ============================================================

Thanks so much for your reply. I had not seen the Mary Quinn and David Draper marriage before and was really bamboozled. Your explanation about another Mary Quinn is enlightening. Again, thank you. Benne ----- Original Message ----- From: <JimmyDCain@aol.com> To: <LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [LOONEY-L] Mary Quinn and David Drapper > Benne, Zachariah Cooper and Mary Ann Quinn were my 4th great grandparents > (through their daughter Lucinderalla Cooper who married John (Jack) Looney > III. > > I have never seen any records indicating that Mary [dau. of John Quinn & > Elizabeth (Betsy) Morgan] was married to a David Drapper. My records show > Mary Ann and Zachariah's marriage abt.1805, with a steady flow of children > from then through late 1820s. > > There are online GEDCOMs showing the familial linkage you asked about, but I > am sure that these are in error. For example (<A HREF="http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:880466&id=I49"> > http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:880466&id=I49</A> and <A HREF="http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=kwanja&id=I05824"> > http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=kwanja&id=I05824</A> and <A HREF="http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2074183&id=I1032287 64"> > http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2074183&id=I103228764</A> > which do show the family linkage you asked about. In addition, one (<A HREF="http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2336099&id=I5093034 47"> > http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2336099&id=I509303447</A> ) > shows a 2nd marriage to Zachariah Cooper, but with his children's birthdates > too early by several years as well as with an incomplete (and slightly > incorrect set) of children. Youngest two born AFTER the draper marriage is a > clincher (but they are not shown in this database. By all the three accounts > above, Mary Quinn would have been 57 years old when she gave birth to her > last child by Draper, with additional births at 54 & 52 & 49 & 48 -- VERY > unlikely biologically. [I will separately forward this message along with > additional backup to the folks who maintain those dbases demonstrating that > their indicated parentage of the "Mary Quinn (who married David Drapper) > must be incorrect. ] > > It is clear that a David Draper did marry a Mary Quinn in Alabama on 5 Jan > 1824. This must have definitely been a different Mary Quinn, as "our" Mary > Quinn was in the midst of having her many children by Zachariah at that date > (with two of their children [Oliver Adam Cooper and Pincney Henry Cooper] > born after the referenced Draper marriage date.) See Paul R. Sarratt, Jr's > dbase (<A HREF="http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=p rsjr&id=I318">http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op= GET& > db=prsjr&id=I318</A>) for a good set of notes demonstrating this. > > For the record, David Draper and "the other" Mary Quinn are found in the > 1830, 1840 and 1850 census records in Morgan Co., Alabama. The 1850 census > shows their full family and also clearly shows Mary's birthyear as circa 1799 > which again rules out Zachariah Cooper's Mary Quinn. The full Census record > is as follows: > David Draper ([cannot read age but could be "66"] M farmer b. Va) > Mary 51 F b. NC > William S. 38 M b. farmer VA > [Wm would have been son my a different marriage, not by Mary.] > David Q. 25 M (school teacher) AL > Richard D. 17 M (farmer) AL > Julia R. (name hard to read) 16 F AL > Nicholas W. 13 M AL (in school in last year) > Martha E. 11 F AL (in school in last year) > Cassandra 8 F AL (in school in last year) > [some ages hard to read.] > Another Draper (Walter) lived two houses down in 1850 census. > > Having established who this Mary Quinn is NOT, does anyone know who she WAS? > I.e., who were really her parents. A Quinn in Morgan Co. AL in mid 1820s (b. > about 1799) was probably related to Mary Ann Quinn / John Quinn, etc. Any > ideas? > > All the best, > Jim. > > > In a message dated 4/4/2003 4:44:21 PM Central Standard Time, > bmcdonald@txk.net writes > > > Has anyone ever seen anything showing that Mary Quinn, dau. of John Quinn > > (b. 1765) and Elizabeth Morgan was married to David Drapper? I have always > > thought she was married to Zacariah Cooper. > > > > Thanks, > > Benne in New Boston, TX > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== > If you're having problems, the listowners can be contacted via E-Mail > at EGLooney@USA.Net (Ed); JSully7@AOL.Com (Sully) or our beloved > listmistress, Pat Davis at PatLDavis@AOL.Com >

Posted as found on the web ///Steve Looney/// ============================================================ Cherokee County, TX 1850 Federal Census LN HN FN LAST NAME FIRST NAME AGE SEX RACE OCCUP. VAL. BIRTHPLACE 35 615 615 Looney P. Q. 38 M Farmer 640 S.C. 36 615 615 Looney Eliza M. 31 F TN. 37 615 615 Looney Nancy E. 10 F TN. 38 615 615 Looney Margaret I. 9 F TN. 39 615 615 Looney Sally A. 8 F TN. 40 615 615 Looney Mary R. 7 F TN. 41 615 615 Looney Martha S. 5 F TN. 42 615 615 Looney Adaline F. 3 F TN. 1 615 615 Looney Clemantine V. 5/12 F TX. 2 616 616 Looney Joseph 48 M Farmer 1,200 S.C. 3 616 616 Looney Martha 48 F GA. 4 616 616 Looney John R. 25 M Farmer 1,200 S.C. 5 616 616 Looney James C. 23 M Farmer S.C. 6 616 616 Looney Wm. W. 21 M Farmer GA. 7 616 616 Looney Sarah A. 19 F GA. 8 616 616 Looney Noah F. 16 M Farmer GA. 9 616 616 Looney Quinn C. 13 M GA. 10 616 616 Looney Frances M. 11 F GA. 11 616 616 Looney Ben P. 5 M GA. 10 624 624 Looney D. 64 M Farmer 640 GA. 11 624 624 Looney Nancy 66 F GA. 12 624 624 Looney Sarah M. 33 F N. Y. 13 624 624 Looney Mary 31 F TN. 14 624 624 Looney Noah 29 M Farmer TN. 13 657 657 Perryman Jas. 30 M Farmer 1,600 S.C. 14 657 657 Perryman Elizabeth 28 F GA. ============================================================

Benne, Zachariah Cooper and Mary Ann Quinn were my 4th great grandparents (through their daughter Lucinderalla Cooper who married John (Jack) Looney III. I have never seen any records indicating that Mary [dau. of John Quinn & Elizabeth (Betsy) Morgan] was married to a David Drapper. My records show Mary Ann and Zachariah's marriage abt.1805, with a steady flow of children from then through late 1820s. There are online GEDCOMs showing the familial linkage you asked about, but I am sure that these are in error. For example (<A HREF="http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:880466&id=I49"> http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:880466&id=I49</A> and <A HREF="http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=kwanja&id=I05824"> http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=kwanja&id=I05824</A> and <A HREF="http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2074183&id=I103228764"> http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2074183&id=I103228764</A> which do show the family linkage you asked about. In addition, one (<A HREF="http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2336099&id=I509303447"> http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2336099&id=I509303447</A>) shows a 2nd marriage to Zachariah Cooper, but with his children's birthdates too early by several years as well as with an incomplete (and slightly incorrect set) of children. Youngest two born AFTER the draper marriage is a clincher (but they are not shown in this database. By all the three accounts above, Mary Quinn would have been 57 years old when she gave birth to her last child by Draper, with additional births at 54 & 52 & 49 & 48 -- VERY unlikely biologically. [I will separately forward this message along with additional backup to the folks who maintain those dbases demonstrating that their indicated parentage of the "Mary Quinn (who married David Drapper) must be incorrect. ] It is clear that a David Draper did marry a Mary Quinn in Alabama on 5 Jan 1824. This must have definitely been a different Mary Quinn, as "our" Mary Quinn was in the midst of having her many children by Zachariah at that date (with two of their children [Oliver Adam Cooper and Pincney Henry Cooper] born after the referenced Draper marriage date.) See Paul R. Sarratt, Jr's dbase (<A HREF="http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=prsjr&id=I318">http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET& db=prsjr&id=I318</A>) for a good set of notes demonstrating this. For the record, David Draper and "the other" Mary Quinn are found in the 1830, 1840 and 1850 census records in Morgan Co., Alabama. The 1850 census shows their full family and also clearly shows Mary's birthyear as circa 1799 which again rules out Zachariah Cooper's Mary Quinn. The full Census record is as follows: David Draper ([cannot read age but could be "66"] M farmer b. Va) Mary 51 F b. NC William S. 38 M b. farmer VA [Wm would have been son my a different marriage, not by Mary.] David Q. 25 M (school teacher) AL Richard D. 17 M (farmer) AL Julia R. (name hard to read) 16 F AL Nicholas W. 13 M AL (in school in last year) Martha E. 11 F AL (in school in last year) Cassandra 8 F AL (in school in last year) [some ages hard to read.] Another Draper (Walter) lived two houses down in 1850 census. Having established who this Mary Quinn is NOT, does anyone know who she WAS? I.e., who were really her parents. A Quinn in Morgan Co. AL in mid 1820s (b. about 1799) was probably related to Mary Ann Quinn / John Quinn, etc. Any ideas? All the best, Jim. In a message dated 4/4/2003 4:44:21 PM Central Standard Time, bmcdonald@txk.net writes > Has anyone ever seen anything showing that Mary Quinn, dau. of John Quinn > (b. 1765) and Elizabeth Morgan was married to David Drapper? I have always > thought she was married to Zacariah Cooper. > > Thanks, > Benne in New Boston, TX

Posted as found on the web. ///Steve Looney/// ================================================================== 1850 Federal Census Botetourt County, Virginia; Pages 0039a - 0049b LN HN FN LAST NAME FIRST NAME AGE SEX RACE OCCUP. VAL. BIRTHPLACE 37 51 51 Looney Moses 43 M Farmer 2,500 Virginia 38 51 51 Looney Jane 40 F Virginia 39 51 51 Looney Alexander 18 M Farmer Virginia 40 51 51 Looney Nicholas 16 M Farmer Virginia 41 52 52 Looney Joseph 68 M Farmer 1,889 Virginia 42 52 52 Looney Nancy 66 F Virginia 6 53 53 Looney David 31 M Farmer 1,300 Virginia 7 53 53 Looney Mary I. 27 F Virginia 8 53 53 Looney Joseph B. 4 M Virginia 9 53 53 Looney Elizabeth A. 3 F Virginia 10 53 53 Looney Samuel I. 2/12 M Virginia 21 63 63 Looney Charlotte 43 F 500 Virginia 22 63 63 Looney Mary E. 17 F Virginia 23 63 63 Looney James M. 15 M Virginia 24 63 63 Looney William C. 13 M Virginia 22 129 129 Looney Joseph Jr. 28 M Farmer 819 Virginia 23 129 129 Looney Velvina 22 F Virginia 24 129 129 Looney Sarah M. 5 F Virginia 25 129 129 Looney Joseph B. 5 M Virginia 26 129 129 Looney Nancy L. 3 F Virginia 27 129 129 Looney Christiana E. 2 F Virginia 28 129 129 Looney John T. 1 M Virgiinia 39 146 146 Looney Henry 41 M Farmer 900 Virginia 40 146 146 Looney Nancy 35 F Virginia ==================================================================

Has anyone ever seen anything showing that Mary Quinn, dau. of John Quinn (b. 1765) and Elizabeth Morgan was married to David Drapper? I have always thought she was married to Zacariah Cooper. Thanks, Benne in New Boston, TX

For those of you interested in the Cherokee, here is a web site that currently contains two Volumes of the Cherokee Phoenix. http://www.wcu.edu/library/CherokeePhoenix/Index.htm There is also a search function where you can search on key words, like, "Black Fox", "Loony" (as in John Loony), "Enoli", "George Guess", etc.

Jim, I have probably seen about every scrap of documented evidence there is on this Cherokee Chief John Looney. Miss. Elizabeth Looney had collected quite a bit of information on him in her attempt to see if he collected to the Looney family. The absolute best I have seen so far on his ancestry is that he was the nephew of Chief Enoli, sometimes known as Black Fox. (Not to be confused with William Bauch Looney of the Northern Alabama Looney's who picked up this same nick name during the Civil War.) As of this point in time I have not seen anything that would indicate who this Cherokee John Looney's parents were or how he came about using the name of Looney. His pension papers (wounded in the Creek Wars), his land claim (reservation) in Northern Alabama, his sisters eviction from his reservation in Northern Alabama, his widows (Betty Webber) pension and land claim, his obituary, etc., absolutely nothing tells us who his parents were. We know a lot about him personally, but nothing about who his parents were. You will see unfounded and unproven claims that he was a Robert (1) Looney family descendant, but this is nothing more than hopeful speculation and pure guesswork. I too am a descendant of Capt. John Looney and Elizabeth Renfro down through their son Moses Looney. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: <JimmyDCain@aol.com> To: <LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [LOONEY-L] Looney confusion Larry, I also would very much like to obtain a copy of the document you referenced to Melinda -- as I'm sure would many others on the LOONEY-L list. If you find and are able to scan Stewart Parks' document, perhaps you could post it on your website for viewers to review and/or download -- with a note o LOONEY-L list of its availability. I'm most interested in running down the ancestry of Western Cherokee Chief John Looney. I realize that everyone who has looked at this seems to have run into dead ends. Nonetheless, I am most curious as to where his name "Looney" came from. Oh well, it is a challenge <grin>. Thanks in advance, Jim (descendant of Capt John Looney and Elizabeth Renfro) JohnsonL@flash.nt writes, in part: > Descendants of Benjamin Looney and Mary Johnson were known to have married > native Americans of the Cherokee tribe. I communicated many years ago with > an individual by the name of Stewart Parks. He was a descendant of this > line and he had a pretty thorough document that his Aunt or Grandmother had > put together along with two other individuals of that line. I'm sure they > communicated and shared information with Miss. Elizabeth Looney when they > were putting this document together. If you are interested, I will see if > I can dig out this document and scan it into a format that I can share. > > Larry > ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== If you find a web page somewhere listing Manx, Irish or Scotch surnames and they don't include LOONEY/LUNA/etc., send them a note to let them know we're around. The more advertising we have, the more help we get.

Larry,  I also would very much like to obtain a copy of the document you referenced to Melinda -- as I'm sure would many others on the LOONEY-L list. If you find and are able to scan Stewart Parks' document, perhaps you could post it on your website for viewers to review and/or download -- with a note o LOONEY-L list of its availability. I'm most interested in running down the ancestry of Western Cherokee Chief John Looney. I realize that everyone who has looked at this seems to have run into dead ends.  Nonetheless, I am most curious as to where his name "Looney" came from. Oh well, it is a challenge <grin>. Thanks in advance, Jim (descendant of Capt John Looney and Elizabeth Renfro) JohnsonL@flash.nt writes, in part: > Descendants of Benjamin Looney and Mary Johnson were known to have married > native Americans of the Cherokee tribe.  I communicated many years ago with > an individual by the name of Stewart Parks.  He was a descendant of this > line and he had a pretty thorough document that his Aunt or Grandmother had > put together along with two other individuals of that line.  I'm sure they > communicated and shared information with Miss. Elizabeth Looney when they > were putting this document together.   If you are interested, I will see if > I can dig out this document and scan it into a format that I can share. > > Larry >

For those of you searching Missouri and Arkansas Looney's click on this link and search for the word Looney: http://thelibrary.springfield.missouri.org/lochist/periodicals/OzarksWatch/qow.htm Several articles will come up with the Looney family name in them. One article mentions the name Judith McClung Richardson, Evelyn Looney and Bettie Hickman who put together "The History of the Looney Family of Greene County, Missouri (1985)". This history tells of one branch of Benjamin Looney's descendants.

Larry: I would really like to know the story on Anny Littlefoot/feet wife of Isham/Isam Looney. Seems such a mystery. Have been told all my life, she was Chickasaw Indian. I really don't know where to look or if it is too late to find the information. The notes Elizabeth Looney gave me always said she was Chickasaw. The families who came along with the Looneys to St. Clair County, Missouri were the Copenhavers and the Talleys. Their daughter married Thomas Copenhaver. Both families came from Indian Territory Alabama - Jackson County. Two of their sons married Talley girls. There was one story I was told that the Looney's children went to Oklahoma to receive land promised. John C. Looney, my GGGrandfather was buried at Appleton City, MO, however his wife Sarah (Sally) Talley Looney was buried near Monegaw Springs, MO. If your research on the Indian families among the Looneys included Anny - I would be interested to know. GGGGranddaughter of Isham/Isam & Annie/Anny Looney Judy Chapman Frisch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Johnson" <JohnsonL@flash.net> To: <LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 12:55 AM Subject: Re: [LOONEY-L] Looney confusion > The Anthony Stewart Looney (b. Oct 29, 1825) that you mention was the son of > Benjamin Looney b. Jan 31, 1796 in Hawkins Co., TN and ? Holder, he was the > grandson to Benjamin Looney b. 1772 and Mary Galbrath, and he was the great > grandson of Benjamin Looney and Mary Johnson. > > Descendants of Benjamin Looney and Mary Johnson were known to have married > native Americans of the Cherokee tribe. I communicated many years ago with > an individual by the name of Stewart Parks. He was a descendant of this > line and he had a pretty thorough document that his Aunt or Grandmother had > put together along with two other individuals of that line. I'm sure they > communicated and shared information with Miss. Elizabeth Looney when they > were putting this document together. If you are interested, I will see if > I can dig out this document and scan it into a format that I can share. > > Larry > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "melinda roberts" <jeepers-ct@chouteautel.com> > To: <LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 8:01 PM > Subject: Re: [LOONEY-L] Looney confusion > > > > Judy, > > > > Thank-you for such a quick response....I did not mean to write > > Blackfoot...you are right it is Littlefoot. I have been working on the > > Looney's that left Alabama and went into Missouri...and went into Greene > Co. > > Mo. then into Camden Co. Family history says that the Looney's were > > Blackfoot indian..I had Blackfoot on the brain. Do you suppose that Isam > and > > Annie were removed from Alabama during the Removal.?... > > > > I am not a Looney descendant, but wish I were...I have been working with a > > co-worker Ron Looney of Oklahoma and a friend Steven D. Looney of > Michigan. > > The Looney's have such a rich history...and are such a wonderful family... > I > > have just enjoyed this family so much... > > > > Steven and Ron's line is this: > > > > Robert Looney Sr..... born 1692 > > Robert Looney Jr.....Born 1721 > > Benjamin Looney.....Born 1756 > > Isham Looney.....Born 1775 or Benjamin Looney Born 1772 (not sure which > yet) > > Benjamin Looney .....Born abt. 1796 > > Anthony Stewart Looney.....Born 1825 > > > > Ron descends from Anthony's son Isaac Looney > > Steven descends from Anthony's son Jessie Calvin Looney > > > > Benjamin Looney born abt 1796 was in Greene Co. Mo in 1850 and Franklin > Co. > > Tn in 1830 can't place him in 1840.Sometime between this his wife passed > > away because he is with just his children in 1850. This Benjamin could not > > have been married to Samantha Holder because she was alive in 1870 without > > husband in Grayson co Texas. But since Benjamin is living by Solomon > Holder > > in 1830 and 1850 I assume he married one of his daughters... > > this also could be the Benjamin on the 1819 petition....I do believe that > > the Benjamin Looney III son of Benjamin Looney and Benjamin Looney son of > > Isham have been had information mixed up on over and over again....The > > Tilton Manuscripts are not quite clear on these two...My logic was if I > > could find Isham's Will it would prove whether or not Benjamin was alive > > when Isham was in MO or had died in Alabama. What years did you say the > > Court Notice was? If it lists heirs this may be the proof I need... > > > > Thank-you for sharing your information with me....it was well appreciated > > Melinda Roberts > > > > It is great to hear that the "Old Liberty Cemetery" is being taken care > of, > > this is > > what genealogy is about, Preserving our Heritage. > > > > Best wishes to everyone > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dennis D. Frisch <frisch@iland.net> > > To: LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com <LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com> > > Date: Monday, March 17, 2003 7:41 PM > > Subject: Re: [LOONEY-L] Looney confusion > > > > > > >Melinda: To my knowledge there is not a will however there is a law suit > > >after Isham passed away. In this law suit it lists the heirs of Isham. > > > > > >I am interested in where you got your information Annie Blackfoot/feet > > >instead of Littlefoot/feet? I have never heard that before. > > > > > >Sorry to say I have not time right now as I am opening a little shop > early > > >next month. Someone else here on line will probably answer your > questions. > > >However if they don't give me your address and I will mail you a copy. > > > > > >My line is as follows: Judy Chapman Frisch, Mother: Catherine Christine > > >Shepherd Chapman, her father Benjamin Cleveland Shepherd, his mother Mary > > >Jane Looney Shepherd, her father John C. Looney and his father Isham > > Looney, > > >his father Benjamin Looney, his father Robert Looney Jr., his father > Robert > > >Looney Sr. > > > > > >Your cousins have been working the last two years on the cemetery where > > >Isham and Anny are buried. We just had it fenced and now Isam and Anny > > have > > >a new stone. The other ancestors buried there are getting their stones > > >straightened. This is the "Old Liberty Cemetery" > > > > > >Isham's father was killed in Indian War at Cumberland Gap, East Tenn. > > >according to Tilton and according to P.Price killed 1783 at Cumberland > Gap. > > >This is on the notes I received from Elizabeth Looney in Washington DC in > > >about 1990. Therre are references to "The Stevenson Story" Also Mrs. > May > > >Stevens. In Miss Looney's papers she has Benjamin Sr. born 1756 and died > > >1783, had Benjamin (4) born about 1774 died before 1830 and married Mary > > >Polly Galbraith, then next son John (4) Looney B 1776, living in 1830 > > >married Mary Garrison. third son Isham (4) Looney B 26 Oct 1775 Tenn > > >Justice of Peace Jackson County Alabama according to Eliza Tindall's > > >Stevenson Story. He died Sept 1850. married Anne/Annie/Anny Littlefoot > A > > >Chickasaw Indian B 1781 in VA also born 12/27/1780 She was a widow in > St. > > >Clair Co. MO in 1860 Died 1/13/1862 both buried in Old Liberty Cemetery, > > St. > > >Clair Co. MO 4th son Robert (4) Looney, born 1780 died before Nov 20 > 1830 > > >In 1830 census of Hawkins Co., Tenn there is a widow Margaret Looney with > 1 > > >dau & 1 son who may have been widow of this Robert then Miss Looney has > a > > >note NO this Margaaret was daughter of Ben (3) & Mary Johnson Looney, 5th > > >son Absolem Looney, B 1782 Tenn, died 1860 Boissier Paris La Md 1803 > Nancy > > >Long Md Eleanor Nellie Wilson 1818 > > > > > >There is Possibly a 6th son per Prentiss price Jesse (4) Looney to whom > > >Isom (4) Looney made a deed for 72 acres in STanley Valley on 10 August > > 1802 > > >being a part of the tract that the Widow Looney then lived on. > > > > > >Miss Looney's notes were a great find, actually she dropped them in my > lap. > > >She so loved her Looney family. > > > > > >I am sorry to say I have not checked out these facts however her > genealogy > > >has matched all I find so far. > > > > > >In Miss Looney's notes on Isam/Anny's son Benjamin (5) Looney she said he > > >was born 5 Nov 1804 rather young but this could be the petitioner of 1819 > > in > > >Ala possibly the Benj who later married Samantha Holder. > > > > > >The Court Notice is all I have a Civil Action. On the Estate of Isam > > >Looney. Ann Looney, Jesse Looney, John C. Looney, Allen Looney, Thomas > > >Copenhaver and Nancy Copenhaver, Arthur Mathews and Mary Mathews and > Sally > > >Canada, plaintiffs, agains William G. Looney, Elizabeth Paine, Edward W. > > >Looney, Mary J. Looney, Sarah Looney, William Looney, George Wolaver and > > >Anna Wolaver and John Crumb and Elizabeth Crumb defendants. > > > > > >This is all I have. Judy Chapman Frisch, GGGGranddaughter of Isam & Anny > > >Looney > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "melinda roberts" <jeepers-ct@chouteautel.com> > > >To: <LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com> > > >Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 5:35 PM > > >Subject: [LOONEY-L] Looney confusion > > > > > > > > >> Would any one on this list have information on Isham Looney son of > > >Benjamin Looney and Mary Johnson, who married Annie Blackfoot/feet > > >> > > >> Benjamin Looney and Mary Johnson had son's Isham and Benjamin. Both of > > >these brothers has son's named Benjamin, I believe these sons both > married > > >HOLDER woman....One to the daughter of Bledsoe Holder and one to the > > >daughter of Solomon Holder. These two Benjamins have been confused over > and > > >over again,,,and I am trying to get them straightened up... > > >> > > >> Supposedly Isham's son Benjamin died in Alabama in the 1830's (maybe or > > >maybe not). If I could find the Will of Isham Looney which is on file I > > have > > >heard in St. Clair County MO. it might clear this up.... > > >> > > >> Thank you for the help > > >> Melinda Roberts > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== > > >> See our HomePages at > > >> http://Members.AOL.Com/jsully7 (Descendants of Robert Lunney) > or > > >> http://www.Flash.Net/~johnsonl (Includes Leroy W. Tilton's work) > or > > >> http://Welcome.to/TheLooneyFamily (Elsie Stroud's Works) > or > > >> http://www.mindspring.com/~mozark (William(4) and NE AR & SE MO > > Looneys) > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > >==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== > > >Were there 12 brothers that arrived in Boston from Ireland in the 1850s? > > > Help us find them. Robert's family isn't the only LOONEYs out there! > > > And, other Manx LOONEYs who came later than Robert are on our list! > > > > > > > > > ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== > > Was "John" Robert's father? or brother? Was Robert's wife Elizabeth? Was > > she a Stover or Llewellen? Was John's wife also a Llewellen (did sisters > > marry brothers?)? How many of Robert's siblings and neices/nephews came > > to America, too? Help us solve these mysteries today on the LOONEY list. > > > > > ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== > See our HomePages at > http://Members.AOL.Com/jsully7 (Descendants of Robert Lunney) or > http://www.Flash.Net/~johnsonl (Includes Leroy W. Tilton's work) or > http://Welcome.to/TheLooneyFamily (Elsie Stroud's Works) or > http://www.mindspring.com/~mozark (William(4) and NE AR & SE MO Looneys) > > >

Is it possible to share all the information online between us? I am also descended from the Cherokee Looney's---i do have some information, not a lot, but a man from Oklahoma, John Strange, who was a genealogist for the Cherokees had loads of info. This has been several years ago, I don't know where he is now, or even if he is still alive. but if anyone else knows about him, maybe we could all find out something. I am interested in finding the point where the IOM Looney married the Cherokee woman......exactly which one it was. Thanks beverly birdwell ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Johnson Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 11:04 PM To: LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LOONEY-L] Looney confusion The Anthony Stewart Looney (b. Oct 29, 1825) that you mention was the son of Benjamin Looney b. Jan 31, 1796 in Hawkins Co., TN and ? Holder, he was the grandson to Benjamin Looney b. 1772 and Mary Galbrath, and he was the great grandson of Benjamin Looney and Mary Johnson. Descendants of Benjamin Looney and Mary Johnson were known to have married native Americans of the Cherokee tribe. I communicated many years ago with an individual by the name of Stewart Parks. He was a descendant of this line and he had a pretty thorough document that his Aunt or Grandmother had put together along with two other individuals of that line. I'm sure they communicated and shared information with Miss. Elizabeth Looney when they were putting this document together. If you are interested, I will see if I can dig out this document and scan it into a format that I can share. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "melinda roberts" <jeepers-ct@chouteautel.com> To: <LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 8:01 PM Subject: Re: [LOONEY-L] Looney confusion > Judy, > > Thank-you for such a quick response....I did not mean to write > Blackfoot...you are right it is Littlefoot. I have been working on the > Looney's that left Alabama and went into Missouri...and went into Greene Co. > Mo. then into Camden Co. Family history says that the Looney's were > Blackfoot indian..I had Blackfoot on the brain. Do you suppose that Isam and > Annie were removed from Alabama during the Removal.?... > > I am not a Looney descendant, but wish I were...I have been working with a > co-worker Ron Looney of Oklahoma and a friend Steven D. Looney of Michigan. > The Looney's have such a rich history...and are such a wonderful family... I > have just enjoyed this family so much... > > Steven and Ron's line is this: > > Robert Looney Sr..... born 1692 > Robert Looney Jr.....Born 1721 > Benjamin Looney.....Born 1756 > Isham Looney.....Born 1775 or Benjamin Looney Born 1772 (not sure which yet) > Benjamin Looney .....Born abt. 1796 > Anthony Stewart Looney.....Born 1825 > > Ron descends from Anthony's son Isaac Looney > Steven descends from Anthony's son Jessie Calvin Looney > > Benjamin Looney born abt 1796 was in Greene Co. Mo in 1850 and Franklin Co. > Tn in 1830 can't place him in 1840.Sometime between this his wife passed > away because he is with just his children in 1850. This Benjamin could not > have been married to Samantha Holder because she was alive in 1870 without > husband in Grayson co Texas. But since Benjamin is living by Solomon Holder > in 1830 and 1850 I assume he married one of his daughters... > this also could be the Benjamin on the 1819 petition....I do believe that > the Benjamin Looney III son of Benjamin Looney and Benjamin Looney son of > Isham have been had information mixed up on over and over again....The > Tilton Manuscripts are not quite clear on these two...My logic was if I > could find Isham's Will it would prove whether or not Benjamin was alive > when Isham was in MO or had died in Alabama. What years did you say the > Court Notice was? If it lists heirs this may be the proof I need... > > Thank-you for sharing your information with me....it was well appreciated > Melinda Roberts > > It is great to hear that the "Old Liberty Cemetery" is being taken care of, > this is > what genealogy is about, Preserving our Heritage. > > Best wishes to everyone > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dennis D. Frisch <frisch@iland.net> > To: LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com <LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Monday, March 17, 2003 7:41 PM > Subject: Re: [LOONEY-L] Looney confusion > > > >Melinda: To my knowledge there is not a will however there is a law suit > >after Isham passed away. In this law suit it lists the heirs of Isham. > > > >I am interested in where you got your information Annie Blackfoot/feet > >instead of Littlefoot/feet? I have never heard that before. > > > >Sorry to say I have not time right now as I am opening a little shop early > >next month. Someone else here on line will probably answer your questions. > >However if they don't give me your address and I will mail you a copy. > > > >My line is as follows: Judy Chapman Frisch, Mother: Catherine Christine > >Shepherd Chapman, her father Benjamin Cleveland Shepherd, his mother Mary > >Jane Looney Shepherd, her father John C. Looney and his father Isham > Looney, > >his father Benjamin Looney, his father Robert Looney Jr., his father Robert > >Looney Sr. > > > >Your cousins have been working the last two years on the cemetery where > >Isham and Anny are buried. We just had it fenced and now Isam and Anny > have > >a new stone. The other ancestors buried there are getting their stones > >straightened. This is the "Old Liberty Cemetery" > > > >Isham's father was killed in Indian War at Cumberland Gap, East Tenn. > >according to Tilton and according to P.Price killed 1783 at Cumberland Gap. > >This is on the notes I received from Elizabeth Looney in Washington DC in > >about 1990. Therre are references to "The Stevenson Story" Also Mrs. May > >Stevens. In Miss Looney's papers she has Benjamin Sr. born 1756 and died > >1783, had Benjamin (4) born about 1774 died before 1830 and married Mary > >Polly Galbraith, then next son John (4) Looney B 1776, living in 1830 > >married Mary Garrison. third son Isham (4) Looney B 26 Oct 1775 Tenn > >Justice of Peace Jackson County Alabama according to Eliza Tindall's > >Stevenson Story. He died Sept 1850. married Anne/Annie/Anny Littlefoot A > >Chickasaw Indian B 1781 in VA also born 12/27/1780 She was a widow in St. > >Clair Co. MO in 1860 Died 1/13/1862 both buried in Old Liberty Cemetery, > St. > >Clair Co. MO 4th son Robert (4) Looney, born 1780 died before Nov 20 1830 > >In 1830 census of Hawkins Co., Tenn there is a widow Margaret Looney with 1 > >dau & 1 son who may have been widow of this Robert then Miss Looney has a > >note NO this Margaaret was daughter of Ben (3) & Mary Johnson Looney, 5th > >son Absolem Looney, B 1782 Tenn, died 1860 Boissier Paris La Md 1803 Nancy > >Long Md Eleanor Nellie Wilson 1818 > > > >There is Possibly a 6th son per Prentiss price Jesse (4) Looney to whom > >Isom (4) Looney made a deed for 72 acres in STanley Valley on 10 August > 1802 > >being a part of the tract that the Widow Looney then lived on. > > > >Miss Looney's notes were a great find, actually she dropped them in my lap. > >She so loved her Looney family. > > > >I am sorry to say I have not checked out these facts however her genealogy > >has matched all I find so far. > > > >In Miss Looney's notes on Isam/Anny's son Benjamin (5) Looney she said he > >was born 5 Nov 1804 rather young but this could be the petitioner of 1819 > in > >Ala possibly the Benj who later married Samantha Holder. > > > >The Court Notice is all I have a Civil Action. On the Estate of Isam > >Looney. Ann Looney, Jesse Looney, John C. Looney, Allen Looney, Thomas > >Copenhaver and Nancy Copenhaver, Arthur Mathews and Mary Mathews and Sally > >Canada, plaintiffs, agains William G. Looney, Elizabeth Paine, Edward W. > >Looney, Mary J. Looney, Sarah Looney, William Looney, George Wolaver and > >Anna Wolaver and John Crumb and Elizabeth Crumb defendants. > > > >This is all I have. Judy Chapman Frisch, GGGGranddaughter of Isam & Anny > >Looney > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "melinda roberts" <jeepers-ct@chouteautel.com> > >To: <LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 5:35 PM > >Subject: [LOONEY-L] Looney confusion > > > > > >> Would any one on this list have information on Isham Looney son of > >Benjamin Looney and Mary Johnson, who married Annie Blackfoot/feet > >> > >> Benjamin Looney and Mary Johnson had son's Isham and Benjamin. Both of > >these brothers has son's named Benjamin, I believe these sons both married > >HOLDER woman....One to the daughter of Bledsoe Holder and one to the > >daughter of Solomon Holder. These two Benjamins have been confused over and > >over again,,,and I am trying to get them straightened up... > >> > >> Supposedly Isham's son Benjamin died in Alabama in the 1830's (maybe or > >maybe not). If I could find the Will of Isham Looney which is on file I > have > >heard in St. Clair County MO. it might clear this up.... > >> > >> Thank you for the help > >> Melinda Roberts > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== > >> See our HomePages at > >> http://Members.AOL.Com/jsully7 (Descendants of Robert Lunney) or > >> http://www.Flash.Net/~johnsonl (Includes Leroy W. Tilton's work) or > >> http://Welcome.to/TheLooneyFamily (Elsie Stroud's Works) or > >> http://www.mindspring.com/~mozark (William(4) and NE AR & SE MO > Looneys) > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== > >Were there 12 brothers that arrived in Boston from Ireland in the 1850s? > > Help us find them. Robert's family isn't the only LOONEYs out there! > > And, other Manx LOONEYs who came later than Robert are on our list! > > > > > ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== > Was "John" Robert's father? or brother? Was Robert's wife Elizabeth? Was > she a Stover or Llewellen? Was John's wife also a Llewellen (did sisters > marry brothers?)? How many of Robert's siblings and neices/nephews came > to America, too? Help us solve these mysteries today on the LOONEY list. > ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== See our HomePages at http://Members.AOL.Com/jsully7 (Descendants of Robert Lunney) or http://www.Flash.Net/~johnsonl (Includes Leroy W. Tilton's work) or http://Welcome.to/TheLooneyFamily (Elsie Stroud's Works) or http://www.mindspring.com/~mozark (William(4) and NE AR & SE MO Looneys)

Larry, I am very interested in the information you have...If you would share that information I with be indebted to you. Later descendents still talk about the Looney's living on Indian land... You are very kind... Melinda

The Anthony Stewart Looney (b. Oct 29, 1825) that you mention was the son of Benjamin Looney b. Jan 31, 1796 in Hawkins Co., TN and ? Holder, he was the grandson to Benjamin Looney b. 1772 and Mary Galbrath, and he was the great grandson of Benjamin Looney and Mary Johnson. Descendants of Benjamin Looney and Mary Johnson were known to have married native Americans of the Cherokee tribe. I communicated many years ago with an individual by the name of Stewart Parks. He was a descendant of this line and he had a pretty thorough document that his Aunt or Grandmother had put together along with two other individuals of that line. I'm sure they communicated and shared information with Miss. Elizabeth Looney when they were putting this document together. If you are interested, I will see if I can dig out this document and scan it into a format that I can share. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "melinda roberts" <jeepers-ct@chouteautel.com> To: <LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 8:01 PM Subject: Re: [LOONEY-L] Looney confusion > Judy, > > Thank-you for such a quick response....I did not mean to write > Blackfoot...you are right it is Littlefoot. I have been working on the > Looney's that left Alabama and went into Missouri...and went into Greene Co. > Mo. then into Camden Co. Family history says that the Looney's were > Blackfoot indian..I had Blackfoot on the brain. Do you suppose that Isam and > Annie were removed from Alabama during the Removal.?... > > I am not a Looney descendant, but wish I were...I have been working with a > co-worker Ron Looney of Oklahoma and a friend Steven D. Looney of Michigan. > The Looney's have such a rich history...and are such a wonderful family... I > have just enjoyed this family so much... > > Steven and Ron's line is this: > > Robert Looney Sr..... born 1692 > Robert Looney Jr.....Born 1721 > Benjamin Looney.....Born 1756 > Isham Looney.....Born 1775 or Benjamin Looney Born 1772 (not sure which yet) > Benjamin Looney .....Born abt. 1796 > Anthony Stewart Looney.....Born 1825 > > Ron descends from Anthony's son Isaac Looney > Steven descends from Anthony's son Jessie Calvin Looney > > Benjamin Looney born abt 1796 was in Greene Co. Mo in 1850 and Franklin Co. > Tn in 1830 can't place him in 1840.Sometime between this his wife passed > away because he is with just his children in 1850. This Benjamin could not > have been married to Samantha Holder because she was alive in 1870 without > husband in Grayson co Texas. But since Benjamin is living by Solomon Holder > in 1830 and 1850 I assume he married one of his daughters... > this also could be the Benjamin on the 1819 petition....I do believe that > the Benjamin Looney III son of Benjamin Looney and Benjamin Looney son of > Isham have been had information mixed up on over and over again....The > Tilton Manuscripts are not quite clear on these two...My logic was if I > could find Isham's Will it would prove whether or not Benjamin was alive > when Isham was in MO or had died in Alabama. What years did you say the > Court Notice was? If it lists heirs this may be the proof I need... > > Thank-you for sharing your information with me....it was well appreciated > Melinda Roberts > > It is great to hear that the "Old Liberty Cemetery" is being taken care of, > this is > what genealogy is about, Preserving our Heritage. > > Best wishes to everyone > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dennis D. Frisch <frisch@iland.net> > To: LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com <LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Monday, March 17, 2003 7:41 PM > Subject: Re: [LOONEY-L] Looney confusion > > > >Melinda: To my knowledge there is not a will however there is a law suit > >after Isham passed away. In this law suit it lists the heirs of Isham. > > > >I am interested in where you got your information Annie Blackfoot/feet > >instead of Littlefoot/feet? I have never heard that before. > > > >Sorry to say I have not time right now as I am opening a little shop early > >next month. Someone else here on line will probably answer your questions. > >However if they don't give me your address and I will mail you a copy. > > > >My line is as follows: Judy Chapman Frisch, Mother: Catherine Christine > >Shepherd Chapman, her father Benjamin Cleveland Shepherd, his mother Mary > >Jane Looney Shepherd, her father John C. Looney and his father Isham > Looney, > >his father Benjamin Looney, his father Robert Looney Jr., his father Robert > >Looney Sr. > > > >Your cousins have been working the last two years on the cemetery where > >Isham and Anny are buried. We just had it fenced and now Isam and Anny > have > >a new stone. The other ancestors buried there are getting their stones > >straightened. This is the "Old Liberty Cemetery" > > > >Isham's father was killed in Indian War at Cumberland Gap, East Tenn. > >according to Tilton and according to P.Price killed 1783 at Cumberland Gap. > >This is on the notes I received from Elizabeth Looney in Washington DC in > >about 1990. Therre are references to "The Stevenson Story" Also Mrs. May > >Stevens. In Miss Looney's papers she has Benjamin Sr. born 1756 and died > >1783, had Benjamin (4) born about 1774 died before 1830 and married Mary > >Polly Galbraith, then next son John (4) Looney B 1776, living in 1830 > >married Mary Garrison. third son Isham (4) Looney B 26 Oct 1775 Tenn > >Justice of Peace Jackson County Alabama according to Eliza Tindall's > >Stevenson Story. He died Sept 1850. married Anne/Annie/Anny Littlefoot A > >Chickasaw Indian B 1781 in VA also born 12/27/1780 She was a widow in St. > >Clair Co. MO in 1860 Died 1/13/1862 both buried in Old Liberty Cemetery, > St. > >Clair Co. MO 4th son Robert (4) Looney, born 1780 died before Nov 20 1830 > >In 1830 census of Hawkins Co., Tenn there is a widow Margaret Looney with 1 > >dau & 1 son who may have been widow of this Robert then Miss Looney has a > >note NO this Margaaret was daughter of Ben (3) & Mary Johnson Looney, 5th > >son Absolem Looney, B 1782 Tenn, died 1860 Boissier Paris La Md 1803 Nancy > >Long Md Eleanor Nellie Wilson 1818 > > > >There is Possibly a 6th son per Prentiss price Jesse (4) Looney to whom > >Isom (4) Looney made a deed for 72 acres in STanley Valley on 10 August > 1802 > >being a part of the tract that the Widow Looney then lived on. > > > >Miss Looney's notes were a great find, actually she dropped them in my lap. > >She so loved her Looney family. > > > >I am sorry to say I have not checked out these facts however her genealogy > >has matched all I find so far. > > > >In Miss Looney's notes on Isam/Anny's son Benjamin (5) Looney she said he > >was born 5 Nov 1804 rather young but this could be the petitioner of 1819 > in > >Ala possibly the Benj who later married Samantha Holder. > > > >The Court Notice is all I have a Civil Action. On the Estate of Isam > >Looney. Ann Looney, Jesse Looney, John C. Looney, Allen Looney, Thomas > >Copenhaver and Nancy Copenhaver, Arthur Mathews and Mary Mathews and Sally > >Canada, plaintiffs, agains William G. Looney, Elizabeth Paine, Edward W. > >Looney, Mary J. Looney, Sarah Looney, William Looney, George Wolaver and > >Anna Wolaver and John Crumb and Elizabeth Crumb defendants. > > > >This is all I have. Judy Chapman Frisch, GGGGranddaughter of Isam & Anny > >Looney > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "melinda roberts" <jeepers-ct@chouteautel.com> > >To: <LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 5:35 PM > >Subject: [LOONEY-L] Looney confusion > > > > > >> Would any one on this list have information on Isham Looney son of > >Benjamin Looney and Mary Johnson, who married Annie Blackfoot/feet > >> > >> Benjamin Looney and Mary Johnson had son's Isham and Benjamin. Both of > >these brothers has son's named Benjamin, I believe these sons both married > >HOLDER woman....One to the daughter of Bledsoe Holder and one to the > >daughter of Solomon Holder. These two Benjamins have been confused over and > >over again,,,and I am trying to get them straightened up... > >> > >> Supposedly Isham's son Benjamin died in Alabama in the 1830's (maybe or > >maybe not). If I could find the Will of Isham Looney which is on file I > have > >heard in St. Clair County MO. it might clear this up.... > >> > >> Thank you for the help > >> Melinda Roberts > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== > >> See our HomePages at > >> http://Members.AOL.Com/jsully7 (Descendants of Robert Lunney) or > >> http://www.Flash.Net/~johnsonl (Includes Leroy W. Tilton's work) or > >> http://Welcome.to/TheLooneyFamily (Elsie Stroud's Works) or > >> http://www.mindspring.com/~mozark (William(4) and NE AR & SE MO > Looneys) > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== > >Were there 12 brothers that arrived in Boston from Ireland in the 1850s? > > Help us find them. Robert's family isn't the only LOONEYs out there! > > And, other Manx LOONEYs who came later than Robert are on our list! > > > > > ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== > Was "John" Robert's father? or brother? Was Robert's wife Elizabeth? Was > she a Stover or Llewellen? Was John's wife also a Llewellen (did sisters > marry brothers?)? How many of Robert's siblings and neices/nephews came > to America, too? Help us solve these mysteries today on the LOONEY list. >

The court record was after Isham had died- date on paper is Nov 2, 1853. Ron and Steve are lucky they have someone doing the work for them? Tell them I may write them sometime for a donation on the cemetery. I think one of their cousins Robert Reddick descendant of Benjamin D. Looney has been helping monetarily. His line comes from Camden Co also. Near Linn Creek. i am not sure where you get Blackfoot Indians? I have never heard anything other than Chickasaw for Annie and the Looneys were from Isle of Man, O'Looney, O'Luney, Luney, Loney and many other spellings. Some married Cherokee but never heard of Blackfoot? Blackfoot? Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: "melinda roberts" <jeepers-ct@chouteautel.com> To: <LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 8:01 PM Subject: Re: [LOONEY-L] Looney confusion > Judy, > > Thank-you for such a quick response....I did not mean to write > Blackfoot...you are right it is Littlefoot. I have been working on the > Looney's that left Alabama and went into Missouri...and went into Greene Co. > Mo. then into Camden Co. Family history says that the Looney's were > Blackfoot indian..I had Blackfoot on the brain. Do you suppose that Isam and > Annie were removed from Alabama during the Removal.?... > > I am not a Looney descendant, but wish I were...I have been working with a > co-worker Ron Looney of Oklahoma and a friend Steven D. Looney of Michigan. > The Looney's have such a rich history...and are such a wonderful family... I > have just enjoyed this family so much... > > Steven and Ron's line is this: > > Robert Looney Sr..... born 1692 > Robert Looney Jr.....Born 1721 > Benjamin Looney.....Born 1756 > Isham Looney.....Born 1775 or Benjamin Looney Born 1772 (not sure which yet) > Benjamin Looney .....Born abt. 1796 > Anthony Stewart Looney.....Born 1825 > > Ron descends from Anthony's son Isaac Looney > Steven descends from Anthony's son Jessie Calvin Looney > > Benjamin Looney born abt 1796 was in Greene Co. Mo in 1850 and Franklin Co. > Tn in 1830 can't place him in 1840.Sometime between this his wife passed > away because he is with just his children in 1850. This Benjamin could not > have been married to Samantha Holder because she was alive in 1870 without > husband in Grayson co Texas. But since Benjamin is living by Solomon Holder > in 1830 and 1850 I assume he married one of his daughters... > this also could be the Benjamin on the 1819 petition....I do believe that > the Benjamin Looney III son of Benjamin Looney and Benjamin Looney son of > Isham have been had information mixed up on over and over again....The > Tilton Manuscripts are not quite clear on these two...My logic was if I > could find Isham's Will it would prove whether or not Benjamin was alive > when Isham was in MO or had died in Alabama. What years did you say the > Court Notice was? If it lists heirs this may be the proof I need... > > Thank-you for sharing your information with me....it was well appreciated > Melinda Roberts > > It is great to hear that the "Old Liberty Cemetery" is being taken care of, > this is > what genealogy is about, Preserving our Heritage. > > Best wishes to everyone > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dennis D. Frisch <frisch@iland.net> > To: LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com <LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Monday, March 17, 2003 7:41 PM > Subject: Re: [LOONEY-L] Looney confusion > > > >Melinda: To my knowledge there is not a will however there is a law suit > >after Isham passed away. In this law suit it lists the heirs of Isham. > > > >I am interested in where you got your information Annie Blackfoot/feet > >instead of Littlefoot/feet? I have never heard that before. > > > >Sorry to say I have not time right now as I am opening a little shop early > >next month. Someone else here on line will probably answer your questions. > >However if they don't give me your address and I will mail you a copy. > > > >My line is as follows: Judy Chapman Frisch, Mother: Catherine Christine > >Shepherd Chapman, her father Benjamin Cleveland Shepherd, his mother Mary > >Jane Looney Shepherd, her father John C. Looney and his father Isham > Looney, > >his father Benjamin Looney, his father Robert Looney Jr., his father Robert > >Looney Sr. > > > >Your cousins have been working the last two years on the cemetery where > >Isham and Anny are buried. We just had it fenced and now Isam and Anny > have > >a new stone. The other ancestors buried there are getting their stones > >straightened. This is the "Old Liberty Cemetery" > > > >Isham's father was killed in Indian War at Cumberland Gap, East Tenn. > >according to Tilton and according to P.Price killed 1783 at Cumberland Gap. > >This is on the notes I received from Elizabeth Looney in Washington DC in > >about 1990. Therre are references to "The Stevenson Story" Also Mrs. May > >Stevens. In Miss Looney's papers she has Benjamin Sr. born 1756 and died > >1783, had Benjamin (4) born about 1774 died before 1830 and married Mary > >Polly Galbraith, then next son John (4) Looney B 1776, living in 1830 > >married Mary Garrison. third son Isham (4) Looney B 26 Oct 1775 Tenn > >Justice of Peace Jackson County Alabama according to Eliza Tindall's > >Stevenson Story. He died Sept 1850. married Anne/Annie/Anny Littlefoot A > >Chickasaw Indian B 1781 in VA also born 12/27/1780 She was a widow in St. > >Clair Co. MO in 1860 Died 1/13/1862 both buried in Old Liberty Cemetery, > St. > >Clair Co. MO 4th son Robert (4) Looney, born 1780 died before Nov 20 1830 > >In 1830 census of Hawkins Co., Tenn there is a widow Margaret Looney with 1 > >dau & 1 son who may have been widow of this Robert then Miss Looney has a > >note NO this Margaaret was daughter of Ben (3) & Mary Johnson Looney, 5th > >son Absolem Looney, B 1782 Tenn, died 1860 Boissier Paris La Md 1803 Nancy > >Long Md Eleanor Nellie Wilson 1818 > > > >There is Possibly a 6th son per Prentiss price Jesse (4) Looney to whom > >Isom (4) Looney made a deed for 72 acres in STanley Valley on 10 August > 1802 > >being a part of the tract that the Widow Looney then lived on. > > > >Miss Looney's notes were a great find, actually she dropped them in my lap. > >She so loved her Looney family. > > > >I am sorry to say I have not checked out these facts however her genealogy > >has matched all I find so far. > > > >In Miss Looney's notes on Isam/Anny's son Benjamin (5) Looney she said he > >was born 5 Nov 1804 rather young but this could be the petitioner of 1819 > in > >Ala possibly the Benj who later married Samantha Holder. > > > >The Court Notice is all I have a Civil Action. On the Estate of Isam > >Looney. Ann Looney, Jesse Looney, John C. Looney, Allen Looney, Thomas > >Copenhaver and Nancy Copenhaver, Arthur Mathews and Mary Mathews and Sally > >Canada, plaintiffs, agains William G. Looney, Elizabeth Paine, Edward W. > >Looney, Mary J. Looney, Sarah Looney, William Looney, George Wolaver and > >Anna Wolaver and John Crumb and Elizabeth Crumb defendants. > > > >This is all I have. Judy Chapman Frisch, GGGGranddaughter of Isam & Anny > >Looney > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "melinda roberts" <jeepers-ct@chouteautel.com> > >To: <LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 5:35 PM > >Subject: [LOONEY-L] Looney confusion > > > > > >> Would any one on this list have information on Isham Looney son of > >Benjamin Looney and Mary Johnson, who married Annie Blackfoot/feet > >> > >> Benjamin Looney and Mary Johnson had son's Isham and Benjamin. Both of > >these brothers has son's named Benjamin, I believe these sons both married > >HOLDER woman....One to the daughter of Bledsoe Holder and one to the > >daughter of Solomon Holder. These two Benjamins have been confused over and > >over again,,,and I am trying to get them straightened up... > >> > >> Supposedly Isham's son Benjamin died in Alabama in the 1830's (maybe or > >maybe not). If I could find the Will of Isham Looney which is on file I > have > >heard in St. Clair County MO. it might clear this up.... > >> > >> Thank you for the help > >> Melinda Roberts > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== > >> See our HomePages at > >> http://Members.AOL.Com/jsully7 (Descendants of Robert Lunney) or > >> http://www.Flash.Net/~johnsonl (Includes Leroy W. Tilton's work) or > >> http://Welcome.to/TheLooneyFamily (Elsie Stroud's Works) or > >> http://www.mindspring.com/~mozark (William(4) and NE AR & SE MO > Looneys) > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== > >Were there 12 brothers that arrived in Boston from Ireland in the 1850s? > > Help us find them. Robert's family isn't the only LOONEYs out there! > > And, other Manx LOONEYs who came later than Robert are on our list! > > > > > ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== > Was "John" Robert's father? or brother? Was Robert's wife Elizabeth? Was > she a Stover or Llewellen? Was John's wife also a Llewellen (did sisters > marry brothers?)? How many of Robert's siblings and neices/nephews came > to America, too? Help us solve these mysteries today on the LOONEY list. > > >

Judy, Thank-you for such a quick response....I did not mean to write Blackfoot...you are right it is Littlefoot. I have been working on the Looney's that left Alabama and went into Missouri...and went into Greene Co. Mo. then into Camden Co. Family history says that the Looney's were Blackfoot indian..I had Blackfoot on the brain. Do you suppose that Isam and Annie were removed from Alabama during the Removal.?... I am not a Looney descendant, but wish I were...I have been working with a co-worker Ron Looney of Oklahoma and a friend Steven D. Looney of Michigan. The Looney's have such a rich history...and are such a wonderful family... I have just enjoyed this family so much... Steven and Ron's line is this: Robert Looney Sr..... born 1692 Robert Looney Jr.....Born 1721 Benjamin Looney.....Born 1756 Isham Looney.....Born 1775 or Benjamin Looney Born 1772 (not sure which yet) Benjamin Looney .....Born abt. 1796 Anthony Stewart Looney.....Born 1825 Ron descends from Anthony's son Isaac Looney Steven descends from Anthony's son Jessie Calvin Looney Benjamin Looney born abt 1796 was in Greene Co. Mo in 1850 and Franklin Co. Tn in 1830 can't place him in 1840.Sometime between this his wife passed away because he is with just his children in 1850. This Benjamin could not have been married to Samantha Holder because she was alive in 1870 without husband in Grayson co Texas. But since Benjamin is living by Solomon Holder in 1830 and 1850 I assume he married one of his daughters... this also could be the Benjamin on the 1819 petition....I do believe that the Benjamin Looney III son of Benjamin Looney and Benjamin Looney son of Isham have been had information mixed up on over and over again....The Tilton Manuscripts are not quite clear on these two...My logic was if I could find Isham's Will it would prove whether or not Benjamin was alive when Isham was in MO or had died in Alabama. What years did you say the Court Notice was? If it lists heirs this may be the proof I need... Thank-you for sharing your information with me....it was well appreciated Melinda Roberts It is great to hear that the "Old Liberty Cemetery" is being taken care of, this is what genealogy is about, Preserving our Heritage. Best wishes to everyone -----Original Message----- From: Dennis D. Frisch <frisch@iland.net> To: LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com <LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, March 17, 2003 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [LOONEY-L] Looney confusion >Melinda: To my knowledge there is not a will however there is a law suit >after Isham passed away. In this law suit it lists the heirs of Isham. > >I am interested in where you got your information Annie Blackfoot/feet >instead of Littlefoot/feet? I have never heard that before. > >Sorry to say I have not time right now as I am opening a little shop early >next month. Someone else here on line will probably answer your questions. >However if they don't give me your address and I will mail you a copy. > >My line is as follows: Judy Chapman Frisch, Mother: Catherine Christine >Shepherd Chapman, her father Benjamin Cleveland Shepherd, his mother Mary >Jane Looney Shepherd, her father John C. Looney and his father Isham Looney, >his father Benjamin Looney, his father Robert Looney Jr., his father Robert >Looney Sr. > >Your cousins have been working the last two years on the cemetery where >Isham and Anny are buried. We just had it fenced and now Isam and Anny have >a new stone. The other ancestors buried there are getting their stones >straightened. This is the "Old Liberty Cemetery" > >Isham's father was killed in Indian War at Cumberland Gap, East Tenn. >according to Tilton and according to P.Price killed 1783 at Cumberland Gap. >This is on the notes I received from Elizabeth Looney in Washington DC in >about 1990. Therre are references to "The Stevenson Story" Also Mrs. May >Stevens. In Miss Looney's papers she has Benjamin Sr. born 1756 and died >1783, had Benjamin (4) born about 1774 died before 1830 and married Mary >Polly Galbraith, then next son John (4) Looney B 1776, living in 1830 >married Mary Garrison. third son Isham (4) Looney B 26 Oct 1775 Tenn >Justice of Peace Jackson County Alabama according to Eliza Tindall's >Stevenson Story. He died Sept 1850. married Anne/Annie/Anny Littlefoot A >Chickasaw Indian B 1781 in VA also born 12/27/1780 She was a widow in St. >Clair Co. MO in 1860 Died 1/13/1862 both buried in Old Liberty Cemetery, St. >Clair Co. MO 4th son Robert (4) Looney, born 1780 died before Nov 20 1830 >In 1830 census of Hawkins Co., Tenn there is a widow Margaret Looney with 1 >dau & 1 son who may have been widow of this Robert then Miss Looney has a >note NO this Margaaret was daughter of Ben (3) & Mary Johnson Looney, 5th >son Absolem Looney, B 1782 Tenn, died 1860 Boissier Paris La Md 1803 Nancy >Long Md Eleanor Nellie Wilson 1818 > >There is Possibly a 6th son per Prentiss price Jesse (4) Looney to whom >Isom (4) Looney made a deed for 72 acres in STanley Valley on 10 August 1802 >being a part of the tract that the Widow Looney then lived on. > >Miss Looney's notes were a great find, actually she dropped them in my lap. >She so loved her Looney family. > >I am sorry to say I have not checked out these facts however her genealogy >has matched all I find so far. > >In Miss Looney's notes on Isam/Anny's son Benjamin (5) Looney she said he >was born 5 Nov 1804 rather young but this could be the petitioner of 1819 in >Ala possibly the Benj who later married Samantha Holder. > >The Court Notice is all I have a Civil Action. On the Estate of Isam >Looney. Ann Looney, Jesse Looney, John C. Looney, Allen Looney, Thomas >Copenhaver and Nancy Copenhaver, Arthur Mathews and Mary Mathews and Sally >Canada, plaintiffs, agains William G. Looney, Elizabeth Paine, Edward W. >Looney, Mary J. Looney, Sarah Looney, William Looney, George Wolaver and >Anna Wolaver and John Crumb and Elizabeth Crumb defendants. > >This is all I have. Judy Chapman Frisch, GGGGranddaughter of Isam & Anny >Looney > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "melinda roberts" <jeepers-ct@chouteautel.com> >To: <LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 5:35 PM >Subject: [LOONEY-L] Looney confusion > > >> Would any one on this list have information on Isham Looney son of >Benjamin Looney and Mary Johnson, who married Annie Blackfoot/feet >> >> Benjamin Looney and Mary Johnson had son's Isham and Benjamin. Both of >these brothers has son's named Benjamin, I believe these sons both married >HOLDER woman....One to the daughter of Bledsoe Holder and one to the >daughter of Solomon Holder. These two Benjamins have been confused over and >over again,,,and I am trying to get them straightened up... >> >> Supposedly Isham's son Benjamin died in Alabama in the 1830's (maybe or >maybe not). If I could find the Will of Isham Looney which is on file I have >heard in St. Clair County MO. it might clear this up.... >> >> Thank you for the help >> Melinda Roberts >> >> >> >> >> ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== >> See our HomePages at >> http://Members.AOL.Com/jsully7 (Descendants of Robert Lunney) or >> http://www.Flash.Net/~johnsonl (Includes Leroy W. Tilton's work) or >> http://Welcome.to/TheLooneyFamily (Elsie Stroud's Works) or >> http://www.mindspring.com/~mozark (William(4) and NE AR & SE MO Looneys) >> >> >> > > >==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== >Were there 12 brothers that arrived in Boston from Ireland in the 1850s? > Help us find them. Robert's family isn't the only LOONEYs out there! > And, other Manx LOONEYs who came later than Robert are on our list! >

Melinda: To my knowledge there is not a will however there is a law suit after Isham passed away. In this law suit it lists the heirs of Isham. I am interested in where you got your information Annie Blackfoot/feet instead of Littlefoot/feet? I have never heard that before. Sorry to say I have not time right now as I am opening a little shop early next month. Someone else here on line will probably answer your questions. However if they don't give me your address and I will mail you a copy. My line is as follows: Judy Chapman Frisch, Mother: Catherine Christine Shepherd Chapman, her father Benjamin Cleveland Shepherd, his mother Mary Jane Looney Shepherd, her father John C. Looney and his father Isham Looney, his father Benjamin Looney, his father Robert Looney Jr., his father Robert Looney Sr. Your cousins have been working the last two years on the cemetery where Isham and Anny are buried. We just had it fenced and now Isam and Anny have a new stone. The other ancestors buried there are getting their stones straightened. This is the "Old Liberty Cemetery" Isham's father was killed in Indian War at Cumberland Gap, East Tenn. according to Tilton and according to P.Price killed 1783 at Cumberland Gap. This is on the notes I received from Elizabeth Looney in Washington DC in about 1990. Therre are references to "The Stevenson Story" Also Mrs. May Stevens. In Miss Looney's papers she has Benjamin Sr. born 1756 and died 1783, had Benjamin (4) born about 1774 died before 1830 and married Mary Polly Galbraith, then next son John (4) Looney B 1776, living in 1830 married Mary Garrison. third son Isham (4) Looney B 26 Oct 1775 Tenn Justice of Peace Jackson County Alabama according to Eliza Tindall's Stevenson Story. He died Sept 1850. married Anne/Annie/Anny Littlefoot A Chickasaw Indian B 1781 in VA also born 12/27/1780 She was a widow in St. Clair Co. MO in 1860 Died 1/13/1862 both buried in Old Liberty Cemetery, St. Clair Co. MO 4th son Robert (4) Looney, born 1780 died before Nov 20 1830 In 1830 census of Hawkins Co., Tenn there is a widow Margaret Looney with 1 dau & 1 son who may have been widow of this Robert then Miss Looney has a note NO this Margaaret was daughter of Ben (3) & Mary Johnson Looney, 5th son Absolem Looney, B 1782 Tenn, died 1860 Boissier Paris La Md 1803 Nancy Long Md Eleanor Nellie Wilson 1818 There is Possibly a 6th son per Prentiss price Jesse (4) Looney to whom Isom (4) Looney made a deed for 72 acres in STanley Valley on 10 August 1802 being a part of the tract that the Widow Looney then lived on. Miss Looney's notes were a great find, actually she dropped them in my lap. She so loved her Looney family. I am sorry to say I have not checked out these facts however her genealogy has matched all I find so far. In Miss Looney's notes on Isam/Anny's son Benjamin (5) Looney she said he was born 5 Nov 1804 rather young but this could be the petitioner of 1819 in Ala possibly the Benj who later married Samantha Holder. The Court Notice is all I have a Civil Action. On the Estate of Isam Looney. Ann Looney, Jesse Looney, John C. Looney, Allen Looney, Thomas Copenhaver and Nancy Copenhaver, Arthur Mathews and Mary Mathews and Sally Canada, plaintiffs, agains William G. Looney, Elizabeth Paine, Edward W. Looney, Mary J. Looney, Sarah Looney, William Looney, George Wolaver and Anna Wolaver and John Crumb and Elizabeth Crumb defendants. This is all I have. Judy Chapman Frisch, GGGGranddaughter of Isam & Anny Looney ----- Original Message ----- From: "melinda roberts" <jeepers-ct@chouteautel.com> To: <LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 5:35 PM Subject: [LOONEY-L] Looney confusion > Would any one on this list have information on Isham Looney son of Benjamin Looney and Mary Johnson, who married Annie Blackfoot/feet > > Benjamin Looney and Mary Johnson had son's Isham and Benjamin. Both of these brothers has son's named Benjamin, I believe these sons both married HOLDER woman....One to the daughter of Bledsoe Holder and one to the daughter of Solomon Holder. These two Benjamins have been confused over and over again,,,and I am trying to get them straightened up... > > Supposedly Isham's son Benjamin died in Alabama in the 1830's (maybe or maybe not). If I could find the Will of Isham Looney which is on file I have heard in St. Clair County MO. it might clear this up.... > > Thank you for the help > Melinda Roberts > > > > > ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== > See our HomePages at > http://Members.AOL.Com/jsully7 (Descendants of Robert Lunney) or > http://www.Flash.Net/~johnsonl (Includes Leroy W. Tilton's work) or > http://Welcome.to/TheLooneyFamily (Elsie Stroud's Works) or > http://www.mindspring.com/~mozark (William(4) and NE AR & SE MO Looneys) > > >

Would any one on this list have information on Isham Looney son of Benjamin Looney and Mary Johnson, who married Annie Blackfoot/feet Benjamin Looney and Mary Johnson had son's Isham and Benjamin. Both of these brothers has son's named Benjamin, I believe these sons both married HOLDER woman....One to the daughter of Bledsoe Holder and one to the daughter of Solomon Holder. These two Benjamins have been confused over and over again,,,and I am trying to get them straightened up... Supposedly Isham's son Benjamin died in Alabama in the 1830's (maybe or maybe not). If I could find the Will of Isham Looney which is on file I have heard in St. Clair County MO. it might clear this up.... Thank you for the help Melinda Roberts

In 1910 and 1920 I have an Anderson and Sarah (Mullins?) Looney in Elkhorn, Pike Co., KY. My Aunt (Lucy) Mae Looney was born there in 1917. Her siblings were named Texas, dau age 9; Willa, dau, age 6 and Anderson Looney, Jr. (called Junior), son, age 6. In the 1920 Census at Elkhorn they had Ella Damron, sister-in-law, widow, age 19 living with them. In 1930 they were living in Floyd County, KY, Wheelwright and there were two more children in the census. They were J. Patton, son, age 8 and Charlenne, dau, age 11 mos. I have not been able to find out anything about the parents. Anderson, Sr. was b. abt 1886 in KY and Sarah Ann was b. abt 1889 in Virginia. It seems possible that these Looney families would be related since they both resided in Elkhorn City. What do you think? Connie Chancellor lcchance@worldnet.att.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Murphy" <murphyb1@earthlink.net> To: <LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 9:57 PM Subject: [LOONEY-L] Looney Family > Hello, > My name is Barbara Murphy. I am just starting to search for my Looney family line. My line comes from Pike CO. Ky. Mostly the Elkhorn City area and Marrowbone. My grandfather was Miles P. (Phinous) Looney who married Mary Bowling. they had about eight children. My father Bill was one of the siblings. I would appreciate any information that you are willing to share with me, and I will do the same, as I garner information. Thank you in advance for your help. > > Barbara > > > ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== > Were there 12 brothers that arrived in Boston from Ireland in the 1850s? > Help us find them. Robert's family isn't the only LOONEYs out there! > And, other Manx LOONEYs who came later than Robert are on our list! >

Hello, My name is Barbara Murphy. I am just starting to search for my Looney family line. My line comes from Pike CO. Ky. Mostly the Elkhorn City area and Marrowbone. My grandfather was Miles P. (Phinous) Looney who married Mary Bowling. they had about eight children. My father Bill was one of the siblings. I would appreciate any information that you are willing to share with me, and I will do the same, as I garner information. Thank you in advance for your help. Barbara