What time period for the Kentucky Looneys, Barbara? Nita

Thank you Larry. I appreciate your candidness. In just the little while that I have been searching for my family lineage, I have been very confused with some of the info on the Net. I have written for death & birth certificates, and have talked to some people I found on the Net, that are relatives of mine that I never knew I had. You are so right about misleading and conflicting facts. I will take your advise and will follow through. Are there people on this message board that are searching Looneys from the Kentucky area? Again, thank you for your help. Barbara

Does anyone have any information on Margaret Ann Looney? She married Nesbit N. Allen in Colbert County Alabama. They are buried in Russellville, Alabama in KP Cemetary. Her tomb stone has Margreet Ann Looney but her marriage license says Margaret A. Looney. Her name on her sons marriage license was Margaret Luna. She was the daughter of James Thomas Looney and Hannah Cole Swinney. James was the son of Thomas Russell Looney and Elizabeth Bailey. Jennifer --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!

Betsy, William Guion Looney b. 24 May 1840 Springfield, Greene Co, MO, d. 22 Feb 1932 Chickasha, Grady Co, OK, m. Martha Ann Williams 11 Sep 1866. William G. Looney was the son of John Looney and Elizabeth Littleton. Grandson of John Looney and Mary Garrison, G-Grandson of Benjamin Looney and Mary Johnson. GG-Grandson of Robert Looney Jr. and Margaret Rhea. If you want more information, contact me after June 30th. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betsy Fain" <bjfmade@yahoo.com> To: <LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 12:40 AM Subject: [LOONEY-L] William Guy Looney and Martha Ann Williams > Here is the information that I have on William and Martha, the individuals that were in the reunion picture posted at www.deadfred.com. > I have another picture of them with their grown children, taken the same day as the reunion picture. Would love to hear from anyone researching these individuals. Will be camping over the weekend, but will get back to you next week. > Betsy > > > > Descendants of William Guion 'Guy' Looney > > > > > > 1 William Guion 'Guy' Looney b: May 24, 1840 in Springfield, Greene, Missouri > > .. +Martha Ann Williams b: February 22, 1842 in Praire Grove, Missouri near Springfield, Greene County > > ......... 2 Lula Theresa Looney b: August 03, 1867 > > ............. +Cicero Ivie b: June 1861 > > ......... *2nd Husband of Lula Theresa Looney: > > ............. +Joe A. Weatherly b: October 11, 1855 > > ......... 2 John Gibson Looney b: November 19, 1870 in Grayson County, Texas > > ............. +Frances Rozella Looney b: September 01, 1868 in Indian Territory, Grayson, Texas > > ......... 2 William Franklin Looney b: February 1871 in Texas > > ............. +Martha J. Brown b: Abt. 1882 > > ......... 2 Mary Ida Looney b: January 20, 1875 in Texas > > ............. +William J. Hoover b: November 28, 1875 in Texas > > ......... 2 Mildred Beatrice Looney b: May 26, 1877 in Texas > > ............. +O.O. Coffman > > ......... *2nd Husband of Mildred Beatrice Looney: > > ............. +George Paul b: Abt. 1875 in Texas > > ......... 2 Leota Bell Looney b: July 13, 1879 in Basin Springs, Texas > > ............. +Thomas Delovan Holder b: October 28, 1873 in Sherman, Grayson, Texas > > ......... 2 Ella Leam Looney b: January 31, 1884 in Texas > > ............. +Hamilton P. Hart b: Abt. 1879 in South Carolina > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > > ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== > Please keep the topic related to LOONEY (and variants) family history. > Other topics should be taken off-line (mail them directly). Also, don't > post "ME TOO" or "GO AHEAD" messages to the list. Send them directly. > Note: The default "Reply To:" for this list is the list, not the sender. >

Larry, I would appreciate you sending me a picture of my GGgrandpa, John William Looney. My Ggrandpa was Thomas Jefferson Looney (born February 9, 1842) of Trenton, Fannin County, Texas. He died April 5, 1890. Would you have any further information on him?? and his wife, Isadora Jane Saunders?? Thanks! Donna

I am a novice at genealogy, and I am trying to find my "Looney" lineage. I have traced back to John Looney. My did was Bill Looney from Pike Co. Ky. The line goes back as follows: Miles P. Looney & Mary Bowling, Jacob & Elizabeth Owens, John & Emerita Rowe, Joseph B. & Ruthie Shortridge, John & E;izabeth Walker, Capt. John Looney & Esther Renfro, Robert Looney & Margaret Rhea, Robert & Elizabeth Llewellyn, and finally John Looney. If anyone has any information they would share with me, I would truly areciate it. Thanks. Barbara Murphy

Donna, Here is some information that I have on Thomas Jefferson Looney, b. 9 Feb 1842, Lawrence Co., Ala, married 2nd wife Isadora Jane Sanders 9 July 1874 Bonham, Tx. Isadora was born 9 July 1849 Henry Co, IA, died 25 Feb 1905 in Chico, Wise Co, TX. Together they had children: Dan Benjamin, George Andrew, Fred Jeff, Della, John Edward and Arthur Clay Looney. Thomas Jefferson Looney married (1) Melvina E. Hartgrove on 06 Dec 1865 in Lawrence Co., Alabama (2) Isadora Jane Sanders on 09 July 1874 in Bonham, Texas, they had six children, one daughter and five sons. He died on 05 April 1890, in Trenton, Fannin County, Texas and is buried in Pilot Grove Cemetery in Grayson County, Texas. I'll send you John William Looney's picture directly since the list server will block it. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: <RahijaDJ@aol.com> To: <LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 10:46 PM Subject: Re: [LOONEY-L] Moses Looney > Larry, > > I would appreciate you sending me a picture of my GGgrandpa, John William > Looney. My Ggrandpa was Thomas Jefferson Looney (born February 9, 1842) of > Trenton, Fannin County, Texas. He died April 5, 1890. Would you have any > further information on him?? and his wife, Isadora Jane Saunders?? > > Thanks! > Donna > > > ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== > If you're having problems, the listowners can be contacted via E-Mail > at EGLooney@USA.Net (Ed); JSully7@AOL.Com (Sully) or our beloved > listmistress, Pat Davis at PatLDavis@AOL.Com >

Barbara, The line you have quoted seems to be a little mixed up. Capt. John Looney was not married to Ester Renfro and the John Looney that married Elizabeth Walker was not a son of Capt. John Looney. I have a very basic start for you. First, go to the Looney Family Manuscripts of Leroy Tilton which are posted to my web site: http://home.flash.net/~johnsonl/ Then go to part 5 which is the John Looney branch. You will find Elizabeth Walker in it. Tilton and others did this work back in the 1960s and they did it the old hard way, by interviewing relations and looking up actual documents. It is not always 100% accurate, but you will find the data hard to beat. Next, use a search engine to search the internet for word combinations like "Looney" and "Shortridge". This will give you a list of web pages that contain both surnames. Use other word or name combinations and you will find all sorts of family relations. One word of caution, be careful what you believe. Make sure the person posting the information can identify where the information came from. Be careful about simply believing what others have posted, there are some out there that would simply make up family relationships just to link to a famous family or person. Others are just too quick to jump at conclusions. Here is the link to a good search engine: http://www.google.com/ Happy hunting. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Murphy" <murphyb1@earthlink.net> To: <LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [LOONEY-L] Moses Looney > I am a novice at genealogy, and I am trying to find my "Looney" lineage. I have traced back to John Looney. My did was Bill Looney from Pike Co. Ky. The line goes back as follows: Miles P. Looney & Mary Bowling, Jacob & Elizabeth Owens, John & Emerita Rowe, Joseph B. & Ruthie Shortridge, John & E;izabeth Walker, Capt. John Looney & Esther Renfro, Robert Looney & Margaret Rhea, Robert & Elizabeth Llewellyn, and finally John Looney. > If anyone has any information they would share with me, I would truly areciate it. Thanks. > Barbara Murphy > > > ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== > Do the Manx LOONEY/LLEWNIEs connect to the Irish LOONEY/O'LOONEYs? > Did the name originate in County Cork in 148 AD with the marriage of > Con of a Hundred Battles (High King of Ireland in 158 AD) to the > daughter of Olollar Ollium, King of Munster? Does it have TWO origins? >

I too, am a descendant of Moses Looney and Mary Guest (Gist). I have a copy of the same picture of Moses Looney, born 6 August 1780. I am in the linage of their son John William Looney. I would like to have more information on John William Looney and Mary Polly Hamilton Looney. The stories passed down in my family are that my GGGrandpa (which is John William Looney) was a Cherokee Chief and that the family was on the Trail of Tears. However, like everyone else, none of us in our family has been able to prove that. Also, I've been told all my life that I'm 1/16th Cherokee. I'd appreciate any help that some of you could give. Donna

Donna, I have information on John W. Looney and his "first" wife, Mary "Polly" Hamilton. John W. Looney was not a Chief and he apparently didn't go on the "Trail of Tears". John lived and died right there in the Danville, Ala area. Danville was the location of his father Moses Looney's Masonic Lodge (from his apron). Which child of J.W. Looney do you descend from? If you are interested, I have a scanned picture of J.W. Looney with his second wife, Sarah "Sallie" C. Hendon. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: <RahijaDJ@aol.com> To: <LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [LOONEY-L] Moses Looney > I too, am a descendant of Moses Looney and Mary Guest (Gist). I have a copy > of the same picture of Moses Looney, born 6 August 1780. I am in the linage > of their son John William Looney. > > I would like to have more information on John William Looney and Mary Polly > Hamilton Looney. > > The stories passed down in my family are that my GGGrandpa (which is John > William Looney) was a Cherokee Chief and that the family was on the Trail of > Tears. However, like everyone else, none of us in our family has been able to > prove that. Also, I've been told all my life that I'm 1/16th Cherokee. > > I'd appreciate any help that some of you could give. > Donna > > > ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== > If you find a web page somewhere listing Manx, Irish or Scotch surnames > and they don't include LOONEY/LUNA/etc., send them a note to let them > know we're around. The more advertising we have, the more help we get. >

I'm not very familiar with Masonic symbolism, but the words on the sash look like the say DANVILLE GRANGE and above that looks like the image of a plow. Is this standard Masonic wear? Eddie Davis ecdavis@atlascomm.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Johnson" <JohnsonL@flash.net> To: <LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [LOONEY-L] Moses Looney > I don't trust Donald Panther-Yates brand of genealogy. He makes statements > about family relationships without any evidence at all. He goes off half > cocked. > > Here is the links a scan of the original picture of Moses Looney Sr. of > Lawrence County, Ala. This is the same picture as in the poor quality copy > that is posted in black and white to the web. This picture is a whole lot > clearer and anyone familiar with Masonic dress will clearly see that Moses > is wearing a Mason's apron and sash. I have reversed the picture from it's > original since the image in the original was reversed. Now you can read the > words on the apron. Some of the following images are large so if you have a > slow connection, it may take awhile to download the pictures. > > Moses Looney Sr. (reversed from the original) > http://home.flash.net/~johnsonl/moseslooneyrev.jpg > > Here is a picture of the headstone of Moses Looney Sr. > http://home.flash.net/~johnsonl/Moses%20Sr.jpg > This headstone is in the Friendship Baptist Church cemetery which is located > on the county line of Morgan and Lawrence Counties, Ala. > > I have not located a picture of Moses Looney Jr., but here is a picture of > Francis (Frank) A. Looney, son of Moses Looney Jr., brother to George M. > Looney and grandson of Moses Sr above. > > http://home.flash.net/~johnsonl/Francis.jpg > > Here is a picture of George M. Looney, son of Moses Looney Jr., grandson of > Moses Sr. and his nephew, Dennis A. Looney (Son of Francis A. Looney) > > http://home.flash.net/~johnsonl/gm_da_looney.jpg > > These individuals are ancestors to Dianne Croak and myself. We are > grandchildren to Dennis A. Looney pictured above with his uncle George M. > Looney. > > Larry W. Johnson > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <NSayed6266@aol.com> > To: <LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 4:50 PM > Subject: Re: [LOONEY-L] Moses Looney > > > > Hi--have any of you seen the picture of Moses Looney (son of Captain John > > Looney and Elizabeth Renfro) at Donald Panther-Yates website? The url is: > > > > > http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/p/a/n/Donald-N-Pantheryates/PHOTO /0 > > 015photo.html > > > > He has the birthday as being June 8, 1780. First, I thought Moses was > born > > Aug. 6, not June 8. Second, if he is not of the Cherokee Looneys, why > does he > > look Native American? Third, is this even Moses at all? Mr. Yates has > some > > interesting theories, and I'd like to know what the rest of you all think > about > > them. > > > > My Looney line is through Louisa Looney, who married James Brigham. > > > > Nancy Merrill Sayed > > > > > > ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== > > If you're having problems, the listowners can be contacted via E-Mail > > at EGLooney@USA.Net (Ed); JSully7@AOL.Com (Sully) or our beloved > > listmistress, Pat Davis at PatLDavis@AOL.Com > > > > > ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, send a message to looney-L-REQUEST@RootsWeb.Com > with the command UNSUBSCRIBE as the only line in the message's body. > If you're in digest, send it to looney-D-REQUEST@RootsWeb.Com > > >

The photo on Panther-Yates' site IS the one from Larry Johnson's website (of Moses who was Larry Johnson's GG-Grandfather) [to which Yates gives credit.]. Larry's site, <A HREF="http://home.flash.net/~johnsonl/index.htm">http://home.flash.net/~johnsonl/index.htm</A> states: Here is a picture of my GG-Grandfather, <A HREF="http://home.flash.net/~johnsonl/moses1.gif">Moses Looney SR.</A> born Aug 6, 1780 Tennessee, died Jan 9, 1855 Lawrence Co, Alabama. My Panther-Yates apparently took the US-based date format 8/6/1780 [MM/DD/YYYY] and incorrectly read it as if it were the European-date format [DD/MM/YYYY] to get the incorrect June 8 (instead of August 6). I run across this very often in my work and have got into the habit of ALWAYS writing out the month abbreviation (in this case 6 Aug 1780). Larry also spelled out the month on his website so the birthdate error didn't come from there. I agree that in this picture Moses really looks native American! I've also been most interested in finding more about our Cherokee Looneys but, appearance aside, I don't think Moses is supposed to be native American. I'll probably order Panther-Yates' book. Dianne wrote that the website URL quoted doesn't work. Actually it does, but you need to remove the carriage return before making the link (or going in after the past and manually correcting the last part of the URL = 0015photo.html before trying to go to the site.) [I've removed the c.r. below] In a message dated 6/16/2003 4:51:28 PM Central Daylight Time, NSayed6266@AOL.Com writes: > Hi--have any of you seen the picture of Moses Looney (son of Captain John > Looney and Elizabeth Renfro) at Donald Panther-Yates website? The url is: > > http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/p/a/n/Donald-N-Pantheryates/PHOTO/ > 0015photo.html > > He has the birthday as being June 8, 1780. First, I thought Moses was born > Aug. 6, not June 8. Second, if he is not of the Cherokee Looneys, why does > he > look Native American? Third, is this even Moses at all? Mr. Yates has some > > interesting theories, and I'd like to know what the rest of you all think > about > them. > >

Why do I say Donald Panther-Yates goes off half cocked? The following is an excerpt from a web page titled "You will never find the Truth" that Donald Panther-Yates had posted to the internet. This page has now been removed, but it can still be found in the cashed archives of the Google search engine. Donald mixes in just enough truth to make his unfounded and unsupported claims sound almost believable. Donald's erroneous statements associated with a picture of Moses Looney Sr. follow: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------- FIG. 18. MOSES LOONEY (1780-1855) is shown in Masonic regalia in this rare photograph taken shortly before his death in Lawrence Co., Alabama. He married Sequoyah's niece, Mary Guess. He descends from Robert Looney of Ballagilley, Isle of Man, a member of the Spanish-Portuguese Jewish mercantile family Luna. Robert Looney brought his entire family to Philadelphia in 1732 and they became one of 70 families in a major settlement of the Virginia uplands under Alexander Ross and Morgan Bryan in 1735. The Looneys were prominent in Tennessee history for building forts, making roads and commanding armies. John Looney, Moses' cousin, died a Cherokee chief. Photo courtesy of Wanda Looney Buss. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------- What's truth and what's make believe? It's really hard to tell when reading Donald's statements. I do know that there has NOT been anything found to support the statement that Mary Guest (not Guess) who married Moses Looney Sr. was the niece of the famous Cherokee Sequoyah. On top of that, how do you like the statement that Robert Looney of the Isle of Man was a member of the Spanish-Portuguese Jewish mercantile family Luna? Where in the world did he come up with that? You can probably figure out why he has now taken this web page down. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Johnson" <JohnsonL@flash.net> To: <LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [LOONEY-L] Moses Looney > I don't trust Donald Panther-Yates brand of genealogy. He makes statements > about family relationships without any evidence at all. He goes off half > cocked. >

I don't trust Donald Panther-Yates brand of genealogy. He makes statements about family relationships without any evidence at all. He goes off half cocked. Here is the links a scan of the original picture of Moses Looney Sr. of Lawrence County, Ala. This is the same picture as in the poor quality copy that is posted in black and white to the web. This picture is a whole lot clearer and anyone familiar with Masonic dress will clearly see that Moses is wearing a Mason's apron and sash. I have reversed the picture from it's original since the image in the original was reversed. Now you can read the words on the apron. Some of the following images are large so if you have a slow connection, it may take awhile to download the pictures. Moses Looney Sr. (reversed from the original) http://home.flash.net/~johnsonl/moseslooneyrev.jpg Here is a picture of the headstone of Moses Looney Sr. http://home.flash.net/~johnsonl/Moses%20Sr.jpg This headstone is in the Friendship Baptist Church cemetery which is located on the county line of Morgan and Lawrence Counties, Ala. I have not located a picture of Moses Looney Jr., but here is a picture of Francis (Frank) A. Looney, son of Moses Looney Jr., brother to George M. Looney and grandson of Moses Sr above. http://home.flash.net/~johnsonl/Francis.jpg Here is a picture of George M. Looney, son of Moses Looney Jr., grandson of Moses Sr. and his nephew, Dennis A. Looney (Son of Francis A. Looney) http://home.flash.net/~johnsonl/gm_da_looney.jpg These individuals are ancestors to Dianne Croak and myself. We are grandchildren to Dennis A. Looney pictured above with his uncle George M. Looney. Larry W. Johnson ----- Original Message ----- From: <NSayed6266@aol.com> To: <LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [LOONEY-L] Moses Looney > Hi--have any of you seen the picture of Moses Looney (son of Captain John > Looney and Elizabeth Renfro) at Donald Panther-Yates website? The url is: > > http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/p/a/n/Donald-N-Pantheryates/PHOTO/0 > 015photo.html > > He has the birthday as being June 8, 1780. First, I thought Moses was born > Aug. 6, not June 8. Second, if he is not of the Cherokee Looneys, why does he > look Native American? Third, is this even Moses at all? Mr. Yates has some > interesting theories, and I'd like to know what the rest of you all think about > them. > > My Looney line is through Louisa Looney, who married James Brigham. > > Nancy Merrill Sayed > > > ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== > If you're having problems, the listowners can be contacted via E-Mail > at EGLooney@USA.Net (Ed); JSully7@AOL.Com (Sully) or our beloved > listmistress, Pat Davis at PatLDavis@AOL.Com >

Hi--have any of you seen the picture of Moses Looney (son of Captain John Looney and Elizabeth Renfro) at Donald Panther-Yates website? The url is: http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/p/a/n/Donald-N-Pantheryates/PHOTO/0 015photo.html He has the birthday as being June 8, 1780. First, I thought Moses was born Aug. 6, not June 8. Second, if he is not of the Cherokee Looneys, why does he look Native American? Third, is this even Moses at all? Mr. Yates has some interesting theories, and I'd like to know what the rest of you all think about them. My Looney line is through Louisa Looney, who married James Brigham. Nancy Merrill Sayed

Bev, Oops, I don't think I'm related to your Martha Looney after all. My Martha was married to Absalom Looney and had 4 daughters with him; her last names were Hunt and Dunnegan (Dunagan, Dunnigan - I've seen it spelled all different ways). Ladyhawk ----- Original Message ----- From: Beverly Birdwell Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 11:25 AM To: LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LOONEY-L] Looney Family Photo Hey, glad to hear from you!!!!! How are you related to her? I have lots of info---you are related, through her, to the first governor of Mass., John Endicott. My Mother was Gladys Roundtree, Grandmother Maud Looney Roundtree, GGrandmother Martha Harmon Looney. William was the Cherokee. Martha was first married to a man named ??? Tidwell, had two sons, John and Ernest Tidwell, before she married William. We haven't ever been able to find out who that was. Any info? If you will send me your mailing address, I will send you copies of my papers---way too much to e-mail. Get back to me and lets find out how we are related. Good to hear from you bev ----- Original Message ----- From: DAVID WILSON Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 5:36 PM To: LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LOONEY-L] Looney Family Photo Beverly, I am related to the Cherokee Looneys also. Would appreciate any info on Martha as she is my direct relative. Thanks Ladyhawk ----- Original Message ----- From: Beverly Birdwell Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 6:08 PM To: LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LOONEY-L] Looney Family Photo I also checked out the photo, and even though my Looney's are William and Martha Looney, from Okla. area, mine are Cherokee, and not any of the persons in the picture. Any info on any of the Cherokee Looney's? ----- Original Message ----- From: Betsy Fain Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 9:45 PM To: LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [LOONEY-L] Looney Family Photo I have posted one of my Looney photos on www.deadfred.com It may take a little bit of time to show up, so you may have to check back tomorrow. Just do a search for Looney. I would love to hear from anyone researching this family. Betsy --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== Mailing List Archives may be found at: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl (Enter "looney" as the list to be searched - no quotes). ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== If you're having problems, the listowners can be contacted via E-Mail at EGLooney@USA.Net (Ed); JSully7@AOL.Com (Sully) or our beloved listmistress, Pat Davis at PatLDavis@AOL.Com ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== If you're having problems, the listowners can be contacted via E-Mail at EGLooney@USA.Net (Ed); JSully7@AOL.Com (Sully) or our beloved listmistress, Pat Davis at PatLDavis@AOL.Com ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== Do the Manx LOONEY/LLEWNIEs connect to the Irish LOONEY/O'LOONEYs? Did the name originate in County Cork in 148 AD with the marriage of Con of a Hundred Battles (High King of Ireland in 158 AD) to the daughter of Olollar Ollium, King of Munster? Does it have TWO origins?

I went to the website that you listed for the picture of Moses Looney & it said the site had been moved. If it was the same picture that is on Larry Johnson's website of Moses Looney, it is indeed suppose to be Moses Looney, son of John & Elizabeth Rentfro Looney. (I was sent a copy of the picture from Miss Elizabeth Looney, while she was still alive. She also mentioned that he had white or grey hair that was long down his back and that he wore it braided and twisted in a knot on the back of his head.) Dianne

Hey, glad to hear from you!!!!! How are you related to her? I have lots of info---you are related, through her, to the first governor of Mass., John Endicott. My Mother was Gladys Roundtree, Grandmother Maud Looney Roundtree, GGrandmother Martha Harmon Looney. William was the Cherokee. Martha was first married to a man named ??? Tidwell, had two sons, John and Ernest Tidwell, before she married William. We haven't ever been able to find out who that was. Any info? If you will send me your mailing address, I will send you copies of my papers---way too much to e-mail. Get back to me and lets find out how we are related. Good to hear from you bev ----- Original Message ----- From: DAVID WILSON Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 5:36 PM To: LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LOONEY-L] Looney Family Photo Beverly, I am related to the Cherokee Looneys also. Would appreciate any info on Martha as she is my direct relative. Thanks Ladyhawk ----- Original Message ----- From: Beverly Birdwell Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 6:08 PM To: LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LOONEY-L] Looney Family Photo I also checked out the photo, and even though my Looney's are William and Martha Looney, from Okla. area, mine are Cherokee, and not any of the persons in the picture. Any info on any of the Cherokee Looney's? ----- Original Message ----- From: Betsy Fain Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 9:45 PM To: LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [LOONEY-L] Looney Family Photo I have posted one of my Looney photos on www.deadfred.com It may take a little bit of time to show up, so you may have to check back tomorrow. Just do a search for Looney. I would love to hear from anyone researching this family. Betsy --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== Mailing List Archives may be found at: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl (Enter "looney" as the list to be searched - no quotes). ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== If you're having problems, the listowners can be contacted via E-Mail at EGLooney@USA.Net (Ed); JSully7@AOL.Com (Sully) or our beloved listmistress, Pat Davis at PatLDavis@AOL.Com ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== If you're having problems, the listowners can be contacted via E-Mail at EGLooney@USA.Net (Ed); JSully7@AOL.Com (Sully) or our beloved listmistress, Pat Davis at PatLDavis@AOL.Com

Beverly, I am related to the Cherokee Looneys also. Would appreciate any info on Martha as she is my direct relative. Thanks Ladyhawk ----- Original Message ----- From: Beverly Birdwell Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 6:08 PM To: LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LOONEY-L] Looney Family Photo I also checked out the photo, and even though my Looney's are William and Martha Looney, from Okla. area, mine are Cherokee, and not any of the persons in the picture. Any info on any of the Cherokee Looney's? ----- Original Message ----- From: Betsy Fain Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 9:45 PM To: LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [LOONEY-L] Looney Family Photo I have posted one of my Looney photos on www.deadfred.com It may take a little bit of time to show up, so you may have to check back tomorrow. Just do a search for Looney. I would love to hear from anyone researching this family. Betsy --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== Mailing List Archives may be found at: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl (Enter "looney" as the list to be searched - no quotes). ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== If you're having problems, the listowners can be contacted via E-Mail at EGLooney@USA.Net (Ed); JSully7@AOL.Com (Sully) or our beloved listmistress, Pat Davis at PatLDavis@AOL.Com

<<I think that your Mary Ann Quinn Cooper may be related to (sister? niece?) the Mary Elizabeth Quinn who married Robert 3 (Adam2, Robert1) Looney and had a son named Hugh Quinn Looney. Robert 3's sister, Margaret 3 Looney, married Hugh Quinn. I don't know if there is a relationship between Hugh and Mary Elizabeth Quinn, but I would guess they are siblings.>> Teresa, Mary Elizabeth Quinn (m. Robert3 (Adam2, Robert1) Looney was the daughter of Hugh Quin (Sr.) and Margaret Fondren, who also had a son named Hugh Quinn (Jr.) [b. 14 Nov 1782, d. 8 Oct 1854, Lawrence, AL]. My records indicate that this Hugh Quinn (Jr.) married Margaret Looney sometime after 1763. Margaret Looney Quinn died in 1777. He then married Jane (Jennie) Roberts about 1782. Hugh (Jr.) died in Cleveland Co., NC on 1 April 1840. In addition to Mary Elizabeth (Betsy) Quinn and Hugh Quinn, Jr., Hugh (Sr) and Margaret (Fondren) Quin had at least 3 outer children (Peter Quinn [b.11 Apr 1750], Daniel Quinn [b. ~1758/1760], and John Quinn [about 1768]). Hope this helps. Jim Cain