Recently my son, Phillip, and his family, and I took our annual Looney research trip. This must be at least trip number 12 (including several to Richmond, 1 to Frankfort, 2 to Nashville, and 1 to Raleigh). This year we went back to Nashville again. Our main goals were to find out more about David (2) Looney, James McCain, and the 2 Peter Looneys of Sumner County. We also wanted to trace the Maury County land records because David (2) Looney had land there. Thanks to Bob Reese for letting us know this. We wanted to share some of our findings, so over the next few days the following postings will appear: 1) David (2) Looney deceased by 1806, possibly by December 1804. The dates 1810-11 have often been given as his date of death. 2) Report on Peter Luna's Cemetery, Fishing Ford road, Marshall Co., TN 3) Report on Peter Looney's Cemetery, Station Camp Creek, Sumner Co., TN 4) Data (tax records, lawsuits, etc.) to help separate the two Peter Looneys in Sumner Co., TN 5) David (2) Looney, an original owner of a lot in Nashville, TN These summaries will not show the delight and awe we felt when finding these graves, records, etc. We were offered help whenever we needed to find places and the people of TN were wonderful. DEATH OF DAVID (2) LOONEY Most records (especially DAR) state that David Looney died in 1810. If the Sullivan County deed records are searched, it is clear that by 1811 the heirs of David Looney were dividing up their lands. Someone might look at these records and conclude that David died about 1810. The original recording of David Looney's Will and all court minutes burned during the Civil War. A copy of his Will was later produced by Prof. Rupert Taylor, which David Looney made in 1801. Has anyone ever seen when the Will was probated? If a copy of his Will was made which Prof. Taylor got, why wasn't a copy made of when it was probated? Anyone have any date on when the Will was probated? In Maury County, TN where a 5,000 acre grant owned by Alexander Breckenridge and David Looney ended up, Breckenridge made George Breckenridge his power of attorney on Sept. 6, 1806, "... to meet and confer with the heirs of David Looney dec[ease]d late of Sullivan County ..." To support that David Looney was deceased by an earlier date than 1810, a Maury County record made on December 12, 1807, is helpful. Abraham Looney, as executor, and Mary Looney (wife of David), as executrix, "... of the estate of David Looney dec[ease]d ..." sold William Maxwell 300 acres from the 5,000 acre tract. In tracing the land that David Looney owned, the 411 acres on Goose Creek is of interest. According to David (2) Looney's Will, this land was left to his son, David (3) Looney. This land ended up in Smith County, TN where in December 1804 David (3) Looney sold the lower part of about 156 acres (from Mapper, not stated in deed) to Jeremiah Taylor (his brother-in-law). He later made 4 other deeds by 1819, selling all the 411 acres. Usually David (3) Looney would not have been able to sell land until he had a legal title or right. Wouldn't the probate of the Will occur first, then heirs could sell off the land? Was David (2) Looney's Will already probated by December 1804? These records certainly move David Looney's date of death back to 1806, and possibly prior to December 1804. The documentation on the deeds are: Dec. 1804 Smith County Deed book B, pp. 252-53 Sept. 6, 1806 Maury County Deed book B, pp. 47-49 Entered in Court in June 1809 Dec. 12, 1807 Maury County Deed Book A, pp. 20-21 Entered in Court March 1808 More to come in a day or so. Madge Looney Crane and Phillip L. Crane

Well, I would like to say thanks, in advance, for the posts you are planning to do. Peter Luna is in my line, so I will be reading with interest. I think its great that some will expend their time and effort on branches other than their own and are willing to share the information. I don't know about the rest of you, but the Looney/Luna List is absolutely the only one I have been on that shares in this manner, with no "tit for tat" "I'll give you this, but only if you show me what you can give me back first" . I've been avidly interested in genealogy for years, but have set it aside the last couple years or so because of raising my family. I've been signed up with many lists on my various family branches and I can say, bar none, this group is the greatest for sharing. I'm not saying the others don't share at all. . .there are usually a couple in each group that will, but none "collectively" like this group. Thanks, Karen Luna Ray At 05:35 PM 8/23/2003 -0400, you wrote: >Recently my son, Phillip, and his family, and I took our annual Looney >research trip. This must be at least trip number 12 (including several to >Richmond, 1 to Frankfort, 2 to Nashville, and 1 to Raleigh). This year >we went back to Nashville again. Our main goals were to find out more >about David (2) Looney, James McCain, and the 2 Peter Looneys of Sumner >County. We also wanted to trace the Maury County land records because >David (2) Looney had land there. Thanks to Bob Reese for letting us know >this. We wanted to share some of our findings, so over the next few days >the following postings will appear: > >1) David (2) Looney deceased by 1806, possibly by December 1804. > The dates 1810-11 have often been given as his date of death. > >2) Report on Peter Luna's Cemetery, Fishing Ford road, Marshall Co., TN > >3) Report on Peter Looney's Cemetery, Station Camp Creek, Sumner Co., TN > >4) Data (tax records, lawsuits, etc.) to help separate the two Peter >Looneys in > Sumner Co., TN > >5) David (2) Looney, an original owner of a lot in Nashville, TN > > These summaries will not show the delight and awe we felt when > finding these graves, records, etc. We were offered help whenever we > needed to find places and the people of TN were wonderful. > > DEATH OF DAVID (2) LOONEY > Most records (especially DAR) state that David Looney died in > 1810. If the Sullivan County deed records are searched, it is clear that > by 1811 the heirs of David Looney were dividing up their lands. Someone > might look at these records and conclude that David died about 1810. The > original recording of David Looney's Will and all court minutes burned > during the Civil War. A copy of his Will was later produced by Prof. > Rupert Taylor, which David Looney made in 1801. Has anyone ever seen > when the Will was probated? If a copy of his Will was made which Prof. > Taylor got, why wasn't a copy made of when it was probated? Anyone have > any date on when the Will was probated? > In Maury County, TN where a 5,000 acre grant owned by Alexander > Breckenridge and David Looney ended up, Breckenridge made George > Breckenridge his power of attorney on Sept. 6, 1806, "... to meet and > confer with the heirs of David Looney dec[ease]d late of Sullivan County > ..." To support that David Looney was deceased by an earlier date than > 1810, a Maury County record made on December 12, 1807, is > helpful. Abraham Looney, as executor, and Mary Looney (wife of David), > as executrix, "... of the estate of David Looney dec[ease]d ..." sold > William Maxwell 300 acres from the 5,000 acre tract. > In tracing the land that David Looney owned, the 411 acres on Goose > Creek is of interest. According to David (2) Looney's Will, this land > was left to his son, David (3) Looney. This land ended up in Smith > County, TN where in December 1804 David (3) Looney sold the lower part of > about 156 acres (from Mapper, not stated in deed) to Jeremiah Taylor (his > brother-in-law). He later made 4 other deeds by 1819, selling all the > 411 acres. Usually David (3) Looney would not have been able to sell > land until he had a legal title or right. Wouldn't the probate of the > Will occur first, then heirs could sell off the land? Was David (2) > Looney's Will already probated by December 1804? > These records certainly move David Looney's date of death back to > 1806, and possibly prior to December 1804. > > The documentation on the deeds are: > Dec. 1804 Smith County Deed book B, pp. 252-53 > Sept. 6, 1806 Maury County Deed book B, pp. 47-49 > Entered in Court in June 1809 > Dec. 12, 1807 Maury County Deed Book A, pp. 20-21 > Entered in Court March 1808 > >More to come in a day or so. Madge Looney Crane and Phillip L. Crane > > > >==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== >If you find a web page somewhere listing Manx, Irish or Scotch surnames >and they don't include LOONEY/LUNA/etc., send them a note to let them >know we're around. The more advertising we have, the more help we get.

Larry, Thanks for your feedback.. Eddie Davis (whom I'm trying to help) says - Malinda Vaughan's mother (one of his line) is supposed to be Ferbey was the daughter of a Ferbey Looney who married a man named ________Benton. Fereby Looney Benton died in childbirth and Mr. Benton named his daughter Ferbey after his deceased wife. That is about all we know..... Thanks again, Ginny Ginny Ayers Spann <>< VASPANN@aol.com RESEARCHING: Ayers, Bennett, Byrom, Fowler, Green, Gross, Hammontree, Kyle, Ladd, Looney, Seabolt & Stone

I've seen this Fereby Looney / Benton question off and on now for about 10 years. I even saw it back during the days of dial in bulletin boards (pre-internet). A whole lot of effort has already been expended by a whole lot of people and I don't think they are any farther along than they were ten years ago. Unless someone stumbles across some long lost court house records, I'm afraid they will never find what they are looking for. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Ray" <karenray@1starnet.com> To: <LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [LOONEY-L] Fereby Benton OR Fereby Looney > > The archives to this Looney-List. See if the following link will get you > there. If not, let me know and I'll see if I can chase it down. > > Karen > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/looney. > > > > > > > > At 08:10 PM 8/22/2003 -0400, you wrote: > >Karen, > > > >Thanks for responding.....what archives list???? > > > > > > > >Ginny Ayers Spann <>< > >VASPANN@aol.com > >RESEARCHING: Ayers, Bennett, Byrom, Fowler, Green, Gross, Hammontree, Kyle, > >Ladd, Looney, Seabolt & Stone > > > > > >==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== > >Do the Manx LOONEY/LLEWNIEs connect to the Irish LOONEY/O'LOONEYs? > >Did the name originate in County Cork in 148 AD with the marriage of > >Con of a Hundred Battles (High King of Ireland in 158 AD) to the > >daughter of Olollar Ollium, King of Munster? Does it have TWO origins? > > > > > ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, send a message to looney-L-REQUEST@RootsWeb.Com > with the command UNSUBSCRIBE as the only line in the message's body. > If you're in digest, send it to looney-D-REQUEST@RootsWeb.Com >

Karen, Thanks for responding.....what archives list???? Ginny Ayers Spann <>< VASPANN@aol.com RESEARCHING: Ayers, Bennett, Byrom, Fowler, Green, Gross, Hammontree, Kyle, Ladd, Looney, Seabolt & Stone

The archives to this Looney-List. See if the following link will get you there. If not, let me know and I'll see if I can chase it down. Karen http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/looney. At 08:10 PM 8/22/2003 -0400, you wrote: >Karen, > >Thanks for responding.....what archives list???? > > > >Ginny Ayers Spann <>< >VASPANN@aol.com >RESEARCHING: Ayers, Bennett, Byrom, Fowler, Green, Gross, Hammontree, Kyle, >Ladd, Looney, Seabolt & Stone > > >==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== >Do the Manx LOONEY/LLEWNIEs connect to the Irish LOONEY/O'LOONEYs? >Did the name originate in County Cork in 148 AD with the marriage of >Con of a Hundred Battles (High King of Ireland in 158 AD) to the >daughter of Olollar Ollium, King of Munster? Does it have TWO origins?

Does anyone out there have a Fereby Benton or Looney in your records? I seem to remember that name and am trying to help another researcher locate his "Fereby"... would appreciate your help.... Thanks, Ginny Ayers Spann <>< VASPANN@aol.com RESEARCHING: Ayers, Bennett, Byrom, Fowler, Green, Gross, Hammontree, Kyle, Ladd, Looney, Seabolt & Stone

Whew! This list has been sloooooow for a long time. Glad to see someone is still out there posting occasionally. At one time there was a lot of posts concerning the person you are requesting information on. If you can get to the List archives it may turn up something to help. Karen Luna Ray At 06:50 PM 8/22/2003 -0400, you wrote: >Does anyone out there have a Fereby Benton or Looney in your records? I seem >to remember that name and am trying to help another researcher locate his >"Fereby"... >would appreciate your help.... > >Thanks, > >Ginny Ayers Spann <>< >VASPANN@aol.com >RESEARCHING: Ayers, Bennett, Byrom, Fowler, Green, Gross, Hammontree, Kyle, >Ladd, Looney, Seabolt & Stone > > >==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== >If you find a web page somewhere listing Manx, Irish or Scotch surnames >and they don't include LOONEY/LUNA/etc., send them a note to let them >know we're around. The more advertising we have, the more help we get.

Hi Gang! Absolem Looney is not my line; I was reading through some old letters written to a distant Looney cousin and found the following information. It may not be of interest to anyone - but if so - here it is: From: Genealogy Clearing House 1115 - 21st Street Oakland 7, CA November 7, 1960 Excerpt - As I stated before I am working with a large a group of people who are all working on the Looney family records. I do not know if any of them intend to publish a Genealogy on this family or not. My personal interest arises from the fact that Absolem (4) Looney, b. 1782 Hawkins County, TN & d. 1860 Bossier Parish, LA married (1) in 1803 to Nancy Long & married (2) Eleanor "Nellie" Wilson, b. 1796 in Hawkins County, TN & d. after 1858 in Bossier Parish, LA The above Eleanor Wilson was a daughter of Samuel Wilson II and his wife Mary Elizabeth Ingraham, and the last named couple were my great-great grandparents. SIGNED: Tina Clouse, Secretary GENEALOGY CLEARING HOUSE FYI: Bossier Parish, LA is a suburb of New Orleans..... Happy Huntin' to all, Ginny Ayers Spann <>< VASPANN@aol.com RESEARCHING: Ayers, Bennett, Byrom, Fowler, Green, Gross, Hammontree, Kyle, Ladd, Looney, Seabolt & Stone

Tammy: This won't help much, I'm afraid. But perhaps it might light a little spark somewhere that will help. Bill Lewis (wol3@bellsouth.net) wrote this message on 11/5/98 9:44:37 PM. He may not even have that email address anymore. But it looks as if it may be possible that your James Floyd was that latter James that he mentions, who was born within five years of yours, since his was born in 1826, and yours in 1819. Well--not exactly five years, but pretty close:-). Do you know what county your James Floyd was born in? FLOYD James Allen Floyd was born 3 May 1826 in the Two Sisters Ferry region of Beaufort District (Near the present Tillman, Jasper, SC) and lived most of his life in that area, moving to Savannah in the 1890s. He married Selina Ann Jones about 1855 and fathered ten children, the youngest of whom, Selina Rosamond Floyd is my Grandmother. James died 2 May 1899 in Savannah, Chatham, GA. and is buried in Laurel Grove Cemetery in that city, James was both a Baptist Preacher and a Justice of the Peace. He performed numerous marriages in Hampton County. He was called Squire Floyd most of his adult life, perhaps to differentiate him from another James Floyd born in the same place and within five years of his birth. The latter James was buried in the Floyd Cemetery near Tillman. I believe my James to be the son of the widow Eleanor or Ellen Floyd and her possible husband Peter Floyd. I seek information on his parentage, his Civil War Record, and his whereabouts in 1850 (He does not appear on the 1850 Census). Will exchange info or compensate your expenses. **************************************** It seems that these were also Floyds who moved from South Carolina to Mississippi at about the same time. They may be relatives. FLOYD posted by Mark Floyd (Email: mfloyd9849@aol.com) on Wednesday, May 19, 1999 I am descended from Frederick Floyd, born 1769, and moved into Horry County about 1785. His brothers were Francis Lewis, Samuel, and James. There may have been others. I have copies of articles from the Independent Republic Quarterlies addressing these men. However, the information is vaque. Like many others, I am trying to determine the parents of these men. Where they born in NC, VA or PA? Who was Frederick's wife or wives? His children are listed below: 1) Katherine Floyd born about 1790. married Samuel Garrell, Jr. I think there was another Katherine Floyd who married Samuel, Sr. 2) Samuel Floyd born 1790/1795. Moved to Mississippi. 3) James Floyd born 1791. Moved to Mississippi. 4) Nancy Ann Floyd born abt 1795. married Patrick Lewis, son of William Lewis. 5) Patience Floyd born about 1800. married Henry Garrell. Brother of Samuel, Jr.? 6) Wright Floyd born 1802. married Demaris ? 7) Anna Jane Floyd born 1805. Married Isaac Mincey. 8) William Everett Floyd born 1806. Married Martha Jane Ware,1837, in GA. moved on to MS. 9) Hardy Floyd born 1809. Married Mardlin Thompson, Moved to MS and possibly died there. 10) Mary Floyd born: one source says 1813, another says between 1790/1799. 11) Frederick Floyd, Jr born: one source says 1814, another late 1700's. This is about all the info I have on this family. I am further descended through Wright Floyd and his wife Demaris. I dont know her last name. Any information on these families will be appreciated! I will share what I have with anyone who responds. An interesting story is that Fred Jr. was a ferry keeper in Nichols and that Nancy Ann Floyd was his half-sister. This seems to indicate Fred, Sr. may have been married twice. mark http://www.rootsweb.com/~schorry/queries/query005.htm ****************************************************** And it looks like this might be him at a more current email: markfloyd56@yahoo.com James Floyd, 1790/1795, SC Posted by: Mark Floyd (ID *****7077) Date: February 06, 2003 at 08:00:08 of 3859 James Floyd, a son of Frederick Floyd, was born in Kingston County (Horry) between 1790 - 1795. I know he migrated to Mississippi and most likely died there. Any assistance with his life and times is appreciated. Mark ************************************************** And have you tried the rootsweb.com message board for the Floyds? I didn't see any messages from you on that board, unless they were made under another name. Maybe they could help out a little, too. I know your frustration about hitting a brick wall. I just got information on my gggrandfather that I thought I'd never find in a thousand years--I made "just that one" more query, and got hit with about 300 years of information, all well-documented and researched. Don't give up hope!

Can someone help this young lady?? ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "Tammy Gautreaux" <drgautreaux@jam.rr.com> To: <r1961s@juno.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 23:42:32 -0600 Subject: Luna Family research Message-ID: <000801c346a6$0f73ab20$6401a8c0@decka> Hi, My name is Tammy. I am doing research on my family. Most of my research is on the Floyd side (it is very hard) I found your name on a message board. My grandfather was Charley Elbert Floyd he married Hattie Mae Luna b, 1900 in Miss. The only thing I know about her is that her dads name was Dave Luna and I think they were Irish. My grandfather was Indian. When I found your message I noticed that the Lunas you have listed are from Miss. I know I dont have alot of info. but I thought maybe by some chance you might know something about them. Also, they came from Tippah Co. Miss. Anything would help. Thank you Tammy Floyd-Gautreaux

Bill and Steve, Thanks much! Apparently the dbase where I got John's birthyear has a small error (transcribed 1779 birth should have read 1799) -- fixing that makes it all work and match up to the 9th District, Rogersville, 1870 Hawkins County, census information. Based almost solely on the above referenced census, I have been able to put ages on all but two of the children of John / Elizabeth. Here's what I put together by subtracting census age from census date for the children you noted plus others. Children showing in that 1870 census in their separate households include Absolom Looney (#100), John Looney (#143), Jane (Looney) Johnson (#44), Joseph P. Looney (#45), Mary Looney (#5) and Michael Jackson Looney (#39). Orville and Elizabeth were in their parents' household (#38). Children re-ordered to be in birth order, with the ones on your list marked by asterisk: * Absalom Looney (b. abt 1814, when his mother would have been 15 yrs old) * James Houston Looney [James H.not in census so no age obtained, perhaps in long 1814/1825 gap ? Matilda Looney (no other information on this child except a name) [Not in census, but in SWalls dbase? Is she a valid child of J/E? No b'yr. * Mary Ann Looney (b. abt 1825, head of household w/dau Eva) [see note below] * Michael Jackson Looney (b. abt 1827, shown with household of 1870) * John Looney (b. abt 1828, shown with household of 1870) * Joseph Payne (b. abt 1835, shown w/household of 1870) * Virginia Jane "Jane" (b. abt 1839, shown w/husband James Johnson & household) [Was James a relative of his mother-in-law Elizabeth (Johnson) Looney?] [Who was the 12yr old Jackson Johnson living in the elder's household?] * Orville B. (b. abt 1839, shown w/parents. [Were Jane and Orville twins?] [New] Elizabeth Looney (b. abt 1849, shown w/parents) [See note below] Bill, you give Mary Ann (Eliz) as one person, but what I had before plus the 1870 census record seems to substantiate a Mary [Ann?] b. about 1825 and a much younger Elizabeth (b. about 1849 and still in parent's household at age 21.) This would have made this Elizabeth's mother age 50 when she gave birth to her youngest child. Very unusual but not unheard of. You asked about Michael Jackson Looney's wife's maiden name. He was first married about 1837 (wife's name not known) and they had a son William. Then he married again in 1850/1851 to Susan CORMACK. They had at least six children [Virginia Emiline (b. abt 1851), Elizabeth (b. 1856), Julia (b. 1859), Cornelius (b. abt 1862), John (b. abt 1867) and Matilda (b. abt 1869).] Note that Mary Ann LOONEY married William E. CORMACK, who may well have been a brother to Michael Jackson's wife Susan. [NOTE: For the head-of-household "Mary Looney" in the 1870 census to be Wm Cormack's wife/widow, her husband, William Cormack would probably have died or deserted the family sometime after Eva's birth and then Mary went back to using her own family name. Her age and proximity to the other family members makes this a distinct possibility, but it is not proven.] HELP REQUESTED AGAIN? There are two additional records in this same 9th District, Rogersville, 1870 Hawkins County, census that I cannot figure out. Perhaps you can shed some light on this these individuals as well. Households #140 and 141 have me stumped. 140 LOONEY, A. S. – FARMER 38 M W TN SALLY P. 31 F W TN HESTER A. 8 M W TN EDWARD S. 7 M W TN FELIX G. 5 M W TN SIDNEY J. 1 M W TN 141 LOONEY, SARAH 70 F W TN MARGARETT 39 F W TN PEARSON, LEE – WORKING ON FARM 32 M W TN SARAH J. 35 F W TN LALLA R. 2 F W TN WILLIAM C. 1 M W TN BRICE, CAROLINE 38 F B TN JOHN 12 M B TN CLINTON 9 M B TN AMBROSE 3 M B TN (a). Who was A.S. Looney (b. abt 1832, TN)? Who were his parents? (b). Who were Sarah Looney (b. abt 1800, TN) and Margarett Looney (b. abt 1831, TN) living next door? (c). What relationships do this Caroline Brice and her children have to Columbus Brice, the first husband of Jane Looney (and father of her first three children still living with Jane in 1870)? The great puzzle continues! Great fun! All the best, Jim In a message dated 7/5/2003 12:59:36 PM Central Daylight Time, N5BRY writes: > Subj: John Looney, son of Michael(3) > Date: 7/5/2003 12:59:36 PM Central Daylight Time > From: <A HREF="mailto:N5BRY">N5BRY</A> > To: <A HREF="mailto:JimmyDCain">JimmyDCain</A> > > Jimmy- > Attached is the John Looney that was born Oct 2, 1799 in Hawkins Co. Tn. > > Bill > Cousin Jimmy - > > I am from the Absalom(1) line but have a lot of good information on the rest > of the tribe. > > John wa born Oct 2, 1799 in Hawkins Co., Tn. Died Aug 8, 1880 in Hawkins and > buried in the old Looney Cemetery. > > His wife is Elizabeth and the children I have listed are: > > Michael Jackson Looney > Mary (Eliz) Ann Looney > James Houston > John > Absalom > Joseph Payne > Virginia Jane > Orville B. > > There may be others, but this is all I have records of. Susan, wife of > Michael, do you have her maiden name? > > Thanks > > Bill

Cemetery marker transcriptions from LOONEY Cemetery at the Michael (3) Looney homeplace. [ Abasalom (2), Robert (1) ] Abt 9 miles north of Rogersville, Hawkins Co TN Off Hwy 11W on Stanley Valley Rd. Looney, John Oct 02, 1799 Aug 08, 1880 Looney, Elizabeth Aug 03, 1798 Nov 02, 1882 w/o John Looney Regards, ///Steve Looney/// > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: [LOONEY-L] Help with John Looney (b. abt 1800) and wife Elizabeth (b. about 1801) > Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 18:32:21 EDT > From: JimmyDCain@aol.com > To: LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com > > Can any of you help me reconcile date differences I have come up with on John > Looney (b. 1780/1800) and wife Elizabeth Johnson? > > Previously I had from the S WALLS geneaology database that this John Looney 4 > (Michael 3, Absolum 2, Robert 1) was born on 2 Oct 1779 in Hawkins Co, TN, d. > 8 Aug 1880) and that he married Elizabeth Johnson "abt 1800." [<A HREF="http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:a13499&id=I1795"> > http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:a13499&id=I1795</A> ] > > I have just come across the following Hawkins County Census record (<A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnhawkin/1870dis9.htm"> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnhawkin/1870dis9.htm</A> ) that gives the following: > > 38     LOONEY, JOHN – FARMER  70     M      W      TN >        ELIZABETH      71     F      W      TN >        ORVILL B.      31     M      W      TN >        ELIZABETH      21     F      W      TN >        JOHNSON, JACKSON       12     M      W      TN > > 39     LOONEY, MICHAEL – FARMER       43     M      W      TN >        SUSAN  40     F      W      TN >        VIRGINIA       19     F      W      TN >        ELIZABETH      14     F      W      TN >        JULIA  11     F      W      TN >        CORNELIUS      8      M      W      TN >        JOHN   3      M      W      TN >        MATILDA 1      F      W      TN > > I doubth that the transcription is wrong for both John and Elizabeth. By > deduction, this census record must be for the right John and Elizabeth. (Son > named Orville B., dau named Elizabeth, and boy Jackson Johnson present in the > household; house next door is their son Michael [w/~2 yr date discrepancy from > SWALLS]. Michael's household matches with wife Susan, daus Virginia, Elizabeth > and Julia (all at correct ages)+more younger children not carried there. > > I suspect that the SWalls database has assigned birth (and maybe death) date > to the WRONG John Looney. Lord knows there are enough of them <grin>. Since > census is demonstrably 20 years off John's attributed age, can anyone tell me > which John Looney WAS actually born in Oct 1779 (and his death info if also > available)? > > Thanks, > Jim Cain, a VERY distant but curious cousin. I come from the Robert (2) line.

Can any of you help me reconcile date differences I have come up with on John Looney (b. 1780/1800) and wife Elizabeth Johnson? Previously I had from the S WALLS geneaology database that this John Looney 4 (Michael 3, Absolum 2, Robert 1) was born on 2 Oct 1779 in Hawkins Co, TN, d. 8 Aug 1880) and that he married Elizabeth Johnson "abt 1800." [<A HREF="http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:a13499&id=I1795"> http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:a13499&id=I1795</A> ] I have just come across the following Hawkins County Census record (<A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnhawkin/1870dis9.htm"> http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnhawkin/1870dis9.htm</A> ) that gives the following: 38      LOONEY, JOHN – FARMER   70      M       W       TN         ELIZABETH       71      F       W       TN         ORVILL B.       31      M       W       TN         ELIZABETH       21      F       W       TN         JOHNSON, JACKSON        12      M       W       TN 39      LOONEY, MICHAEL – FARMER        43      M       W       TN         SUSAN   40      F       W       TN         VIRGINIA        19      F       W       TN         ELIZABETH       14      F       W       TN         JULIA   11      F       W       TN         CORNELIUS       8       M       W       TN         JOHN    3       M       W       TN         MATILDA 1       F       W       TN I doubth that the transcription is wrong for both John and Elizabeth. By deduction, this census record must be for the right John and Elizabeth. (Son named Orville B., dau named Elizabeth, and boy Jackson Johnson present in the household; house next door is their son Michael [w/~2 yr date discrepancy from SWALLS]. Michael's household matches with wife Susan, daus Virginia, Elizabeth and Julia (all at correct ages)+more younger children not carried there. I suspect that the SWalls database has assigned birth (and maybe death) date to the WRONG John Looney. Lord knows there are enough of them <grin>. Since census is demonstrably 20 years off John's attributed age, can anyone tell me which John Looney WAS actually born in Oct 1779 (and his death info if also available)? Thanks, Jim Cain, a VERY distant but curious cousin. I come from the Robert (2) line.

Check out this page from Leroy Tilton's Manuscripts on the Looney family. John and Isabella are both noted on this page about half way down. This is from the Robert (2) Looney Jr. line. http://www.flash.net/~johnsonl/p2_91_95.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron and/or Linda Coleman" <rcoleman2@woh.rr.com> To: <LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 4:14 PM Subject: [LOONEY-L] John LOONEY & Isabella COLEMAN . . . > Does anyone have any information on a John LOONEY b. 9 Apr. 1804 and his wife, Isabella COLEMAN, b. 18 Mar. 1804? I have been told that John's parents were Absolom LOONEY and Nancy LONG, but have no verification. I am really trying to tract down Isabella's parents and have had no luck and am trying the angle of going through her husband. They were all in TN in the early 1800's Thank you, Linda Coleman > > > ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== > Mailing List Archives may be found at: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > (Enter "looney" as the list to be searched - no quotes). >

Does anyone have any information on a John LOONEY b. 9 Apr. 1804 and his wife, Isabella COLEMAN, b. 18 Mar. 1804? I have been told that John's parents were Absolom LOONEY and Nancy LONG, but have no verification. I am really trying to tract down Isabella's parents and have had no luck and am trying the angle of going through her husband. They were all in TN in the early 1800's Thank you, Linda Coleman

John William Looney and Mary Polly Hamilton Looney were my great-great-great-great grandparents. They are buried somewhere in or around the area where I live, but I have never been able to pinpoint which cemetery exactly, although I suspect it is probably Friendship Baptist Church, which is just up the road from me. It is where Moses Looney, his father is buried, and it is where his son, my great-great-great grandfather, Francis Marion Looney along with his wife and my great-great-great grandmother, Rebekah Amanda Brown Looney, are buried. Their son, John William Looney, who was named for his grandfather, is buried at another church just a few miles away from me, called Basham Chapel Methodist. For years, I have been told that Francis Marion Looney served in the Confederate Army, along with his brother in law, and my great-great grandfather on my father's side, Andrew Jackson Brown. I have all of the paperwork on my Brown family ancestor, but nothing on Francis Marion Looney, so if anyone out there has anything on him that they would not mind sharing, I'd love to hear from you. Francis Marion died around 40 years of age, so he did not live long enough to draw a pension, if he did serve. While digging for records on Francis Marion Looney, I did come across the service records of his brother, Madison W. "Matt" Looney, who served with "B" Company of the 20th Mississippi Infantry Regiment (Confederate States of America Army). I hope that this is able to help some of you out. I don't live far from most of the sites in and around where our Looney ancestors lived here in North Alabama, so if any of you are up this way and want to see any of the cemeteries, just drop me a line. Thanks, Derek Brown 565 Brown Road Danville, AL 35619

Larry, I was just following your instructions

I descend thru Joseph from Mary Polly. I have a picture of Joseph's tombstone and a photocopy of a picture of his home. John was the third child of Joseph and Ruthie Shortridge. He and Ruthie never married. John was probably born in 1827, since he is listed in the 1860 census, aged 33 years of age. He died about 1890, in Pike Co, Ky where he lived. He married 3 wives from this county, the first occurring 11/30/1848 to Mary Ann Childress, the daughter of Flem Childress. the second occurring 10/06/1853 to Emertie Rowe who is believed to be a daughter of Jacob Rowe; and the thrid occurring 5/15/1872 to Elizabeth Bentley Jackson, the daughter of Fenjamin and Anna Ramey (Bentley) Jackson. There were 2 children by the first marriage, nine by the second marriage and four by the third marriage. Mary Lee Murray marylee@elkhart.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Murphy" <murphyb1@earthlink.net> To: <LOONEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [LOONEY-L] Moses Looney I am a novice at genealogy, and I am trying to find my "Looney" lineage. I have traced back to John Looney. My did was Bill Looney from Pike Co. Ky. The line goes back as follows: Miles P. Looney & Mary Bowling, Jacob & Elizabeth Owens, John & Emerita Rowe, Joseph B. & Ruthie Shortridge, John & E;izabeth Walker, Capt. John Looney & Esther Renfro, Robert Looney & Margaret Rhea, Robert & Elizabeth Llewellyn, and finally John Looney. If anyone has any information they would share with me, I would truly areciate it. Thanks. Barbara Murphy ==== LOONEY Mailing List ==== Do the Manx LOONEY/LLEWNIEs connect to the Irish LOONEY/O'LOONEYs? Did the name originate in County Cork in 148 AD with the marriage of Con of a Hundred Battles (High King of Ireland in 158 AD) to the daughter of Olollar Ollium, King of Munster? Does it have TWO origins?

My father's Daddy was Mile P. (Phineas) b. 1894 Pike Co. Jacob b.1 abt. 1861, John b. abt. 1827 and Joseph B. Now I am confused from what Larry said about the rest of the line that I thought were correct. I definitely want to be correct in what I have. (smile) Thank you for responding.