Wrong info. groups.io has a free option amongst other paying options Hugh On Fri, 10 Jan 2020 at 10:56, John W. Kitz <John.Kitz-gen@xs4all.nl> wrote: > Nivard, > > Having followed various exchanges on Dutch genealogy groups on the topic of > genealogy mailing lists it is my understanding that the service of > groups.io > is not free of charge, which may be an issue when choosing an alternative > for other similar services that have so far been free of charge. > > As for Yahoo's decision, messages only IMHO suffice for genealogy in so far > as that I can't think of any other functionality that I need for that. As > for Rootsweb's decision, who is to say that alternatives such as Facebook > or > Twitter are going to exist forever? A reduction of services or a usage fee > for some or all social media or even the end of one or more platforms maybe > unthinkable now, but who knows what the future brings (see e.g. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyves). > > On at least on occasion I've suggested that in the Netherlands the Central > Bureau for Family history, the National Archive or some other similar > government institute with an affinity to genealogy would provide a basic > service free of charge using a free of charge product like > https://www.list.org/. > > Those who have more advanced needs, such as exchange images and who don't > mind the hassle of having to log onto to dozens of forums, social media > platforms and what not, then can do so at their leisure, leaving users with > less intricate needs with the choice to use one or more email lists, such > as > this one. > > Regards, Jk. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nivard Ovington [mailto:ovington.one@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, 09 January, 2020 22:10 > To: london@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LONDON] Re: Demise of rootsweb lists > > Hi Jk > > I have tried Yahoo groups in the past and wasn't overly impressed > > As you say they have reduced functionality to the point of messages > only, and who is to say they will not pull the plug completely at some > point > > I would still advocate io lists over the other options available so far > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 09/01/2020 21:03, John W. Kitz wrote: > > Nivard, > > > > Groups for most Dutch provinces can be found on > https://groups.yahoo.com/. > > Although it is my understanding that Yahoo have reduced the functionality > of > > their free groups to some degree. But the email list functionality, which > is > > the most important one for typical use, has remained as far as I know. > > > > Regards, Jk. > > _______________________________________________ > To Post to this list: > london@rootsweb.com > > Contact the Listowner: > Dee Pavey > london-owner@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/london@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > To Post to this list: > london@rootsweb.com > > Contact the Listowner: > Dee Pavey > london-owner@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/london@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >
Hugh, Nivard and others, I haven't looked into groups.io's services myself and for anyone who has read my previous post it ought to have been obvious I merely stating my understanding of groups.io's services based on some email exchanges I followed on some Dutch Yahoo groups. In some of those exchanges following Yahoo's decision to reduce the services of their group service some individuals offered to setup a group on groups.io. If my memory serves me correctly in at least one such case a message included a bank account number and a request to share in some annual service fee by transferring money to that account. I might be wrong, but it seemed a scam to me. Regards, Jk. From: hugh [mailto:hugh@xtra.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, 09 January, 2020 23:04 To: John.Kitz-gen@xs4all.nl; london@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LONDON] Re: Demise of rootsweb lists Wrong info. groups.io has a free option amongst other paying options Hugh On Fri, 10 Jan 2020 at 10:56, John W. Kitz <John.Kitz-gen@xs4all.nl> wrote: Nivard, Having followed various exchanges on Dutch genealogy groups on the topic of genealogy mailing lists it is my understanding that the service of groups.io is not free of charge, which may be an issue when choosing an alternative for other similar services that have so far been free of charge. As for Yahoo's decision, messages only IMHO suffice for genealogy in so far as that I can't think of any other functionality that I need for that. As for Rootsweb's decision, who is to say that alternatives such as Facebook or Twitter are going to exist forever? A reduction of services or a usage fee for some or all social media or even the end of one or more platforms maybe unthinkable now, but who knows what the future brings (see e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyves). On at least on occasion I've suggested that in the Netherlands the Central Bureau for Family history, the National Archive or some other similar government institute with an affinity to genealogy would provide a basic service free of charge using a free of charge product like https://www.list.org/. Those who have more advanced needs, such as exchange images and who don't mind the hassle of having to log onto to dozens of forums, social media platforms and what not, then can do so at their leisure, leaving users with less intricate needs with the choice to use one or more email lists, such as this one. Regards, Jk. -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington [mailto:ovington.one@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 09 January, 2020 22:10 To: london@rootsweb.com Subject: [LONDON] Re: Demise of rootsweb lists Hi Jk I have tried Yahoo groups in the past and wasn't overly impressed As you say they have reduced functionality to the point of messages only, and who is to say they will not pull the plug completely at some point I would still advocate io lists over the other options available so far Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 09/01/2020 21:03, John W. Kitz wrote: > Nivard, > > Groups for most Dutch provinces can be found on https://groups.yahoo.com/. > Although it is my understanding that Yahoo have reduced the functionality of > their free groups to some degree. But the email list functionality, which is > the most important one for typical use, has remained as far as I know. > > Regards, Jk. _______________________________________________ To Post to this list: london@rootsweb.com Contact the Listowner: Dee Pavey london-owner@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/london@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ To Post to this list: london@rootsweb.com Contact the Listowner: Dee Pavey london-owner@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/london@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Just to say, I have now joined a move of two of my mailing lists to Groups.io <http://groups.io/> and it seems others are going that way. It would be great to have all the mailing lists on the same portal so to speak. Juliet > On 9 Jan 2020, at 22:19, John W. Kitz <John.Kitz-gen@xs4all.nl> wrote: > > Hugh, Nivard and others, > > > > I haven't looked into groups.io's services myself and for anyone who has read my previous post it ought to have been obvious I merely stating my understanding of groups.io's services based on some email exchanges I followed on some Dutch Yahoo groups. In some of those exchanges following Yahoo's decision to reduce the services of their group service some individuals offered to setup a group on groups.io. If my memory serves me correctly in at least one such case a message included a bank account number and a request to share in some annual service fee by transferring money to that account. I might be wrong, but it seemed a scam to me. > > > > Regards, Jk. > > > > From: hugh [mailto:hugh@xtra.co.nz] > Sent: Thursday, 09 January, 2020 23:04 > To: John.Kitz-gen@xs4all.nl; london@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LONDON] Re: Demise of rootsweb lists > > > > Wrong info. > > > > groups.io has a free option amongst other paying options > > > > Hugh > >