Do you have a 'brick wall'. Something about someone you have wanted to find, but haven't' , and it drives you mad, not knowing? If so, let us hear about it! +++++++++++++++++++++++++ Further to Lyn's message may I repost an earlier request in my search for John FRY whom I think must have been born around 1770 (among many others) in the London area. I have copied relative details below together with other replies etc that will indicate that my IGI findings were incorrect. Will you please read them and if at all possible comment on what further research is possible. Thank you for any help you can give me. Kind Regards. George Fry (now housebound and a superannuant) 454 S. H. 1. Mt Pleasant R.D.3 Blenheim 7273 New Zealand Email George.F.Fry@xtra.co.nz Listowner FRY_UK@yahoogroups.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- COPY Hello Gordon, Many thanks for your reply to my posting. It would seem that my John can not be the one related to your wife's ancestor as I am aware that mine was living in London for some time before his death which unfortunately have no detail of. Coincidently I have also just had a message from Chris Wheeler in similar vein regarding his wife's FRY ancestry to the same family (John & Maria) which I feel may be of interest to yourselves. Copy attached below for information. I will also tell Chris of our contact when I reply to his message shortly. Again many thanks and kind regards, George Fry 454 S. H. 1. Mt Pleasant R.D.3 Blenheim 7273 New Zealand Email George.F.Fry@xtra.co.nz Listowner FRY_UK@yahoogroups.com See my web page http://frank1928.tribalpages.com Visitor password picton2002 =============================== Hi George I don't know if you have had an previous responses to your request for information (in 2008) but I am replying in case you have had no responses yet. I believe that the christenings at Allhallows the Great which you have mentioned relate to the family of my wife (who is descended from another child of John & Maria Fry- also Thomas Fry born in 1783 and christened at Allhallows - presumably Thomas Price Whitmore Fry died before 1783 but I have no evidence of that). If I am correct, there is no obvious connection between your ancestor living in Southwark and my wife's ancestors who lived north of the Thames (Hoxton). However, I realise that you may have other information to the contrary - if so could you please let me know. My wife has some 19th century family letters which give information that, when traced back through another child of John & and Maria - John Fry (1774-1818), show that there was a family connection with the slave trade, which came as a bit of a shock. If you would like more information about my wife's family please let me know and I will pass it on. Kind Regards Chris Wheeler Havelock North (Chris Wheeler <chrisx2@ihug.co.nz>) =================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: Gordon Bonnet To: George.F.Fry@xtra.co.nz Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 1:59 AM Subject: Fry family, London Dear Mr. Fry: I recently came across your query, which I have excerpted below: My ancestor John FRY Currier and wife Harriet JONES were living in Southwark in 1800 with 3 children, John, Harriet and Matthew. Son John was christened on 11 Jul 1795 in St Sepulchre, London, the other 2 were christened in St John Horsleydown Surrey. A marriage entry shows that a John FRY and Harriet Jones were wed on the 5 Jan 1794 at the Parish Church, Allhallows, Bread Street, London, All these facts appear to be correct. Having further searched the IGI recently I have found the entry below that could be my John's birth, dated 11 May 1774 together with 4 siblings all at All Hallows the Great London. Parents John FRY and Maria ?? As I am unable to view the Parish records I am asking for help to either confirm or deny what I assume to be a further generation back. I'm sorry to let you know that the John Fry born to John and Maria in London in 1774 is almost certainly not your forebear. The John Fry born in 1774 emigrated to Jamaica, where he married Mary Jones Dunbar in 1801 and had three children, including my wife's ancestor Mary Susannah (Fry) Hylton. Unless the marriage to Harriet Jones was a first (and short-lived) marriage, it is unlikely that your John Fry and my wife's ancestor are one and the same. cheers, Gordon Bonnet Trumansburg NY USA