Going back to my recent and obviously questionable (up for interpretation!) of his birth as Camp Shanks, in New York -- if he was born into the military, military families were often on the move so records were often scattered..... So perhaps consider that this was a military family ....? at least at one time. Have you tried the military records. Interesting to see if he was a US native or UK citizen.... eh? Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robyn Clarke" <rsclarke@bigpond.com> To: "'Ron Lankshear'" <ronlank@yahoo.com.au> Cc: <LONDON@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 8:15 AM Subject: Re: [LON] 1901 Census Entry PASCALL > Hi Ron, > > As someone who has never been to England I've got no idea as to why he was > shown as born West Ham and Lincolnshire, except one opinion was that > perhaps > the child was registered somewhere other than where he was born...... > I have not bought any certificates for this family, as it is not mine, I'm > doing it all for a friend who is related to a later Pascall family member > and I have access to the various sites without naming names. > > I'm wondering why the family is not a unit in 1890 census just at the time > Alfred is born. Even if Edward was sailing off somewhere, one would have > thought Eugene should have been around........ > > Anyway, thank you for your thoughts and suggestions......For some strange > reason their Marriage which was registered Poplars, London 1887 is not in > the London Marriage Indexes, as that may have given me more > information.....for my current subscription. > > Cheers, > Robyn > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ron Lankshear [mailto:ronlank@yahoo.com.au] > Sent: Sunday, 6 November 2011 11:40 PM > To: Robyn Clarke > Cc: LONDON@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LON] 1901 Census Entry PASCALL > > It reads like Carmaphack, West Mane presumably West Maine hence a > statistician has written USA. > > But could it all be wrong in that the enumerator could not read the > writing > or get clarification and its something or other in West Ham??? > > I agree no sign of in 1891 or Edward in any other census including > USA....... > > Also why is Alfred shown as born Lincolnshire and yet registered in West > Ham..... > > Have you seen the boys birth certificates do they add anything and the > marriage any witnesses that might be related to Edward? > > Ron Lankshear -Sydney NSW (from London-Shepherds > Bush/Chiswick) > try my links > http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lankshear/ > > On 2011-11-06 4:17 PM, Robyn Clarke wrote: >> He was found in 1901 with wife, EUGENIE PASCALL nee RENOUF born >> Jersey, at >> 70 Lawrence Ave., East Ham, Living on own means and stating born >> Car..................USA. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > This mailing list works in parallel with the London surname interest list > on the web at http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/london.html . Check for > matching interests and add your own ! > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: LONDON-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LONDON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for your thoughts Marilyn, I have done searches on two well-known FH websites to which I subscribe at time.....no sign of anything Military, or even Passenger listings.... His wife Eugene is found in Brentwood Essex in 1911 as a Widow, housekeeper......with a daughter Laurie, born 1903 who has appeared without trace. So my mystery continues..... Cheers, Robyn -----Original Message----- From: Marilyn L. Arnold [mailto:marilyn.arnold1@verizon.net] Sent: Monday, 7 November 2011 1:12 AM To: Robyn Clarke; 'Ron Lankshear' Cc: LONDON@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LON] 1901 Census Entry PASCALL Going back to my recent and obviously questionable (up for interpretation!) of his birth as Camp Shanks, in New York -- if he was born into the military, military families were often on the move so records were often scattered..... So perhaps consider that this was a military family ....? at least at one time. Have you tried the military records. Interesting to see if he was a US native or UK citizen.... eh? Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robyn Clarke" <rsclarke@bigpond.com> To: "'Ron Lankshear'" <ronlank@yahoo.com.au> Cc: <LONDON@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 8:15 AM Subject: Re: [LON] 1901 Census Entry PASCALL > Hi Ron, > > As someone who has never been to England I've got no idea as to why he was > shown as born West Ham and Lincolnshire, except one opinion was that > perhaps > the child was registered somewhere other than where he was born...... > I have not bought any certificates for this family, as it is not mine, I'm > doing it all for a friend who is related to a later Pascall family member > and I have access to the various sites without naming names. > > I'm wondering why the family is not a unit in 1890 census just at the time > Alfred is born. Even if Edward was sailing off somewhere, one would have > thought Eugene should have been around........ > > Anyway, thank you for your thoughts and suggestions......For some strange > reason their Marriage which was registered Poplars, London 1887 is not in > the London Marriage Indexes, as that may have given me more > information.....for my current subscription. > > Cheers, > Robyn > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ron Lankshear [mailto:ronlank@yahoo.com.au] > Sent: Sunday, 6 November 2011 11:40 PM > To: Robyn Clarke > Cc: LONDON@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LON] 1901 Census Entry PASCALL > > It reads like Carmaphack, West Mane presumably West Maine hence a > statistician has written USA. > > But could it all be wrong in that the enumerator could not read the > writing > or get clarification and its something or other in West Ham??? > > I agree no sign of in 1891 or Edward in any other census including > USA....... > > Also why is Alfred shown as born Lincolnshire and yet registered in West > Ham..... > > Have you seen the boys birth certificates do they add anything and the > marriage any witnesses that might be related to Edward? > > Ron Lankshear -Sydney NSW (from London-Shepherds > Bush/Chiswick) > try my links > http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lankshear/ > > On 2011-11-06 4:17 PM, Robyn Clarke wrote: >> He was found in 1901 with wife, EUGENIE PASCALL nee RENOUF born >> Jersey, at >> 70 Lawrence Ave., East Ham, Living on own means and stating born >> Car..................USA. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > This mailing list works in parallel with the London surname interest list > on the web at http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/london.html . Check for > matching interests and add your own ! > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: LONDON-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LONDON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message