This particular Haynes family have been a problem from the start, but brick by brick I have knocked a hole in the wall over 15 years and. With the help of LMA records now available on Ancestry a few more bricks have fallen out as well but, one question answered brings up more questions. I have now found my Gt Gt Grandfathers baptism and found he had at least one brother, this other brother is now proving just as difficult to find as my Gt Gt Grandfather. I found an entry on the 1851 census which looks correct but cannot find any further entries on 61,71,81 etc. I am not surprised about not finding them on 41 as i know some bits are missing I have tried husband, wife and all the boys – I realise the daughter could be married by 61 census. Please could someone else have a look and hopefully find them under a stone that I haven’t seen HO107 1515 384 36 23 Red Lion Alley, St Sepulchre, Finsbury, Middlesex Haynes, Thomas  40  1811  Drover  b St Lukes              Eleanor      36   1815 General Dealer  Clerkenwell              Robert      17    1834  Errand Boy   St Andrews, Holborn              Thomas    15   1836   Scholar       Clerkenwell            Elizabeth   12    1839     “                 Clerkenwell             Charles     5      1846      “                 Clerkenwell                 William 3      1848      “                 Clerkenwell                 John      1      1850                         Clerkenwell I found a marriage for Thomas Haynes to Eleanor Parker  24 Feb 1834 at St Andrews, Holborn but as it is before 1837, it does not contain Thomas’s father’s name to make this a definite match. I also found a baptism for a Robert Haynes at St Thomas Charterhouse in 1847 – Parents Thomas and Ellen. But no other children’s baptisms on either in LMA records or family search Any ideas Please Many thanks in anticipation Kay