Hi, My brick wall relates to a Yates family. My gt gt grandfather's name was James Yates Grimwood and his mother, we believe was Sarah Grimwood. Where the Yates came from we do not have any idea but James was born 24 May 1824 and christened on 25 Jan 1831 at St Andrew's Holborn. His mother is named as Sarah Grimwood and father unknown. As Grimwood is a very Suffolk name I am wondering if anyone can throw any light upon Sarah. I did have a message saying that there was a possibility that a Sarah found in 1841 census as a servant in Marylebone and born out of county may possibly be the mother. If anyone can help I would be grateful. Best wishes Sue in Suffolk

Sue, According to the 1861 census (which I presume you have) at RG9; Piece: 344; Folio: 146; Page: 36; all his family continued to use the Yates name ( though some of them have it transcribed as Gates in this census) He married Mary Ann Cooper on 5 May 1845 at St Andrew Holborn, and says there his fathers name was also James Yates Grimwood ( though that may well have been a convenient fiction) Name: James Yates Grimwood Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824 Spouse Name: Mary Ann Cooper Spouse Age: 21 Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 05 May 1845 Parish: St Andrew Holborn County: London Borough: City of London Father Name: James Yates Grimwood Spouse Father Name: John Cooper. The marriage certificate says his father was a greengrocer, as he was and doesn't say he is deceased. The witnesses were John & Sarah Cooper - presumably Mary Ann's parents. I see the Baptism register entry states he is the Illegitimate son of Sarah Grimwood. In the 1841 census he is with a Mary Yates ( no relationships in that census unfortunately!) Could this be a grandmother? Could his mother be Sarah Yates and only pretended to be Sarah Grimwood to baptise her child with his father's surname? James Yates Greenwood [James Yates Grimwood] Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 Gender: Male Where born: Middlesex, England Civil parish: White Friars Precinct Hundred: London Without the Walls County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address: Water Lane Registration district: London Sub-registration district: London South West Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 728 Book: 9 Folio: 7 Page Number: 7 Household Members: Name Age Mary Ann Yates 45 Susannah Marner 15 James Yates Greenwood 15 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 728; Book: 9; Civil Parish: White Friars Precinct; County: Middlesex; Enumeration District: 12; Folio: 7; Page: 7; Line: 8; GSU roll: 438832. Anne On 25 Oct 2011, at 11:31, Sue wrote: > Hi, > My brick wall relates to a Yates family. > > My gt gt grandfather's name was James Yates Grimwood and his mother, we believe was Sarah Grimwood. Where the Yates came from we do not have any idea but James was born 24 May 1824 and christened on 25 Jan 1831 at St Andrew's Holborn. His mother is named as Sarah Grimwood and father unknown. > > As Grimwood is a very Suffolk name I am wondering if anyone can throw any light upon Sarah. > > I did have a message saying that there was a possibility that a Sarah found in 1841 census as a servant in Marylebone and born out of county may possibly be the mother. > > If anyone can help I would be grateful. > > Best wishes > > Sue in Suffolk > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > This mailing list works in parallel with the London surname interest list on the web at http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/london.html . Check for matching interests and add your own ! > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: LONDON-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LONDON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message