Valerie, can you tell us James's rank/occupation and place of abode in the 1834 baptism? Presumably, you have an address for George in 1876-7? What information are you looking for? (I have some ideas but their validity may depend on your answers!). Best wishes, John Townsend Antiquarian Bookseller/Genealogist http://www.johntownsend.demon.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Valerie Bayliss" <v.bayliss@btinternet.com> To: <LONDON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 3:08 PM Subject: [LON] Brick Wall - GEORGE ROBSON WAGNER >I have been struggling with this individual for ages. He was a nephew of my >4xgt-grandfather; his parents were James Wagner and his wife Louisa, nee >Robson. George was baptised in Feb 1834 at St Saviour, Southwark [with his >sister]. I have him in the 1841 census, boarding at a school in Lambeth. > > After that, he seems to have disappeared: > > 1 He is not the George Wagner who married Letitia Saffery in 1849 [our > George would only have been 15 at the time, and the family details are > wrong]. > 2 The George Wagner, potman, in Bermondsey in the 1851C is almost 10 years > too young, which even by standards of the time makes it unlikely this was > my man - though it can't perhaps be ruled out. > 3 There is a bankruptcy petition in the London Gazette in 1855-6 and a > record of conviction for larceny and housebreaking in 1887, both for a > George Wagner, but nothing to tell me if it was George Robson Wagner. > 4 There is a possible death in FBMD in 1890; George Wagner, aged 63 - > about right - in Fulham. > > And that's it, except that in 1876-7 he [with his younger brother Henry > Robson Wagner, who I have traced] was a co-plaintiff in a family legal > action with my 3xgt-grandfather, his first cousin, for which I have a copy > of part of an affidavit which gives their full names. > I have traced his family in successive cenuses after 1841 and George is > not with them. > > So I'm at a standstill! Any ideas, please? Help very gratefully received! > from > Valerie in sunny Sheffield UK