Hi Nivard, Thanks for that. Why do they have to make it so complex? I have ordered wills from Cheshire and Lancashire before and it is find your will, pay and it drops through the letter box. Here I am struggling with this form. What is "Grant type"? I suppose the issuing registry is London. Is the Grant issue date the probate date? Is the address the one on the death certificate? What is a DX number? And Exchange? Can you translate for me please? Christine -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 7:41 PM To: Christine Benson ; London Mailing List Subject: Re: [LON] Post 1858 wills Hi Christine All 1858 onwards wills can be ordered from http://www.justice.gov.uk/guidance/courts-and-tribunals/courts/probate/copies-of-grants-wills.htm If you found the entry on Ancestry there is a link there also (it does not go via Ancestry unlike their certificate orders) Look on the above page for form PA1S which has all the details Its now £6 Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) I have found the probate for William BENSON as below:- BENSON William of 4 Ellison-road Streatham common Surrey died 26 November 1893 Probate London 29 January to Elizabeth Edith White (wife of Charles Ernest White) Effects £660 Am I right in assuming there was a will and if so where do I find the right place to order it? Every index I look at only seems to go up to 1858 and whilst I understand the system changed, there must be a way of ordering post 1858 wills. Any advice/information gratefully appreciated. Christine