Hi Sherrie, Have you got Frederick's birth certificate? The birth in Shoreditch on FreeBMD looks promising but there are other possibles. If you have got it then what is the exact place of birth? On the census returns there are no exact matches but maybe one parent died and the other remarried. I can send you the likely ones off list if you want. Let me know. There is a tree on Ancestry about a Frederick but, at a quick glance, I see no census details. Is it your tree? That shows him as Frederick John NEWMAN b 1887 married Louise Grace BOYER with a sibling Eric A. NEWMAN b 1890. Is this your family? Or it could be another Frederick. Let me know a bit more, even if on some things it is "I don't know", and I will see what I can find. Christine -----Original Message----- From: S Smith Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:36 PM To: london@rootsweb.com Subject: [LON] census look in 1891 & 1901 for my Great Grandpa Please! Hi. Could someone please look up census for 1891 & 1901 for my Great Grandpa: Frederick Newman Birth Date: Jun 1885 Birthplace: London, England His Parents were Frederick & Mary Newman. They were both born in England too, as stated on my Great Grandpa's death certificate. I have Frederick Newman on the 1911 & 1920, but by then he is married with his own kids. I'm trying to find him with his parents & maybe siblings?? My Mom ordered the marriage cert. but it did not help with any information on his parents. Thanks for the help! Sherrie Smith