Hi Brian I have had another look for your APPS and find its hard work with no obvious start points As I posted last time, there are no Charles APPS registered, at least not under Walworth The nearest I found was Name: William Charles Apps Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1889 Registration district: Kingston Inferred County: Middlesex, Surrey Volume: 2a Page: 857 Which is in the right quarter if his age is correct on his Navy record If his parents moved to Walworth whilst he was very small he may have thought thats where he was born On the 1915 marriage, which is his? who did he marry and where ? Was there an address on the certificate? Was he conscripted into the Navy or did he join up ? What period did he serve Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hello All > This maybe a long shot for yourselves, but looking for the above. > On my gfathers marriage cert. 1915 it states that his father was William > Edward Apps, and his occupation was a Hopswarehouseman, deceased. > My gfather Charles and William Edward are a mystery before 1915. > So if SKS can come to my assistance with any help, I thank you in advance. > On my gfathers navy record he was born Walworth 1889, London, his name was > Charles Apps. > Regards Brian