Hello: I am looking for the Baptism record for John GALLEY, who was born in 1868 @ Whitechapel, London. His parents were married on September 12, 1866 @ St. Jude's Church, Commercial Street, Whitechapel, so I suspect that he was likely Baptised there as well. Dennis Galley, Port Elgin, Ontario, Canada

Is there anyone else researching Netherclift or Atherton in the Battersea area in the early 1900's? Paula

Hi I just check my inbox. Hope you had an answer but I couldn't read any on the list. anyway here is a little explanation : your Great Grandfather must have been a soldier during WWI disembodiment means that the soldier is allowed to leave is corp. demobilization means that he is officially released from duty. the dates are sometimes different in peace time when the soldier takes the remaining holidays before definitively leaving the army. hope that helps Anthony -------------------------------------------------- From: <london-request@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 9:00 AM To: <london@rootsweb.com> Subject: LONDON Digest, Vol 6, Issue 173 > > > There is a webpage for the the London List at : www.londonlist.org.uk/ > This mailing list works in parallel with the London surname interest list > on the web at http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/london.html . Check for > matching interests and add your own ! > > Today's Topics: > > 1. certificate of disembodiment on demobilization (Alison Stoneman) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 17:55:30 +0100 > From: Alison Stoneman <astoneman@live.com> > Subject: [LON] certificate of disembodiment on demobilization > To: London List a <london@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <SNT136-w579B13E8F9430334C06C9C3980@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > i have a certificate of disembodiment on demobilization from1919 for my > Great Grandfather. > > What does this mean exactly please? > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the LONDON list administrator, send an email to > LONDON-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the LONDON mailing list, send an email to > LONDON@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LONDON-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of LONDON Digest, Vol 6, Issue 173 > ************************************** >

On 2011/05/09 15:41, Mike Fry wrote: > I wonder if someone with more luck(?) than I've had in the last 5 years or so, > can locate the 1861 census entry for an elusive Great-great Aunt of mine. Ooops! She was a Great-great-great-aunt of mine! -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg

I wonder if someone with more luck(?) than I've had in the last 5 years or so, can locate the 1861 census entry for an elusive Great-great Aunt of mine. I know where she was born, and where she died and just about everything else about her other than where she was in 1861! Let's start with some basics. Her name was Jemima Nancy SCHWARTZ, and she was born on 20th June 1844 in Whitechapel. This date, albeit that it comes from an IGI Patron submission, fits very well with the FreeBMD registration from Jul-Aug-Sep 1844, Whitechapel vol 2 page 517. I've not found a record of her Baptism, but as there are hints of non-conformity in the family, I am not totally surprised. Her parents were John Frederick SCHWARTZ and Hannah Elizabeth SMITH. He was a Gunsmith in Whitechapel. They had 6 other children that I know of. Elizabeth Mary, John William, Charles Frederick, Hannah Lydia, Lydia Ruth and Eliza Emily. All are fairly well documented. So far as I know, and her death registration seems to confirm the fact, Jemima never married and had no children. Her death registration is another puzzle that I have yet to grapple with. She died in Apr-May-Jun 1931 (good age that!) in Worcester vol 6c page 130 at an age of 86. Again, good correlation with the dob! I have no idea why she was in Worcester in 1931. It's not an area that the family seems to have any association with. They're Londoners and, latterly, people from Essex or the South-East. Anyway, to the known facts. In 1851, she's in Marylebone, with an Uncle & Aunt and a Grandmother. HO107 Piece:1495 Folio:412 pages 1 and 2. Good English names these! Gottlieb Sebastian & Ann SCHWARTZ, a cab proprietor just off of Grays Inn Rd. The Grandmother, Elizabeth is with her second husband, Charles IRONHART from Prussia (13 May 1822, St Dunstan, Stepney) She was formerly a SCHWARTZ, but what her maiden name was, I have no idea. Her occupation of Governess seems to me to be significant. Training? Because the next record I have for Jemima is the 1871 census in which she is recorded as being a Children's Nurse with the very prominent, Victorian family of Edward Hugesson Knatchbull-Hugesson in Upper Grosvenor St, Belgravia. He was an MP for Faversham in Kent and eventually became the 1st Baron Brabourne. At one time, he was an Under-secretary for the Colonies in the Russell(?) government. See RG10 Piece:99 Folio:12 page 16 and Folio 13 page 17. In 1881, and through to 1901, Jemima is to be found living with her widowed sister Lydia (now WEST) in Harwich, Essex. The references are. RG11 Piece 1782 Folio 15 Page 23 RG12 Piece 1402 Folio 115 Page 3 RG13 Piece 1699 Folio 69 Page 20 In the later images, they are listed as Confectioners, which gives me the warm, fuzzy idea, that they were two old ladies running a sweet-shop :-) In 1911, she's staying with another sister, Hannah Lydia (now BALDOCK) in Southborough, Kent. After that, I have nothing until her death in 1931. So! Where was she in 1861? -- Regards & thanks for listening, Mike Fry Johannesburg

Hi Mike, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Fry" <fredbonzo@iafrica.com> > On 2011/05/09 15:41, Mike Fry wrote: >> I wonder if someone with more luck(?) than I've had in the last 5 years or so, >> can locate the 1861 census entry for an elusive Great-great Aunt of mine. > > Ooops! She was a Great-great-great-aunt of mine! > > -- > Regards,> Mike Fry> Johannesburg Not to worry:-) I'm pretty certain parts of Belgravia are missing for 1861. Have you tracked down the KNATCHBULL-HUGGESONs in 1861 to see if she is already with them? Its a fair bet that KNATCHBULL-HUGGESON family papers have survived, either deposited somewhere [try A2A] or still with the family. Google may also help. If she was Nanny foe any length of time she may also feature in any published memoirs/biography, but possibly under a pet-name. Kind regards, John Henley

Mike As mentioned a few weeks ago, there are parts of the 1861 census that were destroyed. A small part is missing - schedules 369 to 441 which it seems would include 165 Drury Lane. There is damage to the pages before and after the missing part. My grandfather was on Drury Lane/ Tough! David On 9 May 2011 14:41, Mike Fry <fredbonzo@iafrica.com> wrote: > I wonder if someone with more luck(?) than I've had in the last 5 years or > so, > can locate the 1861 census entry for an elusive Great-great Aunt of mine. I > know > where she was born, and where she died and just about everything else about > her > other than where she was in 1861! > > Let's start with some basics. Her name was Jemima Nancy SCHWARTZ, and she > was > born on 20th June 1844 in Whitechapel. This date, albeit that it comes from > an > IGI Patron submission, fits very well with the FreeBMD registration from > Jul-Aug-Sep 1844, Whitechapel vol 2 page 517. I've not found a record of > her > Baptism, but as there are hints of non-conformity in the family, I am not > totally surprised. > > Her parents were John Frederick SCHWARTZ and Hannah Elizabeth SMITH. He was > a > Gunsmith in Whitechapel. They had 6 other children that I know of. > Elizabeth > Mary, John William, Charles Frederick, Hannah Lydia, Lydia Ruth and Eliza > Emily. > All are fairly well documented. > > So far as I know, and her death registration seems to confirm the fact, > Jemima > never married and had no children. Her death registration is another puzzle > that > I have yet to grapple with. She died in Apr-May-Jun 1931 (good age that!) > in > Worcester vol 6c page 130 at an age of 86. Again, good correlation with the > dob! > I have no idea why she was in Worcester in 1931. It's not an area that the > family seems to have any association with. They're Londoners and, latterly, > people from Essex or the South-East. > > Anyway, to the known facts. > > In 1851, she's in Marylebone, with an Uncle & Aunt and a Grandmother. HO107 > Piece:1495 Folio:412 pages 1 and 2. Good English names these! Gottlieb > Sebastian > & Ann SCHWARTZ, a cab proprietor just off of Grays Inn Rd. The Grandmother, > Elizabeth is with her second husband, Charles IRONHART from Prussia (13 May > 1822, St Dunstan, Stepney) She was formerly a SCHWARTZ, but what her maiden > name > was, I have no idea. Her occupation of Governess seems to me to be > significant. > Training? > > Because the next record I have for Jemima is the 1871 census in which she > is > recorded as being a Children's Nurse with the very prominent, Victorian > family > of Edward Hugesson Knatchbull-Hugesson in Upper Grosvenor St, Belgravia. He > was > an MP for Faversham in Kent and eventually became the 1st Baron Brabourne. > At > one time, he was an Under-secretary for the Colonies in the Russell(?) > government. See RG10 Piece:99 Folio:12 page 16 and Folio 13 page 17. > > In 1881, and through to 1901, Jemima is to be found living with her widowed > sister Lydia (now WEST) in Harwich, Essex. The references are. > > RG11 Piece 1782 Folio 15 Page 23 > RG12 Piece 1402 Folio 115 Page 3 > RG13 Piece 1699 Folio 69 Page 20 > > In the later images, they are listed as Confectioners, which gives me the > warm, > fuzzy idea, that they were two old ladies running a sweet-shop :-) > > In 1911, she's staying with another sister, Hannah Lydia (now BALDOCK) in > Southborough, Kent. After that, I have nothing until her death in 1931. > > So! Where was she in 1861? > > -- > Regards & thanks for listening, > Mike Fry > Johannesburg > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > This mailing list works in parallel with the London surname interest list > on the web at http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/london.html . Check for > matching interests and add your own ! > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: LONDON-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LONDON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi John I have just tried the search by address on Find My Past and sure enough Green Lane Battersea comes up with lots of house numbers. Mind you there are some missing which suggests that some have been demolished etc. Regards Peter

Hi John It would have helped greatly to know *who* you are looking for There are 79 heads of household listed on Ancestrys 1911 enumerators summaries for Green Lane Battersea It goes without saying I can't post 79 ! So who is it you seek and what address in Green Lane Battersea ? Findmypast have an address search facility (although far from all addresses are findable in their transcription) but they do not allow look ups so you would have to do that yourself Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Listers > > Does anyone know if you can search the 1911 census by address (as opposed to > name etc)? > > I am trying to find out who lived in Green Lane Battersea in the mid 1920s > and 1911 would be a good start point. It is not shown on the street map now, > but used to run parallel with Gwynne Road - but on the north side of the > rail line - both running into Lombard Road. > > Perhaps I should be looking for a street directory of the area for that > period? Are there such directories (eg Kellys) around that might be > available on line? > > Many thanks > > John, > > Rainless Suffolk

Hi Listers Does anyone know if you can search the 1911 census by address (as opposed to name etc)? I am trying to find out who lived in Green Lane Battersea in the mid 1920s and 1911 would be a good start point. It is not shown on the street map now, but used to run parallel with Gwynne Road - but on the north side of the rail line - both running into Lombard Road. Perhaps I should be looking for a street directory of the area for that period? Are there such directories (eg Kellys) around that might be available on line? Many thanks John, Rainless Suffolk

Seeking help in tracing a greenway family Henry Howard Greenway shows up in the 1861/1871/1881 uk census 1881 he is 21 years Shipbrokers Clerk His parents are Henry John Valentine Greenway & Devereux Christiana Wallace He then shows up in Australia electoral rolls 1914-1919 with his wife Mary Clifton ? 1923 they both come back to uk Henry dies 13/4/1931& mary dies 1954 Can not find a marriage or kids to them Would appreciate some help please Richie in humid bowen

Hi Stephanie The first of the modern census was 1801 here but it was largely a headcount as was the following three 1841 was the first with names of all in the household For more on the census see http://www.british-genealogy.com/census-sources/british-censuses.html IMHO the best access to the census for England and Wales is Ancestry for 1841 to 1901 Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > May this Yankee ask what the best way to get English census > information online? As an alternative to finding the ancestral home of > my immigrant ancestor Joseph COBB, I've decided to attempt to trace > the family remaining behind in London. > > I believe he left a younger brother William behind in the parish of St > Bartholomew the Great, West Smithfield, greater London. He died in > 1659 but the letters of administration were renewed in Oct 1761. > > Was the first year of the census 1811? > > Thanks and regards, > > Stephanie > > P.S. I recently read that for a time London was the largest city in the world!

Hello from New Zealand Can anyone help shed light please on the family of Annie Winifred RUSSELL B Jul 1896 - St George Hanover Square, London, Middlesex 1901 Census, Russell Annie - 1896 - London St Lukes / London, St Lukes Possibly her family had links with / to Letterkenny in Ireland She is playing hard to catch with us..... Any assistance greatly appreciated Kind regards from - Maree S Gordon, New Zealand

May this Yankee ask what the best way to get English census information online? As an alternative to finding the ancestral home of my immigrant ancestor Joseph COBB, I've decided to attempt to trace the family remaining behind in London. I believe he left a younger brother William behind in the parish of St Bartholomew the Great, West Smithfield, greater London. He died in 1659 but the letters of administration were renewed in Oct 1761. Was the first year of the census 1811? Thanks and regards, Stephanie P.S. I recently read that for a time London was the largest city in the world!

Many thanks  For all the lovely people that sent me information on the Canadian records the name has now been found Thanks also to Margaret and George In appreciation Eileen NZ

Good morning from New Zealand I am wondering if there is any kind person on the Canadian Ancestry list that can help me, I have just found a relative  in the war records 1914-1918 I only have the UK Ancestry and am happy to help on that Thanking you all Eileen New Zealand

Hello List Thomas William Palmer (1846 - 1917) was a butcher working in the family business in Drury Lane and then in New Street, Covent Garden. My mother said that he had a very unhappy love affair and was sent to Russia for a year to get over it. He was apparently working in the employ of the Tsar of Russia. In what capacity, I have no idea. Also I have no idea how this contact might have been made. He appears on the 1851 census, but I can't see him on the 1861.Too young to be on his way to Russia, I'd have thought. He is on subsequent censuses. Has anyone any idea as to which port he might have sailed from? Any ideas about St Petersburg? Some years ago I tried a St Petersburg website, but was quickly swamped by so-called genealogists wanting to charge me a fortune. Any information would be very welcome. David

To all who sent suggestions trying to solve my problem with saving images from Ancestry – I thank you. I now have a few things to try. Best wishes Pat

-----Original Message----- From: Lin [mailto:elmac@elmacdezign.co.uk] Sent: 04 May 2011 09:11 To: 'London@rootswseb.com' Subject: ADMIN : Ancestry and others Hello all just a reminder, please : All queries regarding Ancestry, and other similar databases should be addressed to that source, and not to the list : The London List is London specific, and only questions regarding our London Ancestors should be posted here. regards Lin List Admin London

Hi Pat Yes to your question, I have found that you have to do a right click with the mouse to be able to save the image. Michelle Cook Christchurch,NZ On 5/4/11, Ron & Pat Hills <rnphills1@bigpond.com> wrote: > Hello all, > A quick question > Is anyone else having problems saving images from Ancestry to their > computer? > Best wishes > Pat > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > This mailing list works in parallel with the London surname interest list on > the web at http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/london.html . Check for > matching interests and add your own ! > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: LONDON-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LONDON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >