Hello, Amongst my recently deceased relative's possessions was an MBE, but the family cannot decide whether it was awarded to him (civil c.2000), or to his father (military c.1941-45). I have been going around in circles trying to find the answer from the London Gazette on line and getting nowhere. Can someone pls gve me the key to easy access. It is not mentioned in the latter's military records I always thought awards of this calibre had the recipient's name and date engraved on the reverse, but I am obviously wrong! Many thanks for any help you can give me. Nick

Yes I just looked at some births and Ancestry have Ware inferred county Oxfordshire and FreeBMD has same record as Ware which when clicked says Herts which is sure where it is Ron Lankshear -Sydney NSW (from London-Shepherds Bush/Chiswick) try my links http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lankshear/ On 2011-06-10 9:05 PM, Jan Moon wrote: > Is this an Ancestry error or did these places (which I thought were Hertfordshire and Middlesex) change their boundaries? > Regards > Jan

Is this an Ancestry error or did these places (which I thought were Hertfordshire and Middlesex) change their boundaries? Regards Jan

Hello Ron, Thank you for the extra searches you did concerning my elusive couple and also confirming that there were two different females with the same name (albeit one a maiden surname and the other a married surname). I tried numerous other searches but they remain elusive. I will keep looking. Your input is very much appreciated. April ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Lankshear" <ronlank@yahoo.com.au> Subject: Re: [LON] Mary Ann Eliza BERNASCONI nee DARVELL > Indeed she is not your Mary Ann. > This in 1881 fits the one who marries James Arnull in 1884 at Brentford. > > Mary Bernasconi Frederick, > Lucy abt 1847 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Daughter Acton, Middlesex > > and yours is in 1881 with Thomas > > But I've looked for Mary Ann and Thomas with quite general wildcard > searches around the world. > There are Mar* Bernasconi in Australia Electoral Rolls but no Mary Ann and > no Thomas. > > My guess would be that Thomas decides to return to Ireland > > Ron Lankshear -Sydney NSW (from London-Shepherds Bush/Chiswick) > try my links http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lankshear/

Just shows that you should check that you are addressing your email to the right place :) Jan To: london-l-request@rootsweb.com Subject: William and Eliza (nee Metcalf) both b 1812-1816 Enfield Middlesex Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 18:55:10 +1030 Where did these people go? On the 1841 Census, they are in Edmonton (Ref HO107/652/8) Living at perhaps Bury Street? (can’t read it very well) with their 4 children, Rosina, John Mary and William. On the record there is another Elizabeth aged 20, and on the original of the census a Thomas aged 20, who I think are William Snr’s brother and his wife, but haven’t proved this yet. Daughter Rosina dies in 1853 aged 21 – address in register is Love’s Row (Edmonton? Enfield?) but I can’t find any of the family in 1851. There is another daughter born abt 1840 named Elizabeth, but she must have died before the 1841 census as she is not on it. I haven’t found her death though. I have looked under Tookey, Tookie and Tooke – to no avail. I did find the bapstism for William Jnr and the mysterious Elizabeth spelt as Tookie. Please can sks help me with this one – I’d love to find them, or at least what happened to them. Regards Jan Moon Pottsville NSW Australia

Ancestry error I would think - Ware Herts is miles away from Oxfordshire, ditto Edmonton Middx. unless it's not the UK. Google brings up an Oxford in Edmonton Canada. Anne On 10 Jun 2011, at 12:05, Jan Moon wrote: > > Is this an Ancestry error or did these places (which I thought were Hertfordshire and Middlesex) change their boundaries? > Regards > Jan

Hi Ron We assumed he took off from the evidence provided on his youngest childs birth certificate and his wife's 2nd marriage certificate. Four of the Bradshaw children have been registered with George Bradshaw as their father, the fifth child (my great grandmother Annie Bradshaw), although registered as a Bradshaw did not have her fathers name recorded on the birth certificate. Two years later she had the first of 4 children to Richard Parker, no marriage every found. We think Richad Parker died in Gippsland in 1869 and is buried at Buchan. When Agnes married Hugh GRAY in 1870 the marriage certificate states Agnes Bradshaw widow 1868. None of the names of the children match - George Thomas Carrick, Agnes Elizabeth, Jane, Maria and Annie. Thomas was the name of Agnes' s father and Carrick was her mothers maiden name. thanks. Shirlee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Lankshear" <ronlank@yahoo.com.au> To: "Shirlee Cantwell" <tcantwell@xtra.co.nz> Cc: <LONDON@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [LON] George Bradshaw 1825 London > Several around London in 1820s but how would you know which? > Is it family lore that he just disappeared around time of 5th child? > When was that? > There is this death > Have you looked at? > > George Bradshaw > Victoria > 42 > John > Sophia Jacobs > 1864 > Victoria > 5628 > abt 1822 > > Ron Lankshear -Sydney NSW (from London-Shepherds Bush/Chiswick) > try my links http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lankshear/ > > On 2011-06-10 7:00 AM, Shirlee Cantwell wrote: >> I need help in trying to find out what happened to George BRADSHAW who >> was my great great grandfather. The only information we have is what was >> supplied on the marriage and the birth certificates of his children with >> Agnes RUSSELL. He was supposed to have come from the London area and was >> born around 1825 and that he was a Master Mariner. He married Agnes >> RUSSELL in Sydney on 9 May 1853 at the Presbyterian Church of Scotland >> and the witnesses were James Cavanagh and George Paterson. >> >> The first child, a male, George Thomas Carrick, was born in Sydney in >> 1855 and then they travelled south to Victoria where three of the >> daughters (Agnes Elizabeth, Jane, and Marra) were born in Emerald Hill >> and the 4th (Annie) in Sandy's Creek in Gippsland. When his wife was >> pregnant with the 5th child he took off never to be seen again. We >> assume he took off back to sea. >> >> Although Agnes did have another partner, Richard PARKER, after George she >> did not marry him. Agnes married a Hugh GRAY IN 1870 after Richard >> PARKER died in 1869. So Agnes must have known he was still alive >> somewhere and only legally married after the set time was up. >> >> Shirlee

Several around London in 1820s but how would you know which? Is it family lore that he just disappeared around time of 5th child? When was that? There is this death Have you looked at? George Bradshaw Victoria 42 John Sophia Jacobs 1864 Victoria 5628 abt 1822 Ron Lankshear -Sydney NSW (from London-Shepherds Bush/Chiswick) try my links http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lankshear/ On 2011-06-10 7:00 AM, Shirlee Cantwell wrote: > I need help in trying to find out what happened to George BRADSHAW who was my great great grandfather. The only information we have is what was supplied on the marriage and the birth certificates of his children with Agnes RUSSELL. He was supposed to have come from the London area and was born around 1825 and that he was a Master Mariner. He married Agnes RUSSELL in Sydney on 9 May 1853 at the Presbyterian Church of Scotland and the witnesses were James Cavanagh and George Paterson. > > The first child, a male, George Thomas Carrick, was born in Sydney in 1855 and then they travelled south to Victoria where three of the daughters (Agnes Elizabeth, Jane, and Marra) were born in Emerald Hill and the 4th (Annie) in Sandy's Creek in Gippsland. When his wife was pregnant with the 5th child he took off never to be seen again. We assume he took off back to sea. > > Although Agnes did have another partner, Richard PARKER, after George she did not marry him. Agnes married a Hugh GRAY IN 1870 after Richard PARKER died in 1869. So Agnes must have known he was still alive somewhere and only legally married after the set time was up. > > Shirlee

I need help in trying to find out what happened to George BRADSHAW who was my great great grandfather. The only information we have is what was supplied on the marriage and the birth certificates of his children with Agnes RUSSELL. He was supposed to have come from the London area and was born around 1825 and that he was a Master Mariner. He married Agnes RUSSELL in Sydney on 9 May 1853 at the Presbyterian Church of Scotland and the witnesses were James Cavanagh and George Paterson. The first child, a male, George Thomas Carrick, was born in Sydney in 1855 and then they travelled south to Victoria where three of the daughters (Agnes Elizabeth, Jane, and Marra) were born in Emerald Hill and the 4th (Annie) in Sandy's Creek in Gippsland. When his wife was pregnant with the 5th child he took off never to be seen again. We assume he took off back to sea. Although Agnes did have another partner, Richard PARKER, after George she did not marry him. Agnes married a Hugh GRAY IN 1870 after Richard PARKER died in 1869. So Agnes must have known he was still alive somewhere and only legally married after the set time was up. Shirlee Wellington, NZ

Hi everyone. My gt Uncle Joseph Benjamin Graham was married 11 Mar 1904 St Peters Vauxhall Lambeth to Sarah Jane Metcalf the dau of Thomas Metcalfe, a commission agent. He was living at No 8 Leopold Street and she at no 17 Leopold Street. Both were aged 22 yrs. At the time of the marriage he described himself as a " Chemist" And this occupation was the same thru his life. He later studied and graduated from the University of Toronto. Despite pouring over indexes and at one stage was convinced I had found a child born to to them all came to nothing. But we do know that a child was born to them. Thought I would approach it from a different angle but desperately need the help from the list. What Chemist shops would there have been in the Leopold Street Area from say 1904 - 1909. Many many thanks Muriel

Hello to the list I am researching the PEGG family would love to connect with other researchers Aileen

Many thanks to Nivard and Martin for their help on my Thomas Fishburn and family. Sue in Oz

There was a Middlesex in Somers Town and in Whitechapel This 1862 has the Somers Town one <http://www.mappalondon.com/london/north-west/bloomsbury-map.htm> From top left come down a bit - Claredon Square on left and look right Middlesex runs between Hampden and Chapel through Phoenix which is approximately still there I think 3 miles to Covent Garden was ok in those days Ron Lankshear -Sydney NSW (from London-Shepherds Bush/Chiswick) try my links http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lankshear/ On 2011-06-09 10:14 AM, pjudd@westnet.com.au wrote: > Samuel Ke nnerley's Will of 1814 has his address as 22 Middlesex Street Somers Town. The Whitechapel Society, Wikipedia and various Googe searches etc have Petticoat Lane changing to Middlesex Street in 1830 + which is well after 1814. Do I need to disregard their dates? > > Then this leads me to my next query. Is it likely that he would commute 3 miles morning and night? The following show he resided and conducted his business in Bedford Ct. Covent Garden.

Indeed she is not your Mary Ann. This in 1881 fits the one who marries James Arnull in 1884 at Brentford. Mary Bernasconi Frederick, Lucy abt 1847 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Daughter Acton, Middlesex and yours is in 1881 with Thomas But I've looked for Mary Ann and Thomas with quite general wildcard searches around the world. There are Mar* Bernasconi in Australia Electoral Rolls but no Mary Ann and no Thomas. My guess would be that Thomas decides to return to Ireland Ron Lankshear -Sydney NSW (from London-Shepherds Bush/Chiswick) try my links http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lankshear/

Hello everyone,         I am puzzled and once more need your help please. Samuel Ke nnerley's Will of 1814 has his address as 22 Middlesex Street Somers Town.  The Whitechapel Society, Wikipedia and various Googe searches  etc have Petticoat Lane changing to Middlesex Street in 1830 +  which is well after 1814.  Do I need to disregard their dates? Then this leads me to my next query.  Is it likely that he would commute 3 miles morning and night?  The following show he resided and conducted his business in Bedford Ct. Covent Garden. Westminster Poll Books and Trade Directories - Samuel Kennerley Mens Mercer Bedford Ct Covent Garden. St Paul's Covent Garden baptism records - children baptised. St Paul's Covent Garden burial records - 1814, 1815 and 1817 for Samuel and children all of Bedford Ct. Covent Garden. Or do you think Middlesex Street may be the Solicitor's address?  The Will has the address and then the first line says "I Samuel Kennerley of the above place ..." It doesn't appear he was estranged from his family as he bequeathed everything to my 'dearly beloved wife' I do hope someone can take the time to consider this please and put my puzzled mind to rest! Regards from Pauline Geelong Australia

Hi all, I have an ancestor ( Thomas Fishburn) whose occupation is shown as something that looks like feul /?eul/seul/seud in the London, England Marriages and Banns entry. Thomas married Letitia Mary FitzPatrick in 1846, St Luke's parish, Chelsea, Middlesex County. Can anyone assist with a possible occupation? Or could anyone who has ancestry.com perhaps check the entry to see what they may come up with? Many thanks for your thoughts, Cheers Sue ( in Oz)

Hi listers, have just received a marriage certificate for my Edwin Thomas LEE which was registered at Limehouse, Stepney in December 1924. The addresses shown are 113 and 116 Belgrave Street, Limehouse. The next step will be contacting the appropriate Local History Library to discover if Edwin is listed at this address in the electoral rolls or street directory for this address for the years both before and after his marriage. I believe this may come under the jurisdiction of Tower Hamlets but can this be confirmed please? cheers Bob in Brisbane

Many thanks to Caroline and Ron for their input regarding my elusive lady. I took a look at the 1891 census that Caroline found, but am certain this is not the person I am seeking. When Caroline replied about the marriage, it rang a bell, so I looked through my file and found the certificate for that marriage, I had ordered it 2 years ago, also thinking, like Caroline, that she must have remarried. I certainly didn't think that there could be two young ladies of the exact christian names together with that surname, but there is/was. This is not my Mary Ann Eliza BERNASCONI. This one, married to James Francis Arnull, is a spinster and father's name is Frederick BERNASCONI occ. trunk maker. I was able to cross check this information on the Ancestry site, now that these new indexes are available, and there she was, in the Birth & Baptisms 1813-1906, father Frederic, mother Lucy Louisa. So, I'm back to square one again. Any further help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, April - Somerset UK ----- Original Message ----- > Hello to the list, > > I have been trying to find my g.grandfathers sister, named above, on 1891, > 1901,1911 census' I have also checked the Death indexes and Passenger > lists, with no luck whatsoever. > > Mary Ann Eliza was born St.Andrews, Holborn 1855 and married Thomas > Francis BERNASCONI in 1880, he was born Dublin 1854 (according to the 1881 > census). I have located the Ancestry image and also have the certificate > for the marriage. > > I managed to find them on the 1881 census, Mary Ann Eliza had been > mistranscribed as Marian E. BERNANON and he as Thomas BERNANON living at > 34 Noble Street, St.Lukes, Finsbury. > > I have also checked the street address on FMP for 1891 with no luck. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > April Moran - Somerset, UK > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > This mailing list works in parallel with the London surname interest list > on the web at http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/london.html . Check for > matching interests and add your own ! > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: LONDON-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LONDON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Stephanie Yes, on all the sites available. I've tried using the keyword soldier, keyword indian, no keyword, various dates of birth, variations on the names etc. I've scanned the internet to try to find information on men who served as Indian Commissioners, and found some, but William and/or Frederick Burnett//Barnett was not among them. He is truly a puzzle. Thanks for your interest. Tracy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephanie Ray" <netnuevo@gmail.com> To: "Tracy Kasaboski" <tkas@magma.ca>; <LONDON@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [LON] Soldier RHA Frederick BURNETT > Tracy, sorry if this is an obvious question, but have you checked the > 1871/1881/1891 census for Frederick and/or his father? > > >> >> Thanks again. It looks like I will remain stumped where Frederick Burnett >> is >> concerned, at least for the time being. >> >> Tracy >> >

Hi again Did you also see there is a licence for this marriage on Ancestry ? Although it does not mention an occupation, it does give a clue that the family may have had a little money On the marriage cert, Letitia's father being an Officer in the Army also lends weight to the "Gent" theory Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi all, > > I have an ancestor ( Thomas Fishburn) whose occupation is shown as > something that looks like feul /?eul/seul/seud in the London, England > Marriages and Banns entry. > Thomas married Letitia Mary FitzPatrick in 1846, St Luke's parish, > Chelsea, Middlesex County. > > Can anyone assist with a possible occupation? Or could anyone who has > ancestry.com perhaps check the entry to see what they may come up with? > > Many thanks for your thoughts, > > Cheers > > Sue > ( in Oz)