Hello all A child ( sex unknown ) was born ( we think) in LONDON, sometime between 1904 - 1910. The Father was Joseph Benjamin Graham and the Mother was Sarah Jane Metcalfe who were married in St Peters Vauxhall Church, Lambeth London 11 March 1904. By Dec 1909 the Father was in Toronto Canada. Looking for any descendants of this child. Thank you Muriel

Hi everyone. My last message to the list was in June 2011. Since then another snippet has come to light. The above couple married in 1904 in London at St Peters Vauxhall, Lambeth I have now discovered from a letter which recently came into my possession that there was a child born to them, sometime between 1904-1910 Afraid I don't know if it was a boy or girl By December of 1909 Joseph Benjamin Graham was in Toronto Canada. Hoping a 2nd try at tracing Sarah Jane might be lucky Many thanks Muriel

I am looking for information on Peter Skinner. He was a staymaker. He married Anne Barnett in 1702 at the Fleet. I found a Daniel Skinner, merchant of Marks Lane, London who had a son, Peter in 1668 but am unable to make a connection between the two. Would anyone on the List have a suggestion where I might look? Daniel and Peter feature in the letters of Samuel Pepys, where Peter's sister, Mary was Pepys' long-time mistress. Thank you, David Cornelius

I should have checked marriages first. The Chester-le-Street births belong to George Graham who married in 1910. Therefore, no Graham/Metcalfe births 1900-1911. ----- Original Message ----- From: Penelope Dagg <eq640@freenet.carleton.ca> Date: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:47 am Subject: Re: [LON] Joseph Benjamin Graham & Sarah Jane Metcalfe > FreeBMD has only one birth for a Graham child with mother a Metcalfe > between 1900 and 1911. Its Sept 1911 in Chester-le-Street - Joseph H > Graham. > > If this is your Sarah's child, it looks like her husband went to > Canadaand she went north and had a child almost two years later. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Murlel Sherlock <muriel.sherlock@iolfree.ie> > Date: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:15 am > Subject: [LON] Joseph Benjamin Graham & Sarah Jane Metcalfe > > > Hi everyone. > > My last message to the list was in June 2011. Since then another > > snippet has > > come to light. > > The above couple married in 1904 in London at St Peters Vauxhall, > > LambethI have now discovered from a letter which recently came > into > > my possession > > that there was a child born to them, sometime between 1904-1910 > > Afraid I don't know if it was a boy or girl > > By December of 1909 Joseph Benjamin Graham was in Toronto Canada. > > Hoping a 2nd try at tracing Sarah Jane might be lucky > > > > Many thanks > > Muriel > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > This mailing list works in parallel with the London surname > interest list on the web at > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/london.html . Check for > matching interests and add your own ! > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: LONDON-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LONDON- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

FreeBMD has only one birth for a Graham child with mother a Metcalfe between 1900 and 1911. Its Sept 1911 in Chester-le-Street - Joseph H Graham. If this is your Sarah's child, it looks like her husband went to Canada and she went north and had a child almost two years later. ----- Original Message ----- From: Murlel Sherlock <muriel.sherlock@iolfree.ie> Date: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:15 am Subject: [LON] Joseph Benjamin Graham & Sarah Jane Metcalfe > Hi everyone. > My last message to the list was in June 2011. Since then another > snippet has > come to light. > The above couple married in 1904 in London at St Peters Vauxhall, > LambethI have now discovered from a letter which recently came into > my possession > that there was a child born to them, sometime between 1904-1910 > Afraid I don't know if it was a boy or girl > By December of 1909 Joseph Benjamin Graham was in Toronto Canada. > Hoping a 2nd try at tracing Sarah Jane might be lucky > > Many thanks > Muriel

Valerie: Good morning and thank you very much for the information which obviously is just right. To tell you the truth I am a bit embarrassed because I could have found the bride by a simple search on FamilySearch's first search box (as I have just done to check). Instead I was mucking around with the Non-Conformist route. Maybe I am slow coming to terms with FamilySearch in its present format and with many more records than when I started out using just the IGI! John: Good morning and thank you also for the information in your message. I will follow that up because at one stage my main WILLIAMSON moved from London to Northampton and subsequently there was at least one Non-Conformist marriage there. Thank you both again Brian Williamson, NZ -----Original Message----- From: Valerie Horler [mailto:val.horler@bigpond.com] Sent: Tuesday, 26 July 2011 9:47 p.m. To: 'Brian Williamson'; LONDON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [LON] WILLIAMSON-Non-Conformist Record Indexes (RG4-8) Brian: I think this is what you're after: England Marriages 1538-1973 Groom's name - Philip Williamson Bride's name - Ann Cooper Marriage date - 31 October 1734 Marriage place - Westminster Indexing project - 103120-3 System origin - England-EASy Source film - 813824 It came up with a search on https://www.familysearch.org/ Val, Qld Original Message----- I turned up two identical records for a marriage of Philip WILLIAMSON, 31 Oct 1734, Fleet, London. Record sets RG7_294 and RG7_133. So far, very good-but!-- the question is how to find the bride.

Have a look at <http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/research-guides/hearth-tax.htm> <http://www.progenealogists.com/greatbritain/hearthtax.htm> which has some lists - did not see Norfolk though Ron Lankshear -Sydney NSW (from London-Shepherds Bush/Chiswick) try my links http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lankshear/

The whole city was not destroyed a large proportion of buildings survived so it depends on where your ancestors lived. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Fire_of_London which shows a map of the area destroyed Diane

Brian: I think this is what you're after: England Marriages 1538-1973 Groom's name - Philip Williamson Bride's name - Ann Cooper Marriage date - 31 October 1734 Marriage place - Westminster Indexing project - 103120-3 System origin - England-EASy Source film - 813824 It came up with a search on https://www.familysearch.org/ Val, Qld Original Message----- I turned up two identical records for a marriage of Philip WILLIAMSON, 31 Oct 1734, Fleet, London. Record sets RG7_294 and RG7_133. So far, very good-but!-- the question is how to find the bride.

I've looked in the directory of the Alumni of Oxford University ( Ancestry) and can't find a James Stephenson/Stevenson in this period. Have you tried to find both James and Ellen in the 1841 census? Anne On 26 Jul 2011, at 18:43, Jeanne Reilly wrote: > > I have very little information for the my great great grandfather James Stephenson/Stevenson who was born about 1822 to a well to do Protestant family living in London. Family stories has him either teaching or attending Oxford University. James met my Irish Catholic great great grandmother Ellen Hickey, who was born in Ireland about 1830, in London where she was working as a servant and they fell in love. Because they could not marry in England they emigrated to the U.S. about 1849 and lived in the Irish section of New York City. James initially worked as a clerk, then a bookkeeper and when he died in 1870 his occupation listed on his Death Certificate was printer. James and Ellen's first son was named Frederick and their second son was George. I am familiar with the Irish naming patterns where the 1st son was usually named after the father's father, but am unfamiliar with the English naming patterns. I am just guessing that James' father's first name was Frederick! . ! > I have hit a brick wall with my research of James and his life in England. I have access to Ancestry and FindMyPast, but no success to date. Does anyone have any ideas as to where I can go from here? Thank you. > > > > Jeanne > > North Carolina, USA

It depends also on where they lived. Not everything in London was destroyed. Also at that time the populated area around London had spread and many referred to the entire populated area as London even then. On 07/26/2011 06:47 AM, A durn wrote: > > Looking for help from historians > > I have information about my family in London for the hearth tax 1666 > > The great fire of London happened 1666 also, > so was this before or after, > in other words, could the property they were paying hearth tax for, > not exist anymore after 1666, or were they still living there ? > > Can anyone clarify the time line for this please > any help gratefully received > > Aileen > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > This mailing list works in parallel with the London surname interest list on the web at http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/london.html . Check for matching interests and add your own ! > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: LONDON-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LONDON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Several volumes are in print containing Norfolk hearth tax returns, including Norfolk Genealogy series, Vol. XV, 1983, Vol. XX, 1988, and Norfolk Record Society, Vol. LXV, 2001. If you are looking for a single name, I could check for you if you would post the name. Best wishes, John Townsend Antiquarian Bookseller/Genealogist http://www.johntownsend.demon.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gilbert Murray" <happyman70@cableone.net> To: <LONDON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 2:07 PM Subject: [LON] Hearth tax and window tax > Was these taxes collected only in London, or throughout England and > Scotland? Does anyone know if there was a hearth tax and window tax in > Norfolk, and if so, where would I find records naming those who paid the > tax? > > > > Thanks, > > Sonia in the U.S.

Some of the Norfolk parishes at http://www.doun.org/transcriptions/index.php have Hearth taxes with names of individuals Jean On 26 July 2011 14:07, Gilbert Murray <happyman70@cableone.net> wrote: > Was these taxes collected only in London, or throughout England and > Scotland? Does anyone know if there was a hearth tax and window tax in > Norfolk, and if so, where would I find records naming those who paid the > tax? > > > > Thanks, > > Sonia in the U.S. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > This mailing list works in parallel with the London surname interest list > on the web at http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/london.html . Check for > matching interests and add your own ! > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: LONDON-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LONDON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

I have very little information for the my great great grandfather James Stephenson/Stevenson who was born about 1822 to a well to do Protestant family living in London. Family stories has him either teaching or attending Oxford University. James met my Irish Catholic great great grandmother Ellen Hickey, who was born in Ireland about 1830, in London where she was working as a servant and they fell in love. Because they could not marry in England they emigrated to the U.S. about 1849 and lived in the Irish section of New York City. James initially worked as a clerk, then a bookkeeper and when he died in 1870 his occupation listed on his Death Certificate was printer. James and Ellen's first son was named Frederick and their second son was George. I am familiar with the Irish naming patterns where the 1st son was usually named after the father's father, but am unfamiliar with the English naming patterns. I am just guessing that James' father's first name was Frederick. I have hit a brick wall with my research of James and his life in England. I have access to Ancestry and FindMyPast, but no success to date. Does anyone have any ideas as to where I can go from here? Thank you. Jeanne North Carolina, USA

On 2011/07/26 12:47, A durn wrote: > The great fire of London happened 1666 also, > so was this before or after, > in other words, could the property they were paying hearth tax for, > not exist anymore after 1666, or were they still living there ? Without actually knowing the answer, I would say that the tax applied both before and after the Great Fire. Sir Christopher Wren had grandiose plans for rebuilding the City after the file, but the plans were thwarted by the land-owners refusing to allow their existing, mediaeval boundaries to be be changed. In the end, they simply rebuilt on top of the existing foundations. From this, I think you can safely assume that what you have applied both before and after the Fire. Of course, this is only my personal supposition :-) -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg

It depends on the date of your information. The Hearth Tax was usually collected in 2 installments on 25 Mar [Lady day] and 29 Sep [Michaelmas] The Fire was 2 - 5 September HTH Jean On 26 July 2011 11:47, A durn <rosableu08@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > Looking for help from historians > > I have information about my family in London for the hearth tax 1666 > > The great fire of London happened 1666 also, > so was this before or after, > in other words, could the property they were paying hearth tax for, > not exist anymore after 1666, or were they still living there ? > > Can anyone clarify the time line for this please > any help gratefully received > > Aileen > >

Looking for help from historians I have information about my family in London for the hearth tax 1666 The great fire of London happened 1666 also, so was this before or after, in other words, could the property they were paying hearth tax for, not exist anymore after 1666, or were they still living there ? Can anyone clarify the time line for this please any help gratefully received Aileen

Greetings Listers Using Family Search I searched the Non-Conformist Record Indexes (RG4-8) for England and Wales, for any Philip WILLIAMSONs I could find. I turned up two identical records for a marriage of Philip WILLIAMSON, 31 Oct 1734, Fleet, London. Record sets RG7_294 and RG7_133. So far, very good-but!-- the question is how to find the bride. When I enter only the year in the search box and no name I get thousands of results-too many to go thru to find a bride on 31 Oct 1734. Various ways of entering search data failed to get anywhere. I would be most grateful for any advice that would help find the bride. Brian Williamson, NZ

Was these taxes collected only in London, or throughout England and Scotland? Does anyone know if there was a hearth tax and window tax in Norfolk, and if so, where would I find records naming those who paid the tax? Thanks, Sonia in the U.S.

Hi Lori, FreeBMD has: Pechey, John Thomas Primrose born Sept qtr 1837 at Biggleswade Pechey, John T P 86yrs old died Mar qtr 1924 at Kensington BonnieB Hello, I have an ancestor by the name of Elisha PECHEY who lived in Edmonton, London from the 1850's to 1901 when he died. I have just recently found a J.T.P. Pechey living in the same area of London in the 1890's. My computer is not letting me get into some of the websites to find out who this person is. Could anyone please tell what J.T.P. Pecheys full name is, and maybe check the census records for 1891 to see where he was born and what family members are living with him. I believe most of the Pechey's were born in Bury Saint Edmunds. I am just trying to link him to the family. Thank you Kind Regards Lori