Hello Listers, I wonder if anyone can offer suggestions as to how I might obtain a copy of a notice which apparently appeared in the "London Public Ledger and Daily Advertiser" on 29 January 1829? This particular edition is apparently available through NewspaperArchive.com, but I don't have a subscription, and cannot take one out. Does it exist anywhere else? Any help appreciated, and Thanks in advance, Bruce Murduck Kingston, Ontario, Canada

Thank you to all of the listers who replied to my request for information about the RC churches near Stepney. I am following up on a lot of leads, and also learning so much about the history of the area. Thank you Clare From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Sunday, 1 March 2015 7:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: LONDON Digest, Vol 10, Issue 28

Or with the local register office to see if was registered there but not at the GRO ? Just a thought Antony -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington via Sent: 02 March 2015 10:40 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LON] Death of Thomas Hawkins Hi Martin I checked for any 80 year olds registered in the year for Poplar, nothing found remotely like Thomas or HAWKINS (in case it might be registered under the wrong spelling) Nor in Romford which covered Ilford (just in case) The responsibility for registering the death was with the workhouse master, so it looks as if he didn't do that It seems a little belated but it was quite a few years later that they introduced the necessity to produce a certificate of registration before burial or cremation could take place and a disposal certificate was required to be returned to the registrar Have you checked in Ilford for the burial? Just in case there might be a note in the margin Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 02/03/2015 00:13, Martin Hawkins via wrote: > Good Morning Listers and Greetings from Queensland Australia, > > I have a page from the Register of Deaths in the Stepney Union, Bromley > Workhouse. Listed on the page is my GG Grandfather Thomas Hawkins. He passed > away according to the entry on 17 May 1900. He was taken to Ilford for > burial. > > Try as I may, I can find no Civil Registration of his death. Others on the > page are registered in Poplar, not him. I am at a loss as to why this would > be. Can anyone please throw some light on this? > > Kind regards > > Martin Hawkins ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please use PLAIN TEXT only when replying to the list, and trim away any excess. Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Martin I checked for any 80 year olds registered in the year for Poplar, nothing found remotely like Thomas or HAWKINS (in case it might be registered under the wrong spelling) Nor in Romford which covered Ilford (just in case) The responsibility for registering the death was with the workhouse master, so it looks as if he didn't do that It seems a little belated but it was quite a few years later that they introduced the necessity to produce a certificate of registration before burial or cremation could take place and a disposal certificate was required to be returned to the registrar Have you checked in Ilford for the burial? Just in case there might be a note in the margin Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 02/03/2015 00:13, Martin Hawkins via wrote: > Good Morning Listers and Greetings from Queensland Australia, > > I have a page from the Register of Deaths in the Stepney Union, Bromley > Workhouse. Listed on the page is my GG Grandfather Thomas Hawkins. He passed > away according to the entry on 17 May 1900. He was taken to Ilford for > burial. > > Try as I may, I can find no Civil Registration of his death. Others on the > page are registered in Poplar, not him. I am at a loss as to why this would > be. Can anyone please throw some light on this? > > Kind regards > > Martin Hawkins

Good Morning Listers and Greetings from Queensland Australia, I have a page from the Register of Deaths in the Stepney Union, Bromley Workhouse. Listed on the page is my GG Grandfather Thomas Hawkins. He passed away according to the entry on 17 May 1900. He was taken to Ilford for burial. Try as I may, I can find no Civil Registration of his death. Others on the page are registered in Poplar, not him. I am at a loss as to why this would be. Can anyone please throw some light on this? Kind regards Martin Hawkins

Many thanks to those who contributed answers to the query re RC parishes in the East End. I have members of an Irish Catholic family [Fell] who were residing Rosemary Lane [Royal Mint Street] c 1841 One child, Lawrence was born Pennington Street in 1840 and baptised at the Virginia Street Chapel.27 Aug 1840 I haven't been able to find the baptism for his sister Rosa who was born about 1835. The parents Lawrence FELL and his wife Eliza ALBERT were married at St Dunston in the East in 1835. Would Virginia Street Chapel have been the most likely place for Rosa's baptism? If so I was unable to find her there. [She could of course been born before the marriage :) ] I was able to purchase some years ago from the Roman Catholic Archives copies of transcripts of the registers of several churches in the general area . [which I can't find at the moment :( ] Any suggestions welcome. Judy Qld Australia

Judy, The East of London Family History Society could have more information. I noticed they have a CD of Catholic parishes. http://www.eolfhs.org.uk/ Rosemary On 3/1/2015 2:57 AM, Judy TOC via wrote: > Many thanks to those who contributed answers to the query re RC parishes in > the East End. > > I have members of an Irish Catholic family [Fell] who were residing > Rosemary Lane [Royal Mint Street] c 1841 > One child, Lawrence was born Pennington Street in 1840 and baptised at the > Virginia Street Chapel.27 Aug 1840 > > I haven't been able to find the baptism for his sister Rosa who was born > about 1835. > > The parents Lawrence FELL and his wife Eliza ALBERT were married at St > Dunston in the East in 1835. > > Would Virginia Street Chapel have been the most likely place for Rosa's > baptism? If so I was unable to find her there. > [She could of course been born before the marriage :) ] > > I was able to purchase some years ago from the Roman Catholic Archives > copies of transcripts of the registers of several churches in the general > area . [which I can't find at the moment :( ] > > Any suggestions welcome. > > Judy > Qld Australia > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Please use PLAIN TEXT only when replying to the list, and trim away any excess. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Westminster Diocesan Archivist can be contacted on [email protected] However, Fr Schofield is also a parish priest so only in the archives for part of the week. Stephen T Moseling (Revd), London GOONS #2533 KFHS #5527 Researching Moseling/Mosling/Moselen worldwide.

Hello List I have a Roman Catholic family of Irish origin who lived in London for only a few years: arriving after 1854 and leaving before 1863. The parents were James and Esther Lawler. Twins Thomas and Joseph were born in 1856, but Joseph died the following year. The youngest son, James was born in 1860. All of these birth and death records give the registration district as Stepney. I do have an 1860 address that places the family in Pearl St, St Georges East. Can anyone please help me with the RC parish to which this family would have belonged, as I am hoping to locate baptism records for these children. I cannot seem to find a local church that was extant in 1860. TIA Clare in Australia

The Roman Catholic hierarchy in England And Wales wasn't re-established after the reformation until 1850 so administrative boundaries -- dioceses - didn't exist. The church was "governed" (not the right word) by Vicars Apostolic. One of the most useful backgrounds is at : http://www.stgite.org.uk/media/romancatholics.html It seems that the Virginia Street Chapel mentioned on the stgite site was replaced by the Church of St Mary and St Michael on Commercial Road. around 1856/57 http://parish.rcdow.org.uk/commercialroad/ The articles suggest that registers were extant so it might be worth contacting St Mary and St Michael to see if they know what happened to them. An alternative would be the Archdiocese of Wesminster http://rcdow.org.uk There used to be a contact for an archivist but I cannot find one now. You could try emailing the admin office at Vaughan House [email protected] The Parochial Registers and Records Measure 1978 applies only to the Church of England , nevertheless it might also be worth while emailing the London metropolitan Archive to see if they have anything [email protected] or you try searching their online catalogue. Stepney is in the London Borough of Tower Hamlets so again it might be worth contact their archive dept. [email protected] Someone mentioned the church in Poplar, I worked in the school next door about 40 years ago once or twice I remember walking to Stepney so it was certainly "do able" in the 1850s. http://parish.rcdow.org.uk/poplar/about-the-parish/ There is also St Anne's http://parish.rcdow.org.uk/underwoodroad/about-the-parish/ which was also built around the same time. Good Luck !! Tony Kelly 01483 720680 07 515 666 159 > On 27 Feb 2015, at 05:23, Clare Dubay via <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello List > > > > I have a Roman Catholic family of Irish origin who lived in London for only > a few years: arriving after 1854 and leaving before 1863. The parents were > James and Esther Lawler. > > > > Twins Thomas and Joseph were born in 1856, but Joseph died the following > year. The youngest son, James was born in 1860. All of these birth and > death records give the registration district as Stepney. > > I do have an 1860 address that places the family in Pearl St, St Georges > East. > > > > Can anyone please help me with the RC parish to which this family would have > belonged, as I am hoping to locate baptism records for these children. I > cannot seem to find a local church that was extant in 1860. > > > > TIA > > Clare in Australia > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Please use PLAIN TEXT only when replying to the list, and trim away any excess. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There's St Mary & St Joseph in Poplar... maybe close enough for your people? Donna Sent from my Hudl Clare Dubay via <[email protected]> wrote: >Hello List > > > >I have a Roman Catholic family of Irish origin who lived in London for only >a few years: arriving after 1854 and leaving before 1863. The parents were >James and Esther Lawler. > > > >Twins Thomas and Joseph were born in 1856, but Joseph died the following >year. The youngest son, James was born in 1860. All of these birth and >death records give the registration district as Stepney. > >I do have an 1860 address that places the family in Pearl St, St Georges >East. > > > >Can anyone please help me with the RC parish to which this family would have >belonged, as I am hoping to locate baptism records for these children. I >cannot seem to find a local church that was extant in 1860. > > > >TIA > >Clare in Australia > > > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Please use PLAIN TEXT only when replying to the list, and trim away any excess. > >Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you everyone for your help in locating the plaque and an image.... Really appreciate it Au revoir All the best Caroline

This is useful as well... http://www.royal.gov.uk/The%20Royal%20Collection%20and%20other%20collections/TheRoyalArchives/Frequentlyaskedquestions.aspx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Webb via" <[email protected]> To: "London post" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 6:53 PM Subject: [LON] Census 1901/1911 Palace > Can anyone tell me if the staff employed in Buckingham Palace were > included in the census 1891 / 1901 /1911 and if so what does one search > for? We believe that one of our ancestors was employed there as a > postilion. > Robert , N Wales > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Please use PLAIN TEXT only when replying to the list, and trim away any > excess. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Robert You may need to do a little weeding out of the earlier census before the ones you want. But it's interesting reading all the same. https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=buckingham+palace+on+census&safe=off&rls=com.microsoft:en-gb:IE-SearchBox&rlz=1I7PBEA_en-GB&prmd=ivns&ei=rHrvVO2YHKLT7QbOooDQAg&start=0&sa=N HTH Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Webb via" <[email protected]> To: "London post" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 6:53 PM Subject: [LON] Census 1901/1911 Palace > Can anyone tell me if the staff employed in Buckingham Palace were > included in the census 1891 / 1901 /1911 and if so what does one search > for? We believe that one of our ancestors was employed there as a > postilion. > Robert , N Wales > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Please use PLAIN TEXT only when replying to the list, and trim away any > excess. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Can anyone tell me if the staff employed in Buckingham Palace were included in the census 1891 / 1901 /1911 and if so what does one search for? We believe that one of our ancestors was employed there as a postilion. Robert , N Wales

Hi Have just discovered this link which may be of interest to listers. http://www.maps.thehunthouse.com/Streets/New_to_Old_Abolished_London_Street_Names.htm John --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

Hi Caroline, Try this link to St Cement Danes in London http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/research/online-exhibitions/lest-we-forget/st-clement-danes-the-central-church-of-the-royal-air-force.aspx Regards, John

Thank you John, there's a huge amount of information there which I will enjoy reading... I have all my fathers log books so I know when and where he flew and all those different aircraft... amazes me that they hopped in and flew something with just that little blue book of notes. We've had a flight in a warbird here and the pilot was so excited to see the notes for his plane! Appreciate the link Caroline On 26-Feb-15 8:52 AM, Jean & John Johnston wrote: > Hi Caroline, > Try this link to St Cement Danes in London > > http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/research/online-exhibitions/lest-we-forget/st-clement-danes-the-central-church-of-the-royal-air-force.aspx > > > Regards, John

Wonderful, thank you Caroline ... it confirms it is inside the building and I can also, with frequent rewinds, get the acual inscription... wonder if Pathe would have a still shot in their archives. Appreciate your help. Thanks Caroline G On 26-Feb-15 8:36 AM, Caroline Bell wrote: > Have you seen this ? > > http://www.britishpathe.com/video/lord-beaverbrook-unveils-plaque >

Hello Listers I hope this is the correct list to cover St Paul's Cathedral... apologies if it is not. I am writing a story about my father's war time service as a pilot in the Air Transport Auxiliary. I understand there is a memorial plaque for ATA folk who died during service. I believe it is at St Paul's and was unveiled in 1950. One source says it is in the graveyard and another that it is located in a crypt. I've done Google searches to try and find a photograph of this memorial but I can't find one which shows what it looks like or the inscription. I'm now wondering if the memorial has been damaged/removed. I've emailed St Paul's but to date have had no response. Can anyone please point me in the right direction to find that elusive photo Many thanks Caroline NSW Australia