I am looking for information on Giorgio Vicenza GALLI, who emigrated from Italy to London on August 22, 1836. I believe that he is the George GALLEY who died @ St. Pancras, London in Apr - Jun 1847. I believe that he had at least 4 children, all born in Italy between 1801 and 1816. I haven't been able to find him on the 1841 or 1851 census. George GALLI appears on a marriage certificate for his son, Thomas, and his occupation is stated as "looking-glass maker". Any information on the above would be most appreciated. Dennis Galley, Port Elgin, Ontario, Canada

Might the baptism have been held at the Roman Catholic Westminster Cathedral? Or was the baptism at a time when there were rules against Catholics. Sent from Samsung Mobile on O2 <div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Nicholas Wilson via <[email protected]> </div><div>Date:24/05/2015 00:25 (GMT+00:00) </div><div>To: [email protected] </div><div>Cc: </div><div>Subject: [LON] re. ROMAN CATHOLIC BAPTISMS London 1814 </div><div> </div>Further to my earlier email on this subject it has been suggested I post the fellow's name. It is FREDERICK CLAUDIUS JOHN PARKINSON. His father was John P. of the Consular Service and his mother, Frances, the illegitimate daughter of John Thomas Foster, the then husband of Lady Elizabeth Foster,nee Hervey, who later was to become the Duchess of Devonshire upon her friend, Georgiana's death. My thanks to Judy and Rosemary for their help. Nick ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please use PLAIN TEXT only when replying to the list, and trim away any excess. Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Nick, Here is a link from GenUKI about London & Middlesex Church Records. http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/MDX/ChurchRecords.html You may have to contact the Catholic Diocesan Archives to see if what they have and how much it will cost to have someone look for you. I know in Staffs the registers are held by the Diocesan Archives. Another link which may help: https://goo.gl/brlQp2 (It's in the FamilySearch Wiki and is titled England Catholic Church Registers. Rosemary On 5/23/2015 5:04 PM, Nicholas Wilson via wrote: > Hello, > > I have had no success trolling trough Ancestry.com and therefore hope > someone can help me by telling where I should be looking for a R.C. baptism > which took place in 1814 in London. The child was born in the Parish of St. > Martins-in-the-Fields to a CofE father and Catholic mother, and they were > 'very well connected' . Assuming there were not that many Catholic churches > in Central London at the time I am probably only looking at two or three > possibilities,aren't I?. Family lore has it the Duc d' Orleans was a > godparent though neither parent was French. > > The child was 're-baptised' twelve years later this time in the Established > Church, a procedure I always thought was never required by either > denomination. > > Thanks, > > Nick > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Please use PLAIN TEXT only when replying to the list, and trim away any excess. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Further to my earlier email on this subject it has been suggested I post the fellow's name. It is FREDERICK CLAUDIUS JOHN PARKINSON. His father was John P. of the Consular Service and his mother, Frances, the illegitimate daughter of John Thomas Foster, the then husband of Lady Elizabeth Foster,nee Hervey, who later was to become the Duchess of Devonshire upon her friend, Georgiana's death. My thanks to Judy and Rosemary for their help. Nick

Hello, I have had no success trolling trough Ancestry.com and therefore hope someone can help me by telling where I should be looking for a R.C. baptism which took place in 1814 in London. The child was born in the Parish of St. Martins-in-the-Fields to a CofE father and Catholic mother, and they were 'very well connected' . Assuming there were not that many Catholic churches in Central London at the time I am probably only looking at two or three possibilities,aren't I?. Family lore has it the Duc d' Orleans was a godparent though neither parent was French. The child was 're-baptised' twelve years later this time in the Established Church, a procedure I always thought was never required by either denomination. Thanks, Nick

I have a Pontilione GALLEY on the 1841 and 1851 census for St. George-in-the-East, Tower Hamlets, who was born in Italy around 1801. So far, I haven't been able to find any immigration record, nor names of his parents. He married Margaret Morris JAMES on Nov 18, 1830 @ London. Hi father may have been Georgio Vicenza GALLI, who died in 1847 @ St. Pancras, London, but I'm not sure. Any assistance would be most appreciated. Dennis Galley, Port Elgin, Ontario, Canada

Does anyone on this list have the TRICE name on their tree c1950? I have come across a few personal items that I would be pleased to pass on. Mal in W. Australia

Image sent off list Alison :-) Sydney Australia On 11-May-2015 10:52 PM, Maud Flink via wrote: > Dear Listers, > > I followed Katie's advice to go to > http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/divorce.htm. > I could not however find my ggrandmother's marriage or divorce. I see that > it is on Ancestry as follows : > > London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 > Marriage & Divorce > Charlotta Harding > SPOUSE: David Field > BIRTH: year 1841 > MARRIAGE: date – city 1860 Edmonton, Middesex UK > > As <snip>

Dear Listers, I followed Katie's advice to go to http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/divorce.htm. I could not however find my ggrandmother's marriage or divorce. I see that it is on Ancestry as follows : London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 Marriage & Divorce Charlotta Harding SPOUSE: David Field BIRTH: year 1841 MARRIAGE: date – city 1860 Edmonton, Middesex UK As I do not have a subscription to Ancestry, I wondered if one of the listers could obtain this information for me. I do not have the date or any information regarding her marriage to David Field. In 1869, she married my ggrandfather Richard Cook. Any assistance will be greatly appreciated. Many thanks Maud Flink Wellington, Western Cape, SA -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 9:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: LONDON Digest, Vol 10, Issue 53 This mailing list works in parallel with the London surname interest list on the web at http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/london.html . Check for matching interests and add your own ! Today's Topics: 1. Divorce (Eve Ferguson) 2. Re: Divorce (Katie de Haan) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 23:59:39 +0000 From: Eve Ferguson <[email protected]> Subject: [LON] Divorce To: London London <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello Listers I have a cousin whose parents were divorced about 1932. in London at the high court Somerset House. Could someone tell me how to find the details of this divorce please?? The records disappeared before my Aunt died. Thank you for any direction Eve Ferguson ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 07:21:43 +0200 From: "Katie de Haan" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LON] Divorce To: "'Eve Ferguson'" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello Eve I found and downloaded a London family divorce from 1936 at the National Archives. The link below should take you to a relevant page from where you can read a research guide, then search and download the file you require. http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/divorce.htm Hope you find what you're looking for, Katie de Haan -----Oorspronkelijk bericht--Van: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Namens Eve Ferguson via Verzonden: maandag 11 mei 2015 2:00 Aan: London Onderwerp: [LON] Divorce Hello Listers I have a cousin whose parents were divorced about 1932. in London at the high court Somerset House. Could someone tell me how to find the details of this divorce please?? The records disappeared before my Aunt died. Thank you for any direction Eve Ferguson ------------------------------ To contact the LONDON list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the LONDON mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of LONDON Digest, Vol 10, Issue 53 **************************************

Hello Eve I found and downloaded a London family divorce from 1936 at the National Archives. The link below should take you to a relevant page from where you can read a research guide, then search and download the file you require. http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/divorce.htm Hope you find what you're looking for, Katie de Haan -----Oorspronkelijk bericht--Van: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Namens Eve Ferguson via Verzonden: maandag 11 mei 2015 2:00 Aan: London Onderwerp: [LON] Divorce Hello Listers I have a cousin whose parents were divorced about 1932. in London at the high court Somerset House. Could someone tell me how to find the details of this divorce please?? The records disappeared before my Aunt died. Thank you for any direction Eve Ferguson

Hello Listers I have a cousin whose parents were divorced about 1932. in London at the high court Somerset House. Could someone tell me how to find the details of this divorce please?? The records disappeared before my Aunt died. Thank you for any direction Eve Ferguson

Judy Thank you so much for your help and suggestions which are much appreciated. I'll follow them up. Kind regards Mike -----Original Message----- From: Judy Lester [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 06 May 2015 10:58 To: 'Mike Corrigan'; 'LONDON Mailing List' Subject: RE: [LON] Workhouse Query - St Luke's Chelsea Mike, I'm afraid I can't say whether Ancestry's digitisation of CHBG/167/003 is complete or not. As you have seen, these are separate documents, out of date-order, and gathered into bindings without pagination. Ancestry are known to miss (or misplace) individual pages and clumps of pages even when there is pagination, so it's anyone's guess. You could try asking this question of LMA, but I fear you may get a similar answer. I'm not aware of any indexing of this particular record collection. Also, perhaps bear in mind that any removal order may have been misfiled, or may not have survived. John Corridon's place of settlement will have depended on his father's, until he gained a settlement in his own right. So it's possible that Chelsea were responsible for him when he was being raised in Bristol. There are no admission/discharge registers for the Chelsea workhouse before the 1860s. But there are other records at LMA, not online, that may mention him. In particular, I'd suggest the Board of Guardians' minute books, which often mention individuals. To access these you would need to have research done either by LMA or by an independent researcher (probably cheaper). As a next step, you may want to use LMA's (free) enquiry service to ask for details of the records that they have for Chelsea which are *not* online and which might help you in your quest. [email protected] HTH Judy London, UK -----Original Message----- From: Mike Corrigan [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 06 May 2015 08:24 To: 'Judy Lester'; 'LONDON Mailing List' Subject: RE: [LON] Workhouse Query - St Luke's Chelsea Judy Do you know if the CHBG/167/003 records on Ancestry are complete please, or are indexed anywhere, if not on Ancestry? I've now waded through them several times but have been unable to find the record for John Corridon. It is presumed that John Corridon went into the workhouse in Chelsea around 1851 as a baby, when his mother went into an asylum. By the time of the 1861 correspondence, we believe he may have been in Bristol possibly with relatives, who then brought him up. If this was correct, would the Bristol Poor Corporation still be involved and seeking maintenance from Chelsea? Thanks for any advice you can provide. Mike

Mike, I'm afraid I can't say whether Ancestry's digitisation of CHBG/167/003 is complete or not. As you have seen, these are separate documents, out of date-order, and gathered into bindings without pagination. Ancestry are known to miss (or misplace) individual pages and clumps of pages even when there is pagination, so it's anyone's guess. You could try asking this question of LMA, but I fear you may get a similar answer. I'm not aware of any indexing of this particular record collection. Also, perhaps bear in mind that any removal order may have been misfiled, or may not have survived. John Corridon's place of settlement will have depended on his father's, until he gained a settlement in his own right. So it's possible that Chelsea were responsible for him when he was being raised in Bristol. There are no admission/discharge registers for the Chelsea workhouse before the 1860s. But there are other records at LMA, not online, that may mention him. In particular, I'd suggest the Board of Guardians' minute books, which often mention individuals. To access these you would need to have research done either by LMA or by an independent researcher (probably cheaper). As a next step, you may want to use LMA's (free) enquiry service to ask for details of the records that they have for Chelsea which are *not* online and which might help you in your quest. [email protected] HTH Judy London, UK -----Original Message----- From: Mike Corrigan [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 06 May 2015 08:24 To: 'Judy Lester'; 'LONDON Mailing List' Subject: RE: [LON] Workhouse Query - St Luke's Chelsea Judy Do you know if the CHBG/167/003 records on Ancestry are complete please, or are indexed anywhere, if not on Ancestry? I've now waded through them several times but have been unable to find the record for John Corridon. It is presumed that John Corridon went into the workhouse in Chelsea around 1851 as a baby, when his mother went into an asylum. By the time of the 1861 correspondence, we believe he may have been in Bristol possibly with relatives, who then brought him up. If this was correct, would the Bristol Poor Corporation still be involved and seeking maintenance from Chelsea? Thanks for any advice you can provide. Mike

Judy Do you know if the CHBG/167/003 records on Ancestry are complete please, or are indexed anywhere, if not on Ancestry? I've now waded through them several times but have been unable to find the record for John Corridon. It is presumed that John Corridon went into the workhouse in Chelsea around 1851 as a baby, when his mother went into an asylum. By the time of the 1861 correspondence, we believe he may have been in Bristol possibly with relatives, who then brought him up. If this was correct, would the Bristol Poor Corporation still be involved and seeking maintenance from Chelsea? Thanks for any advice you can provide. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Judy Lester [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 21 April 2015 22:29 To: 'Mike Corrigan'; 'LONDON Mailing List' Subject: RE: [LON] Workhouse Query - St Luke's Chelsea Mike, Welcome back! One possible scenario is that John Corridon was living in Bristol when he fell upon hard times, or became ill, and was unable to support himself. He may have applied for assistance to the Bristol Corporation of the Poor, and may have undergone a settlement examination to determine his eligibility. As a result, he was found to be chargeable to the parish of St Luke Chelsea, for whatever reason. Up to 1861 he would normally have been removed to his parish of settlement (Chelsea), unless he could prove residence in Bristol for 5 continuous years (this was reduced to 3 years in 1861). The removal order that was issued on 11 September 1860 might have been suspended, if perhaps he was too ill to be removed at that time. Alternatively, Chelsea might have been attempting to appeal against the order. In either of those circumstances Bristol would probably have agreed to care for him temporarily, whilst charging maintenance costs back to Chelsea. These may be the costs that the Clerk was trying to recover. As you suggest, there might be an inwards removal order from Bristol held amongst the Chelsea records, perhaps in CHBG/167/003. This volume is online at Ancestry. The access path is ... London, England, Poor Law and Board of Guardian Records, 1430-1930 > Chelsea > Chelsea > Orders of Removal > Settlement and Relief, 1859-1865 (1137 images). As regards other records at LMA, if John Corridon applied for relief from the Chelsea Guardians at an earlier or a later date, and if his settlement was in doubt, there might be an examination for him at Chelsea. Settlement examinations are in CHBG/164/001-009, covering 1842-1907. There are also some admission/discharge registers for the Britten Street workhouse in the early 1860s. All these records are listed in the LMA online catalogue, but it is quite hard to find things there. The 'London Generations' pdf pages are easier to use and include poor law records. http://bit.ly/1PcO32u (pdf) (scroll down to Chelsea Board of Guardians) Ancestry appears to have some but not all of the Chelsea settlement records. To be honest, it is hard to be sure exactly what they do have because their labelling and source citation are rather poor. I hope this helps a little. Judy London, UK -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Corrigan via This is my first posting to this list for a very long time, so it's good to be back! Amongst the non-indexed records on Ancestry (London, England, Poor Law and Board of Guardian Records, 1430-1930) in the 1861 Settlement and Examinations papers for St Luke's, Chelsea there is a loose letter in which I am very interested. The letter is from the Clerk to the Corporation of the Poor in Bristol, to the workhouse in Chelsea. Dated 30th March 1861 this states that 5 applications to the Churchwardens and Overseers in Chelsea have been sent requesting payment of 7s/10d maintenance of John Corridon under order of removal dated 11 September 1860. As no notice has been taken of three applications, the writer asks for the details of the person whose duty it is to pay these amounts. I have several questions relating to this: In what circumstances would these maintenance payments be made? Also, as Ancestry does not appear to have the appropriate St Luke's orders of removal records online for that period, and virtually all Bristol workhouse records were lost in the blitz, would I be correct in thinking that the order may be recorded at the London Metropolitan Archive at the following location: CHBG/167/003 Orders of removal inwards 1859 - 1865. Are there any other records at the LMA, or elsewhere, which may help me research this further.

Hi Jan Have you been able to find her on the BMD indices? Even If she died in the workhouse, then her death should be registered as if she had died elsewhere. Regards Mike Corrigan Keynsham Bristol UK Researching CORRIGAN/CORRIDON/CORRIDAN in London 1850s, CORRIGAN/POWELL in Birmingham 1870s, CORRIGAN in Cardiff 1890s, CORRIGAN in NSW Australia 1900s to present. CORRIGAN/CALLAGHAN in Bristol 1850s to present -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jan Moon via Sent: 01 May 2015 11:25 To: [email protected] Subject: [LON] Hackney Workhouse - Ann Stevens I am wondering how to get access to records that may tell me if my gt grandfather’s second wife died in this institution. I am pretty sure it is her there on the 1891 Census. Regards Jan Sent from Windows Mail ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please use PLAIN TEXT only when replying to the list, and trim away any excess. Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am wondering how to get access to records that may tell me if my gt grandfather’s second wife died in this institution. I am pretty sure it is her there on the 1891 Census. Regards Jan Sent from Windows Mail

Members of this list may recall my previous postings over the last couple of years, in search of a family grave “somewhere in London.” Well, after many years of searching I’m pleased to report that this wall has finally been demolished – and the final clue was in discovering a small graveyard attached to a church in Fulham, and seeing the perimeter wall, which looked pretty much the same as the one in the photo of the grave. We were in London earlier this year, and firstly we called at the Servite church in Fulham Road. The very helpful people there redirected us to the church of St. Thomas of Canterbury, in Rylstone Road, SW6 – and there we had a bit of a setback as we couldn’t find thegrave. However, soon after we returned to Australia the parish priest, Father Dennis, emailed several images of the relevant pages in the church’s burial register, listing all our ancestors, as shown on the headstone. And as for the mystery of the missing headstone, it seems that some time ago there was some severe subsidence in one area of the churchyard, which would account for its disappearance. In the past I have searched various records and none of my family names is listed, so I assume that the records for the church of St Thomas of Canterbury have never been indexed? Therefore, I’ve made a note of the other entries on the pages that contain my ancestors’ details, in case they may belong to someone on the London list: - ALL 1878 CONTI(?) Amelia Louise, 56; PALMER, Alfred Zouch, 74; PORTER, Ada Emily, 1yr, 11mths; WOODS, Margaret, 17; BARRY Ivana, 64; O’CONNELL, Louise, 100; NENUS(?) Ellen, 39 ALL 1889 TRAPPS, Bessie Broughton, 37; ROSEN, Lila Emily, 2mths; MacKENNA, Maryanne Frances, 5; EDWARDS, Elizabeth Sarah, 60; CARIGAN Margaret, 49; TIERNAN(?) Anna Maria, 83; HOOD, Henry Alfred Edward, 15 ALL 1893 SCHAEFFER, Charles Peter Ludwig, 81; SCHAEFFER, Louisa May 60; GRIFFITHS, William, 73; HAY, Frances Maria (Lady), 45; FLORIS, Elizabeth, 42; PALMER, Catherine Rachael Elizabeth Zouch, 69 And an odd co-incidence I noticed on these pages: in the 1878 entries, on the page of my ancestor, Jules Hymette, is also listed PALMER (Zouch). Fast-forward 15 years to 1893, and on the page for Frances, the wife of Jules, is also listed PALMER (Zouch), same address for these two Palmers, so presumably husband and wife? And I wondered if there was a tragic story for the two SCHAEFFERS, presumably also a married couple, and buried on the same day? Finally, my grateful thanks to all the help that I’ve received over the past few years from the knowledgeable folk on this list. Mal in W. Australia

Have you tried Abney Park Cemetery....some of my relatives from the Islington area are buried there. Anne in Hamilton, Ontario -----Original Message----- From: Jan Moon via Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 10:05 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [LON] Looking for Graves I have various relatives who lived and died in Enfield and Edmonton and surrounds. Other than Lavender Hill Cemetery, are there other cemeteries that they might be buried in, and are there any online records. Regards Jan

Well done for finally getting to the bottom of it I remember it well Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 29/04/2015 14:49, mal parr via wrote: > Members of this list may recall my previous postings over the last > couple of years, in search of a family grave “somewhere in London.” > > Well, after many years of searching I’m pleased to report that this wall > has finally been demolished – and the final clue was in discovering a > small graveyard attached to a church in Fulham, and seeing the perimeter > wall, which looked pretty much the same as the one in the photo of the > grave.

There are many possibilities but a lot depends on the date. Caroline Sent from my iPad > On 29 Apr 2015, at 15:05, Jan Moon via <[email protected]> wrote: > > I have various relatives who lived and died in Enfield and Edmonton and surrounds. Other than Lavender Hill Cemetery, are there other cemeteries that they might be buried in, and are there any online records. > > Regards > > Jan > > > > > > > > > Sent from Windows Mail > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Please use PLAIN TEXT only when replying to the list, and trim away any excess. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message