Sorry - I seem to have missed out on something here. I haven't had emails from London for months (I've just realised)........what would be the purpose of an alternative list? Thank you Lottie On Sat, 11 Jan 2020 at 11:50, Juliet Evans via LONDON <london@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I am on many lists and a few have already moved to https://groups.io/ < > https://groups.io/> > Free and seems to be working well. > > Juliet > > > > >> I am interested as well. > >> Regards Jenny Lang > >> Auckland, New Zealand > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Eileen Chapman <eileen.chapman@outlook.com> > >> Sent: Saturday, 11 January 2020 5:46 p.m. > >> To: london@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: [LONDON] Re: ALTERNATIVE LIST > >> > >> > >> I'm interested if a new one starts > >> ________________________________ > >> From: p.strauss@iinet.net.au <p.strauss@iinet.net.au> > >> Sent: Saturday, 11 January 2020 4:38 PM > >> To: london@rootsweb.com <london@rootsweb.com> > >> Subject: [LONDON] ALTERNATIVE LIST > >> > >> Is there to be an alternative list for those of us interested? > >> > >> Peter Strauss > >> > >> Melbourne > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________ > To Post to this list: > london@rootsweb.com > > Contact the Listowner: > Dee Pavey > london-owner@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/london@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

I am on many lists and a few have already moved to https://groups.io/ <https://groups.io/> Free and seems to be working well. Juliet > >> I am interested as well. >> Regards Jenny Lang >> Auckland, New Zealand >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Eileen Chapman <eileen.chapman@outlook.com> >> Sent: Saturday, 11 January 2020 5:46 p.m. >> To: london@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [LONDON] Re: ALTERNATIVE LIST >> >> >> I'm interested if a new one starts >> ________________________________ >> From: p.strauss@iinet.net.au <p.strauss@iinet.net.au> >> Sent: Saturday, 11 January 2020 4:38 PM >> To: london@rootsweb.com <london@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: [LONDON] ALTERNATIVE LIST >> >> Is there to be an alternative list for those of us interested? >> >> Peter Strauss >> >> Melbourne >> >> >> _______________________________________________

I'm interested too. -----Original Message----- From: Joy Dean via LONDON <london@rootsweb.com> To: london <london@rootsweb.com> CC: Joy Dean <jsdean47@aol.com> Sent: Sat, 11 Jan 2020 8:53 Subject: [LONDON] Re: LONDON] Re: ALTERNATIVE LIST I am interested too. Joy Dean On 11/01/2020 04:54, Jenny Lang wrote: > I am interested as well. > Regards Jenny Lang > Auckland, New Zealand > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eileen Chapman <eileen.chapman@outlook.com> > Sent: Saturday, 11 January 2020 5:46 p.m. > To: london@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LONDON] Re: ALTERNATIVE LIST > > > I'm interested if a new one starts > ________________________________ > From: p.strauss@iinet.net.au <p.strauss@iinet.net.au> > Sent: Saturday, 11 January 2020 4:38 PM > To: london@rootsweb.com <london@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [LONDON] ALTERNATIVE LIST > > Is there to be an alternative list for those of us interested? > > Peter Strauss > > Melbourne > > > _______________________________________________ > To Post to this list: > london@rootsweb.com > > Contact the Listowner: > Dee Pavey > london-owner@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/london@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is > funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > To Post to this list: > london@rootsweb.com > > Contact the Listowner: > Dee Pavey > london-owner@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/london@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is > funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > To Post to this list: > london@rootsweb.com > > Contact the Listowner: > Dee Pavey > london-owner@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/london@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ To Post to this list: london@rootsweb.com Contact the Listowner: Dee Pavey london-owner@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/london@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I am interested too. Joy Dean On 11/01/2020 04:54, Jenny Lang wrote: > I am interested as well. > Regards Jenny Lang > Auckland, New Zealand > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eileen Chapman <eileen.chapman@outlook.com> > Sent: Saturday, 11 January 2020 5:46 p.m. > To: london@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LONDON] Re: ALTERNATIVE LIST > > > I'm interested if a new one starts > ________________________________ > From: p.strauss@iinet.net.au <p.strauss@iinet.net.au> > Sent: Saturday, 11 January 2020 4:38 PM > To: london@rootsweb.com <london@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [LONDON] ALTERNATIVE LIST > > Is there to be an alternative list for those of us interested? > > Peter Strauss > > Melbourne > > > _______________________________________________ > To Post to this list: > london@rootsweb.com > > Contact the Listowner: > Dee Pavey > london-owner@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/london@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is > funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > To Post to this list: > london@rootsweb.com > > Contact the Listowner: > Dee Pavey > london-owner@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/london@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is > funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > To Post to this list: > london@rootsweb.com > > Contact the Listowner: > Dee Pavey > london-owner@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/london@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Peter, Yes I believe there is, I thought I posted about it last night but I have not seen my post so maybe it did not get to its destination. I will copy and post what I sent yesterday below: ------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Hugh and Nivard, I belong to a very active Afrikaans South African genealogy mailing list that has recently moved from Yahoogroups to Groups.io. (SAGenealogie@groups.io) The changeover went smoothly and it is working well. One can even attach some attachments which is an improvement on Yahoogroups. I do not know exactly what option/s our list owner Dennis Pretorius selected, but it was a paid option - several members of the group kindly banded together and donated to pay for the membership. Nivard I can forward you Dennis's email address if you guys are interested in following up membership details or get more info from him. Regards, Martina Louw. -----Original Message----- From: p.strauss@iinet.net.au [mailto:p.strauss@iinet.net.au] Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 1:38 PM To: london@rootsweb.com Subject: [LONDON] ALTERNATIVE LIST Is there to be an alternative list for those of us interested? Peter Strauss Melbourne _______________________________________________ To Post to this list: london@rootsweb.com Contact the Listowner: Dee Pavey london-owner@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/london@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com

I am interested as well. Regards Jenny Lang Auckland, New Zealand -----Original Message----- From: Eileen Chapman <eileen.chapman@outlook.com> Sent: Saturday, 11 January 2020 5:46 p.m. To: london@rootsweb.com Subject: [LONDON] Re: ALTERNATIVE LIST I'm interested if a new one starts ________________________________ From: p.strauss@iinet.net.au <p.strauss@iinet.net.au> Sent: Saturday, 11 January 2020 4:38 PM To: london@rootsweb.com <london@rootsweb.com> Subject: [LONDON] ALTERNATIVE LIST Is there to be an alternative list for those of us interested? Peter Strauss Melbourne _______________________________________________ To Post to this list: london@rootsweb.com Contact the Listowner: Dee Pavey london-owner@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/london@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ To Post to this list: london@rootsweb.com Contact the Listowner: Dee Pavey london-owner@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/london@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I'm interested if a new one starts ________________________________ From: p.strauss@iinet.net.au <p.strauss@iinet.net.au> Sent: Saturday, 11 January 2020 4:38 PM To: london@rootsweb.com <london@rootsweb.com> Subject: [LONDON] ALTERNATIVE LIST Is there to be an alternative list for those of us interested? Peter Strauss Melbourne _______________________________________________ To Post to this list: london@rootsweb.com Contact the Listowner: Dee Pavey london-owner@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/london@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Is there to be an alternative list for those of us interested? Peter Strauss Melbourne

Just to say, I have now joined a move of two of my mailing lists to Groups.io <http://groups.io/> and it seems others are going that way. It would be great to have all the mailing lists on the same portal so to speak. Juliet > On 9 Jan 2020, at 22:19, John W. Kitz <John.Kitz-gen@xs4all.nl> wrote: > > Hugh, Nivard and others, > > > > I haven't looked into groups.io's services myself and for anyone who has read my previous post it ought to have been obvious I merely stating my understanding of groups.io's services based on some email exchanges I followed on some Dutch Yahoo groups. In some of those exchanges following Yahoo's decision to reduce the services of their group service some individuals offered to setup a group on groups.io. If my memory serves me correctly in at least one such case a message included a bank account number and a request to share in some annual service fee by transferring money to that account. I might be wrong, but it seemed a scam to me. > > > > Regards, Jk. > > > > From: hugh [mailto:hugh@xtra.co.nz] > Sent: Thursday, 09 January, 2020 23:04 > To: John.Kitz-gen@xs4all.nl; london@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LONDON] Re: Demise of rootsweb lists > > > > Wrong info. > > > > groups.io has a free option amongst other paying options > > > > Hugh > >

Hi Hugh and Nivard, I belong to a very active Afrikaans South African genealogy mailing list that has recently moved from Yahoogroups to Groups.io. (SAGenealogie@groups.io) The changeover went smoothly and it is working well. One can even attach some attachments which is an improvement on Yahoogroups. I do not know exactly what option/s our list owner Dennis Pretorius selected, but it was a paid option - several members of the group kindly banded together and donated to pay for the membership. Nivard I can forward you Dennis's email address if you guys are interested in following up membership details or get more info from him. Regards, Martina Louw.

On Thu, 9 Jan 2020, Nivard Ovington wrote: > Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 06:11:28 > From: Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> > Reply-To: london@rootsweb.com > To: london@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LONDON] Re: Demise of rootsweb lists > > Hi John > > A Hugh has just posted your information is inaccurate > > The basic list is free and has a 1GB storage limit > > But as you will see that does not include messages > > From their FAQs > > What Is Counted Towards The Storage Limits For My Group? > > The following are counted towards the storage limits for your group: > > Files > Photos > Images in databases > Images in wiki pages > Message attachments > > Messages themselves are not counted towards the storage limits, only any > attachments. > What Happens If I Go Over My Storage Limits? > We send you a warning when you've reached 80% of your storage limit. You can > configure your group to either bounce messages when you've reached your > storage limit, or to automatically delete old attachments to keep you under > the storage limit. Photos and files are never automatically deleted. > > > > So if all you have are messages, its limitless > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 09/01/2020 21:56, John W. Kitz wrote: >> Nivard, >> >> Having followed various exchanges on Dutch genealogy groups on the topic of >> genealogy mailing lists it is my understanding that the service of >> groups.io >> is not free of charge, which may be an issue when choosing an alternative >> for other similar services that have so far been free of charge. >> > > _______________________________________________ > To Post to this list: > london@rootsweb.com > > Contact the Listowner: > Dee Pavey > london-owner@rootsweb.com > In the footer above, is stated that Dee Pavey is the list administrator. We need to see what that person says. I note that, also, the Middlesex and Oxfordshire lists so far have no mention of the closure of the Rootsweb lists, or, or of any plans for the future. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .............. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 ....................................................

Hugh, Nivard and others, I haven't looked into groups.io's services myself and for anyone who has read my previous post it ought to have been obvious I merely stating my understanding of groups.io's services based on some email exchanges I followed on some Dutch Yahoo groups. In some of those exchanges following Yahoo's decision to reduce the services of their group service some individuals offered to setup a group on groups.io. If my memory serves me correctly in at least one such case a message included a bank account number and a request to share in some annual service fee by transferring money to that account. I might be wrong, but it seemed a scam to me. Regards, Jk. From: hugh [mailto:hugh@xtra.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, 09 January, 2020 23:04 To: John.Kitz-gen@xs4all.nl; london@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LONDON] Re: Demise of rootsweb lists Wrong info. groups.io has a free option amongst other paying options Hugh On Fri, 10 Jan 2020 at 10:56, John W. Kitz <John.Kitz-gen@xs4all.nl> wrote: Nivard, Having followed various exchanges on Dutch genealogy groups on the topic of genealogy mailing lists it is my understanding that the service of groups.io is not free of charge, which may be an issue when choosing an alternative for other similar services that have so far been free of charge. As for Yahoo's decision, messages only IMHO suffice for genealogy in so far as that I can't think of any other functionality that I need for that. As for Rootsweb's decision, who is to say that alternatives such as Facebook or Twitter are going to exist forever? A reduction of services or a usage fee for some or all social media or even the end of one or more platforms maybe unthinkable now, but who knows what the future brings (see e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyves). On at least on occasion I've suggested that in the Netherlands the Central Bureau for Family history, the National Archive or some other similar government institute with an affinity to genealogy would provide a basic service free of charge using a free of charge product like https://www.list.org/. Those who have more advanced needs, such as exchange images and who don't mind the hassle of having to log onto to dozens of forums, social media platforms and what not, then can do so at their leisure, leaving users with less intricate needs with the choice to use one or more email lists, such as this one. Regards, Jk. -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington [mailto:ovington.one@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 09 January, 2020 22:10 To: london@rootsweb.com Subject: [LONDON] Re: Demise of rootsweb lists Hi Jk I have tried Yahoo groups in the past and wasn't overly impressed As you say they have reduced functionality to the point of messages only, and who is to say they will not pull the plug completely at some point I would still advocate io lists over the other options available so far Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 09/01/2020 21:03, John W. Kitz wrote: > Nivard, > > Groups for most Dutch provinces can be found on https://groups.yahoo.com/. > Although it is my understanding that Yahoo have reduced the functionality of > their free groups to some degree. But the email list functionality, which is > the most important one for typical use, has remained as far as I know. > > Regards, Jk. _______________________________________________ To Post to this list: london@rootsweb.com Contact the Listowner: Dee Pavey london-owner@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/london@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ To Post to this list: london@rootsweb.com Contact the Listowner: Dee Pavey london-owner@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/london@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi John A Hugh has just posted your information is inaccurate The basic list is free and has a 1GB storage limit But as you will see that does not include messages From their FAQs What Is Counted Towards The Storage Limits For My Group? The following are counted towards the storage limits for your group: Files Photos Images in databases Images in wiki pages Message attachments Messages themselves are not counted towards the storage limits, only any attachments. What Happens If I Go Over My Storage Limits? We send you a warning when you've reached 80% of your storage limit. You can configure your group to either bounce messages when you've reached your storage limit, or to automatically delete old attachments to keep you under the storage limit. Photos and files are never automatically deleted. So if all you have are messages, its limitless Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 09/01/2020 21:56, John W. Kitz wrote: > Nivard, > > Having followed various exchanges on Dutch genealogy groups on the topic of > genealogy mailing lists it is my understanding that the service of groups.io > is not free of charge, which may be an issue when choosing an alternative > for other similar services that have so far been free of charge. >

Wrong info. groups.io has a free option amongst other paying options Hugh On Fri, 10 Jan 2020 at 10:56, John W. Kitz <John.Kitz-gen@xs4all.nl> wrote: > Nivard, > > Having followed various exchanges on Dutch genealogy groups on the topic of > genealogy mailing lists it is my understanding that the service of > groups.io > is not free of charge, which may be an issue when choosing an alternative > for other similar services that have so far been free of charge. > > As for Yahoo's decision, messages only IMHO suffice for genealogy in so far > as that I can't think of any other functionality that I need for that. As > for Rootsweb's decision, who is to say that alternatives such as Facebook > or > Twitter are going to exist forever? A reduction of services or a usage fee > for some or all social media or even the end of one or more platforms maybe > unthinkable now, but who knows what the future brings (see e.g. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyves). > > On at least on occasion I've suggested that in the Netherlands the Central > Bureau for Family history, the National Archive or some other similar > government institute with an affinity to genealogy would provide a basic > service free of charge using a free of charge product like > https://www.list.org/. > > Those who have more advanced needs, such as exchange images and who don't > mind the hassle of having to log onto to dozens of forums, social media > platforms and what not, then can do so at their leisure, leaving users with > less intricate needs with the choice to use one or more email lists, such > as > this one. > > Regards, Jk. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nivard Ovington [mailto:ovington.one@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, 09 January, 2020 22:10 > To: london@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LONDON] Re: Demise of rootsweb lists > > Hi Jk > > I have tried Yahoo groups in the past and wasn't overly impressed > > As you say they have reduced functionality to the point of messages > only, and who is to say they will not pull the plug completely at some > point > > I would still advocate io lists over the other options available so far > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 09/01/2020 21:03, John W. Kitz wrote: > > Nivard, > > > > Groups for most Dutch provinces can be found on > https://groups.yahoo.com/. > > Although it is my understanding that Yahoo have reduced the functionality > of > > their free groups to some degree. But the email list functionality, which > is > > the most important one for typical use, has remained as far as I know. > > > > Regards, Jk. > > _______________________________________________ > To Post to this list: > london@rootsweb.com > > Contact the Listowner: > Dee Pavey > london-owner@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/london@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > To Post to this list: > london@rootsweb.com > > Contact the Listowner: > Dee Pavey > london-owner@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/london@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Nivard, Having followed various exchanges on Dutch genealogy groups on the topic of genealogy mailing lists it is my understanding that the service of groups.io is not free of charge, which may be an issue when choosing an alternative for other similar services that have so far been free of charge. As for Yahoo's decision, messages only IMHO suffice for genealogy in so far as that I can't think of any other functionality that I need for that. As for Rootsweb's decision, who is to say that alternatives such as Facebook or Twitter are going to exist forever? A reduction of services or a usage fee for some or all social media or even the end of one or more platforms maybe unthinkable now, but who knows what the future brings (see e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyves). On at least on occasion I've suggested that in the Netherlands the Central Bureau for Family history, the National Archive or some other similar government institute with an affinity to genealogy would provide a basic service free of charge using a free of charge product like https://www.list.org/. Those who have more advanced needs, such as exchange images and who don't mind the hassle of having to log onto to dozens of forums, social media platforms and what not, then can do so at their leisure, leaving users with less intricate needs with the choice to use one or more email lists, such as this one. Regards, Jk. -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington [mailto:ovington.one@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 09 January, 2020 22:10 To: london@rootsweb.com Subject: [LONDON] Re: Demise of rootsweb lists Hi Jk I have tried Yahoo groups in the past and wasn't overly impressed As you say they have reduced functionality to the point of messages only, and who is to say they will not pull the plug completely at some point I would still advocate io lists over the other options available so far Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 09/01/2020 21:03, John W. Kitz wrote: > Nivard, > > Groups for most Dutch provinces can be found on https://groups.yahoo.com/. > Although it is my understanding that Yahoo have reduced the functionality of > their free groups to some degree. But the email list functionality, which is > the most important one for typical use, has remained as far as I know. > > Regards, Jk. _______________________________________________ To Post to this list: london@rootsweb.com Contact the Listowner: Dee Pavey london-owner@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/london@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Jk I have tried Yahoo groups in the past and wasn't overly impressed As you say they have reduced functionality to the point of messages only, and who is to say they will not pull the plug completely at some point I would still advocate io lists over the other options available so far Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 09/01/2020 21:03, John W. Kitz wrote: > Nivard, > > Groups for most Dutch provinces can be found on https://groups.yahoo.com/. > Although it is my understanding that Yahoo have reduced the functionality of > their free groups to some degree. But the email list functionality, which is > the most important one for typical use, has remained as far as I know. > > Regards, Jk.

Nivard, Groups for most Dutch provinces can be found on https://groups.yahoo.com/. Although it is my understanding that Yahoo have reduced the functionality of their free groups to some degree. But the email list functionality, which is the most important one for typical use, has remained as far as I know. Regards, Jk. -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington [mailto:ovington.one@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 09 January, 2020 21:32 To: London Mailing List Subject: [LONDON] Demise of rootsweb lists I presume all are aware of the imminent demise of the Rootsweb lists on 2nd March 2020 With that in mind, I wondered if any steps were being taken by the list owner, to move the list to a new platform? I have started a few of my lists on io groups and am so far pleasantly surprised how well they run, the facilities and settings appear to me to be far better, easier and actually work, unlike Mailman the present Rootsweb lists platform -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) _______________________________________________ To Post to this list: london@rootsweb.com Contact the Listowner: Dee Pavey london-owner@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/london@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I presume all are aware of the imminent demise of the Rootsweb lists on 2nd March 2020 With that in mind, I wondered if any steps were being taken by the list owner, to move the list to a new platform? I have started a few of my lists on io groups and am so far pleasantly surprised how well they run, the facilities and settings appear to me to be far better, easier and actually work, unlike Mailman the present Rootsweb lists platform -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Many thanks Nirvard. It’s strange there were two Sidney Abraham’s born in the east end 1910. One Sidney J and one Sidney B. Both of them changed their surname! Very curious! Thanks again Berry > On 31 Dec 2019, at 09:08, LONDON-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Send LONDON mailing list submissions to london@rootsweb.com > > To subscribe via email send a message with subject subscribe and body > subscribe to london-request@rootsweb.com > > To unsubscribe via email send a message with subject unsubscribe and > body unsubscribe to london-request@rootsweb.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > london-owner@rootsweb.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of LONDON digest..."Today's Topics: > > 1. Name Changes (sussexoldbird@yahoo.com) > 2. Re: Name Changes (Nivard Ovington) > <mime-attachment> > <mime-attachment>

Hi Berry I believe the NR230 is a code related to name change, not all of which were by deed poll, or registered deed poll But I would check the newspapers and in particular the London Gazette The ADA is a location code for Bethnal Green London, the date will either be the date of that name change (unlikely) but more likely the date at which the name was registered at their doctor The same 1939 NIR was used by the NHS up to 1991/2, hence the many post 1939 annotations, mostly for women re-registering after marriage as they took their husbands surname Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 30/12/2019 20:43, Berry Wraight via LONDON wrote: > I have just noticed that on a record on the 1939 census it showed a name change and wondered if anyone was able to explain what the letters meant. > > NR230 ADA 28/9/46 [Abrahams 'crossed out' Sidney B to become Allan Sidney > https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?dbid=61596&h=7617219&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=2352 > > Not sure it will necessarily help with my research but wont know until I find out what it means:-) > > Many thanks > > Berry