Beth wrote <<this paragraph was in a newspaper of Nov 1851 and the first instancce that I know of with Mr H marrying is in March of 1852 in Marylebone>> Those dates could be quite consistent with one-another. It all depends on your source for the March 1852 marriage: was that the GRO indexes? If so, then "March 1852" doesn't mean March 1852: it means the quarter ending with March 1852, that is Jan, Feb or Mar 1852. Also, that doesn't mean that the marriage took place during that quarter, but that it was registered centrally in that quarter. Various administrative delays in passing paperwork on could mean that a marriage (or birth or death) could take place in one quarter but be registered centrally in the next. So it is possible that the marriage took place in mid November but appears in the March quarter. Of course, if your source wasn't the GRO indexes then that isn't the explanation. HTH Roger Lovegrove Please do visit the LOVEGROVE Information Centre on http://www.lovegrove.f9.co.uk/ons/

>If that was Nov 1851 and he married in Mar 1852 perhaps their >planned marriage was delayed or the >writer misunderstood the timing. Or if the marriage date is from the index (FreeBMD), perhaps the registration fell into the quarter after the actual wedding. Regards, John Moore

On 2011/04/02 11:53, Anne Peat wrote: > During the middle of the 19th century most of the churchyards in London were > close dot new burials because they were overcrowded and insanitary. So it is > likely that your gg grandfather was buried elsewhere in one of the municipal > or private cemeteries that were set up mid century. See > http://homepage.ntlworld.com/hitch/gendocs/cem.html Following on from what Ann said, a lot of my East End relatives were buried in Abney Park, until latter times, when they started being cremated and finished up in the City of London, Manor Park. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg

Thirza Palmer was born in Langley Burrell, Chippenham, Wiltshire in 1816, and died at 43 Percival Street in 1843, in the Sub District of St James, Clerkenwell. Her brother came to London in the early 1840s and lived on Drury Lane. Another sister, Harriet, lived at 34 Hall Street (Goswell Road). I now have the death certificate for Thirza who died of scrofula. I was hoping that a member of the family might have been present at the death, and would therefore be mentioned on the DC. However the person present was Thomas Knight. I sent for the certificate on the grounds that: - *Thirza is a fairly unusual first name* - *The age is right (27)* - *The address is not too far away from her brother at Drury Lane and her sister at Hall Street.* Does anyone have any ideas how I might tie this down to be certain the she is the family member I seek? Is it likely that she would be in one of the London Directories? I wonder whether she might have been a dressmaker like her sister? Any help would be appreciated. David Roberts

Hi Robert. During the middle of the 19th century most of the churchyards in London were close dot new burials because they were overcrowded and insanitary. So it is likely that your gg grandfather was buried elsewhere in one of the municipal or private cemeteries that were set up mid century. See http://homepage.ntlworld.com/hitch/gendocs/cem.html HTH Anne On 2 Apr 2011, at 10:34, Robert Webb wrote: > Hi > My great great grandmother, Teresa Lack Webb, was buried at Christ Church Spitalfields on 6th August 1848 and her abode was Church Street, Spitalfields. Her husband, William Webb, died 4th March 1871 at 66 New Street, Mile end Old Town and would like know the likelihood as whether he also would have been buried at Christ Church or if not possibly at Tower Hamlets. > Robert in N Wales

Hi My great great grandmother, Teresa Lack Webb, was buried at Christ Church Spitalfields on 6th August 1848 and her abode was Church Street, Spitalfields. Her husband, William Webb, died 4th March 1871 at 66 New Street, Mile end Old Town and would like know the likelihood as whether he also would have been buried at Christ Church or if not possibly at Tower Hamlets. Robert in N Wales

Warm Greetings from Santa Fe, New Mexico U.S.A. Looking for descendants of Dora JACOBY and her son. They were born in Havelberg, Germany and immigrated to London in 1938. This 82 year old grandfather is still tilling the family genealogy garden, Frederick (Falkenberg)

I go along with Val ........... Shadwell road Islington was renamed see here; "The Parish of Saint Mary Islington had constructed a workhouse on Liverpool Road in 1776, after the passing of a Local Act. This meant that it did not come under the juridsiction of the 1834 Poor Law Amendment Act. The Board of Guardians was not constituted for the parish of St Mary Islington until 1867. A new workhouse was subsequently constructed on Saint John's Road in Upper Holloway. An infirmary was also built on Highgate Hill, on the site of the Highgate Smallpox Hospital which had been moved. An infant's school was constructed on Hornsey Road in 1853. In 1895 Islington also purchased a disused workhouse on Shadwell Road (later Cornwallis Road) to use as an overflow institution. Source of information: Peter Higginbotham at The Workhouse website." ssage

Hi Jeremy: St Mary's Church, Hornsey Rise (Parish of Islington) is still there http://www.stmarysn19teamparish.org/ This map shows "Holly Park" http://www.achurchnearyou.com/st-marys-hornsey-rise/ just north-east of the church Sorry can't help with the other address but "Shadwell" is East London and I thought the couple had to be of the same parish? Val -----Original Message----- From: london-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:london-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Gallop Sent: Friday, 1 April 2011 12:02 PM To: london@rootsweb.com Subject: [LON] Help with transcription please. I have the following marriage certificate. http://www.sepree.com/odds/JohnMarriage.jpg I need help with the 1st line. It is supposed to be St Mary's Islington. Is that correct? I seem to be able to read "House Rise" in there too and I assume that scribble is "Parish of Islington" And then there is their addresses. 11 Shadwell Road? The Hollies Holly Park Can someone please confirm this or correct me. Any idea where these addresses were? Ive looked on Stanfords map of London for 1878 but not seen anything promising. Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks. Jeremy ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This mailing list works in parallel with the London surname interest list on the web at http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/london.html . Check for matching interests and add your own ! Any problems, please contact the List Admin: LONDON-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LONDON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks to ALL who replied to my query! Amazing what you can find if you just know how! (and take a bit of time to think about it) I was up till 4am last night searching for those all elusive ancestors! :) Thanks again Jeremy

Hi Michelle There are some trees that are private - you have get in touch via ancestry with the 'lister' who then may or may not get back in touch with you. I don't know if there is a difference in having a PAYG account though. HTH Andy Support Shelterbox for disasters - http://www.shelterbox.org/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "michelle ramirez" <mlrwebb10@gmail.com> To: <london@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 3:26 AM Subject: [LON] access to family trees on ancestry > Hi List > > Was looking at Ancestry and have found a few family trees on there that > are > mine. Do I need to join and have an annual membership? I signed up for the > pay as you go and couldn't access them. > > Thanks > Michelle > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > This mailing list works in parallel with the London surname interest list > on the web at http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/london.html . Check for > matching interests and add your own ! > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: LONDON-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LONDON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi John Thanks for your  kind offer. The name I'm looking for is STEERS. Both Thomas and William were coco mat makers but I would be interested in any STEERS mentioned in that trade. Regards Carole

Shadwell Road (now Cornwallis Road) is shown at the foot of this map-square (1862). http://www.mappalondon.com/london/north-west/hornsey.jpg

11 Shadwell Road is correct. It's not in east London but in Hornsey/Islington, and is now called Cornwallis Road (London N19). HTH Judy London, UK -----Original Message----- From: london-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:london-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Valerie Horler Sorry can't help with the other address but "Shadwell" is East London and I thought the couple had to be of the same parish? -----Original Message----- From: london-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:london-bounces@rootsweb.com] On I have the following marriage certificate. http://www.sepree.com/odds/JohnMarriage.jpg And then there is their addresses. 11 Shadwell Road?

It is a painting technique "Dobie describes herself as a "transparent" painter who builds color effects through layers (or "glazes") of diluted paint." see more at http://www.handprint.com/HP/WCL/palette4u.html also http://www.crowsnestpasspromoter.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?archive=true&e=1935667 Ron Lankshear -Sydney NSW (from London-Shepherds Bush/Chiswick) try my links http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lankshear/ On 2011-04-01 2:25 AM, NanDowling@aol.com wrote: > I've just found a baptism record dated 1814 which lists the father 's > occupation as "Transparent Painter " - has anyone any idea what exactly > this would be ? > Usually this man has been recorded on other baptism& Mcert records as > "Artist" but of course that covers quite a number of areas - but this > latest definition is a mystery . > I', wondering if perhaps it is something to do with painting on glass or > mirror ?

I have the following marriage certificate. http://www.sepree.com/odds/JohnMarriage.jpg I need help with the 1st line. It is supposed to be St Mary's Islington. Is that correct? I seem to be able to read "House Rise" in there too and I assume that scribble is "Parish of Islington" And then there is their addresses. 11 Shadwell Road? The Hollies Holly Park Can someone please confirm this or correct me. Any idea where these addresses were? Ive looked on Stanfords map of London for 1878 but not seen anything promising. Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks. Jeremy

Hello List, Searching for info on Charles North Hunt attorney at law (son of Charles HUNT- attorney and Henrietta NORTH) and his wife Mary HUGHES who was a widow Mary PLACE when she married Charles North HUNT in 1787 at St Leonards, Shoreditch. Mary Hughes was born about 1763 searching for her birth for over ten years. Mary Hughes at some stage married a PLACE - no record can be found of such a marriage. Charles North Hunt died 1827 in Portland Place. No divorce for his wife Mary PLACE - nee HUGHES can be found. She thirdly married George WILLIAMS, printer and came to Australia in 1814 on the Broxbornebury. George WILLIAMS, printer was born about 1760 and died in Maitland NSW Australia 1838. These are brick walls we have been chasing for over ten years. Regards Annie Australia

Hi List Was looking at Ancestry and have found a few family trees on there that are mine. Do I need to join and have an annual membership? I signed up for the pay as you go and couldn't access them. Thanks Michelle

Thank You all for your useful links. will keep me busy for a while. On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 9:19 AM, michelle ramirez <mlrwebb10@gmail.com>wrote: > Hi List > > It's time to blow of the dust and return to my genealogy again. I have not > looked at any of it in about 9 yrs and have decided to start searching > again. > > But I have no idea what websites are still good and what are not. I just > started browsing the 1911. > > Can someone let me know what websites to search. I remember familysearch > and freebmd. It's been along time > > Michelle > > Researching REDDING/WEBB/WRIGHT/JAMES in London area and TRUDE in Devon >

Could it be Hornsey Rise? http://www.achurchnearyou.com/st-marys-hornsey-rise/ On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 7:02 PM, Jeremy Gallop <familyhistory@sepree.com> wrote: > I have the following marriage certificate. > > > > http://www.sepree.com/odds/JohnMarriage.jpg > > > > I need help with the 1st line. It is supposed to be St Mary's Islington. Is > that correct? I seem to be able to read "House Rise" in there too and I > assume that scribble is "Parish of Islington" > > > > And then there is their addresses. > > > > 11 Shadwell Road? > > The Hollies Holly Park > > > > Can someone please confirm this or correct me. Any idea where these > addresses were? Ive looked on Stanfords map of London for 1878 but not seen > anything promising. > > > > Any help greatly appreciated. > > > > Thanks. > > Jeremy > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > This mailing list works in parallel with the London surname interest list on the web at http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/london.html .  Check for matching interests and add your own ! > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: LONDON-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LONDON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >